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No. They're the only ones who are creative with the idea behind their consoles. We need them for innovation's sake if nothing more.

Originally posted by BackFire
No. They're the only ones who are creative with the idea behind their consoles. We need them for innovation's sake if nothing more. I agree 100%

Just wanted to see what others thought.

I don't know if Nintendo should stop making consoles, but Shigeru Miyamoto should definitely kill himself.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I don't know if Nintendo should stop making consoles, but Shigeru Miyamoto should definitely kill himself. Whoa man, girl, whatever.

You better hope Shiggy doesn't rain down unholy judgement on you.

But yeah Koizumi seems to be doing a much better job.

You love Nintendo, Quan.

Nintendo should just stop. They haven't been relevent since the 1990's, and live off price gouging suckers.

Originally posted by cdtm
Nintendo should just stop. They haven't been relevent since the 1990's, and live off price gouging suckers.

http://geekmelee.com/2017/06/nintendo-finally-has-good-e3-reggie-fils-aime-loses-mind-yells-breaks-shit-is-incomprehensible-and-rightly-so/

Originally posted by cdtm
Nintendo should just stop. They haven't been relevent since the 1990's, and live off price gouging suckers.

And Nostalgia.

Nintendo should stop making gimmicks.

Literally, the only Switch original I really want to play is Mario Odyssey.

90% of the rest of the Switch lineup? Garbage.

Originally posted by Impediment
Nintendo should stop making gimmicks.

Literally, the only Switch original I really want to play is Mario Odyssey.

90% of the rest of the Switch lineup? Garbage. Erm... They're all legitimately awesome games in their own right.

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Also, I've never had more fun with a shooter then I have with Splatoon, and I've played a lot, all the Crysis games, KillZone, hell it may even rival Halo in terms of pure fun factor.

ARMS is a legitimately good fighting game, and they added more then just fighting, it's packed with modes.

Breath of the Wild is one of the best open-world experiences ever, and quite possibly the best LoZ game of all time, I had way more fun with it then I ever did with Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Skyward Sword, or even Link to the Past. It is much better then Skyrim could ever dream of being, imo. I promise you on EVERYthing I love, the hype is deserved, every single tiny last bit of it.

Kirby: Star Allies... could've been better, it's not terrible, it's.. good, just not even close to great.

Xenoblade Chronicles 2, something fans have been waiting for, for years finally came out.

Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle... sounds stupid, it's an awesome turn-based tactical RPG, the weapons, the skill tree, the combat, I was playing it all day yesterday and could not stop.

AND THE COUCH CO-OP, MY GOD. If you like having friends over and playing games with them, this is the console to buy, 2 controllers right off the bat, and then you can buy 2 more controllers that come in a single pack for $50-$60.

Then, the ports... every Nintendo port, has been enhanced from the original version in some way, every single port I've seen so far has had extra content that wasn't available on the original version for the Wii U.

Donkey Kong: Tropical Freeze, has a new mode with a new character, Pokken Tourament DX adds new Pokemon that weren't available in the original game, Captain Toad has new Mario Odyssey-themed levels.

Then, the future, Metroid Prime 4, Yoshi, Couch Co-Op Pokemon, 2 of them, and they're compatible with Pokemon Go, Octopath Traveler, then there's the future of all new games getting released on the Switch.

Elder Scrolls VI, DOOM: Eternal, so much potential.

Plus, yeah, they could have added features, but eh, I like my gaming systems to be gaming systems. I always end up getting distracted due to my ADHD making me think of a video I wanna watch, or something, but on the switch I don't have that distraction, and it lets me concentrate on something I really love, gaming.

I know I did a shitty job convincing you, but trust me when I say that the switch library is excellent right now, not a single game has bored me.

I wish they did. BotW and SMO were both awesome games that were held back by their hardware limitations. These games would have been even better if they were released on PS4, Xbone, and PC.

