Conspiracy theory thread

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cdtm
A thread for posting any theories you have, no matter how wild.



I suspect Facebook was a spook operation from the start. Yes, it's a well known fact they are used now, because with their popularity and reach for it would be stupid to deny it, but just look at the founders. You're got people with CIA ties, and one guy who was probably a mobster..

And Zuckerberg just happens to have sole control of the biggest spy network on the planet. The Feds only have to go through one Guy, instead of dealing with a group, which is convienent.

socool8520
I don't think it was initially, but organizations like the CIA would be crazy not to use it for spy purposes with how much data you can get from it.

Adam Grimes
I went to the past and killed Kennedy. It wasn't Ozzy.

SquallX
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
I went to the past and killed Kennedy. It wasn't Ozzy.

Psst! You should have gotten rich instead!

socool8520
Yeah.....even Biff got it right Grimes.

Emperordmb
We live in a white supremacist capitalist heteropatriarcy built on dominance and interlocking systems of oppression.

Not my theory of course, but a pretty pervasive conspiracy theory.

Kurk
Flight 93 was shot down by our government. (I only mind them lying about it)

dadudemon
Originally posted by socool8520
I don't think it was initially, but organizations like the CIA would be crazy not to use it for spy purposes with how much data you can get from it.

This is correct. thumb up


https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/interest-privacy-will-ensure-youre-targeted-nsa/


If you don't use Facebook, you could be no a monitor list as they had no way to keep tabs on people with their Big Data AI tools.

Surtur
Originally posted by cdtm
A thread for posting any theories you have, no matter how wild.



I suspect Facebook was a spook operation from the start. Yes, it's a well known fact they are used now, because with their popularity and reach for it would be stupid to deny it, but just look at the founders. You're got people with CIA ties, and one guy who was probably a mobster..

And Zuckerberg just happens to have sole control of the biggest spy network on the planet. The Feds only have to go through one Guy, instead of dealing with a group, which is convienent.

I'm gonna post some wild conspiracy only the looniest of loons would believe:

Trump colluded with Russia. That shit is sad as hell. But funny.

Surtur
Originally posted by Emperordmb
We live in a white supremacist capitalist heteropatriarcy built on dominance and interlocking systems of oppression.

Not my theory of course, but a pretty pervasive conspiracy theory.

Oh and the US is a rape culture, don't forget that. And the wage gap, lol, that shit is pure fairy tale.

Surtur
Speaking of conspiracies, you know in the 70s there was an investigation that concluded "yeah, there probably was some conspiracy with JFK" ? It was the "United States House Select Committee on Assassinations".

dadudemon
Originally posted by SquallX
Psst! You should have gotten rich instead!

Plot Twist: time travel only works if you travel back in time to assassinate powerful people.

cdtm
Michael Hastings was probably murdered.

cdtm
Originally posted by dadudemon
Plot Twist: time travel only works if you travel back in time to assassinate powerful people.

So how did we get around the paradox of never going back in time to kill the guy you killed, because you deprived yourself of a reason for going in the first place?

SquallX
I eat and shit time paradoxes for breakfast, lunch and dinner!🧐

ESB -1138
Originally posted by cdtm
A thread for posting any theories you have, no matter how wild.



I suspect Facebook was a spook operation from the start. Yes, it's a well known fact they are used now, because with their popularity and reach for it would be stupid to deny it, but just look at the founders. You're got people with CIA ties, and one guy who was probably a mobster..

And Zuckerberg just happens to have sole control of the biggest spy network on the planet. The Feds only have to go through one Guy, instead of dealing with a group, which is convienent.

I think the government just cracked down on Zuckerberg and his spying because the government doesn't want competition. Only they have the "right" to spy on you!

Flyattractor
Originally posted by ESB -1138
I think the government just cracked down on Zuckerberg and his spying because the government doesn't want competition. Only they have the "right" to spy on you!

Technically that is "Kind of Right". Cause the "Government" can get Legal Authority to SPY On People. (said with a grain of salt).

dadudemon
Originally posted by cdtm
So how did we get around the paradox of never going back in time to kill the guy you killed, because you deprived yourself of a reason for going in the first place?

If assuming a single timeline, then the timeline changes for everyone except for the time traveling murderer.

