Who is the More VILLAINOUS? Joker or Thanos?

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Flyattractor
Nods to that Other Thread.

Well? Which Character is actually the more THE VILLAIN?

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Which Character is actually more EVIL!?

Let the Shill Battle Commence?

TheVaultDweller
This is hard to judge, because they have very different mindsets.

Thanos was very cold and calculated, and had a very specific/plan goal in mind.

The Joker, in comparison:

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If we're going by destructive scale, Thanos wins. However, while the Joker didn't kill as many people, he corrupted someone into becoming a villain, which is another kind of evil in itself.

Flyattractor
Kind of true, but if you have each the Inf Stones. Who would do the more EVIL things with it?

TheVaultDweller
Well, we already know Thanos chose to commit universal-scale genocide. That's pretty far up there in terms of evil acts.

I am not sure the Joker would do something like that. Like he said, he's a dog chasing cars. If he caught one, what would he actually do with it? Joker seems like the kind of guy that, if he actually collected all the Stones, he'd try and have them destroyed or something just to troll anyone else who might want them for other plans.

Flyattractor
Could Thano's reasoning behind his Genocide be considered truly Evil though or just horribly misguided?

TheVaultDweller
Well, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Doesn't matter how he tries to justify it, mass-murder of innocents on a universal scale is phucked up.

Now, if it is a question of who does things specifically for bad reasons, then it's the Joker. Because he does things for the sake of causing chaos and destruction. Thanos actually thought he was doing the right thing.

relentless1
Joker easily, he actually did stuff for the chaos and malice of it all. Thanos thought he was doing a good thing and he arguably was... You wouldn't see Joker cry having to kill somebody like Thanos did and you wouldn't see Joker even claiming to have any loved ones... except for his fake stories wink

NemeBro
Thanos has some redeeming qualities and humanity in him.

The Joker is pure, unrestrained evil, with the only limitations to his malice being physical.

In terms of who is more villainous or evil, Joker easily.

Darth Thor
If Joker has the IG he would literally torture the Galaxy.

TheVaultDweller
Planet-sized pencils flying everywhere.

Silent Master
An argument could be made that the Joker isn't actually evil, he's just crazy.

TheVaultDweller
I look at it in D&D terms (yup, time to get extra nerdy).

Joker
Alignment: Chaotic Evil

Thanos
Alignment: Lawful Evil

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I look at it in D&D terms (yup, time to get extra nerdy).

Joker
Alignment: Chaotic Evil

Thanos
Alignment: Lawful Evil

100% agreed...

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Thanos thinks he's doing the right thing in his mind, so he's absolutely Lawful Evil as he's fully willing to hurt or kill anyone in his path to achieve his "greater good"...

Joker, on the other hand, knows what he does is completely and utterly wrong and doesn't give a [email protected]


As a result, Joker is far more evil than Thanos...

Surtur
Thanos is dumb enough to believe he's doing something worth while. Joker just likes to burn shit.

Joker is more villainous, Thanos more naive.

CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by Darth Thor
If Joker has the IG he would literally torture the Galaxy. Yep. Joker is chaotic evil. Thanos is neutral evil.

CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by Surtur
Thanos is dumb enough to believe he's doing something worth while. Joker just likes to burn shit.

Joker is more villainous, Thanos more naive. I wouldn't go that far. Thanos is far from Dumb or naive. I think we're gonna get good reasoning for why he thought his was was the only way in the next film. IW certainly sets it up like there will be an explanation anyway.

Surtur
Originally posted by Darth Thor
If Joker has the IG he would literally torture the Galaxy.

There is no "if" lol. When the Joker got cosmic power(A 5D imps power) he did exactly that. Except not the galaxy, the universe.

Surtur
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
I wouldn't go that far. Thanos is far from Dumb or naive. I think we're gonna get good reasoning for why he thought his was was the only way in the next film. IW certainly sets it up like there will be an explanation anyway.

I'm sure he thinks he has a good reason for it. Probably thinks he is fulfilling some cosmic balance or some silly shit.

