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An invasion force composing of:

millions upon millions of Arachnids (Starship Trooper) mixed complement (similar makeup as the Klendathu invasion, has brain bug, god bug and queen controlling them as well)
100,000 Xenomorphs (Aliens)
50,000 Martians (Mars Attacks! 1996)
5,000 Predators (Predator)
300 Martian ships (Mars Attacks! 1996)
100 Tripods (War of the Worlds)
10 category 5 Kaiju (Pacific Rim)
1 Mothership (Independence Day: Resurgence) with full complement of ships/troops/etc.

Runs the gauntlet:
ALL characters (villains and heroes) join together to fight off the invasion. No outside help is provided. Only the characters based in the worlds are the only ones allowed. No prep. BUT they are allowed to send a delaying force to fight off the invasion force as they try and build something. Characters who died in movies are considered alive for this battle.

All "plot devices" victory paths are removed (no virus can kill the Tripods, no computer virus is going to hack the Mothership, no time travel shenanigans, etc).

1) DCEU Earth
2) MCU Earth
3) MCU Earth and Asgard
4) MCU Earth, Asgard and the Nine Realms (includes Surtur, Frost Giants, Dark Elves, etc).
5) DCEU and MCU Earth, Asgard and the Nine Realms
6) DCEU, MCU Earth, Asgard, the Nine Realms and CW DC TV series Earth.
7) DCEU, MCU, Asgard, the Nine Realms, CW DC TV series Earth and X-men Earth.
8) DCEU, MCU, Asgard, the Nine Realms, CW DC TV series Earth and X-men Earth (future Sentinels allowed).
9) DCEU, MCU, Asgard, the Nine Realms, CW DC TV series Earth and X-men Earth (future Sentinels allowed) and Fantastic Four Earth (Surfer allowed, no Galctus).
10) All of the above plus Reeves Superman and Smallville Superman.
11) All of the above plus Thanos and his forces and the Infinity gauntlet.

Fight happens in our version of Earth. Comic universe teams are teleported to the surface of our planet and all inhabitants are placed in hundreds of thousands of bunkers similar to those in Pacific Rim.

Bear in mind the invasion force wins when the entire planet has been subjugated or if the entire population is killed.

Defending force is made aware of the invading force as they approach the Earth's moon. Defending force is assumed willing to work together and are battle-ready. Best version of characters allowed.

How far does the invasion force get?

Gotta lean towards the Comic Book Side to win the majority of this. Only challenge I could see is how well the Aliens (Martians Tripods/ID4 ) shield technology and Blasters effect the higher rank heroes.

I'd need to read in more detail to comment individually. But, right off the bat, pretty sure everyone you listed will be able to detect the enormous, planetoid-sized ID mothership before it's literally right on top of them... Unlike the massively incompetent twats from the actual film. Which will give them a hell of a lot more prep than the guys in the film had. And they still managed to win the day IIRC, with just people. Not a whole roster of heroes and everything they can bring to the table.

I know the Earth guys in the film technically had years of prep, but it sucked. Whoopie, they built space lasers. Doesn't mean anything if their scanning equipment is so garbage they can't detect something that large coming at them until it's too late.

What I actually see as being kind of a bastard to deal with are the Xenomorphs, especially if Facehuggers are allowed. That can turn into a nightmare infestation very quickly if they manage to spread among the populace.

Bear in mind this is not a "kill the heroes" gauntlet. Heroes lose once Earth's (our Earth) population is either fully subjugated or killed. Since it is practically impossible to kill every last human, let's say around 99.999% casualty rate?

DCEU earth can stop them... i think..

Aliens clear 1 and 2. Probably stops at 3. Definitely stops at 4.

Originally posted by The Spectre+
DCEU earth can stop them... i think..

How? They only got like what? More or less 20 superhumans maybe?

How are they stopping the invasion force of literally millions before they wipe out humanity?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Aliens clear 1 and 2. Probably stops at 3. Definitely stops at 4.

What would you say is the big "stopper" here? Independence aliens would number in the millions, ships in the thousands. What in the nine realms would be able to deal enough damage to those kinds of numbers?

