Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (2019)

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steverules_2
Don't think there's a thread for ep.9 yet (I did a search and found nothing) so yeah here it is. Coming out Dec. 20th. When they reveal the name I'm sure the thread name will be edited.

BruceSkywalker
its gonna be freaking awesome

CPT Space Bomb
Glad for those that are looking forward to this. That being said I couldn't possibly care less. Disney Wars is dead to me. BUT AGAIN, I'm glad for anyone who enjoys it, I can be critical of something and still understand it has merit. thumb up

steverules_2
Can't be any worse than TLJ which I was not a fan of. Abrams returning gives me hope.

Darth Thor
Theres literally nothing to look forward to. The big 3 are gone, and we have already seen Rey defeat Kylo. Dont see the excitement in watching that a second time.

steverules_2
At least we still got Chewbacca...which doesn't mean much

CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Theres literally nothing to look forward to. The big 3 are gone, and we have already seen Rey defeat Kylo. Dont see the excitement in watching that a second time. True. Rey already won in TFA. Boom, Trilogy. Kylo had MORE TRAINING than her, was being trained by Snoke "The Joke" and she was just....absorbing power. She went from survivor to badass who cannot only "Out-force" Kylo but overpower him physically (lol) as well. Rey is fit, but I'm sorry....the skinny girl overpowering grown men (wait a minute....did I just call Kylo a man?) is a stupid trope these days. Superheroes are different. Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, hell even women with years and years of IN DEPTH training like Black Widow I can get behind but Rey just out wacking people with a stick occasionally (we're assuming because it wasn't shown).

She can also fly a spacecraft perfectly, she's a mechanic that can fix problems, she learned an advanced Jedi Mind trick in 2 or 3 attempts without training...etc etc.


Rey is a boring character that has faced little to no adversity and has already beaten her "rival". Essentially she's just going to beat Kylo again in Ep. 9 and everyone will be happy yay. Meh. Uninteresting characters going forward, and legends killed off without class. Good job Disney, good job.

steverules_2
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
True. Rey already won in TFA. Boom, Trilogy. Kylo had MORE TRAINING than her, was being trained by Snoke "The Joke" and she was just....absorbing power. She went from survivor to badass who cannot only "Out-force" Kylo but overpower him physically (lol) as well. Rey is fit, but I'm sorry....the skinny girl overpowering grown men (wait a minute....did I just call Kylo a man?) is a stupid trope these days. Superheroes are different. Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, hell even women with years and years of IN DEPTH training like Black Widow I can get behind but Rey just out wacking people with a stick occasionally (we're assuming because it wasn't shown).

She can also fly a spacecraft perfectly, she's a mechanic that can fix problems, she learned an advanced Jedi Mind trick in 2 or 3 attempts without training...etc etc.


Rey is a boring character that has faced little to no adversity and has already beaten her "rival". Essentially she's just going to beat Kylo again in Ep. 9 and everyone will be happy yay. Meh. Uninteresting characters going forward, and legends killed off without class. Good job Disney, good job.


You left out that she fixed a problem with the falcon that Han couldn't fix, I know you had mechanic but I felt this needed mentioning alone because that was a load of BS. No one and I mean NO ONE, apart from maybe Chewie, knows more about the Falcon than Han especially someone who's been on the Falcon for 5 damn minutes

Robtard
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Theres literally nothing to look forward to. The big 3 are gone, and we have already seen Rey defeat Kylo. Dont see the excitement in watching that a second time.

I'm fine with the legacy characters being sent off, as the stories need to move forward and beyond them, though I wasn't much of a fan of Luke's passing the way it was handled, he essentially over-Forced himself. I'd prefer that he died in actual combat, not punking Kylo.

But in regards to Kylo & Rey, with the time-jump, they're both going to have increased in power. Kylo in ep8 was already more powerful than in ep7, why he was able to shield or confuse his thoughts/desires from Snoke. We can also assume that both Kylp and Rey have probably been focusing and training themselves in what we don't see between the films.