TheVaultDweller
Well, in a way, that's exactly what it was. He thought the universe had an overpopulation problem and not enough resources to go around. So, he decided to balance out the consumer-consumable ratio, so to speak.

Surtur
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Well, in a way, that's exactly what it was. He thought the universe had an overpopulation problem and not enough resources to go around. So, he decided to balance out the consumer-consumable ratio, so to speak.

Seems like he's just looking for excuses to be an evil dick. The IG could have solved that problem in loads of ways that didn't involve killing half the universe.

It's making me wish they just went with "he just wants to please death".

TheVaultDweller
Well, I have seen theories that speculate that the reason he gives in the film is just an excuse. And he is using that specific tactic because of spite, because it was what he suggested on Titan, was denied, and then it all went to shit. But eh, that's just a fan theory.

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Josh_Alexander
More evil: Joker
THE VILLAIN: Thanos.

Thanos wasnt really evil, since all he did was in order to save the universe.

Flyattractor

quanchi112
Originally posted by Flyattractor
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Thanos wins.

Flyattractor
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos wins.

Nah. Thanos CRIED in his Movie when he SACRIFICED Gamora for the Better of the Universe.

Either Movie Joker (Ledger or Especially Nicholson) would have Made Jokes about it.

Thanos is DEF the Weaker Villain.

Joker Wins.

So SUCK ON THAT SHILL BOY!!!!!!

eek!

CPT Space Bomb
Originally posted by Surtur
Seems like he's just looking for excuses to be an evil dick. The IG could have solved that problem in loads of ways that didn't involve killing half the universe.

It's making me wish they just went with "he just wants to please death". That's the thing though, that's not necessarily a given. Considering that killing half of the universe seemed to have damaged Thanos' limbs and nearly destroyed the IG.....perhaps he knew what it was capable of or at least predicted. Perhaps Itri told Thanos what his gauntlet would be able to withstand and the only option was removing and not adding. Also, adding resources would have been equally as dumb because:
A) You need room to put all those resources
B) You would actually ensure that MORE people/aliens start reproducing thus adding to an already overcrowded universe.

I'm kinda playing devil's advocate here but I'm waiting to see how they go about explaining Thanos' thought process in the next movie.

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Flyattractor
He Cried, and then got all Remorseful over it. That makes him REDEEMABLE and thus a WEAK VILLAIN

He is WEAK!!!!!!!!

Face the Facts Shill Boy!!!!!

Thanos has become a SJW MILLENNIAL PUSS-BALL!!!!!!!

Joker Wins!

Suck on it SHILL BOY!!!

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Flyattractor
HE CRIED LIKE A LITTLE *****!!!!!!!!!!!

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Flyattractor
HE CRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HE CRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HE CRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!
HE CRIED!!!!!!!!!!!

HE IS A BITTTCHH!!!

HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

quanchi112
Originally posted by Flyattractor
HE CRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HE CRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HE CRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!
HE CRIED!!!!!!!!!!!

HE IS A BITTTCHH!!!

HAHAHAHAHAH!!!! The man cared and has depth. He is a man of ideals and principles and despite the emotion he pressed on to finish what he set out to do. Thanos is the biggest, best and the baddest villain in cinematic history.

Flyattractor
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There ya go Cry Baby. Share the box with Thanos.

quanchi112

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by Flyattractor
Nah. Thanos CRIED in his Movie when he SACRIFICED Gamora for the Better of the Universe.

Either Movie Joker (Ledger or Especially Nicholson) would have Made Jokes about it.

Thanos is DEF the Weaker Villain.

Joker Wins.

So SUCK ON THAT SHILL BOY!!!!!!

eek!

thumb up

quanchi112

BruceSkywalker
Thanos is more villainous than the Joker..

The Joker just wanted to create anarchy. He took the best of Gotham and tore him down.

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Thanos on the other hand, killed billions to reshape the world

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Thanos is more villainous than the Joker..

The Joker just wanted to create anarchy. He took the best of Gotham and tore him down.