So, are facehuggers on the table, or are the xenomorphs limited to their starting numbers?

Not that dealing with 100,000 of them, on top of everything else, would be easy to do already. But 100,000 could potentially grow to millions in not that much time if they spread and can reproduce.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
What would you say is the big "stopper" here? Independence aliens would number in the millions, ships in the thousands. What in the nine realms would be able to deal enough damage to those kinds of numbers?

The Asgardian troupes on their own should already number in the hundreds of thousands. Ditto for frost giants and dark elves. MCU earth has SHIELD, HYDRA and Wakanda. Unleashing the bifrost would decimate those ships while they're still in the air. The Asgardian and Dark elf technology should be sufficient to take on the alien technology as well. Surtur at full power should be powerful enough to take on any of the Kaiju. And each of the Frost giants and Asgardians should be individually more powerful than the alien ground troops.

In the end it's the combination of Asgardian, Dark elven, SHIELD, HYDRA and Wakandan technology that made me pick #4 as the stoppage. That's not even taking into consideration individuals like Dr. Strange, Thor, The Ancient one, Odin, Hela, Wanda, IM, Kure, Hulk, etc. Majority of those guys can take out thousands of the enemy individually. Is Ego and Dormamu allowed here?

I just had a thought. CW-verse is included. So, does the Flash get a "Run, Barry, run!" pep-talk beforehand or not?

Originally posted by FrothByte
The Asgardian troupes on their own should already number in the hundreds of thousands. Ditto for frost giants and dark elves. MCU earth has SHIELD, HYDRA and Wakanda. Unleashing the bifrost would decimate those ships while they're still in the air. The Asgardian and Dark elf technology should be sufficient to take on the alien technology as well. Surtur at full power should be powerful enough to take on any of the Kaiju. And each of the Frost giants and Asgardians should be individually more powerful than the alien ground troops.

In the end it's the combination of Asgardian, Dark elven, SHIELD, HYDRA and Wakandan technology that made me pick #4 as the stoppage. That's not even taking into consideration individuals like Dr. Strange, Thor, The Ancient one, Odin, Hela, Wanda, IM, Kure, Hulk, etc. Majority of those guys can take out thousands of the enemy individually. Is Ego and Dormamu allowed here?

Most of the Asgardian forces are ground-bound though. Dark Elf ships were pretty impressive but were also slow (were they even shielded? I can't recall) and I don't think number enough to make a difference vs the massive alien fighter complement.

Don't forget Martians were a pretty advanced. They were able to suck a nuclear explosion into a bong so any powerful bomb would be out of the question.

Can't remember the rainbow Bifrost being weaponized against moving targets though (tho it will probably mess up the mothership).

I'm trying to remember, didn't the mother ship have some sort of main gun? Not sure as the movie didn't really make that much of an impression on me lol.

No Ego or Dormmy (as they aren't based on MCU Earth).

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I just had a thought. CW-verse is included. So, does the Flash get a "Run, Barry, run!" pep-talk beforehand or not?

If the invasion force makes it that far, sure. :P characters (after all) are assumed to be at their best.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
So, are facehuggers on the table, or are the xenomorphs limited to their starting numbers?

Not that dealing with 100,000 of them, on top of everything else, would be easy to do already. But 100,000 could potentially grow to millions in not that much time if they spread and can reproduce.

Def facehuggers. Consider the xeno force as a full complement indicative of the numbers involved. W/c means multiple queens as well. Laying them eggzz.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Def facehuggers. Consider the xeno force as a full complement indicative of the numbers involved. W/c means multiple queens as well. Laying them eggzz.

Welp, that's going to be a horrifying prospect to deal with then, on top of everything else. Good thing you allowed Barry his trump card then, lol. Pep-talked Flash is damn near unbeatable.

Comic book side eventually...

Nibe forgot to add Pacific Rim and Godzilla verse

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Comic book side eventually...

Nibe forgot to add Pacific Rim and Godzilla verse

Godzilla is too hard to debate with, too many showings of just wonky stuff. (Godzilla-karate for one).

