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High Herald max.
Physically stronger not overall more powerful.

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Hulk
Gladiator
Thor (Jane)
Hyperion
Sentry

JBL will crash the servers with his answers.

Originally posted by playa1258
JBL will crash the servers with his answers.

He Is Yet To Arrive

There are no sub-Skyfather characters physically superior to Superman.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Hulk
Gladiator
Thor (Jane)
Hyperion
Sentry
For a guy who calls himself a prof. you cant read worth shit.

Exactly.
Thats why i figured it would be a challenge.

1. Gotham Girl (Claire Clover)
2. Martian Manhunter (J'onn J'onnz) **
3. Validus
4. Wonder Woman (Diana Prince) **
5. Wraith


2 and 4 are likely, but not completely certain with the way Rebirth has been shaping up.

1, 3, and 5 are fairly definite.

Thor
Black Bolt
Etrigan the Demon
Bizarro Superman
Iron Fist

Gotham Girl (Claire Clover) is not a well-known character, so let me show why she heads the list:


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Source: Batman (Rebirth/2016) #5
Circa: 2016-2017

The list is long. Damage is stronger as well.

Originally posted by carver9
The list is long. Damage is stronger as well.
Show us the list.

Originally posted by carver9
The list is long. Damage is stronger as well.
Damage is not stronger

If we go by one statement, we would have to rate Supergirl higher than Superman

Citizen Steel

Starro the Conqueror.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Show us the list.
That would be nice, yes...

Lol. Damage is stronger than superman as is a lot others and their strength is set in stone😱

Originally posted by JBL
Lol. Damage is stronger than superman as is a lot others and their strength is set in stone😱
Is he now?

Add Braniac too. Superman lunches were utterly ineffective against him

Braniac is not a high herald.

Right, which makes it sad

Varox once was, is he still?

Vartox should be.

As were Daxamites. Mon El should be stronger then Superman.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Add Braniac too. Superman lunches were utterly ineffective against him Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Right, which makes it sad
The guy who defeated every superhero on earth is below high herald? Originally posted by cdtm
Vartox should be.

As were Daxamites. Mon El should be stronger then Superman.
Why? Mon El was always weaker than Superboy save once in Omega saga.

Originally posted by cdtm
Vartox should be.

As were Daxamites. Mon El should be stronger then Superman. Vartox had hyperpowers which were greater than Superpowers.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, the current Brainiac defeated pretty much every superhero on earth.

How does that make him less than high herald? Does Superman need to prove his power in pretty much every comic? not only superheroes but even villains lmao

Originally posted by abhilegend
Is he now? Yes he is. Superman is NOT the strongest character in his class. He's barely stronger than Thor if at all. That crossover proved that beyond a shadow of doubt. Confirmed by both companies. He was so drained that he could not even defend himself when the avengers destroyed him. He was taken out by iron man and wonderman at the start of the slaughter. Damage is nothing more than a poor man's Hulk.

Originally posted by riv6672
For a guy who calls himself a prof. you cant read worth shit.
facepalm

Welcome to KMC

This board would not be alive if it wasn't for Superman threads.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
facepalm

Welcome to KMC Best sig ever!

war hitler...saying this in advance.

A lot of shit to read through for no real input.
Classic KMC.

Wonder Woman
Martian Manhunter
Flash
Barry Allen
Wally West

Originally posted by JBL
Yes he is. Superman is NOT the strongest character in his class. He's barely stronger than Thor if at all. That crossover proved that beyond a shadow of doubt. Confirmed by both companies. He was so drained that he could not even defend himself when the avengers destroyed him. He was taken out by iron man and wonderman at the start of the slaughter. Damage is nothing more than a poor man's Hulk.
So, who is stronger than Superman?

Why don't you show us?

someone said Superman's gotten stronger years after he fought Thor in JLA/Avengers crossover in post crisis. I'd love to see this proof of his strength increase upgrade after that event

Kinda noticed that.
I appreciate uou stepping up though.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Majestic was never shown stronger than Superman.

Daxamites were supposed to be stronger than kryptonians on paper but never appeared as such in the comics. Superman defeated Mon-El and Cir Gand straight up.

No, he hasnt

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
No, he hasnt
Who hasn't?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Majestic was never shown stronger than Superman.

Daxamites were supposed to be stronger than kryptonians on paper but never appeared as such in the comics. Superman defeated Mon-El and Cir Gand straight up.