Robtard
Originally posted by steverules_2
You left out that she fixed a problem with the falcon that Han couldn't fix, I know you had mechanic but I felt this needed mentioning alone because that was a load of BS. No one and I mean NO ONE, apart from maybe Chewie, knows more about the Falcon than Han especially someone who's been on the Falcon for 5 damn minutes

She used the Force to guide her, like Luke did in epIV stick out tongue

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Theres literally nothing to look forward to. The big 3 are gone, and we have already seen Rey defeat Kylo. Dont see the excitement in watching that a second time.

thumb up

Agreed. Let the new trilogy die already.

Originally posted by steverules_2
At least we still got Chewbacca...which doesn't mean much

Good ol' Chewie was the only character I enjoyed in TLJ.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by Robtard


But in regards to Kylo & Rey, with the time-jump, they're both going to have increased in power. Kylo in ep8 was already more powerful than in ep7, why he was able to shield or confuse his thoughts/desires from Snoke. We can also assume that both Kylp and Rey have probably been focusing and training themselves in what we don't see between the films.


Of course they will both have grown more powerful. My point is weve already seen her overcome him, so dont see why I should be excited to watch her overcome him again.

Josh_Alexander
So long Abrams rebukes, contradicts, and makes Rian's work NON-CANON I shall be happy and really looking forward for this movie...Otherwise...We could expect the WORST trilogy ending movie seen in a long time......

steverules_2
He won't, I consider this whole new trilogy non canon TBH

Robtard
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Of course they will both have grown more powerful. My point is weve already seen her overcome him, so dont see why I should be excited to watch her overcome him again.

Fair enough, but what is she overcomes him not with the power of the Force, but with the power of love? eek!

steverules_2
Originally posted by Robtard
Fair enough, but what is she overcomes him not with the power of the Force, but with the power of love? eek!

You ever try that with Quan?? Are you and him still mortal enemies?

Darth Thor
Originally posted by Robtard
Fair enough, but what is she overcomes him not with the power of the Force, but with the power of love? eek!


Love for his big titties?

Robtard
Originally posted by steverules_2
You ever try that with Quan?? Are you and him still mortal enemies?

I've not bickered with quan for about two years now, maybe longer.

ps It worked

steverules_2
Yeah I remember most threads in the movie discussion and movie vs was just pages and pages of you two arguing back and forth. Nice to know love eventually prevailed.

SpaceMonkey
I feel pot committed to this so I have to watch it. As a life long SW fan, I'll be there opening weekend. Even though I haven't liked these recent movies as much as the originals, I still gotta give them a shot.

Kazenji
Billy Dee Williams reprising his role

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-billy-dee-williams-returning-as-lando-calrissian-xi-1125818

I'm sure they'll find a way to kill off his character.

-Pr-
And annoy a bunch of people while doing it too.

BruceSkywalker
i will be laughing at those people if indeed lando dies

steverules_2

steverules_2
Killing OFF every other OT character

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Kazenji
Billy Dee Williams reprising his role

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-billy-dee-williams-returning-as-lando-calrissian-xi-1125818

I'm sure they'll find a way to kill off his character.

Please don't kill him, JJ

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Please don't kill him, JJ


I've mind melded with JJ.. So Lando dies in the first 10 minutes big grin

Flyattractor
Originally posted by steverules_2
At least we still got Chewbacca...which doesn't mean much

So all that is left from the OG SW Movies is Chewie and R2 and C3PO now? Wow....

Flyattractor
Oh and Lando. I did forget about him....eh.. He should have gotten a cameo in TLJ. Should have been in that casino sitting back winning a game and drinking from a bottle Blaster 80.

Darth Thor
They had to bring him in. These movies only formula - thus far - is to ride off OT Nostalgia. And now theres a situation where neither Harrison Ford or Carrie Fisher can reprise their roles.

Kazenji
D3il2rcqIMA

steverules_2
Billy is coming back to play Han Solo like he did at the end of Empire

https://s8.postimg.cc/51jbq4myd/chewie-lando_2013.jpg

CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by steverules_2
He won't, I consider this whole new trilogy non canon TBH Yep, it's most expensive "fan fiction" of all time.

Surtur
Originally posted by Kazenji
Billy Dee Williams reprising his role

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-billy-dee-williams-returning-as-lando-calrissian-xi-1125818

I'm sure they'll find a way to kill off his character.