As for Pacific rim....

Originally posted by Nibedicus
10 category 5 Kaiju (Pacific Rim)

uhuh

Guys, bear in mind that the invasion fleet's goal is NOT to beat the superhumans but to kill humanity (us, essentially). W/c means they would mosty likely spread out to accomplish their goals and avoid fighting in areas where they would be at a disadvantage (a ground war vs the Asgardians is something they would avoid for example) when they can. They also would likely not group up vs the likes of Surtur (to avoid getting wiped).

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Godzilla is too hard to debate with, too many showings of just wonky stuff. (Godzilla-karate for one).

As for Pacific rim....



uhuh

Didnt read the Kaiju lol.

Could have brought Skull Island and MUTOs

Wait... I just read this happens on our Earth. Fight never happens. Heroes get shamed for having "unrealistic" body types and leave, feeling self-conscious. We all then get eaten by aliens.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
How? They only got like what? More or less 20 superhumans maybe?

How are they stopping the invasion force of literally millions before they wipe out humanity?
I was not serious when i said that. But then, the heroes could put up a fight; amazonians, antlanteans, zod and his hench men with their ships..(the suicide squad might not do much)
Well at the end, as you pointed out they do little or no damage.

Originally posted by The Spectre+
I was not serious when i said that. But then, the heroes could put up a fight; amazonians, antlanteans, zod and his hench men with their ships..(the suicide squad might not do much)
Well at the end, as you pointed out they do little or no damage.

Well, it's not that. I'm sure they can do SOME damage. Just that they might not be able to stop them anywhere close to in time due to numbers.

Although I might be forgetting one or two characters here especially if they have any hax characters in the DCEU I'm not remembering.

Also, Zod and the Kryptonians aren't Earth-based. This is Earth-based characters only.

Well, one thing that should help the heroes is having the sorcerers, at least for Round 2 and onwards. Portal'ing around means potentially circumventing things like alien forcefields in order to potentially deliver strategic attacks at certain points.

That Mothership would just be...devastating.
I see the heroes giving a goof fight from round 7 or 8.

The "smaller" Independence Days ships (the ones that descended to Earth and set over major cities) had shields that nukes could not get through. Going to need Reeves Superman. Or Juggernaut running through them

Originally posted by K-Dog
The "smaller" Independence Days ships (the ones that descended to Earth and set over major cities) had shields that nukes could not get through. Going to need Reeves Superman. Or Juggernaut running through them

They win at round 10....Well after the planet gets devastated ofcouse...

So all of that stuff at the same time??

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
So all of that stuff at the same time??

Yep. Heroes are in for a bad, bad day.

Because, like I said, beyond the legions of other aliens to deal with, a 100,000 strong full Xenomorph infestation is going to be an absolute nightmare to deal with, especially if the Facehuggers get in among the heroes or their allies.

And that's not even getting into the more exotic things the aliens can throw out, like the psychics among the ST Arachnid aliens.

Originally posted by K-Dog
The "smaller" Independence Days ships (the ones that descended to Earth and set over major cities) had shields that nukes could not get through. Going to need Reeves Superman. Or Juggernaut running through them

Surfer would be the answer to that, I think, he would just phase thru the shield like he did with Sue's shields and do a Galactus killer blast.

Those would certainly pose a problem, yes. It is an option for the heroes if they can't breach the shields, tho. Surfer could also just fly around blowing stuff up inside the vessel til he hits something important. Would be pretty nigh impossible for them to hit a very small very fast moving object that can phase thru solid objects (making chasing him very very dangerous) via unguided slow firing energy weapon bursts IMO.

Well, as I pointed out as well earlier, sorcerer portals could also potentially circumvent things like forcefields. Can get Strange and Wong to drop a few heroes with explosives on some of the command ships or something. Not saying it's a tactic they could apply across the board, obviously, but don't see why they can't use it against some of the targets.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Surfer would be the answer to that, I think, he would just phase thru the shield like he did with Sue's shields and do a Galactus killer blast.