If multiple timelines, then it is a different universe.

SquallX

NewGuy01
Didn't someone just make a thread for that?

cdtm
#Metoo: This is being pushed by powerful men against other powerful men.


Oh, I totally believe the allegations are real. Every single one. But why is this a thing now, and not ten years ago. Or 20 years ago. People were making claims forever, and guess what, the stories got squashed.

And now they're not. IMO, this is in part because of a changing of the guard, with the new power brokers using #Metoo as their weapon of choice.

It's part purge, part punishment against adversaries..

BackFire
My favorite current conspiracy theory is that Trump doesn't actually know what a dog is.

https://www.indy100.com/article/there-is-a-growing-body-of-evidence-that-donald-trump-doesnt-actually-know-what-a-dog-is--WJz0vx3wy4Z

cdtm
Our political system is odd.

The Republicans are mostly said to be older white guys. Possibly racist.

The Democrats are mostly everyone else. Even more conservative groups, like certain Asian cultures, who disagree with things like wealth redistribution, abortion, same sex marriage, or any number of platform points still vote Democrat on account of the fact they feel a Republicans is a white boys club.


No matter how bad the Democratic Party is, they can count on support from every who isn't old and white.


And that, to me, is very strange. A choice that amounts to "Us or hitler" isn't really a choice.


The rabbit hole, of course, is whether this happened organically, or by design. Because if someone planned this divide out, it's a genius idea that works.

cdtm
Originally posted by cdtm
#Metoo: This is being pushed by powerful men against other powerful men.


Oh, I totally believe the allegations are real. Every single one. But why is this a thing now, and not ten years ago. Or 20 years ago. People were making claims forever, and guess what, the stories got squashed.

And now they're not. IMO, this is in part because of a changing of the guard, with the new power brokers using #Metoo as their weapon of choice.

It's part purge, part punishment against adversaries..

http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/09/media/weinstein-brothers/index.html






Makes sense.


This is about justice for victims. Suuuure it is.

And rebelions in third world nations are fought by heroes, and never butchers being funded by black money from a superpower trying to protect their interests.

MythLord
the moon landing was faked because there is no moon!

Surtur
Originally posted by MythLord
the moon landing was faked because there is no moon!

I enjoy the excuses people used to try to say it's fake. "The flag is moving, but it's space! It's not real!".

Emperordmb
The Earth isn't a sphere, it's shaped like a donut, we've all been lied to.

MythLord
Oxygen is toxic and is slowly killing us with each breath we take!
WE'VE JUST BEEN CONDITIONED TO THINK WE NEED IT TO SURVIVE SO THE PLACEBO EFFECT KICKS IN!

Surtur
I also like people saying FDR let Pearl Harbor happen. It's nonsense.

MythLord
Surt, have you ever considered...
https://i.imgflip.com/jfg79.jpg

Surtur
This article fits here maybe:

A Scandal Trifecta: Immigration, Welfare Fraud and Terrorism

TheVaultDweller
We really are in the Matrix. eek!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulation_hypothesis

Surtur
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
We really are in the Matrix. eek!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulation_hypothesis

It gets creepy if you look up "glitch in the matrix" stories on youtube.

Stories like "The moon changed sized right before my eyes" lol.

cdtm
A white student reported a black student to the police, for sleeping in the Yale commons. Sounds outrageous.


The Times has some footage of a meeting between them:


http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-news-yale-police-black-student-sleeping-20180509-story.html



.......kind of a quiet, almost civil meeting for a deranged lunatic threatening to call the police because "racism".


I'm calling shenanigans. These kids are in cahoots, trying to start a dialog on racism.

cdtm
I believe Fox News is "controlled opposition".

People like Glenn Beck don't even seem real.. I've seen professional wrestling actors with more believable depth then these people.

I'll go one further and say the left side isn't much better.. It's all theater.


Basically, I think this:



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And Aaron McGruder probably rubbed a lot of elbows in the media, and probably heard some things, so maybe he was giving us a little peek behind the curtain, and dressing it up as satire.

