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For the last time: The Star Forge(itself) does not amplify your strength in the Force. It's the captive Jedi's lifeforce that reinvigorates you during a battle such as Revan's with Malak. And that heal factor is minor, barely having any effect on this duel's course.

Vitiate's mere presence as a spirit denied the will of the Force across Nathema and possibly more worlds. Which in so many ways makes the vaunted Plagueis scaling for Sheev look pathetic.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Vitiate's mere presence as a spirit denied the will of the Force across Nathema and possibly more worlds. Which in so many ways makes the vaunted Plagueis scaling for Sheev look pathetic.
Good point.

Vitiate prevented recovery of Medriaas with his power all along* while partaking in other matters which included corrupting Dromund Kaas, on-shotting a Dark Council, formulating an organic network of Children and Voices and consuming Ziost respectively. When you look at these developments from a wider angle, you get the impression that Vitiate's showings are firmly above the pay-grade of any Jedi and/or Sith. This is bordering on the level of The Ones or close.

*As in literally prevented a VOID in the Cosmic Force to heal around Medriaas, preventing the recovery of the planet in turn, or a mix of both.

Vitiate's presence denied the very will of the cosmic force over Medriaas for millennium.
It makes it much more believable that SOR Revan was affecting the force to such a degree passively, which caused the force to respond.

Originally posted by Haschwalth
Vitiate's presence denied the very will of the cosmic force over Medriaas for millennium.
It makes it much more believable that SOR Revan was affecting the force to such a degree passively, which caused the force to respond.

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Nathema Reborn
The ecological revitalization of Nathema has been nothing short of miraculous. Vibrant plant life has not only taken root but flourished, dramatically altering the planet's once-desolate landscape.

Force-users no longer experience the unsettling "wrongness" that they once felt whenever setting foot on the planet. The air has become fresher, and the weather more dynamic. That this has all occurred since the death of Valkorion cannot be a coincidence, though experts cannot agree on any precise environmental mechanism that could have brought about such an abrupt change.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
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Vitiate, was passively maintaining the Void of Nathema. Aka he was passively denying, the force's will to create life over Nathema, for millennium. Until his death.

Originally posted by Haschwalth
Vitiate, was passively maintaining the Void of Nathema. Aka he was passively denying, the force's will to create life over Nathema, for millennium. Until his death.

Not since The Force Awakens has there been such a Star Wars-related letdown. Why am I supposed to be impressed by this, especially vis a vis Sidious's feats?

Because it means even Vitiate's spirit whilst trapped in Yavin's temples, could maintain a passive void from across the galaxy. This is his most basic of Force displays, this is as effortless as destroying T3-M4 for him. It's not even really a feat, because he's not actively doing anything.

What he was doing simultaneously was mentally dominating the Dread Masters, suppressing the Force powers of Vaylin, fueling a galaxy-wide ritual, two-shotting Tol-Braga's strike team, waging a stalemate with Sel-Makor, breaking Revan's mind, controlling the entire Imperial Guard and all of his Children, and maintaining a void in the Force over Nathema. Yet he still had massive power left to spare.

It's the wider picture Temp.

Originally posted by AncientPower

It's the wider picture Temp.

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Granted.

Except imbalancing the Force is something Nihilus and Revan are shown to nearly replicate. Though given the new quotes solidify Valkorion's death causing serious mental damage to every Force user in the galaxy, that's millions by the way, this feat isn't anywhere near beyond Valkorion.

Not that literally causing voids in the Force against its will is less impressive than having an effect on its balance.

Citations needed on all of that, please.

The Triumvirate, including Nihilus, caused pervasive psychic misery throughout the Republic strong enough to feed on:



I'll assume you're going to say that 'psychic misery' means fvck all. Well, not really:



For Revan, there's the fact that the mere existence of his dark side personality caused a persistent, growing 'cyst' in the very fabric of the cosmic Force. Causing the Force as a whole to 'roil' and 'convulse'. Without Revan's light half to balance himself out, this caused a major balance issue that only grew in strength as he himself did:





It's also implied that, not only did a fraction of the Emperor's power weilded by the First Son have the capacity to shield the hundreds of extremely powerful Children scattered throughout the Republic from the senses of the Jedi Order.(Stated by Master Kaedan to be like the dark side 'screaming' through the Force when they were uncovered) But the very opening dialogue of the Decieved trailer by Darth Malgus states that the entire Jedi Order was blinded by the power of the dark side.

As far as Valkorion goes, his death sent a shockwave through the Force that threatened to knock even Satele Shan unconscious. The new codex entries only confirm that his death was felt across the galaxy by all Force users:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/BbbJI3_5d3S3lI1zBI_3TTHPlglSr4R5-mZGzUZrD8OmArryq3d_LpStJ8E9BJ5Ee65RhR43eQ=w397-h371-nc

NGL - Outbalance only means when the Dark Side>Light Side. But you're essentially correct - The Old Republic Sith Lords also brought the Dark Side to rule outbalancing the harmonic nature of the Force.