Philosophia's final post
Penultimate chapter - Magneto has a counter for everything
Well, I caught my opponent red-handed and he had to focus on literally the first moment of the battle, otherwise all is lost for him.
I obviously can't read his last post but, suffice to say, there were zero arguments that the fight doesn't end the moment it starts as I lift him off the ground into orbit, using the myriad of methods I have at my disposal , and make him lose consciousness - or do literally anything I want with him since he's helpless in air.
I might just one-shot him like Silver Age Magneto has done:
Since I ran out of space in my last one, let's get a bit deeper here into his sole argument against losing - the awesome thunderclap, second only to the Entropy - perhaps even greater, since it can destroy a Universe instantly!
I want, for a moment, to ignore the fact that the fight doesn't start with them right next to eachother. And also that Magneto has shields which have withstood everything from Mjolnir, to Phoenix, to Galactus. And also as the fact that there's no stipulation that we're seeing eachother from where we're standing.
Let's just focus...on the thunderclap itself. Now, in my very first post, I showed Magneto being able to warp and return on the opponent these kind of offense:
It's only fitting that I show how the thunderclap itself is warped, in return, by the exact same thing:
slower than the speed of sound]
One very important thing is that I don't have to redirect all of the thunderclap. It's a wave coming from .5 miles away . Now, the closest thing to an analogy that comes to mind is a wave at the beach. When the wave slams into you , you didn't take the full, 300 meters wide force, wave. Just the narrow part of it that got to your person. The thunderclap also, obviously, loses power with distance - also something to keep in mind given where we start.
So....yeah. If it feels like I'm just beating a dead horse here, it's because...there's nothing else he has tackled, and has tacitly conceded 95% of my OP.
Damborg also brought up Hulk's physical durability - when I made it a point that's just a distraction. It's weird to see him bring up adamantium, when it was shown as specifically going through WWH like butter:
We have X-23's claws cutting his eyes out. We have Wolverine cutting his eyes out. We have Skaar piercing WBH with sand/earth.
Magneto has, besides everything around him, the nano-edged projectiles to do damage. Since I'm on the topic, and I might as well post some scans I have at hand, Magneto's molecular control over metal allows him to change its molecular structure and strengthen even the constitution of steel by a factor of 1000, casually:
I had scans, just in case there was an attempt to counter to Magneto making him lose unconsciousness with the iron in the blood, or the EMP..but that never came.
Hulk has lost consciousness just from a momentary brain haemorrhage:
Magneto literally controls all the blood to his brain. I won't pop just one blood vessel and give him the time to fall, regenerate and recover - I'll destroy them all, again and again *cue evil laughter* One of my tactics was of that slowing it down until he loses consciousness , but this would work just fine.
Besides planetary level EMPs shutting down his brain, Magneto is also able to control the entire nervous systems. The last time that part of Hulk got attacked with an attack focusing on that, so that Cable could pull remove Onslaught's control, Storm put too much into it and accidentally killed Hulk, then had to revive him....
Meanwhile, Magneto can control and replace the entire nervous system of a Celestial, and he does this continuously for 3 issues while the team goes and confronts Mr. Sinister:
https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t/38785781_CelestialNervousSystem1.jpg https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t/38785783_CelestialNervousSystem2.jpg https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t/38785784_CelestialNervousSystem3.jpg
So let's get to...
Last Chapter - the Overview
I want to put a bit of focus on the bigger picture.
Dear judges, I'd like to do an exercise .
In the first scenario, I'm standing up. Focus on a single point in front of you. Now, try to slam your hands together and then jump precisely in that spot.
In the second scenario, I'd like you to look at that same spot. Now, just think "Shield. Hulk up."
Which one took longer?
I'm pretty sure you finished those thoughts before you even slammed your hands together, nevermind jumped.
Now, imagine that the scenario might be that the object is somewhere around you, and you have to look for it in the first scenario, direct your body towards it, and do the same actions.
In the 2nd scenario, you just sense where it is, and also think "Shield. Hulk up.".
Which one took longer?
Those are the starting scenarios for the start of the fight.
Now, let's take some other facts into account. In the 2nd scenario, your powers have enhanced your nervous system https://tinyurl.com/y7s2vqba], that you can think so fast that you can react to teleportation as it's happening https://imgur.com/EIWQIth]. That you can think fast enough to follow what is basically a photon https://tinyurl.com/y7el3bo3 +
https://tinyurl.com/y9kensba]. That your mind works so fast, that you can do half a dozen things simultaneously https://tinyurl.com/y8rd9m8s
Hulk would have left off for orbit before the thunderclap would even reach Magneto, if he even manages to make it.
I've also touched on this before, but the thunderclap isn't continuous, it's a single 'blast' for a lack of a better world. That's a mistake Damborg made, when he compared it to optic blasts or whomever. Even if he got one off, by the time he jumped and reached me, Magneto would already have redirected/shielded from it, and Hulk would just be instantly sent into orbit.
Since I have it at hand, in order to give you another idea on the scale he operates, here's a feat that is orders and orders of magnitude above what is required here. In hours upon hours of power usage, he grabs a planet-destroying bullet from another solar system light-years away], changes its direction 180 degrees, moves it back into our own solar system, to Earth, then desintegrates it, while separating a phased Kitty from it and shielding himself from everything that can be considered physical/psychic:
Speaking of which...Magneto doesn't have to stop him dead, even if he can. It's in my advantage that I simply redirect his momentum upwards .
Even if we give him, literally all the benefits of a doubt, and Magneto somehow doesn't do anything because of...uh... the holocaust flashbacks or something...Hulk would only get one-shot which Magneto can block:
...and his next thought is sending Hulkolossus into orbit.
Heck, Sue has blocked several WWHulk strikes and had an entire dialogue with him as he was trying to get past the shield to Reed:
...Magneto wouldn't give him that option and instantly remove him.
Once he is up, he is not coming down, since gravity is nullified around him. Magneto has a plethora of options - slow the blood and KO, make a continuous, massive hemorrhage in the brain KOing him, take control of his nervous system KOing him, planetary-EMP his brain, twist the EM field to drain him and more. I can take my time and win this fight in any number of ways.
With that said, I appreciate Damborg a lot for taking this, when our infamous Hulk fan shied away from it.
This has been enjoyable as hell.
All my respect to him