Originally posted by ares834
I wish they did. BotW and SMO were both awesome games that were held back by their hardware limitations. These games would have been even better if they were released on PS4, Xbone, and PC. The point behind the switch is the portability, which is honestly what I love about it.

Like, me personally, I hate gaming on a TV, I wish every single game system could be like the switch, every single one.

I am all about convenience and if I'm tired or just wanna be lazy, I can be lazy.

I have bad eyesight and my glasses are broken.

Plus, Skyrim on the go? Why the hell... would I EVER want to play it on PS4 again?

I don't see the point in playing docked, unless you're a serious stickler for having it on a big screen with a huge TV, and cool, if thats your thing, do that.

But a lot of people don't have time to sit down and play games, or maybe you're like me, where you just plain don't FEEL like getting up, switching a game every other hour, taking it out, putting it back in the case. For someone like me who is extremely lazy, its just extra time that could be spent already playing a game.

Plus it's always right there, can you take your PS4 to work and play it on your break? No.

You play the Switch because you have bad eyesight and your glasses are broken?

Well....you could just get new glasses.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
The point behind the switch is the portability, which is honestly what I love about it.

Sure. And I hate that. I've used my Swith portably a handful of times at most.

Honestly, I'm happy enough pulling out an tablet for portal gaming. Candy crush, baby.

Go ahead, call me a casual.

Originally posted by ares834
Sure. And I hate that. I've used my Swith portably a handful of times at most. Well, there's the difference.

Majority of people are about convenience, and sometimes they are too busy.

Like if they're working on something, they could be on their computer and playing their switch at the same time.

If they're on their computer and want to play a game then they should do so on the infinitely better device that is their computer.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
If they're on their computer and want to play a game then they should do so on the infinitely better device that is their computer. What if they're at work? "Hurr-durr well they shouldn't be thinking of gaming at work".

I've heard people make that excuse many times and... honestly, most people don't wanna work or even think about work, and tbh I don't feel like bringing my 10-15lb. gaming laptop with me on a train, when I could just as easily bring the much smaller, lighter, and more accessible switch.

Plus, this part of the argument is less convincing but, there've been times where I'd be trying to write something, and suddenly I'll get bored and wanna play something, so I boot up something on my computer... but then I get really into it and then forget to tab back out to finish writing, next thing I know, it's 4 hours later and I still haven't finished what I wrote cause I was too into the game to notice, you could technically make that argument for ANY handheld, but the switch being the modern Nintendo home console/hybrid makes it fit more into this category... Either way, gaming on a handheld (particularly the switch) is better for when you're working, because all you need to do, is look up, and suddenly remember "wow, I need to finish this, I'll write this paragraph and then go finish this shrine".

Plus, tabbing out then tabbing in every 20 minutes is, idk... tedious and annoying, it just has something going for it that just makes it rather annoying to keep doing, whereas the switch is always RIGHT there.

Honestly I've always loved portables more though.

I played my PSP more then my PS3 (For a time), and I play my Vita WAY more then I play my PS4. I just want every huge game ported to the switch, I have GTA V on my PS4 but I just can't push myself to replay it because I know I'm not gonna have time for it.

Just the fact that I can play it wherever, just makes it better for me, personally, also the fact that it's one of the best, if not the best console ever released by Nintendo, the fact that it's making history by being the first true hybrid, and the fact that it'll be one of the best handhelds ever.

Now, if PS4 and Xbox One did this as well, I'd wholly welcome it. I think Sony is done with handhelds after the Vita sold horribly, Xbox has never made (and may never make) a handheld, though I can be fairly sure that tons of people would be down for an Xbox handheld.

But if you can't see the appeal of certain games, thats cool, but at least try to accept that other people can, I'm not sure why people assume whenever they don't like a game, they automatically can't see the appeal at all, and think everyone's crazy for it.

Yeah, I have games on my PS4 that I'd love to play... but, I just simply do not feel like getting up and switching the discs out, playing for 20 minutes, then maybe getting bored, because thats usually what I do with my consoles.