So now we know the next character that will be ruined.

playa1258
Hopefully we can get an epic space battle in this one. Endor is still the best in the series so far.

steverules_2
Originally posted by playa1258
Hopefully we can get an epic space battle in this one. Endor is still the best in the series so far.

You didn't like the one in a new hope?

Kazenji
Originally posted by Surtur
So now we know the next character that will be ruined.

I want Disney to surprise me and have them not kill off a legacy character.

StiltmanFTW
I hope Rose and Finn die on the beginning of IX.

playa1258
Originally posted by steverules_2
You didn't like the one in a new hope? Loved that one. Endor is just better.

steverules_2

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I hope Rose and Finn die on the beginning of IX.

believe me they will evil face evil face evil face

StiltmanFTW

StiltmanFTW
https://tinyurl.com/ydalqluq

steverules_2
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
JJ actually had a plan for Finn, Rian was just trolling around and the best he came up with was those scenes that could easily be nothing more than a webisode watchable for free on Youtube.

Sure she doesn't, but let's not make that Instagram shit into some huge deal.

Did you read that tweet? Jar Jar actor is nothing more than an attention whore. It ends with this:

Would this be a good story for my solo show? Lemme know.

Yeah the end I was a bit like a what now?

ares834
Here is the leaked poster.

So much for Kylo's "character development". laughing out loud

God this trilogy is such a mess. Nice to see that the Knights of Ren will have a role though.

Also some character designs have been leaked.

Lando is confirmed.

ares834
C-3PO with a bow caster. Kill me.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by ares834
Here is the leaked poster.

So much for Kylo's "character development". laughing out loud

God this trilogy is such a mess. Nice to see that the Knights of Ren will have a role though.

Also some character designs have been leaked.

Lando is confirmed.


poster looks fan made but will wait until celebration to confirm

ares834

Tzeentch
Seeing that poster makes me want to hang myself.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by ares834
C-3PO with a bow caster. Kill me.


Thats what makes me think its fake.

Either way Knights of Ren have to be in this one. They cant just ignore them for the whole trilogy.

Robtard
If C-3PO is turned into some sort of fighting badass Rebel, that indeed is a huge problem and I enjoyed Ep7-8.

steverules_2
Don't see Rose so that's a step in the right direction

Ridley_Prime
A trailer for this will drop tomorrow apparently...

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
A trailer for this will drop tomorrow apparently...


not a surprise if true.. it'll also play in front of endgame

quanchi112
Great news but everything pales in comparison to Endgame.

Surtur
Let's hope this one is better than the last one.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Surtur
Let's hope this one is better than the last one. Can you afford a ticket?

Surtur
It's their last shot, maybe this will be like the prequels, the first two are dogshit and the last one is decent.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Surtur
It's their last shot, maybe this will be like the prequels, the first two are dogshit and the last one is decent. Made over 3 billion you dork. Do you live in your own reality?

Surtur
In episode 3 we had to ignore the Padme/Anakin scenes in order to enjoy the film.

This movie I expect we'll have to ignore the scenes with Finn and the asian chick.

As George Lucas said "it's like poetry".

quanchi112
Originally posted by Surtur
In episode 3 we had to ignore the Padme/Anakin scenes in order to enjoy the film.

This movie I expect we'll have to ignore the scenes with Finn and the asian chick.

As George Lucas said "it's like poetry". The episodic films are doing quite well. I expect this to follow suit.

Surtur
Bit off topic: Superman vs Batman made more than Citizen Kane.

It's a superior film. Logic baby!!! I m not embarrassed at all to have this thought process.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Surtur
Bit off topic: Superman vs Batman made more than Citizen Kane.

It's a superior film. Logic baby!!! I m not embarrassed at all to have this thought process. The last Jedi was great. Opinions vary you tool bag. Just because you do not like it does not mean anything outside your own weak opinion.


Success is what Disney knows.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by Surtur
It's their last shot, maybe this will be like the prequels, the first two are dogshit and the last one is decent.


The difference is, the Prequels had a good story that was always leading somewhere. These ones dont IMO.

Dont really see how the last one can change that.


Originally posted by Surtur
In episode 3 we had to ignore the Padme/Anakin scenes in order to enjoy the film.



Lucas really did minimise those scenes for Ep.3 though. As he minimised Jar Jar after his backlash in Ep.1.