Wonder Man
Abe Lincoln is awarded the genius strategy. Robert Todd Lincoln, William Wallace Lincoln, Tad Lincoln, Edward Baker Lincoln
Also his children deserve all the credit facebook can give He and them as well as to themselves at facebook.

cdtm
http://www.rense.com/general21/hw.htm

Essentially, this goes into the "CIA is behind everything" theories.

From witch hunts against commies, to feminism, to flooding black ghettos with cocaine, to the hippie drug culture.


The thing is, if you look at what the left is now, they HAVE been neutered as a force for economic change. The focus on social politics, race, culture, privilege, etc etc etc.. Missing from the focus is any sort of real movement against the rich in general. Or against class.

Which would be the point, wouldn't it? If you're a rich guy on the right or the left, the last thing you want is your inferiors organizing against you.


What's happened with Occupy Wall Street, by the way? That sure didn't last long, did it.

dadudemon
Originally posted by cdtm
What's happened with Occupy Wall Street, by the way? That sure didn't last long, did it.

It lasted a long ass time, actually. And the site is still up and updated:

http://occupywallst.org/


Occupiers were there for months.

Surtur
Anyone ever see that Wormwood netflix series. More or less it seems we might..kinda sorta have murdered a scientist who was under the impression his research led to the use of biological weapons during the Korean War. And we drugged him against his will with LSD. In the name of science. Not joking, the government at the very least admits that.

But yeah so they actually captured marines who admitted to doing it.(They being the enemy at the time) Then when they got back to America the government said "nope, they didn't do it, they were tortured into admitting lies".

Yeah, seeing as we've straight up installed dictators in other countries...it's not hard to believe the marines weren't lying when they said they used biological weapons.

cdtm
Seabiscuit was a CIA psyops program. Or at least a betting scam.

A smaller then average horse just happening to win races, and inspire people during the Great Depression?

That has mob scam written all over it, if not psyop.

cdtm
The Marvel SJW pandering is just a cover:


http://fortune.com/2017/01/11/donald-trump-marvel-ceo-ike-perlmutter/


http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/marvel/252455/marvel-ceo-gave-money-to-donald-trump-because-of-course-he-did



I bet all the SJW and representation stunts are just a pr stunt to mitigate fallout from political activism on team red.

Seems about how a corporate raider would think. "Well, yes, people who need that drug we placed out of their price range, and that insurance refuses to cover, will surely die.

But we also do a lot of charity work! Let's talk about our toys for tots program."

cdtm
Reviews are a marketing tool.

There's just too many reasons to be suspicious of them. Amazon culling thousands of book reviews, on the basis they were from cloned accounts, or from pr firms. The whole to do about a games writer being fired for giving a critical review of Kane and Lynch, on a site heavily filled with Kane and Lynch advertising banners. And my personal experiences reading a few negative reviews of Steam Indy games, and a dev having the audacity to threaten "Someday, you're gonna make enough money to make you worth suing for this shit!"

Middling reviews likely are the most "objective" ones out there.

BackFire
The review one isn't a conspiracy. It's absolutely true. A lot of companies inflate their scores with fake reviews and ratings on Amazon using various methods.

cdtm
Nintendo are price fixers.

No, their products aren't unusually expensive compared to the competition because "Super Mario Quality". They've been caught for price fixing schemes twice, once in the 1980's/90's, and once in early 2000's. Odds are, they never stopped the practice.

Surtur
What bugs me about this SJW stuff in comics(and not just comics, video games too) is these companies cave to people who do not buy these things. It's why the SJW comic titles didn't do well. It wasn't hardcore comic fines whining and demanding them, it was SJW's. And when you cave to them it DOES NOT make them buy your shit lol. They celebrate it as a victory and move on.

They cannot ever be pleased so caving to them is pointless.

Surtur
My favorite new conspiracy is from the side that constantly mocks conservatives for their conspiracy theories. Now there are theories that Melania is missing lol. She recently tweeted and people are trying to say it was Trump who truly wrote the tweet, etc.

I also love how some are acting like they care about her well being and just wanna know she is safe.

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by Surtur
What bugs me about this SJW stuff in comics(and not just comics, video games too) is these companies cave to people who do not buy these things. It's why the SJW comic titles didn't do well. It wasn't hardcore comic fines whining and demanding them, it was SJW's. And when you cave to them it DOES NOT make them buy your shit lol. They celebrate it as a victory and move on.
Pretty much this. Listening to those morons is simply bad business.