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Thanos on the other hand, killed billions to reshape the world

Universe....

TheLordofMurder

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quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Did Thanos tear up over Gamora? Thanos killed her. He is so villainous.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos killed her. He is so villainous.

But...

Did the tears ROLL down his face over that green chick?

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
But...

Did the tears ROLL down his face over that green chick? Thanos cared deeply for her but she still died. He was willing to sacrifice anything to achieve his goals like a true villain.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos cared deeply for her but she still died. He was willing to sacrifice anything to achieve his goals like a true villain.

So you admit that Thanos went "boo-hoo" over a woman?

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TheLordofMurder

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
So Thanos cried like a baby and mourned a hard headed chick with a green booty? He cried like a man who was willing to give up what he cherishe to reach his goals. The depth to the character is unheard of in villainy. Thanos is truly the biggest, baddest, and the best villain of the MCU and all fiction.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
He cried like a man who was willing to give up what he cherishe to reach his goals. The depth to the character is unheard of in villainy. Thanos is truly the biggest, baddest, and the best villain of the MCU and all fiction.

Thanos cried over a little skinny green wh0r3...

His villianry is nothing compared to Jokers...


You admitted that Thanos is a ho3...

You have conceded the debate...


Joker wins...

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relentless1
If Big Dave (Drax) says she's a wh0re then she's a wh0re

TheLordofMurder

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by relentless1
If Big Dave (Drax) says she's a wh0re then she's a wh0re

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quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Tell me...

The tears that Thanos shed over Gamora...were they salty? Thanos cared yet still killed her. Joker cares for nothing even himself therefore he is nothing. Joker is lame as ****. He always has been some weak ass villain.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos cared yet still killed her. Joker cares for nothing even himself therefore he is nothing. Joker is lame as ****. He always has been some weak ass villain.

But you didn't answer the question...

When Thanos cried his eyes out over Gamora, were the tears salty!??

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
But you didn't answer the question...

When Thanos cried his eyes out over Gamora, were the tears salty!?? You are avoiding the topic like the immature and manbaby we knew you to be, Thanos is the bigger, badder, and more impressive villain than the joker.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
You are avoiding the topic like the immature and manbaby we knew you to be, Thanos is the bigger, badder, and more impressive villain than the joker.

Not when he is walking though the rain...

Crying...mourning.

Rivers of tears flowing freely down his face...

Miserable as he knows he's a scum bag...


Thanos is too emotional to be on Jokers level...

Thanos losses...

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TheLordofMurder

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quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Thanos still cried like a little b!tch over a slu77y little green chick...

Thanos loses... Thanos cared but he still killed her. Joker just ended up being locked up like the but he was. Brolin out acted ledger.

Thanos wins. Universal villain. Joker is a threat to a small shitty town named Gotham.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos cared but he still killed her. Joker just ended up being locked up like the but he was. Brolin out acted ledger.

Thanos wins. Universal villain. Joker is a threat to a small shitty town named Gotham.

Thanos was so upset over Gamora that he staggered around like a drunk hobo...

Shedding tears until he was dehydrated and weakened...

Thanos cried more over Gamora than an emotional woman does when she's on her period...

Happy Dance

quanchi112

TheLordofMurder

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
How does Thanos feel about himself on the inside?

Deep down...deep within...at his very core.

How does Thanos feel about himself Quanchi? He smiled at the end. Mission accomplished. Thanos truly is the best.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
He smiled at the end. Mission accomplished. Thanos truly is the best.

So should I post proof that Thanos considers himself to be a loser and a failure?

;,,,;

quanchi112

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
He smiled at the end. Mission accomplished. Thanos truly is the best.

Is being a depressed, self admitted loser, part of being villainous?

laughing out loud

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Is being a depressed, self admitted loser, part of being villainous?

laughing out loud Character growth. He came out on top of that comic as well. You are just jealous of Thanos and his big bad status.

TheLordofMurder
Sorry, but Thanos loses based on the evidence...

Thanos hates himself...

Is too emotional...

Cries too easily...