So he actually did listen. Which is why he ended that trilogy on a very good and well received note.

Surtur
Originally posted by Darth Thor
The difference is, the Prequels had a good story that was always leading somewhere. These ones dont IMO.

Dont really see how the last one can change that.





Lucas really did minimise those scenes for Ep.3 though. As he minimised Jar Jar after his backlash in Ep.1.

So he actually did listen. Which is why he ended that trilogy on a very good and well received note.

Yeah he did tone it down. Not a single mention of sand. Though seriously yeah, I just fast forward through the Padme scenes and otherwise the movie is pretty great.

Being a big SW's fan I've watched all the behind the scenes footage about the prequels that I could and you can tell people never really told George "no".

As for this series...I hope they paid attention to criticism. Either they paid attention or they are gonna double down. At least there are shows like "Rebels".

Darth Thor
Originally posted by Surtur

Being a big SW's fan I've watched all the behind the scenes footage about the prequels that I could and you can tell people never really told George "no".



Well the fans/audiences told him no.

Seriously though thats not all a bad thing. He was basically the biggest Independent filmmaker in Hollywood. It was all his imagination. And love his end product or hate it, no one can deny how damn creative he was.


Originally posted by Surtur

As for this series...I hope they paid attention to criticism. Either they paid attention or they are gonna double down. At least there are shows like "Rebels".

The animated series? Oh that finished and theyve replaced it with a proper kiddy one: Resistance. The new show is a whole new level of turd.

ares834
adzYW5DZoWs

Palpatine is back.

Title is "The Rise of Skywalker"... WTF?

WolvesofBabylon
Almost thought that was the Hamil Joker laugh at the end lol. Anyways I'm excited for this. Hopefully Abrams fixes the mess that was Last Jedi

carthage

Darth Thor
Title seems to indicate Rey is a Skywalker after all??

Sith are not supposed to exist in Spirit form in Canon.

ares834
Only one man can save this franchise:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/11/b5/10/11b5109e1ba91c55d56dd85c84c39278.jpg

dadudemon
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Title seems to indicate Rey is a Skywalker after all??

Sith are not supposed to exist in Spirit form in Canon.

And Luke Skywalker is not supposed to be a whiny little b*tch after maturing but that's what Episode 8 gave us.


Episode 9 may also crap all over ideas of what SW is supposed to be.

relentless1
HOT DAMN, our Lord and master Sidious returns!!

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by ares834
adzYW5DZoWs

Palpatine is back.

Title is "The Rise of Skywalker"... WTF?

WOW... Just freaking wow.. I've watched 20 times already...... The title could mean a 1000 different things from Rey being a Skywalker to Ben coning back into the light.


also here is Ian McDiarmid coming out after the trailer debuts...


https://www.tmz.com/2019/04/12/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-trailer-debut-chicago/

ares834
"Resurrect the past. Clone it, if you have to." - Disney, probably.

Darth Thor

Inhuman
More Palp is always good.
I just hope they dont go the clone EU nonsense route.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Rey being a Skywalker to Ben coning back into the light.


I agree that those things are likely based on the title.

SpaceMonkey
Underwhelming. I can't believe my former favorite movie franchise has fallen this low. I want to go back in time and tell 15 year old me to just let it go and not expect much more so I wouldn't feel the disappointment I've felt these last few years.

BackFire
Think this looks great. Can't wait.

jaden_2.0
Seems like they're just reacting to negative opinions all the time. Which means they never had any idea where they were going when they wrote ep VII. Surely if you're envisioning a trilogy from the start you actually have the bare bones for the entire thing. Apparently not. Just make it up as you go along dependent on people's complaints.

It's working so well for the Alien franchise too.

carthage

BackFire
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Seems like they're just reacting to negative opinions all the time. Which means they never had any idea where they were going when they wrote ep VII. Surely if you're envisioning a trilogy from the start you actually have the bare bones for the entire thing. Apparently not. Just make it up as you go along dependent on people's complaints.

It's working so well for the Alien franchise too.

They've pretty much confirmed this. The idea was to just give each movie to a different filmmaker and just kind of let them do what they wanted while still being more or less connected, they didn't really have any overarching ideas. Very strange decision from them, but whatever.