I'll sit and play for a bit, then I get bored, and wanna do something else, I don't play video games for a long period of time, I play them in short bursts.

In the end, it doesn't matter.

If you handheld gaming, play on the Switch. If you want high end graphics, play on Xbox One X. If you want middle of the road gaming, get a PS4 Pro/regular or an Xbox One S.

Play on PC if you want to play PC specific games or third party ports. It's all good.

And if you want to play something that's good, hook up your PS2. http://images.killermovies.com/forums/moresmilies/velho.gif

Originally posted by Jmanghan
What if they're at work? "Hurr-durr well they shouldn't be thinking of gaming at work".

Bingo.



...and?

Originally posted by BackFire
No. They're the only ones who are creative with the idea behind their consoles. We need them for innovation's sake if nothing more.
Pretty much this. It's vexing though when you occasionally get abysmal failures like the Wii U, but when they do well, they do well.

Originally posted by Smasandian
In the end, it doesn't matter.

If you handheld gaming, play on the Switch. If you want high end graphics, play on Xbox One X. If you want middle of the road gaming, get a PS4 Pro/regular or an Xbox One S.

Play on PC if you want to play PC specific games or third party ports. It's all good.

Originally posted by Smasandian
In the end, it doesn't matter.

If you handheld gaming, play on the Switch. If you want high end graphics, play on Xbox One X. If you want middle of the road gaming, get a PS4 Pro/regular or an Xbox One S.

Play on PC if you want to play PC specific games or third party ports. It's all good.

So tempted to troll you right now, but i'll desist.

Originally posted by Kazenji
And Nostalgia.

https://i.imgur.com/Xj31jyV.jpg

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Bingo.



...and? what if you're at a job where you have a lot of freedom? the more accessible choice at the end of the day is always gonna be the switch.

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For me as a PC gamer, Nintendo consoles are the only ones I even consider buying.
There is zero reason for me to buy an Xbox or Playstation. Most of the types of games I enjoy that sort of interest me on xbox or playstation I can get better versions of them on PC. With better online(+ its free), better patches, mods, better controls, graphics, bigger libraries of games, etc.

Nintendo consoles give me something different I cant get on PC. So a PC + Nintendo console is the best combo.

No need to buy a console that is basically an under-powered jr. PC.

Originally posted by Inhuman

No need to buy a console that is basically an under-powered jr. PC.

This is always the argument from PC people. I'm not a graphics whore, it barey looks any different to me. Plus, I have no interest in trying to keep some bullshit PC up to date, and having to worry about whether or not it will have the power to play the game I want. I want to put the game in the machine and go.

There's a huge reason to get a console; it's much less of a hassle.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
This is always the argument from PC people. I'm not a graphics whore, it barey looks any different to me. Plus, I have no interest in trying to keep some bullshit PC up to date, and having to worry about whether or not it will have the power to play the game I want. I want to put the game in the machine and go.

There's a huge reason to get a console; it's much less of a hassle.

Let me break it down.

- Upgrading misconception. assuming most have a decent PC already. All that needs upgrading is to get a current top graphics card, current CPU (i5,i7), and a current motherboard. Maybe ram as well if yours is super old.
This is a one time expense because that will last you at MINIMUM two Sony/M$ console generations (if not more). So you wont have to upgrade again for many years. When these components get a bit outdated all that happens is that you wont be able to run games at ULTRA high anymore, but setting everything to medium still looks better than consoles or the same. That way, getting back to your complaint, you wont have to worry what games are compatible , because ALL games will be compatible.
With consoles you have to keep buying the new console or revision every few years.

- GAMES. Console games will always cost more because M$ and Sony have to get a cut. So all new games will be $60-$70 and the price wont go down easy.
PC games will be expensive the first week or twothey are released then they do down in price or have sales that go down sometimes 50% or more. PC games will always be cheaper. Also bigger libraries. Steam, Origin, Battle.net, Epic, etc, thousands of games available. And new ones are released all the time.

