Originally posted by Zentrex
Emotions give way to your alignment, but not necessarily the application of powers.
Your view of the force is based on the idea that certain emotions are a pathway to certain powers/applications. This is what the movies present to us.
I don't share this view, however.
In my thinking, if you go with the natural flow of the force (let's say "serve the light"
, you create and exude harmony, serenity, love, all that good stuff. If you go against it ("serve the dark"
, you create and exude chaos, anger, hatred, pain, etc.
The inverse is, if you feel order, harmony, serenity, and love, you can get access to lightside powers. If you feel chaos, anger, hatred, and pain, then you get access to darkside powers.
Some users serve the light by feeling the dark, and vice versa. Think of it like lightsaber forms. A lightsider can use an aggressive rythm of movement while still serving the light. A jedi can disrupt the flow of the force on a smaller scale to exacerbate it on a bigger scale.
An even stranger concept is the ability to manipulate the world as the dark side does, while still feeling the light side, which is what we call Vaapad. It proves that emotions and connection to a certain side of the force is not a 1:1 type deal, all the time.
My proof for the above is Vaapad (that and the many other non-jedi/sith religions I mentioned). Windu may be wielding negative emotions when using it, but it's also been stated that one must stay calm and collected on the inside, while seeming like a bomb about to go off on the outside. He's not "using the dark side for the greater good", he's serving the light by manipulating the world through the dark. Like starting to run from farther back, so that you can jump farther ahead.
What's more is, Vaapad has been stated to "let the dark side pass through a user without touching him/her", and "rolling off the user." Windu said it's "a path that leads through the penumbra of the dark side." Count Dooku called it "skirting the dark side." So you're not actually using the dark side. You're calling on it, but you're not embracing it. You can feel all these emotions that Windu feels when he uses Vaapad, yet still not technically be applying the dark side, as much as aiming and redirecting it.
This proves that serving the dark or light and manipulating your surroundings are different.
While most users stick to manipulating their surroundings through the side they serve, these guys are the exceptions (along with Starkiller, Vectivus, and probably a few others). They do switch between the two extremes, but with their application, not their alignment. They serve the light, yet manipulate the force with the dark and light in equal increments.
The problem arrives when someone tries to serve both the light and the dark. You can't. But you can serve niether, as The Je'Daii and the Jensaarai did. This is what I would consider a true "neutral" force user.
It's true Revan did switch between serving the dark and the light, and Windu really only served the light, but they're the only well known characters who are closest ot being "neutral."
TL;DR application and alignment are different. There's two types of gray jedi: ones who have one alignment but switch between applications, and those who don't have an alignment. There are those who try to have both alignments, but that's impossible, so they fail.
Dude, you aren't debunking my arguments. You say other things.
Neutral=neither that nor this
Neither light nor dark.
Force users who use use one side or shift from one another cannot be called neutral or grey. Grey Force Jedi is a stupid concept.
Vectivus was a Dark Lord of the Sith and had their traits. He just kept most of his desires in check because he saw no meaning in it because it was not profitable to him. Vectivus is just like Nadd who (only) conquered Onderon and had no desire to conquer other planets.