Bentley
By that laugh at the end of the teaser we all can agree with Quan: Snoke was the strongest force user that ever lived

Impediment

Tzeentch
On the one hand that sounds really shity and I hate it, on the other hand I feel like it's a lot more likely that she'll end up being a Skywalker then the title being about Ben.

Inhuman
Sheev gonna be a force ghost

Impediment

Darth Thor
Originally posted by Inhuman
Sheev gonna be a force ghost


Nah...

I would say hes in hologram form from a holocron recording or something, but that would be a little too deceptive the way theyve teased it.

Tzeentch
What was the TIE fighters plan in that trailer?

Was it trying to hyperspace ram her?

Raptor22
Originally posted by SpaceMonkey
Underwhelming. I can't believe my former favorite movie franchise has fallen this low. I want to go back in time and tell 15 year old me to just let it go and not expect much more so I wouldn't feel the disappointment I've felt these last few years. my sentiments exactly. My love for star wars is hanging on by a thread. If this movie is another dumpster fire i will probably cut the cord for good.

Dr Will Hatch
What a disappointing trilogy we ended up with, and with such underwhelming Episode titles.


At least we had Rogue One.

wakkawakkawakka
Well at least there might be Palpatine going by the laugh.

Also how does Rey have a lightsaber? Didn't it blow up in TLJ?

Tzeentch
Maybe the books she took had instructions on how to make one

Bashar Teg
should have been called "a new triggering"

Darth Thor
Originally posted by Tzeentch

Was it trying to hyperspace ram her?


Always a valid tactic.

Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
What a disappointing trilogy we ended up with, and with such underwhelming Episode titles.


At least we had Rogue One.
I surprisingly ended up liking Solo the most out of what we got tbh, though it was poorly timed and thusly failed.

Ep 9... I dont know how to feel about yet still.

BruceSkywalker

Patient_Leech
Well I have to admit it's a good trailer, but the title is stupid and I have no faith in JJ Abrams, plus it's clear they're just making it up as they go.

Bashar Teg
"member the death star?
member tie interceptors?
member lando?
member palpatine?
member kylo's mask?

star wars: ep iX: member the skywalkers?"


oh and rey does a cool flip. *sigh*

Patient_Leech
^ Yeah, pretty much.

But it was spliced together well. A very competent trailer.

But one can tell it doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be a competent 2-hour movie.

BrolyBlack
Star Wars is worthless.

This series sucksthumb up

Rouge one and Solo are only good movies.

Dr Will Hatch
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
I surprisingly ended up liking Solo the most out of what we got tbh, though it was poorly timed and thusly failed.

Ep 9... I dont know how to feel about yet still.

Solo was surprisingly fun. Not great, but I'd much rather have an anthology movie over another "Saga" episode with characters that I don't care about. Solo was a film where the behind the scenes drama overwhelmed the general audience impression of it to its detriment.

Patient_Leech
I will also give a shout-out to Solo. I enjoyed it more than most of the other new "Star Wars related" films. Not that it was flawless, but it had a bit more grounded adventure and fun in it.

The Force Awakens - cringe worthy bad after the first half
The Last Jedi - visually fun with nice practical gags and creatures etc, and I actually liked what they did with Skywalker, but also had some seriously stupid shit
Rogue One - boring nostalgia grab

jaden_2.0
I agree. I don't know why people rate Rogue One the best of the new films. It's characters were all wooden planks. I've said before, when the only character you care about dying is the robot then you've got a serious problem connecting with the audience.

Tzeentch
Because "i dont have an emotional connection to the characters" is a criticism that applies to 7 out of the 10 star wars movies released thus far.

Dr Will Hatch
I had an emotional connection to the Rogue One characters. Jyn Erso was a good character that I related to. Same for the others.

People don't like that it's an actual war movie and not a space fantasy.

Kazenji
Jyn Erso needed more fire in her if she was suppose to spark the Rebellion, Just came off bland.

Talon Fang
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
I will also give a shout-out to Solo. I enjoyed it more than most of the other new "Star Wars related" films. Not that it was flawless, but it had a bit more grounded adventure and fun in it.

The Force Awakens - cringe worthy bad after the first half
The Last Jedi - visually fun with nice practical gags and creatures etc, and I actually liked what they did with Skywalker, but also had some seriously stupid shit
Rogue One - boring nostalgia grab


I agree with this.

