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Every resource available from each side deployed in unison against the other. Composite forces united. Doomsday and Zod are both allowed to co exist for the purposes of this thread. Asgard has Surtur, etc.

If Asgard gets Surtur to the throne room and gives him the eternal flame buff, I'd lean towards them. I'm not entirely sure how DD or Zod could contend with a buffed Surter.

We really don't know how powerful Krypton really is.

Hela and Odin will kill them all.

Are all of the Kryptonians super powered?

Are the Kryptonians exposed to a yellow dwarf star?

Only the ones who show up on earth have those powers. The other Kryptonians appear as they are in the film with the tech and weaponry they had access to.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Only the ones who show up on earth have those powers. The other Kryptonians appear as they are in the film with the tech and weaponry they had access to.

Then they get stomped by the Asgardians. Without powers they'd just be regular humans with advanced weaponry. Their only hope will lie with the superpowered kryptonians.

Of course if all the Kryptonians get powers then they stomp Asgard.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
If Asgard gets Surtur to the throne room and gives him the eternal flame buff, I'd lean towards them. I'm not entirely sure how DD or Zod could contend with a buffed Surter.

I have a bit of a gripe. The Eternal Flame isn't a buff, it was Surtur's original form. Odin defeated him, and he was reduced to the smaller cripple. That's why he was so mangled and limping when Thor first saw him. Half a million years later, he still hadn't recovered.

Surtur was getting decked by hulk, who is much weaker than superman. Lal and did should be able to take out asgard pretty easily

Someone needs to watch the movie again, maybe get someone to explain the parts they don't understand.

what could 90%nonpowered kryptonians possibly do to magical asgardians??

I remember him hanging off of sultur's head. Also lets not pretend that every asgardian is on thor's level. Their bones ate weak enough to be broken by earth bullets

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
I remember him hanging off of sultur's head. Also lets not pretend that every asgardian is on thor's level. Their bones ate weak enough to be broken by earth bullets

What living Asgardian was ever hurt by earth bullets?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
I remember him hanging off of sultur's head. Also lets not pretend that every asgardian is on thor's level. Their bones ate weak enough to be broken by earth bullets So who wins the battle?

Originally posted by FrothByte
What living Asgardian was ever hurt by earth bullets?

I didn't say living, but based on the way the refugees were reacting, i'd say the average asgardian is weaker than the average skelegardian

Originally posted by quanchi112
So who wins the battle?

Hulk was less scared of sultur than he was of thanos, and thanos is only like three captain America's strong.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
I didn't say living, but based on the way the refugees were reacting, i'd say the average asgardian is weaker than the average skelegardian

So you think dead Asgardians who have been desiccating for thousands of years aren't any more brittle than living Asgardians? Ok... sure.

Originally posted by FrothByte
So you think dead Asgardians who have been desiccating for thousands of years aren't any more brittle than living Asgardians? Ok... sure. if anything, I'd say the skelegardian were less brittle than the living asgardians. They were powered by the eternal flame and were posing a huge threat to the civilians.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
if anything, I'd say the skelegardian were less brittle than the living asgardians. They were powered by the eternal flame and were posing a huge threat to the civilians.

You mean unarmed civilians mostly made up of women and children being afraid of armed undead warriors? Gee i wonder why...

It's not just warriors vs farmers. Hela took out an army and the warriors three with the absolute minimalist of effort but thor was able to put up something of a decent fight even before he turned on his god mode. Odin's kin are ridiculously stronger than the rest of asgard.

Faerora, namek, zod and KAL, on the other hand, all had similiar physicality. We can hold the average kryptonian to their standard, while the same cannot be said with asgard and it's elites

It's always amusing reading posts from people that are incapable of understanding what they see.

Asgard wins. Its technologically and millitary superior.

Asgards tech isn't as impressive as the world engines

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Asgards tech isn't as impressive as the world engines

Bifrost》》》 World Engines.

Asgard's Shield》 World Engine

Asgards shields < dark elf ships, sooooo.....

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Asgards shields < dark elf ships, sooooo.....

?????