- Online. Free. You pay the ISP and thats it. No additional fee just to play the games online. Online and social tools are also miles ahead of consoles.

- Controls. PC controls are always going to be better. You can even use multiple types of controllers including Xbox and Playstation controllers on PC. And a bunch of other obscure controller types like flight controllers, guns, etc.
While I do agree that some games are played better with a controller, Most are controlled better with a mouse and keyboard. Especially games like FPS's or 3rd person adventure games, etc. Playing those games on a controller is like tying sand bags on your legs while running a race.

In the long run its more expensive to own consoles (even though it doesn't seem that way to most), buy all their overpriced games (and your selection is limited to your specific console), buy all their over priced accessories, pay to play online (besides your IPS as well), etc. Most are so used to playing consoles all their lives that anything else seems outrageous.

Lastly the day the Playstation 5 or Next Xbox is released in the future it will already be outdated the day they hit the market.

Anyhow that is why PC + Nintendo combo is best

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
This is always the argument from PC people. I'm not a graphics whore, it barey looks any different to me. Plus, I have no interest in trying to keep some bullshit PC up to date, and having to worry about whether or not it will have the power to play the game I want. I want to put the game in the machine and go.

There's a huge reason to get a console; it's much less of a hassle.

Forgot to add in the beginning of my previous post....

"Its not just about graphics. To me that inst that important. The following things are though"
Let me break it down.....

I have a laptop with integrated video, barely enough ram, and an aging processor. It's in no way meant for gaming.

I've done nothing but game on it lately. .

Originally posted by Inhuman
Let me break it down.

- Upgrading misconception. assuming most have a decent PC already. All that needs upgrading is to get a current top graphics card, current CPU (i5,i7), and a current motherboard. Maybe ram as well if yours is super old.
This is a one time expense because that will last you at MINIMUM two Sony/M$ console generations (if not more). So you wont have to upgrade again for many years. When these components get a bit outdated all that happens is that you wont be able to run games at ULTRA high anymore, but setting everything to medium still looks better than consoles or the same. That way, getting back to your complaint, you wont have to worry what games are compatible , because ALL games will be compatible.
With consoles you have to keep buying the new console or revision every few years.

- GAMES. Console games will always cost more because M$ and Sony have to get a cut. So all new games will be $60-$70 and the price wont go down easy.
PC games will be expensive the first week or twothey are released then they do down in price or have sales that go down sometimes 50% or more. PC games will always be cheaper. Also bigger libraries. Steam, Origin, Battle.net, Epic, etc, thousands of games available. And new ones are released all the time.

- Online. Free. You pay the ISP and thats it. No additional fee just to play the games online. Online and social tools are also miles ahead of consoles.

- Controls. PC controls are always going to be better. You can even use multiple types of controllers including Xbox and Playstation controllers on PC. And a bunch of other obscure controller types like flight controllers, guns, etc.
While I do agree that some games are played better with a controller, Most are controlled better with a mouse and keyboard. Especially games like FPS's or 3rd person adventure games, etc. Playing those games on a controller is like tying sand bags on your legs while running a race.

In the long run its more expensive to own consoles (even though it doesn't seem that way to most), buy all their overpriced games (and your selection is limited to your specific console), buy all their over priced accessories, pay to play online (besides your IPS as well), etc. Most are so used to playing consoles all their lives that anything else seems outrageous.

Lastly the day the Playstation 5 or Next Xbox is released in the future it will already be outdated the day they hit the market.

Anyhow that is why PC + Nintendo combo is best

"Better" is relative. No one sets up a fighting game tournament using a pc port. Compared to a standardized console, setting one up would be a nightmare.

Originally posted by cdtm
"Better" is relative. No one sets up a fighting game tournament using a pc port. Compared to a standardized console, setting one up would be a nightmare.