NotAllThatEvil
I just want it to be over so they can move away from the new trilogy cast and start something completely unrelated

Kazenji
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
I just want it to be over so they can move away from the new trilogy cast and start something completely unrelated

Which they are

that other trilogy from the two guys who were involved with the GoT show.

Psychotron
Jesus Christ. What absolute trash. Bringing back Sidious is not only desperate and pathetic but it completely invalidates RotJ's ending, Vader's sacrifice and the whole chosen one prophecy. And wow. Another desert planet, another snow planet and the death star again. How original. Everyone involved in these movies is a hack.

Darth Thor
^ It is desperate. Because they were in a desperate state after Solo flopped and The Last Jedi pretty universally disappointed people.

So it is a desperate move, but perhaps a necessary and smart move for them.


Originally posted by Kazenji
Which they are

that other trilogy from the two guys who were involved with the GoT show.


Bob Iger announced this is the last one for a while:

https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2019/4/12/18307669/star-wars-episode-9-movies-series-hiatus

Kazenji
Originally posted by Darth Thor


Bob Iger announced this is the last one for a while:

https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2019/4/12/18307669/star-wars-episode-9-movies-series-hiatus

Well they're going to get onto that trilogy after Games of Thrones is finished up.

Putinbot1
Rey looks haf in the trailer.

Beniboybling
Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ It is desperate. Because they were in a desperate state after Solo flopped and The Last Jedi pretty universally disappointed people.

So it is a desperate move, but perhaps a necessary and smart move for them.


Bob Iger announced this is the last one for a while:

https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2019/4/12/18307669/star-wars-episode-9-movies-series-hiatus TLJ was the 2nd highest grossing SW film ever and the 9th highest grossing film of all time, Ep 9 will likely break even more box office records and Star Wars is set to be continually profitable for decades to come. Solo "flopped" because of bad marketing and a lack of interest in seeing a Solo movie without Han Solo.

Why hardcore SW fan/haters continue to propagate the myth that their opinions matter I have no idea, lmao.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by Beniboybling
TLJ was the 2nd highest grossing SW film ever and the 9th highest grossing film of all time, Ep 9 will likely break even more box office records and Star Wars is set to be continually profitable for decades to come. Solo "flopped" because of bad marketing and a lack of interest in seeing a Solo movie without Han Solo.

Why hardcore SW fan/haters continue to propagate the myth that their opinions matter I have no idea, lmao.



Oh wow Butthurt Beni action.

TFA to TLJ was the worst drop in box office for a Star Wars Episodic sequel of all time. It dropped by 700MILLION or 35%. TLJ also had the lowest box office multiplier of any Star Wars film ever save Solo.

You put that together with Solo flopping (make all the excuses you want for that), and on top of the increasing hate for Disney Star Wars, and it was quite apparent to Disney that they had to rethink the way they were going about this.

And LMAO at 2nd highest grossing SW film of all time? You comparing it to Star Wars films from 15 to 30 years back? Hey guess what Phantom Menace made more than ANH and was the HIGHEST grossing Star Wars film of all time until TFA, so must have been Universally praises right Beni?

Try looking at the facts objectively, instead of spinning them completely out of context. Even Disney realised they had to revamp shit.

jaden_2.0
Originally posted by Tzeentch
Because "i dont have an emotional connection to the characters" is a criticism that applies to 7 out of the 10 star wars movies released thus far.

None of the characters in Rogue One were remotely likeable. They were all practically the same. Miserable, jaded and boring with the sole exception of the robot. At least TFA and TLJ had Han, Poe and even Finn with a bit of charisma. It's only redeeming part was Vader's massacre at the end.

Surtur
Just saw the trailer. Lol. It all seems so generic now. There is also no point in bringing back Sidious and if you want to do it...you should have kept it secret.

Beniboybling
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Oh wow Butthurt Beni action.
Butthurt is refusing to cut the cord on a something you clearly despise, bitching about it on the internet for the better part of a year like a abused whore. eek!