Could've sworn Superman himself admitted Daxamites are stronger. Wait, he did admit that...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/9/98379/2094972-man_of_steel_60_06_07.jpg

Originally posted by riv6672
A lot ... to read through for no real input.
Classic KMC.



Can't say that of the entry I gave before, Riv.

Give serious responses some acknowledgement and you'll likely get better responses.



1. Gotham Girl


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Source: Batman #5
Circa: 2016

Originally posted by carver9
Could've sworn Superman himself admitted Daxamites are stronger. Wait, he did admit that...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/9/98379/2094972-man_of_steel_60_06_07.jpg
This is what happened next even after the daxamite suckerpunched Superman and Superman was tired.

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Does that look like someone stronger beating on someone?

He was also dying from lead poisoning.

Kon El beat the crap out of Mon El, when he was in the later stages of poisoning.

Assuming DC writers can actually think of something to do with such a unique character besides simply killing her off, I see great potential for Claire ...


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Source: Batman #24
Circa: August 2017




At the least, they could acceptably "cheat".

In fact, to be completely honest, even now I sense a Lazarus pit in someone's near future ...

She's still around?

I thought Batman said he was going to train her so she doesn't need her powers. Since they kill her a little more every time she uses them.

Originally posted by cdtm
He was also dying from lead poisoning.

Kon El beat the crap out of Mon El, when he was in the later stages of poisoning.
Tolos straight up said his power was restored and later Superman was straight up said to be stronger than the daxamite.

https://s31.postimg.cc/mge8crafv/image.jpg

https://s31.postimg.cc/f0jk4v4g7/image.jpg

Yeah, but what does Tolos know? Guy was just some disembodied body thief.

The Daxamites himself, when he was free of his control between kidnappings, tested himself with instruments, and claimed he was dying from lead exposure.

Sunlight didn't restore the Invasion Daxamites to full health. They were only stopped, because they started falling like stones mid battle against Supes (In a pretty short encounter)

Lead in the air = Kryptonite to them.

Originally posted by abhilegend
This is what happened next even after the daxamite suckerpunched Superman and Superman was tired.

https://s31.postimg.cc/wqgnbzkvr/image.jpg https://s31.postimg.cc/6uwwssyhj/image.jpg https://s31.postimg.cc/jmb2zbvev/image.jpg https://s31.postimg.cc/c7lr6jh4n/image.jpg

Does that look like someone stronger beating on someone?

He was POSSESSED and weaker people can beat stronger opponents. It happens. It can not get any clearer than Superman himself telling us this.

Originally posted by cdtm
Yeah, but what does Tolos know? Guy was just some disembodied body thief.

The Daxamites himself, when he was free of his control between kidnappings, tested himself with instruments, and claimed he was dying from lead exposure.

Sunlight didn't restore the Invasion Daxamites to full health. They were only stopped, because they started falling like stones mid battle against Supes (In a pretty short encounter)

Lead in the air = Kryptonite to them.
Right, because that's every writer showing that. Mon El was stronger than Supergirl even after lead poisoning in threeboot Legion.

Heck, Superman was straight up said to be stronger than anything in Kandor.

Originally posted by carver9
He was POSSESSED and weaker people can beat stronger opponents. It happens. It can not get any clearer than Superman himself telling us this.
How does getting possessed mean he was weaker?

Superman straight up caught his punch and beat him black and blue. Let me know when a weaker person does that to a stronger person.

https://s31.postimg.cc/u99himy4r/image.jpg

Superman is straight up said to be stronger than anything in Kandor too.

Originally posted by abhilegend
How does getting possessed mean he was weaker?

Superman straight up caught his punch and beat him black and blue. Let me know when a weaker person does that to a stronger person.

https://s31.postimg.cc/u99himy4r/image.jpg

Superman is straight up said to be stronger than anything in Kandor too.

So if a person is possessed, we are accepting whatever it is that came from that fight?

Originally posted by carver9
So if a person is possessed, we are accepting whatever it is that came from that fight?
In such a blatant fashion, why yes.

Kandor is? And why is it relevant to Superman vs mon el

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Kandor is? And why is it relevant to Superman vs mon el

Different Kandor. It was populated with Daxamites, because DC policy at the time was Superman is the last survivor of Krypton, period, no exceptions.