I do agree that it can be argued that there are very few things that consoles could do better like what you described. Also Fighting games, Sports games, party games, racing games (maybe). Everything else just falls short to PC gaming.
And everyone has noticed that Sony or M$ dont even innovate anymore they just release more powerful versions of their previous console. All they are now a days (even the upcoming ones) are Jr. PC's. There is only so many times they can try to "WOW" console people by showing them that the graphics of the new gen console are 15% better. Now with better lighting, better water effects ,... yawn.

Anyhow , back to topic . This is why i think Nintendo should continue to make consoles. Their consoles compliment PC gamers the best. IMO. They actually try to innovate and change things up (even if they are not always successful). Instead of just just more powerful hardware over and over and over and thats it.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Let me break it down.

- Upgrading misconception. assuming most have a decent PC already. All that needs upgrading is to get a current top graphics card, current CPU (i5,i7), and a current motherboard. Maybe ram as well if yours is super old.
This is a one time expense because that will last you at MINIMUM two Sony/M$ console generations (if not more). So you wont have to upgrade again for many years. When these components get a bit outdated all that happens is that you wont be able to run games at ULTRA high anymore, but setting everything to medium still looks better than consoles or the same. That way, getting back to your complaint, you wont have to worry what games are compatible , because ALL games will be compatible.
With consoles you have to keep buying the new console or revision every few years.

- GAMES. Console games will always cost more because M$ and Sony have to get a cut. So all new games will be $60-$70 and the price wont go down easy.
PC games will be expensive the first week or twothey are released then they do down in price or have sales that go down sometimes 50% or more. PC games will always be cheaper. Also bigger libraries. Steam, Origin, Battle.net, Epic, etc, thousands of games available. And new ones are released all the time.

- Online. Free. You pay the ISP and thats it. No additional fee just to play the games online. Online and social tools are also miles ahead of consoles.

- Controls. PC controls are always going to be better. You can even use multiple types of controllers including Xbox and Playstation controllers on PC. And a bunch of other obscure controller types like flight controllers, guns, etc.
While I do agree that some games are played better with a controller, Most are controlled better with a mouse and keyboard. Especially games like FPS's or 3rd person adventure games, etc. Playing those games on a controller is like tying sand bags on your legs while running a race.

In the long run its more expensive to own consoles (even though it doesn't seem that way to most), buy all their overpriced games (and your selection is limited to your specific console), buy all their over priced accessories, pay to play online (besides your IPS as well), etc. Most are so used to playing consoles all their lives that anything else seems outrageous.

Lastly the day the Playstation 5 or Next Xbox is released in the future it will already be outdated the day they hit the market.

Anyhow that is why PC + Nintendo combo is best

I'll admit I definitely didn't read all that, but there's absolutely no way you can have the same PC gear for two console generations. PS3 launched in 2005, ffs. That's pure insanity.

Originally posted by Inhuman
For me as a PC gamer, Nintendo consoles are the only ones I even consider buying.
There is zero reason for me to buy an Xbox or Playstation. Most of the types of games I enjoy that sort of interest me on xbox or playstation I can get better versions of them on PC. With better online(+ its free), better patches, mods, better controls, graphics, bigger libraries of games, etc.

Nintendo consoles give me something different I cant get on PC. So a PC + Nintendo console is the best combo.

No need to buy a console that is basically an under-powered jr. PC.

Personally I think Playstation now has better exclusives than Nintendo.

Also, yeah, keeping the same PC for two console generations isn't going to work unless you like playing at lower than the minimum recommendations and games running at like 5 fps. You can get by with a PC for maybe 7 years these days. But you'll need to upgrade the graphics card after a few years for sure, at the very least. It also depends on when you build your computer. This computer I'm on right now I built in 2013 and then upgraded the graphics card in 2016 and it still runs everything pretty well. Should be able to use it another year or two before really needing to upgrade.

did you guys watch the video to dissect it? :P

The way I see it, would it be awesome to have BoTW, up in 4K, 60FPS, and pushed to its limits? Hell yes.