BackFire
Originally posted by Surtur
My favorite new conspiracy is from the side that constantly mocks conservatives for their conspiracy theories. Now there are theories that Melania is missing lol. She recently tweeted and people are trying to say it was Trump who truly wrote the tweet, etc.

I also love how some are acting like they care about her well being and just wanna know she is safe.

Melania tried to leave Donald, and to save face he had her kidnapped and she is being held in a basement somewhere until they can effectively brainwash her back into pretending she loves him. You heard it here first.

Robtard
She probably had another facelift, tuck-n-pull job with a couple rounds of Botox and is in hiding until it's all fully healed.

Flyattractor
Hmmm!?

ZOtinTlx7yo

cdtm
Originally posted by Surtur
What bugs me about this SJW stuff in comics(and not just comics, video games too) is these companies cave to people who do not buy these things. It's why the SJW comic titles didn't do well. It wasn't hardcore comic fines whining and demanding them, it was SJW's. And when you cave to them it DOES NOT make them buy your shit lol. They celebrate it as a victory and move on.

They cannot ever be pleased so caving to them is pointless.

What would an sjw boycott even look like?

Taking to twitter telling fellow sjw's not to buy comics they aren't buying?

Surtur
Originally posted by cdtm
What would an sjw boycott even look like?

Taking to twitter telling fellow sjw's not to buy comics they aren't buying?

They get a bunch of other SJW's who don't read the comics to complain. Then move on to the next thing once they succeed.

Lol and Marvel said they wouldn't cancel the titles. Then began quietly canceling the titles.

Imagine being a Marvel stock holder lol. Actually, some of those people DID get into a shouting match over their gender swapping bullshit.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Robtard
She probably had another facelift, tuck-n-pull job with a couple rounds of Botox and is in hiding until it's all fully healed.

This seems the most likely.

cdtm
People are easily manipulated.

The funny thing is, the "counter culture" groups are just as manipulated as the mainstream. Did you know the 60's revolution started because some guy wrote a book telling kids how their parents were screwing them over? If not for that book, and the capitalizing on it by various lecturers and such, there may have been no hippie movement.


The "conspiracy" part, is I think this is our nature. Masses are made to be exploited. Large groups = herd behavior, to be manipulated by whoever can fill the power vaccume.

And it's telling that in cases of an unfilled vaccume, you get an angry herd. You can see this in third world nations who lack a central authority, or any kind of authority.

So, bottom line, we can't really group think on any rational level. All the thinking, for good or ill, happens from a few people, with the rest blindly following along.

Human resources, indeed.



Oh, and the other part of the conspiracy theory: Western culture is, by and large, being exploited by psychopaths. I'm talking murderous thugs here.. The type who would fit into organized crime.

cdtm
I think retail places have a lot of "fake shoppers".

Not mystery shoppers, just people there to make it seem more crowded then it really is.

I also think there's some version that buys things to cook the books, or make their sales look better then they are. Or maybe a money laundering thing.

This one night, at a 24/7 shop, around 2 in the morning I ran in to get a few items. A lady was the only one in line, with so much stuff piled high it looked like a dumpster. The thing was creaking. At least a thousand dollars worth, I kid you not.

The porky, unkept woman didn't look rich, either, so it's not likely a "rich eccentric shoreline" thing.

Patient_Leech
Isn't there already an entire forum for this very subject?

cdtm
What forum is that, that no one probably visits?

cdtm
I think white privilege and race rhetoric is a distraction.

Are there racist people? Yes.

Is there a history of racist policy?. Absolutely.

Is Jim Bob the Neo Nazi responsible for the condition of black ghetto's?


No.

The public servants who allow blight are. The land owners, apartment renters, business owners, and government institutions who neglect or exploit the area are. The people who shoot racist films and tv are. And the same people who constantly promote racial divides in the media are. None are Jim Bob the Neo Nazi.

White supremecists do exist, and they are used to channel anger away from the people who are actively screwing over poor minoritiee.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Isn't there already an entire forum for this very subject?

Originally posted by cdtm
What forum is that, that no one probably visits?

Probably just some Thread that a Mod Just Created and pasted it up in one of the No One Ever Goes There Forums.

