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Hand-to-hand.

No TK/TP shenanigans? I say WS.

Yeah, no TK/TP (only enough to keep the Techno-Organic virus at bay).

Cable.

Comic or Live action?

Fukk it

Cable

Comic. Still too early for the live action thread and it's the wrong forum, anyway.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Comic. Still too early for the live action thread and it's the wrong forum, anyway.

Yea Cable

Even if we consider that after Fear Itself, Bucky apparently got a boost thanks to the Infinity Formula?

He even fought well against your precious Panther.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW


He even fought well against your precious Panther.

@ precious Panther.

I love power boosts. I guess it depends on how much he was boosted.

Originally posted by Vanguard
@ precious Panther.

I love power boosts. I guess it depends on how much he was boosted.

Well, he's apparently a genuine superhuman now, both strength- and speed-wise.

But it's fine if we just discuss the "classic" Winter Soldier here, as both Cable and him were described as being inferior to a SSS mutate like Cap.

Bucky imo. More experience and willing to go for the kill much faster.

Originally posted by deathslash
More experience

But... how?

Cable is older and has more appearances, lol.

I have to say Cable. Id like to see how they'd do individually against Slade.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
But... how?

Cable is older and has more appearances, lol. technically, Bucky is older. He's also been fighting with/against super powered people since WW II.

Originally posted by deathslash
technically, Bucky is older. He's also been fighting with/against super powered people since WW II.

Yeah, but most of the time he was frozen so he wouldn't age. That doesn't get you any XP points.

Let's not pretend like Cable's entire life wasn't about war.

Cable.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Let's not pretend like Cable's entire life wasn't about war.
And pouches. Lots and lots of pouches.

Experience isnt such a huge gap (no matter who you think has the greater) as to be worth bitching about.
Two fairly evenly matched opponents, one (WS) being more skilled.

And how exactly is Winter Soldier more skilled Cable?

https://imgur.com/a/H33nI79

cap seemed more skilled, (in a different fight, using his powers cable beat him) but cable is def more experienced and at least as smart. more ruthless too.

bucky would be less skilled than cap of course but is pretty ruthless and does have some superhuman stats.

i dunno. it's close. neither sweeps. i think i'd take bucky for a very slight majority. good match up though.

Originally posted by Supermutant
A whole clan of warriors lol. Clan Askani

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Clan_Askani_(Earth-4935)

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/askani/4005-8302/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Askani

Cable ftw after a good fight.

^^^So, not a notable h2h fighter in the bunch.
Thanks for confirming.

Originally posted by riv6672
^^^So, not a notable h2h fighter in the bunch.
Thanks for confirming.

The whole clan is from the future where they fight everyday to stay alive, and developed their own fighting techniques. lol so only "notable" h2h fighters can train others. Well despite not having any notable ones, Cable can hold his own even with his powers backfiring.

https://comicnewbies.com/2015/01/14/cable-vs-captain-america/

Leo are your scans from Cable and Deadpool 25?

Where Cable handed Cap his shield then he got sucker punched...then thrown out the window.

Cable never really wanted to fight Cap there if so.

Lol blaquesmith is a member of the askani clan. Other members of the clan also helped to trained cable. Blaquesmith was more like a guardian than just a trainer. What cuts it for you, doesn't matter to me. You asked the question, it's your problem that the answer isn't what you wish it to be.

This isn't who has the most notable trainer thread. Cap, Bruce, stick type trainees would always win that. Cable and Bucky both have good h2h feats where I would be confident arguing for either. I'll still slightly favor cable, but you are top 3 worst poster on this board. And definitely not worth engaging with anymore.

Originally posted by leonidas
https://imgur.com/a/H33nI79

cap seemed more skilled, (in a different fight, using his powers cable beat him) but cable is def more experienced and at least as smart. more ruthless too.

bucky would be less skilled than cap of course but is pretty ruthless and does have some superhuman stats.

i dunno. it's close. neither sweeps. i think i'd take bucky for a very slight majority. good match up though.

http://i.imgur.com/O0whD2S.jpg

(before Infinity Formula)

I like the Winter Soliders unfailable programing in his fights but I strongly favor the CIA in this fight and think that The Falcon could beat the Winter Solider.

Originally posted by Supermutant
Lol blaquesmith is a member of the askani clan. Other members of the clan also helped to trained cable. Blaquesmith was more like a guardian than just a trainer. What cuts it for you, doesn't matter to me. You asked the question, it's your problem that the answer isn't what you wish it to be.

This isn't who has the most notable trainer thread. Cap, Bruce, stick type trainees would always win that. Cable and Bucky both have good h2h feats where I would be confident arguing for either. I'll still slightly favor cable, but you are top 3 worst poster on this board. And definitely not worth engaging with anymore.



finally something we can actually agree on.

Originally posted by Supermutant
The whole clan is from the future where they fight everyday to stay alive, and developed their own fighting techniques. lol so only "notable" h2h fighters can train others. Well despite not having any notable ones, Cable can hold his own even with his powers backfiring.

https://comicnewbies.com/2015/01/14/cable-vs-captain-america/

Leo are your scans from Cable and Deadpool 25?

Where Cable handed Cap his shield then he got sucker punched...then thrown out the window.

Cable never really wanted to fight Cap there if so. lol, he got put on his ass immediately and had to pull a freaking gun.

Originally posted by deathslash
lol, he got put on his ass immediately and had to pull a freaking gun.

You're ill... there's something wrong with you.

TO was taking control of Cable, iirc. That's why he ended up looking like Colossus in that mini.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You're ill... there's something wrong with you.

TO was taking control of Cable, iirc. That's why he ended up looking like Colossus in that mini. Oh, I realize that. It's just that he made it seem like cable had a chance before he pulled the gun.

Originally posted by Supermutant


https://comicnewbies.com/2015/01/14/cable-vs-captain-america/

Leo are your scans from Cable and Deadpool 25?

Where Cable handed Cap his shield then he got sucker punched...then thrown out the window.

Cable never really wanted to fight Cap there if so.

huh?

https://imgur.com/a/HGEwf7x

cap was the one who said "we really don't have to do this". and no idea how it can be a sucker punch when cable was staring right at him and encouraged the fight.... pretty sure neither really wanted much of a fight in that book.

That encounter was just so Cable could mind-link with Cap to show why he built Providence, and the respect he had for Cap ideals and shield. It really shouldn't be use as indicative of an actually fight anymore than a training session or friendly sparring. But yeah neither were serious or going all out.

https://imgur.com/a/6OT2Rgv

Steve wanted to take Cable down... but Cable's plan was all about using his artificially restored powers to beat Steve in the end, so he likely wasn't trying his best.

That scan does prove that he's very comparable with Bucky, though. As both had no real enhancements other than their mechanic arms and even with their peak human status, they were still inferior to SSS.