The Galactus-killer blast would only destroy the targetted ship, since the other ships woud still have their shields.

Furthermore, it's clear that such an attack would cause massive colateral damage... Also remember that the Surfer would be K.O'ed from such an attack and therefore it isn't efficient.

I'm thinking 4 or 5, so I'll say 5. By that time, Earth has

- Supers, Zod, and the Kryptonians
- Enchantress and Incubus
- Flash
- Doomsday
- WW and the rest of the JL
- Steppenwolf and the parademons
- Amazonians and Atlanteans
- Bleeding Edge Iron Man
- Dr. Strange
- Wakanda
- Asgard, Thor, Surtur, Hulk, Hela, Odin, Heimdall, Kurse, Malekith, the Destroyer armor, Cask of Endless Winters or whatever it was called, black hole grenades, Asgard's shield tech
- SHIELD, Hydra helicarriers from WS, etc.

Lots of bodies, lots of speed, lots of strength, lots of durability, and some serious hax-powered superheroes and villains.

Enchantress, Zod, Wakanda & Asgard's shields, Hela, and all the armies go toe-to-toe with the invasion force in full defense mode while a team of Supes, Cyborg, Iron Man, Thor, Dr. Strange, Hulk, Kurse, etc. go after the crucial targets (hive-mind bugs from Starship Troopers, mothership from ID4:2, etc.).

Can Dr. Strange use the time gem to just reset everything if they lose or if they fail at critical points?

If they can't cut it, by the time we get to CW DC, X-Men, and the Fantastic Four, you have
- Xavier
- Phoenix
- Apocalypse
- Apoc-powered Magneto
- Quicksilver
- 4th-wall breaking Deadpool ("Man, that mothership is HUGE! Well, if you can't make a better sequel, just make a bigger one. Speaking of sequels: Deadpool 2 in theaters now and soon to be on home media!"
- pep-talked (haha) Barry
- Silver Surfer
- Dr. Doom and Reed's shenanigans

I think they'll be good.

If not, Reeves and Welling Supermen push and punch all the ships into the sun.

Thanos is overkill.

Question about this paragraph.

"ALL characters (villains and heroes) join together to fight off the invasion. No outside help is provided. Only the characters based in the worlds are the only ones allowed. No prep. BUT they are allowed to send a delaying force to fight off the invasion force as they try and build something. Characters who died in movies are considered alive for this battle."

When u say all characters villains and heroes even ones who died, are u including armies and groups from the past?

Use the MCU and Caps first movie for example. Are u including all the forces from ww2 on both sides, red skull, his hydra army with tesseract weapons, the howling comandoes etc... Plus modern day forces, military, shield etc... Or just the "main" characters, Cap, red skull etc...

All characters who died in the movies but it has go be modern day versions (unless specified such as the future Sentinels). But, as specified, you may pull the best version of said character.

Shield/Hydra/armies are modern versions only. But yeah, you get them all (anyone you want to pull as long as they are Earth-based).

With regards to SHIELD. Are we talking about them at the height of their modern power? Considering you are saying they are at their best. So, SHIELD with helicarriers and such. Basically, Avengers 1 SHIELD.

Because current SHIELD (at least with regards to how useful they are going to be here) is basically Daisy and a handful of others. They're nowhere near the force they were even five years ago, after just taking hit after hit, both in the films and shows (the whole TWS Hydra reveal, and all the issues with being declared criminals, having their base blown up by LMDs etc.).

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
With regards to SHIELD. Are we talking about them at the height of their modern power? Considering you are saying they are at their best. So, SHIELD with helicarriers and such. Basically, Avengers 1 SHIELD.

Because current SHIELD (at least with regards to how useful they are going to be here) is basically Daisy and a handful of others. They're nowhere near the force they were even five years ago, after just taking hit after hit, both in the films and shows (the whole TWS Hydra reveal, and all the issues with being declared criminals, having their base blown up by LMDs etc.).

Yep. Shield at its best.

One thing is for sure though. Once they finish killing all this fodd, the world will be a mess.