That seems to happen now.

Surtur

MythLord
The Christian Baker... is gay! And, in order to hide the fact that his wife has a big balogne underneath that dress, he refuses to address other gays!

He's also a friggin Neo-Nazi because he waves, apparently.

Surtur
Originally posted by MythLord
The Christian Baker... is gay! And, in order to hide the fact that his wife has a big balogne underneath that dress, he refuses to address other gays!

He's also a friggin Neo-Nazi because he waves, apparently.

One day he baked 8 cakes. Another day he also baked 8.

88.

!!!!!!

Nazi!!!!!!!

Surtur
Mythlord
Star-Lord

Both have 8 letters. 88. Why didn't you tell me you were also a nazi?

cdtm
It wasn't a weather balloon.

The "reverand" that was was called in for spiritual support, is probably a government operative.

If you think about it, a lot of religious leaders probably have "company" ties. What better way to gather intel, where they tell you all their "sins"?

MythLord
Originally posted by Surtur
Why didn't you tell me you were also a nazi?
Why would I? You wanna join forces against the gays?

cdtm
Starting to think the Evergreen "takeover" might be gang related.

A shot in the dark, but it would explain a lot of things, like why the president told campus safety to stand down, yet asked for state police support. Or why he seemed fearful of his life enough to sit back down, when he tried to go to the bathroom.

And of course, looking at Starbucks, you can't say "The crips have taken over" at a heavily black school. Not without proof, and even then..

Wonder Man
Actually I'm the one who gets what he wants in life.
As far as conspiracy goes the only thing hidden is who is killing who.

cdtm
That, and there's proof the goverment experiments on the general public.

That isn't a conspiracy, since it's proven. What is, is what we haven't been told, or what they're doing now.



Also, I'm pretty sure I was fed lsd in one of the proven experiments. It was for a disability (A common one. Think add stuff) to calm me as they gave me scans, and it ended up making me hallucinate like you wouldn't believe.

Funny thing is, I can clearly remember every single hallucination, and my state of mind at the time, and the reactions of people around me.

cdtm
I think content producers make "flawed releases" on purpose.

Say if we're talking about emulated Genesis games. Sonic Mega Collection for the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube is known for "emulation errors", like sound being a little bit off, or some lag at certain spots.

The next iteration "fixes" these bugs. Then it adds a few more. Which get "fixed" on the next one, and so on and so forth.

And those "perfect" packages that only have four games on them, and cost 15-30 dollars? They're in on that, too.

So spend big on small amounts of flawless emulation, or keep spending smaller amounts for old rope and minor fixes each pass.

Nowhere is there a version of these things that is both affordable AND perfect, which you'd think would be a good way to undercut the competition with a "We do it good AND cheap", but no one's doing that. Must be a reason, outside of profit margins (Like conspiring to lock in a market, as happens all the time..)

Jmanghan
Originally posted by cdtm
A thread for posting any theories you have, no matter how wild.



I suspect Facebook was a spook operation from the start. Yes, it's a well known fact they are used now, because with their popularity and reach for it would be stupid to deny it, but just look at the founders. You're got people with CIA ties, and one guy who was probably a mobster..

And Zuckerberg just happens to have sole control of the biggest spy network on the planet. The Feds only have to go through one Guy, instead of dealing with a group, which is convienent. There's an ENTIRE... FORUM FOR THIS.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f70/

cdtm
Those stupidly high prices for obviously bad art (A completely black background and a small line down the side is fine art? How stupid do they think we are?) is probably due to some kind of scam. Maybe there or four rich guys in on it, bidding it up to get a rich sucker on board and make a 100m+ bid.

Surtur
Russian collusion still tops out as one of the more wacky conspiracy theories smile

cdtm
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot#1933

This is interesting. In the 1930's, a twice decorated General claimed he was approached by a cabal of industrialists to lead a military coup against Franklin Roosevelt, because his progressive policies were scaring them.

This man had an impeccable record, and should have been credible on the basis of his history of service alone, even if he didn't have actual proof (Which he did). And yet, everyone treated it like a hoax. The New York Times was among the first to ridicule him over it.