On the switch it was pushed so damn hard to get where it even was, despite the huge graphical capability upgrade from the Wii U to the Switch, in some areas it still chugs, hard, especially in the Lost Woods.

Mat makes good points, like how Nintendo saw a huge increase in sales upon announcing they were bringing games to the mobile market, how hard it is to stay afloat what with so many games coming to smartphones and being made for smartphones. Some of which appeal to even hardcore gamers.

All of this is huge... except, I don't think Nintendo's aim is ENTIRELY sales. They WANT to stay in the console market because they believe the world wants them, and they're right. The creativity and innovation that goes into Nintendo's consoles has been staggering, and I believe thats why the focus doesn't go into having the best graphics, because it goes into literally every single other thing. JUST LOOK at what the Joy-Cons can do, motion controls, rumble, singular controllers, and they have so many more functions beyond that, and they're so damn tiny. On top of Amiibo's starting to be hard to find, and all the peripherals and frequent releases, and being the biggest first-party developer out there, with the most first-party games, it's just a lot.

However, Nintendo would find so much more success and money if they did go into third-party developing for all consoles and bowed out of the console market, they've changed so much about how we play games and imo, if this was their last console, I'd be sad and happy, but I'd still say, they've done enough, and if they ever did leave, it'd be of their own accord, not because they were forced to, like Sega.

I like the direction MS is taking with their ecosystem.

- pushing Game Pass significantly
- will probably the be the leading contender for streaming based on their vast enterprise ecosystem and cloud infrastructure.
- don't really give a shit if you play on the PC, Xbox, any device that can stream.
- making significant contributions to their software with 7 new developing studios.

As for Nintendo, they got their niche and it will continue to be good for years to come unless people get sick of Mario, Zelda and Pokemon.

And for Sony, they got first party for now but lets see what happens with Xbox over the next few years. Also, I will be very interested in seeing if old dick Sony comes back and tries to be cocky as shit again. I don't think Sony can do another PS4 and be as successful.

Originally posted by Smasandian
I like the direction MS is taking with their ecosystem.

- pushing Game Pass significantly
- will probably the be the leading contender for streaming based on their vast enterprise ecosystem and cloud infrastructure.
- don't really give a shit if you play on the PC, Xbox, any device that can stream.
- making significant contributions to their software with 7 new developing studios.

As for Nintendo, they got their niche and it will continue to be good for years to come unless people get sick of Mario, Zelda and Pokemon.

And for Sony, they got first party for now but lets see what happens with Xbox over the next few years. Also, I will be very interested in seeing if old dick Sony comes back and tries to be cocky as shit again. I don't think Sony can do another PS4 and be as successful. Sick of Zelda? Sure.

Sick of Mario? Idk man, people love Mario so much, and he's pretty much the face of gaming.

Originally posted by Smasandian
I like the direction MS is taking with their ecosystem.

- pushing Game Pass significantly
- will probably the be the leading contender for streaming based on their vast enterprise ecosystem and cloud infrastructure.
- don't really give a shit if you play on the PC, Xbox, any device that can stream.
- making significant contributions to their software with 7 new developing studios.

As for Nintendo, they got their niche and it will continue to be good for years to come unless people get sick of Mario, Zelda and Pokemon.

And for Sony, they got first party for now but lets see what happens with Xbox over the next few years. Also, I will be very interested in seeing if old dick Sony comes back and tries to be cocky as shit again. I don't think Sony can do another PS4 and be as successful.

Yeah I really love a lot of what MS is doing lately. Their next console, as long as they don't **** up like they did with the initial announcement/release of the One should be a big hit. The gamepass thing is an awesome concept and being able to play MS esclusives on the PC or the console via a single purchase is really great. They should be a force to be reckoned with in the future.