Be honest, you are going to watch Ep 9 on opening weekend just so you can come here and complain about it. sick

And what a ****ing daft comparison, TFA was the only film to ever breach $2B alongside Avatar and The Titanic, it was the first Star Wars film in a decade, everyone and their mother went to see that movie. It was an event. Of course TLJ didn't compare. Only Infinity War has since. Lmfao.

TLJ also still ranks well above the prequels save TPM when adjusted for inflation, and yes, TPM was a huge financial success, despite butthurt fans.

But sure, one of Disney's most profitable films of the decade was a misfire and they are now desperate, based of a 2-minute teaser.

You are a silly man. sad

Psychotron
Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ It is desperate. Because they were in a desperate state after Solo flopped and The Last Jedi pretty universally disappointed people.

So it is a desperate move, but perhaps a necessary and smart move for them.





Bob Iger announced this is the last one for a while:

https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2019/4/12/18307669/star-wars-episode-9-movies-series-hiatus

It's not smart though. They already took a dump on the OT by making Luke a failure. Now they're going to ruin Vader's sacrifice and the prophecy too. These people have absolutely no respect for Star Wars or its fanbase, which is why I skipped TLJ and Solo in theaters and it looks like I'll skip IX too.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Butthurt is refusing to cut the cord on a something you clearly despise, bitching about it on the internet for the better part of a year like a abused whore. eek!


Nah you're butthurt that people are not praising crap like you are just for the sake of being a corporate whore.



Originally posted by Beniboybling
Be honest, you are going to watch Ep 9 on opening weekend just so you can come here and complain about it. sick


Yeah just like I bitched about Rogue One and Solo and Rebels first season.. Oh wait I didn't.

Stop being a Disney whore and accept there's massive loads of people who've not liked the new movies you insecure fanboy.



Originally posted by Beniboybling
And what a ****ing daft comparison, TFA was the only film to ever breach $2B alongside Avatar and The Titanic, it was the first Star Wars film in a decade, everyone and their mother went to see that movie. It was an event. Of course TLJ didn't compare. Only Infinity War has since. Lmfao.


Oh yeah completely daft comparison comparing a sequel's performance to it's predecessor erm

What a butthurt excuse. You probably didn't even know what a massive drop off it had, and just came in here using box office as your defence but not actually having a clue what you're talking about.

Lets see now... Avengers was only the 3rd movie ever to hit 1.5 billion when it came out. It was also a big event, being the first time multiple franchises had been put together in such a big way like that. Did that mean its sequel was guaranteed to have a whopping 35% drop off. Nope. It only went down by 100mill, and the 3rd film MASSIVELY Surpassed it.

Infinity War was the 4th film to make $2billion. 10 years in the making. You expecting End Game to also drop 700MILLION?

You're just full of silly excuses.



Originally posted by Beniboybling
TLJ also still ranks well above the prequels save TPM when adjusted for inflation, and yes, TPM was a huge financial success, despite butthurt fans.


It had the worst box office multiplier of ALL the previous Star Wars films.

Oh so TPM was Universally loved as well now laughing

Im a massive fan of the prequels, but I'm not gonna sit here and just be delusional using box office as some kind of denial tool.




Originally posted by Beniboybling
But sure, one of Disney's most profitable films of the decade was a misfire and they are now desperate, based of a 2-minute teaser.


Yeah because the Star Wars brand name isn't worth anything. They just paid $4billion for that as charity for George.

You are truly idiotic.

No, based off TLJ's Massive drop off, based off Solo flopping, based off the hate towards the new films, especially TLJ. Based on Disney completely changing direction based on all this, because Disney execs are not blind corporate fanboys like you.



Originally posted by Beniboybling
You are a silly man. sad


At least I'm not a corporate whore.

Tzeentch
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
None of the characters in Rogue One were remotely likeable. They were all practically the same. Miserable, jaded and boring with the sole exception of the robot. At least TFA and TLJ had Han, Poe and even Finn with a bit of charisma. It's only redeeming part was Vader's massacre at the end. Han was ****ing awful and Finn was borderline insulting, Poe is the only one of that trio somewhat likable (and in TLJ he is character assassinated and becomes extremely unlikable, thanks Rian). Pretty much everyone in the R1 crew beyond the two leads were likable at best and forgettable at worse. None of them had enough material to be unlikable.