Thanos is too whimpy...

Joker triumps over this emotional train wreck...

smile

TheLordofMurder
Thanos:

"I am failure personified."


laughing out loud

Happy Dance

quanchi112

TheLordofMurder
Thanos at his most honest:

quanchi112
He overcame that. Quit trumping uo this thread without the full context.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
He overcame that. Quit trumping uo this thread without the full context.

Why should I have faith in someone who considers himself a loser?

Thanos surrenders to Joker without putting up a fight...

Afterall, Thanos considers himself to be failure personified...

laughing out loud

TheLordofMurder
Look at Thanos Quanchi...

Look at him!!!


He's got his head hung low in defeat...

He admits he's a loser...


Sorry, but Thanos's honesty dooms him here...

A real villain would never concede to such weakness...


Thanos cries in shame and hangs his head low in defeat...

Just as he does here:

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TheLordofMurder

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TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
That still doesn't negate the FACT that Thanos is a self admitted loser...

He loses based on the strength of that alone...

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Facts...

quanchi112

Flyattractor

quanchi112
Same silly nonsense from a lonely Trumper.

quanchi112
Thanos wins.


Get mad.

TheLordofMurder

TheLordofMurder

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
The only one I see that's sad and lonely is Thanos...

Happy Dance He smiled and accomplished his goal. Thanos is the best.

TheLordofMurder
I mean, look at Thanos's face...doesn't he look sad and lonely to you Quanchi?

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I mean, look at Thanos's face...doesn't he look sad and lonely to you Quanchi? He looks like a man who overcame and had emotional growth. Thanos always comes out on top, boy.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
He looks like a man who overcame and had emotional growth. Thanos always comes out on top, boy.

Liar...

Thanos does NOT always come out on top...

Would you like me to list his loses, or will you be a man and take your lie back?

TheLordofMurder
Hey Quanchi, did Thanos come out on top here:

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Liar...

Thanos does NOT always come out on top...

Would you like me to list his loses, or will you be a man and take your lie back? Thanos in the end triumphs. Quit denying reality.

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Hey Quanchi, did Thanos come out on top here: Thanos did come out on top after that. He animated that golem but continue to display your inherent bias against the king of fiction.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos in the end triumphs. Quit denying reality.

The reality is that he lost and did not come out on top in that instance which makes you a filty liar:

TheLordofMurder
More tears from Thanos btw...

This dude just cries at the drop of a hat...

Since when does a so called arch villain cry so much!??

Thanos must be a woman on the inside...

Happy Dance

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos did come out on top after that. He animated that golem but continue to display your inherent bias against the king of fiction.

He still lost...

He was defeated...

And he even cried like a baby...once again.

laughing out loud

TheLordofMurder
More tears from Thanos...

This dude is just a big whimp on the inside lol...

TheLordofMurder
That's 3 instances of him crying like a little girl...

And this is the guy that's supposed to be more villainous than Joker!??

laughing out loud


Thanos is an emotional train wreck and will never be half the villain Joker is...

smile

TheLordofMurder
Even the Cartoon Network has taken note of how much Thanos cries and has made fun of him...

Thanos's crying spells are a national joke:

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quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Even the Cartoon Network has taken note of how much Thanos cries and has made fun of him...

Thanos's crying spells are a national joke: No relevance here. Your attempts have failed like your life.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Even the Cartoon Network has taken note of how much Thanos cries and has made fun of him...

Thanos's crying spells are a national joke:

Yep...

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quanchi112

TheLordofMurder

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
No relevance here. Your attempts have failed like your life.

Its very relevant...

Thanos is a joke...

Thanos is a fraud...

Thanos cries more than a baby that's fresh from the womb...


Here's proof:

TheLordofMurder

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
And he is still a cry baby that cries far too often to be a top villain...

Thanos has emotional problems; he loses to Joker by default in this thread...

Thanos cries more than you do as is evidenced here Quanchi: Killing half the universe is a darker deed than anything done by the joker.

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Its very relevant...

Thanos is a joke...

