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Who wins. The shield or the knives.

cap.

Originally posted by Wonder Man
Who wins. The shield or the knives.
Wow, been a while since I've seen you posting.

Cap should win.

Already happened.

Remember AvX?

1. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7N7MM0dVsRs/T7PiQEcOfDI/AAAAAAAAANY/O37VCyHxVM0/s1600/avx12.jpg

2. https://www.bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads//2012/05/IMG_00384.jpg

Warpath has a massively upgraded healing factor and his flight returned thanks to Pak. Warpath was already able to compete physically, but lacked the skill. The upgraded healing will help deal with the skill disparity.

This isn't really the same fight as it may have been in the past, and AvX generally shat on the X-Men anyway. Daredevil was deadlocking Warpath with his billy club....wtf?

https://postimg.cc/image/btsasj4y3/

Ah, true. I forgot about that.

Yes, Proudstar actually has a HF now... OUT OF F*CKING NOWHERE... and it's remarkably good, even.

And yeah, AvX had plenty of wtf fights, Disney basically wanted to hurt FOX, one could say But they're still canon, perhaps outside of the final Vs. issue which had fights like Hope vs. Wanda or Jarvis vs. Todd...

I call it a split. WP can certainly overpower Cap if given an opening.

But do you understand that I friggin love these knives?

https://s14.postimg.cc/e4v8jegpt/vibranium_knives.jpg

Knives were a great addition, yeah.

Too bad they also made him job like Drax...

Warpath holds every single physical advantage minus fighting skills.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Knives were a great addition, yeah.

Too bad they also made him job like Drax...

That sucks.

Drax has become a very likeable character for me though. Especially after the GOTG movies, and his spot in Infinity War.

Bautista is great in movies... but when it comes to comics, I prefer the Dumb Drax incarnation.

Originally posted by Vanguard
But do you understand that I friggin love these knives?

https://s14.postimg.cc/e4v8jegpt/vibranium_knives.jpg
I myself am a knife guy, so i get it.

How strong is WP?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
How strong is WP?

That changes all the time.

At his best, his strength was said to be equal to that of teenage Colossus.

At his worst, he was described as having the strength of a dozen men or something like that (you know since you used to troll with that scan a lot).

Recent X-Force incarnation was fluctuating a lot, too... one time, he was strong enough to stop Demon Bear's jaw from crushing him (Class 100 feat, one could argue), the other time he had some trouble with an actual, NORMAL bear.

Warpath on a spirit quest would be cool.
Yeah vibranium knives make me think to the Asgardian Armory for some odd reason.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW


At his worst, he was described as having the strength of a dozen men or something like that (you know since you used to troll with that scan a lot).

. What scan are you talking about?

Originally posted by carver9
Warpath holds every single physical advantage minus fighting skills. he also lacks in intelligence compared to cap as well as experience...

So, no math problems on the table, then.

Originally posted by riv6672
So, no math problems on the table, then. more like the ability to quickly calculate the trajectory of thrown objects as well as the probability of what attack your opponent will throw with their current physical condition/state of mind. I would've thought that was obvious.

So Warpath right.
The one who held off the Juggernaut in X-force 14 or 15.
Educated by the White Queen as a Hellion.
That's the one that pulls the knife out of your skull and say's I see through your eyes on my spirit days or would say something like that anyhow if writers give him a shot.

Originally posted by riv6672
I myself am a knife guy, so i get it.

Cap beating Warpath is a hate crime.

Warpath tanked blows from Juggs

Cap dies

Cap calculates throwing Warpath 51 yards face first into one of his knives with a northeast wind direction blowing at 11 mph. No bounce

Originally posted by deathslash
lol, cap has put the hulk on his ass. guess I wasn't being entirely clear. Cap's superior intelligence isn't simply limited to just being smarter that James. His ability to calculate trajectory has been life saving on numerous occasions and could very well make all the difference in this fight.

For example, if Warpath throws one of his knives at cap, does he know which direction it will bounce off of the shield? Does he know the probability of it hitting a fast moving target like Cap when he's prepared for it? What if cap throws his shield? Does James know the speed and trajectory that was used in the initial throw? Can he calculate when the shield will be making its return arc? Does he even know about how much wind resistance is acting against the shield? What if he tries to duck to avoid it on its return arc and it hits him on the back or in the legs because he couldn't properly calculate it? Can he do any of that while fighting a foe that has superior h2h skill?

Calculations matter a lot in fights like these.
K.I.S.S.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Cap calculates throwing Warpath 51 yards face first into one of his knives with a northeast wind direction blowing at 11 mph. No bounce god, I missed you.Originally posted by riv6672
K.I.S.S. never

One thing. Warpath was trained by the teleport kid himself Cable. They were reared by the ship known as Professor.
They managed to save parts of the ship.
Warpath may have better timeing abilities than Captain America as a result of Cable.
Also Magic the teleporter teleported his shield effortlessly.
If Captain America is vulnerable to teleportation Nightcrawler as well can probably take him down.

What the balls are you babbling about teleportation for...?

Well if Warpath was trained by a teleporter he could probably stop someone the same way a teleporter could stop someone.
Same thing as how Professor X trains his students to have strong telepathic shields and same way Nightcrawler stopped Hellion.
Not by teleporting of course but by being trained by a teleporter he could probably get around a shield.

jawdrop

Originally posted by Wonder Man
Well if Warpath was trained by a teleporter he could probably stop someone the same way a teleporter could stop someone.
Same thing as how Professor X trains his students to have strong telepathic shields and same way Nightcrawler stopped Hellion.
Not by teleporting of course but by being trained by a teleporter he could probably get around a shield. Agreed

Warpath with a vibranium knife after a struggle.
I doubt Warpath is worried about getting in close as long as he's got a weapon.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Cap calculates throwing Warpath 51 yards face first into one of his knives with a northeast wind direction blowing at 11 mph. No bounce
I know you're joking, but addressing this in general. Warpath can ignore bullets and heals midfight from repeated impaling. The scientists say he might heal faster than Yuriko and compares him to OML/Sabes. He can definitely eat some shield tosses or a deflected knife.
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Warpath was blatantly superior to red pill amped Nuke while Nuke had an anti-healing factor knife. After punching Nuke through a wall, Warpath also held a door closed against Nuke + several red pill amped Nuke clones.

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Once Warpath engaged him again later, Nuke shot Warpath with propulsive ordnance to keep him away. Out of Logan, Sabes, and Deathstrike, Nuke chose to target Warpath.

https://postimg.cc/image/bw58umnwn/
https://postimg.cc/image/ny0morpfb/

Warpath had taken a red pill by this point, but Nuke was unaware. Nuke only knew Warpath was coming fo' dat ass, got scared, and basically needed outside equipment just to survive. Cap better watch himself here, or Warpath will play ping pong with Cap's head.

"Red Pill Amped Nuke"

You read these comics Stylet?

Yes, it was specified they amp your abilities. It's been inconsistent in the past but it seems writer intent was for it to be an amp. It was repeatedly stated it enhances your abilities.

https://postimg.cc/image/f9mo95omv/

Even if we chalk it up to writer misgivings, point about Warpath still remains though.