I trust Phil Spencer to make valid choices when it comes to the next console.

I think the biggest thing MS can do is announce a major publisher like Ubisoft/EA/Bethesda releaseing new titles day one on the Game Pass. If they can get one of those, it's a coup and can be a huge thing.

The original Xbox One announcement was disastrous but they were ahead of the curve regarding download titles and such. With music streaming, Netflix being big business, I cannot see the Game Pass being pushed away by a younger generation.

Especially if they get a third party publisher to release day one on Game Pass for new titles.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Sick of Zelda? Sure.

Sick of Mario? Idk man, people love Mario so much, and he's pretty much the face of gaming.

Most likely won't happen but there systems do well because of those characters. If people get bored....it might be a terrible for Nintendo.

Will it happen? Probably not. Disney has been living the dream with the cast of characters they have created.

Originally posted by Smasandian
I trust Phil Spencer to make valid choices when it comes to the next console.

I think the biggest thing MS can do is announce a major publisher like Ubisoft/EA/Bethesda releaseing new titles day one on the Game Pass. If they can get one of those, it's a coup and can be a huge thing.

The original Xbox One announcement was disastrous but they were ahead of the curve regarding download titles and such. With music streaming, Netflix being big business, I cannot see the Game Pass being pushed away by a younger generation.

Especially if they get a third party publisher to release day one on Game Pass for new titles.

There are rumors even that MS may buy EA and make some of their games exclusives. I hope this doesn't happen, but it's a possibility.

Originally posted by Smasandian
Most likely won't happen but there systems do well because of those characters. If people get bored....it might be a terrible for Nintendo.


Every system has characters and franchises the use over and over and over again. And they will keep milking these franchises till people get bored of them like you said. people just seem to think that Nintendo is the only one recycling and using the same franchises.

- Grand theft auto
- Red Dead
- Madden
- God if war
- Halo
- call of duty
- battlefield
- FIFA
- Uncharted
- Kingdom hearts
- Metal Gear
- Resident Evil
- Fallout
- Gears of War
- Tom Clancy games
- Final Fantasy
- Tomb Raider
- Forza Motorsport
- Monster Hunter
- etc
All these are being used over and over and over again by Sony and M$.

Anyhow Nintendo Systems are not perfect and they always have their issues that piss me off. If I didn't game on a PC that shits on consoles, these issues will be huge and I probably wouldn't even game on a Nintendo system. I would probably game on a PlayStation or Xbox.
Another thing is profit. Last I read a few years back Nintendo was making the biggest profit off of console and game sales over the other two companies. M$ was losing money for every console sold a few years back. Dont know if its still that way. Sony's game division was also hurting. These 2 companies are huge and the gaming divisions are just a small part of it. Even though they might not make as much profit as they would like , the rest of the company makes up for loses.

Difference is, Nintendo's been doing this since 1986.

Originally posted by cdtm
Difference is, Nintendo's been doing this since 1986.

I bet Sony and M$ will be doing it after 32 years (and beyond) as well with most of the franchises i posted. There are certainly heading that way in full force yet most dont seem to notice it.
I dont care as long as the games are good and worth the sequels. The finger pointing to make it seem just Nintendo is doing it is dumb though.

Gameboy Advance SP was the best.

Still own one. Still works.

I liked my monochrome. Also still works.

The snap on light had a cozyness, like reading a book by flashlight.

Originally posted by BackFire
There are rumors even that MS may buy EA and make some of their games exclusives. I hope this doesn't happen, but it's a possibility.

There was rumours for basically any company.

The most intriguing for MS (and probably not for gamers) was Valve. MS is pushing hard on PC gaming and having the number 1 store on the PC Market would be a huge get. However, if this would ever happen, it might be very good for gamers in the sense that Portal 3, Left 4 Dead 3 and Half Life 3 would be in production....and if they keep the same talent, might be very very good.