Funny how the entire media united against an anti capitalist who voted for FDR. So much for the "liberal media", because this guy sounds like a liberal.

cdtm
Class Action lawsuits are a scam.

You get 88 dollars, while the legal teams take a five billion dollar cut. I don't doubt the judges get a nice kickback, too. How else to explain why so many judges enable these ridiculous multi-billion dollar payout schemes?

Wonder Man
I feel the Virgin Birth proves there is no conspiracy
Just my opinion

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by Wonder Man
I feel the Virgin Birth proves there is no conspiracy
Just my opinion
I agree. No woman would lie about such a thing.

ArtificialGlory

Emperordmb
Capitalism is a liberal value though lol

cdtm
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Capitalism is a liberal value though lol

What does that say about the Times true values? Hmmmmm..



Another very, VERY interesting thing, is Butler claiming he was a glorfied thug for big business.

If it was true then, what about now?

cdtm
Here's Butlers quotes:

cdtm
And now CBS CEO allegations, as CBS stock plummets.


I don't understand any of this. I mean, I "get" that companies are scrambling to cover their asses, and it's not the law costing jobs so much as the fear that they "might" be founded, and how it would look if they didn't take immediate action, but... Whatever happened to "slander/libel"? It used to be, if you claimed someone wiped their ass in the stall without proof, they'd sue you for defamation. So why aren't the accused fighting back with lawsuits, as they have for decades?

Unless the proof exists in every single case, and these people are being blackmailed? I suppose it's possible, but that's a conspiracy in and of itself.. Who would have access to proof of every single celebrity and high powered persons sexual misconducts?

cdtm
https://www.nycbar.org/get-legal-help/article/personal-injury-and-accidents/false-accusations/


Well, that could be one explanation. Can't sue for defamation, if you defame yourself first.

Lord knows many of these people have compromised characters.

cdtm
Cryptocurrency was created to facilitate money laundering.

Almost all the high end investing/trading is done by organized crime
and governments.

Surtur
I've seen some on the left pushing a theory that Michael Cohen's lawyer is now walking back his claims that Cohen was going to testify that Trump knew about the Trump Tower meeting because Trump had people threaten him lol.

BackFire
Jared threatened to send him nudes if he didn't walk it back.

cdtm
From the uploader and maker of the plastic gun, and untraceable "ghost guns"...






Criticizing legislators for not closing off loopholes he's exploiting. Isn't that interesting.

Is he a second amendment and guns rights enthusiast? Or is he pulling a stunt to give congress a clue, and get tighter gun regulations?

cdtm
I suspect many, many businesses are either fronts for laundering and other activities.


This is based on learning how, once upon a time, a guy from New York, in a suit, with a ton of money bought just about every small business in town. The old timers talk about it all the time, how they really didn't want to sell yet, asked for some ridiculous amount, dragged their feet any way they can, and they were just offered too much to not take it. Of course, they all assume he was a "wise guy" representative.

Could also have been a Wall Street or big business success story with deep pockets buying the small timers out, I guess. Just because a guys rich doesn't mean they're a gangster..

cdtm
Michael Hastings was murdered.

He was just about the release a major expose, outing a heavy hitter in the "company", and his car picks that point to malfunction?

It was hacked. People have murdered for less, and this would have ruined careers, exposed a lot of corruption.

Flyattractor
I am sure the Clintons had NOTHING to do with it.

cdtm
All those awesome popup/ad blockers?

Bet they're all selling data. Every single one.

Flyattractor
Do you wear the same level of Aluminum Foil Hat as Alex Jones CD?

jinXed by JaNx
Originally posted by dadudemon
Plot Twist: time travel only works if you travel back in time to assassinate powerful people.

Or to inspire Chuck Berry 😉

cdtm
Originally posted by Flyattractor
Do you wear the same level of Aluminum Foil Hat as Alex Jones CD?

What brand do you recommend?

Stuff itch's.

cdtm
The "national conversation" is a fraud. Collision between big media, government, education, ect ect.

This includes key "operatives" on both "sides". "Rabble rousers", or "actors".

The general public is duped into believing the only talking points are the ones they hear about every day. No one ever asks what ISN'T being discussed. (Ever hear about pro life liberals? They do exist. No one ever talks about them.

Pro choice conservatives also exist. You never hear about them.)

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