Dark Elves Ships where destroyed by the Shield.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
It's not just warriors vs farmers. Hela took out an army and the warriors three with the absolute minimalist of effort but thor was able to put up something of a decent fight even before he turned on his god mode. Odin's kin are ridiculously stronger than the rest of asgard.

Faerora, namek, zod and KAL, on the other hand, all had similiar physicality. We can hold the average kryptonian to their standard, while the same cannot be said with asgard and it's elites

Err... no. Namek and Faora never showed the ability to fly, shoot laser beams or remove their mask without getting KO'd.

Zod never showed the kind of speed Superman did in JL.

But zod, faora, and namek were all as strong and durable as superman. They had less control/expierence with their powers, but they were on kal's level.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
But zod, faora, and namek were all as strong and durable as superman. They had less control/expierence with their powers, but they were on kal's level.

No they weren't. If they were then Superman should never have been able to fight off Faora and Namek together.

If Zod was every bit as strong, durable and fast as him then Superman should have easily lost their fight since Zod is trained and has way more fighting experience than he.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Asgards shields < dark elf ships, sooooo.....

What movie did you watch, because it obviously wasn't Thor.

Originally posted by FrothByte
No they weren't. If they were then Superman should never have been able to fight off Faora and Namek together.

If Zod was every bit as strong, durable and fast as him then Superman should have easily lost their fight since Zod is trained and has way more fighting experience than he.

He didn't? Superman was getting batted around despite his flight advantage. It wasn't till he broke faora's mask that they left.

Except did never trained with powers. and even with his training and superior genes, he lost to a nerd before his planet blew up. Zod's training and skill didn't amount to a hill of beans. It was His power that made him formidable.

Originally posted by Silent Master
What movie did you watch, because it obviously wasn't Thor.

Lets be honest no one should have watched that movie and Thor is my favorite Marvel Character.

Saw it like three years ago. Memories fuzzy, but didn't they break through and kill the mom?

Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
Lets be honest no one should have watched that movie and Thor is my favorite Marvel Character. The film is still pretty good.

No its not Dark World is probably at the bottom or 2nd to last just ahead of Iron Man 3. Thor 1 is near the bottom as well. Thank god they made up for it with Ragnarok.

As for this topic..Asgard would win.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
He didn't? Superman was getting batted around despite his flight advantage. It wasn't till he broke faora's mask that they left.

Except did never trained with powers. and even with his training and superior genes, he lost to a nerd before his planet blew up. Zod's training and skill didn't amount to a hill of beans. It was His power that made him formidable.

In other words, you don't think they were as powerful as Superman. So I'm not sure why you're disagreeing with me.

I'm saying that the average kryptonian is around superman level. The average asgardian is not anywhere close to thor.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
I'm saying that the average kryptonian is around superman level. The average asgardian is not anywhere close to thor.

So you have like what, 4 guys who are around Superman levels and the rest are plain human-level? 5 if you include Doomsday?

Asgard has Thor, Odin, Loki, Hela and Valkyrie who are around Thor level. Include Surtur and you have 6. Plus your average Asgardian warrior is >>>>>> average kryptonian.

You left out Bor who appeared in Thor 2.

Originally posted by FrothByte
So you have like what, 4 guys who are around Superman levels and the rest are plain human-level? 5 if you include Doomsday?

Asgard has Thor, Odin, Loki, Hela and Valkyrie who are around Thor level. Include Surtur and you have 6. Plus your average Asgardian warrior is >>>>>> average kryptonian.

Every soldier who stepped on earth is around superman level. Valkyrie and Loki are way below thor.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Every soldier who stepped on earth is around superman level. Valkyrie and Loki are way below thor.

Prove it. Prove that they're all Superman level.

Loki has been able to fight Thor toe to toe, Valkyrie took out Loki. Do I need to explain to you the logic behind this or are you good from here?

Notallthatevil is putting his bias on full display. Double standards, asinine logic, and poor reasoning are his weapons of choice.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Prove it. Prove that they're all Superman level.