Would cost a ton....so I don't think any of these major publishers would be picked up. Personally, they will probably poach dev companies who are creating new/interesting games but are basically living paycheck by paycheck.

That's why they could pick Ninja Theory, Obsidian and others because those companies would fail if they produced one stinker.

As long as MS leaves these companies to do things themselves but just flash the cash, it could work out for gamers. If they do what they did 15 years ago and try to force MS policies/ethos into the structure, it could end ugly. I'm assuming they have learned their lesson.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Every system has characters and franchises the use over and over and over again. And they will keep milking these franchises till people get bored of them like you said. people just seem to think that Nintendo is the only one recycling and using the same franchises.

- Grand theft auto
- Red Dead
- Madden
- God if war
- Halo
- call of duty
- battlefield
- FIFA
- Uncharted
- Kingdom hearts
- Metal Gear
- Resident Evil
- Fallout
- Gears of War
- Tom Clancy games
- Final Fantasy
- Tomb Raider
- Forza Motorsport
- Monster Hunter
- etc
All these are being used over and over and over again by Sony and M$.

Anyhow Nintendo Systems are not perfect and they always have their issues that piss me off. If I didn't game on a PC that shits on consoles, these issues will be huge and I probably wouldn't even game on a Nintendo system. I would probably game on a PlayStation or Xbox.
Another thing is profit. Last I read a few years back Nintendo was making the biggest profit off of console and game sales over the other two companies. M$ was losing money for every console sold a few years back. Dont know if its still that way. Sony's game division was also hurting. These 2 companies are huge and the gaming divisions are just a small part of it. Even though they might not make as much profit as they would like , the rest of the company makes up for loses.


First, most of the games you are talking about are not owned by Microsoft and Sony so that point is invalid. Microsoft and Sony are not "recycling" anything aside for the franchise they have and the argument could be made that Nintendo has recycled their characters a lot more than Sony/MS. It's not just their main titles (Breath of the Wild for example) but how every other first party title has them in it. We have Mario Tennis, Mario XCOM, Odyssey, Super Mario Kart, Mario Party, Smash Bros...and that's just two years.

Second, that wasn't my point. The point was Nintendo leaves/dies on their major franchises. People pick up Nintendo products because of their beloved characters. And they produce great games (I think overrated but that's just my opinion). If people got bored (which will probably not happen), their systems make take a huge hit.

Third, losing money on every console sold has been a staple for consoles for generations. The money was in games and licensing fees. I don't believe thats the case anymore but in the end, MS is the big dog. They have the most diverse company out of the three systems and I believe are the most valuable company in the world at this moment...I might be wrong....but basically, MS can take hits in the their gaming division while Sony/Nintendo cannot.

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The thing with the switch was it was a combo of GameCube, Wii and Wii u. Controller wise.

Yet they knew they always did more successfully with their handhelds.

I guess if I got a switch and played motion controls portably like on a train or an aeroplane, I'd be really happy. Imagine playing prime 4 on the go with the motion controls. Or taking it to a party and play just dance or wario ware with friends. Those were the kind of games I loved about the Wii.

I'm on the oppposite side of that....If Metroid Prime 4 does get released, I rather play at home on a TV than using it as a handheld.

Strangely enough, I would probably prefer the titles (non-AAA titles) that are being released on Game Pass every month for handheld gaming than stuff that Nintendo produces.

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As far as the Switch goes, if anything I'm mostly worried about the drift, it even happens with the pro controllers.

Like I'm sure SOMEONE here breaks out their NES or SNES to play games, even if it's like once a year, with the Switch if you break it out like that, the drift will get worse and worse.

It's not overblown either, the problem is that the hardware is damaging itself every time you turn in games using the analog stick. There have been tons of "fixes", but it doesn't seem to have legitimately helped.

The problem is that when Nintendo stops offering those free repairs, it's gonna suck down the line in like 10 years from now when you try and play your switch but you can't actually play it because of a stupid hardware issue.