-Pr-
I liked Donnie Yen too; he was all right. Just, as with everyone else, underdeveloped.

carthage
Thor continuing his insane desperate rants
Your imam would not be pleased

jaden_2.0
Originally posted by Tzeentch
Han was ****ing awful and Finn was borderline insulting, Poe is the only one of that trio somewhat likable (and in TLJ he is character assassinated and becomes extremely unlikable, thanks Rian). Pretty much everyone in the R1 crew beyond the two leads were likable at best and forgettable at worse. None of them had enough material to be unlikable.

Nah.

NotAllThatEvil
I honestly couldn't tell you if I liked rogue one, or I liked rogue one's Darth Vader scene

ares834
Originally posted by carthage
Thor continuing his insane desperate rants
Your imam would not be pleased

But he is right. Bringing back Sheev is an obvious and desperate attempt to appeal to the fans while trying to salvage the mess left behind by Rian. TFA was clearly trying to build up Snoke as the big bad, but Rian ****ed that up when he killed him off. With Snoke dead, there was no character left who could act as the final boss. Kylo isn't a threat, he's already has his ass kicked twice and Rian turned Hux into a spaceballs character. So Lucasfilm brought back Sidious to act as the final villain.

StiltmanFTW
What if Sheev only appears in a flashback, as an illusion or something?

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
What if Sheev only appears in a flashback, as an illusion or something?


ye i can see Sheev in a few flashbacks, maybe a force ghost

ares834
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
What if Sheev only appears in a flashback, as an illusion or something?

Then everyone would be rightfully pissed.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
ye i can see Sheev in a few flashbacks, maybe a force ghost

Exactly.

Or a Holocron.

Originally posted by ares834
Then everyone would be rightfully pissed.

Basically what Disney SW excel at.

Trocity
Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
I honestly couldn't tell you if I liked rogue one, or I liked rogue one's Darth Vader scene

Yeah, the final like half hour or so saves the movie. That scene was epic.

The first half of the movie is honestly pretty garbage.

steverules_2
I enjoyed the space battle, Vader and the robot

Tzeentch
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Nah. you fat Scottish ****, ill come in your bagpipes!

jaden_2.0
You'll get me all excited with talk like that.

Kazenji
Originally posted by Psychotron
It's not smart though. They already took a dump on the OT by making Luke a failure. Now they're going to ruin Vader's sacrifice and the prophecy too. These people have absolutely no respect for Star Wars or its fanbase, which is why I skipped TLJ and Solo in theaters and it looks like I'll skip IX too.

Well we don't know if Palaptine is alive, Could very well be just a force ghost.

wakkawakkawakka
I thought Sith didn't get force ghosts...which would add to why Darth Plagueis/Sidious made such a big deal trying to cheat death.

Also having Palpatine again kind of invalidates Snoke's existence even more so than TLJ

ares834

Kazenji
Marka Ragnos comes to mind from Legends.

steverules_2
Are we seeing the second death star in the trailer?

Kazenji
Certainly looks like it.

Psychotron
Originally posted by Kazenji
Well we don't know if Palaptine is alive, Could very well be just a force ghost.

Sith shouldn't be able to become Force ghosts though. The whole point of the Jedi philosophy is to reach enlightenment that the Sith cannot because they only care about the physical and the material.

Kazenji
Originally posted by Psychotron
Sith shouldn't be able to become Force ghosts though

Unless Palps found a way to do so...Still unknown if there has been any sith that have become ghosts in the current canon

been plenty of sith that have found a way in Legends.

Patient_Leech
It's ok, no one's ever really gone...

gNTLC_uiGFA

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by steverules_2
Are we seeing the second death star in the trailer?

They really should stop making those.

steverules_2
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
They really should stop making those.

Well they usually get blown up so yeah

StiltmanFTW
This is going to happen for the 4th time in current canon, lol.

Patient_Leech
That's why I thought Force Awakens was so cringe-worthy in the second half because it was just another Death Star that was easily dismantled.

BrolyBlack
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
It's ok, no one's ever really gone...

gNTLC_uiGFA

Easily in the top 10 youtube videos of all time, I could keep watching this over and over laughing out loud

ShadowFyre
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
They really should stop making those.

No shit right? Like how many ****ing spaceollars do these things cost?

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