Loki has been able to fight Thor toe to toe, Valkyrie took out Loki. Do I need to explain to you the logic behind this or are you good from here?
Because that's how kryptonian biology works. That's how jar el said it works. That's how the guy who drugged superman said it works. That's how zod said it works. I don't need to prove that bucky or red skull can't get drunk, because that's how the super soldier serum works and they get from the same source as Cap.

Thor destroyed Loki until he tricked and stabbed him. Hundreds of valkyrie died to hela at once. Thor could go toe to toe with hela and can withstand the force of a neutron star. Maybe baby pre god mode thor is close to their level, but once he got past losing his safety hammer, he is leagues above them.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Because that's how kryptonian biology works. That's how jar el said it works. That's how the guy who drugged superman said it works. That's how zod said it works. I don't need to prove that bucky or red skull can't get drunk, because that's how the super soldier serum works and they get from the same source as Cap.

Thor destroyed Loki until he tricked and stabbed him. Hundreds of valkyrie died to hela at once. Thor could go toe to toe with hela and can withstand the force of a neutron star. Maybe baby pre god mode thor is close to their level, but once he got past losing his safety hammer, he is leagues above them.

Except I don't recall any other Kryptonians actually stepping on to Earth and displaying powers other than Zod, Faora and Namek.

Thor is better than Loki, that's obvious. Doesn't change the fact that Loki is close enough to Thor that he can give Thor a fight.

So much context being ignored. Notallthatevil is bad at this. Continue to be delusional but which one of the Kryptonians can defeat Surtur? Also Hela was behind Thor he said that how many times. She was going to eventually kill them all including Thor hence why they triggered Surtur.

Hela>thor>100 valkyrie. Ignoring that thor faught hela on asgard, the source of her power, while hela faught the valkyrie in some grand mountain range that is clearly not asgard? Or the fact that thor is like 20 times stronger than his avengers 1 self after figuring out how to generate his own lightning? Or ignoring that we are given a scientific (well, comic book science) reason on where kryptonians get their power from?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Hela>thor>100 valkyrie. Ignoring that thor faught hela on asgard, the source of her power, while hela faught the valkyrie in some grand mountain range that is clearly not asgard? Or the fact that thor is like 20 times stronger than his avengers 1 self after figuring out how to generate his own lightning? Or ignoring that we are given a scientific (well, comic book science) reason on where kryptonians get their power from?

Did the other kryptonians step outside their ship or not?

There was at least 9 out there when did first broke his mask, not including faora and namek

My bad. Just checked. There were four not including faora and namek.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
My bad. Just checked. There were four not including faora and namek.

And they stepped out of their ship onto Earth soil?

Yea. They had to lift zod and help him back on to their carrier.

Doomsday could probably give hela a decent figjt.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Doomsday could probably give hela a decent figjt. Dont you think her skill and unlimited projectiles would tear into Doomsday pretty quickly.

I'm pretty sure his regeneration and consistently increasing strength would make up for it.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
I'm pretty sure his regeneration and consistently increasing strength would make up for it.

++ the only weapon in the whole universe that can be used to stop him is k'nite. And asgardians aint got that.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
I'm pretty sure his regeneration and consistently increasing strength would make up for it. Being impaled did kill him. Twilight sword would destroy his entire body by the way.

Turning off his regen killed him

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Turning off his regen killed him No limits fallacy. They can also bfr him, kiddo.

Well a nuke and a fall from orbit didn't do it, so we have an idea of the upper limit

The only people Asgard has that could take out DD are amped Surtur and probably Odin (though I can't back this up with feats). Hela is the most powerful person the Asgardians have besides them and Supes, Zod, Faora, or DD can all take her out.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Well a nuke and a fall from orbit didn't do it, so we have an idea of the upper limit So? Twilight sword can destroy a planet. Waw was also able to harm him so less than nuke power can harm him.

Asgard is a very tiny planet. Made up of, like, one mountain. And it was doomsday's regen that was so crazy.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Asgard is a very tiny planet. Made up of, like, one mountain. And it was doomsday's regen that was so crazy. How much area did doomsday destroy in battle? Asgard is still a planet made up of a very powerful people with highly advanced technology/magic/defenses.