Thanos is a fraud...

Thanos cries more than a baby that's fresh from the womb...


Here's proof: Thanos has depth and came out on top like I said, ignoramus.

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Atleast Joker isn't a cry baby like someone we know...

laughing out loud

Happy Dance Joker is a Weirdo who scars his own face for attention. Sad guy.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos has depth and came out on top like I said, ignoramus.

Depth my @zz...

That's just an excuse fanboys like yourself use to spin Thanos's negatives into positives...

Thanos is a cry baby...

His rivers of salty tears are legendary...

Even Cartoon Network realizes that Thanos cries too much:

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
Joker is a Weirdo who scars his own face for attention. Sad guy.

Joker's mind is stronger than Thanos's will ever be...

Unlike Thanos, Joker doesn't get all emotional and cry like a little b!tch...

Happy Dance

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Depth my @zz...

That's just an excuse fanboys like yourself use to spin Thanos's negatives into positives...

Thanos is a cry baby...

His rivers of salty tears are legendary...

Even Cartoon Network realizes that Thanos cries too much: Not canon so who cares about your fan fics.

Thanos took out half the universe. smile

quanchi112

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
Not canon so who cares about your fan fics.

Thanos took out half the universe. smile

He also cries like a little punk...

TheLordofMurder

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
He also cries like a little punk... He cries because he is a man who cares but still achieves his goals despite his emotions. He sacrificed everything to achieve his goals. Long live Thanos.

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Yes it is...

Unlike Thanos, Joker doesn't cry over every little thing... Joker instead self harms himself like an emo ****. Who cuts themselves up. Dude is a sad excuse for a person.

Thanos is the guy who imposed his will on the universe.

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
He cries because he is a man who cares but still achieves his goals despite his emotions. He sacrificed everything to achieve his goals. Long live Thanos.

Nope, he cries because he is weak minded and a chump...

Joker would never, ever, cry over the things that Thanos routinely cries about about...


Thanos's mind is weak in area's that Jokers is strong...

Joker wins easily...

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by quanchi112
Joker instead self harms himself like an emo ****. Who cuts themselves up. Dude is a sad excuse for a person.

Thanos is the guy who imposed his will on the universe.

Joker is a baaaad mutha...

Nothing phases Joker...nothing.


There is plenty that phases Thanos however; his tears are clear evidence of this...

smile

Flyattractor
Originally posted by quanchi112
Joker instead self harms himself like an emo ****. Who cuts themselves up. Dude is a sad excuse for a person.

Thanos is the guy who imposed his will on the universe.

Only because he had a magic MacGuffin Oven Mitt.

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quanchi112
Originally posted by Flyattractor
Only because he had a magic MacGuffin Oven Mitt. He faced enemies who had magic weapons and took them. No one else ever had two. That shows you how hard this is. Thanos achieved his goal. Joker can not even round up a weak Batman.

TheLordofMurder
Careful what you say about Thanos...

The weak minded, [email protected] might hear it and break down into tears...

laughing out loud

TheLordofMurder

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Careful what you say about Thanos...

The weak minded, [email protected] might hear it and break down into tears...

laughing out loud Hes fine he can kill his own daughter and still achieve his goals. Joker now he might self harm like the emo ***** he is.

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Flyattractor
Thanos couldn't do it on his own. He needed a handful of magic rocks.

Josh_Alexander
Thanos is the better, bigger villain.

Joker is the most appealing, genuine villain.

To compare them is stupid.

Flyattractor
That is all just Personal Speculation.

And this is the Interwebs. Of COURSE it is STUPID!!!

quanchi112

TheLordofMurder
Thanos is a heartless whimp...

He has no problem begging superior opponents to spare his life...

Look at this coward on his knees begging:

TheLordofMurder
To recap, Thanos:

1) is a cry baby...
2) is not above begging someone to spare his life...


Add that up and Thanos is a ho3...

He's no where near Joker as a villain as Thanos is an emotional wreck and a heartless coward...


He's even recognized nationally as emotional cry baby:

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