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Just regular god, Zamasu, with his immortality.

Who wins?

Which, Boo and which Zamasu(Manga or Anime)

Wait, is this immortal Zamasu(as in the one who appeared in Future Trunks' timeline and fought alongside Black)..? If so, he'd shitstomp Boo.

Yeah, that Zamasu.

Didn't Trunks keep up with him at only an equivilent to SSJ3?

Depends which Boo you're using. I assumed Fat Boo(ala DBS), but did you have another version in mind?

Originally posted by cdtm
Yeah, that Zamasu.

Didn't Trunks keep up with him at only an equivilent to SSJ3?

Trunks was stronger than him at SS3 equivalent, according to Goku. I put my money on Buu, by the way; immortality does you no good when you're turned into chocolate and eaten.

Originally posted by Galan007
Depends which Boo you're using. I assumed Fat Boo(ala DBS), but did you have another version in mind?

Super Buu or original.

Anime Zamasu beats all Buus together.

Manga Zamasu was weaker than SS2 Trunks who was around SS3 Goku level. Goku at that point in time should massacre any Buu though.

Yeah, well, SSJ2 Vegeta stomped SSJ2 Black, who consistently defeated (an admittedly exhausted and malnourished) SSJ2 Trunks in base. I think it's a fair assumption that Trunks's and Goku's dick measuring scene was meant to compare Trunks to Z-era Goku.

Anime Zamasu destroys any Buu.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Manga Zamasu was weaker than SS2 Trunks who was around SS3 Goku level. Goku at that point in time should massacre any Buu though.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Yeah, well, SSJ2 Vegeta stomped SSJ2 Black, who consistently defeated (an admittedly exhausted and malnourished) SSJ2 Trunks in base. I think it's a fair assumption that Trunks's and Goku's dick measuring scene was meant to compare Trunks to Z-era Goku. This.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Yeah, well, SSJ2 Vegeta stomped SSJ2 Black, who consistently defeated (an admittedly exhausted and malnourished) SSJ2 Trunks in base. I think it's a fair assumption that Trunks's and Goku's dick measuring scene was meant to compare Trunks to Z-era Goku. Why would that make sense though, or the most amount of sense? Goku was holding back so much power he reverted to a far weaker state, and had to use God Ki anyway? Goku never grew in power in normal forms?

A possible explanation is the God Ki upped Black's base form. He also did decent against SS2 Vegeta the short time he fought in Base. We either shift everything we know about Goku or we change our expectations of this new character in some strange amalgamation that gets a british accent and Pink hair when he goes God form.

I don't think Goku "had to" use SSG against Trunks. After all, Vegeta stated that Trunks' power had increased "nearly the same amount as Kakarot has in SSJ3" -- implying that Trunks was still marginally weaker than SSJ3 Goku.

The implication is that Goku only used SSG to show off his power. Hence Whis calling him "immature as ever" in the following panel. /shrug

Then he'd just have to max out his powers in SS3 to put Trunks down instead of going God... if he was lowering himself down to Buu level for whatever reason even though he turned SS3 in the first place.

Plus Vegeta was surprised at how close Trunks was as well. Not at him being near Buu level Goku, but at him being nearly powering up the same amount as SS3 did over SS2. It really makes no sense that Goku was operating at such lesser levels. Especially since like you said, Goku was showing off and could have shown the full power of SS3 instead of "supressing his powers down to only Buu levels".

I think the intent of the scene was that Goku just wanted to show off his power, like a cocky douche -- he didn't want to make a fight out of it. IOW, he went SSG with the sole intent of one-shotting Trunks.

That's why Vegeta called him a "dirty bastard", and why Whis called him "immature".

SS3 at that time should have been able to ass rape SS3 Buu Goku though.
Him showing off his power goes against the theory of him supressing himself back to Buu levels as well.

It just doesn't add up.

Tbf, the power of Goku's 'non-God' forms is one of the most wildly inconsistent plot-points in DBS.

Sometimes his regular forms are depicted FAR more powerful than they previously were. Sometimes they don't seem to be depicted as any more powerful than normal... Which is what seemed to be the case when he fought Trunks. /shrug

His base form is the biggest issue. His SS forms aren't used enough to be as bad imo.

The Black series as a whole was a mess from both mediums. Anime was more fun though with how stupid it was imo. Manga almost caught up with the clones.

I don't think there are that many new issues with the base form that weren't already present in Z, such as characters in base getting pounded by transformed characters with durability that is supposedly 1/400th of their maximum, but still surviving.

My impression from the manga wasn't really that Black was more powerful than SSJ2 Trunks in base, but rather that he's more skilled, and that Trunks was far from being in top form.

In the manga didn't Trunks say something like "even with this power I was still nothing to Goku Black"..?

Well I mean, Trunks knew that Black could use the Super Saiyan transformations. What I said earlier doesn't change the fact that Black was winning with strength to spare.

I don't think Trunks was considering the power of Black's SSJ transformations there, tbh. He was likely referencing his fight with Black that took place just before he fled back in time to recruit Goku and Vegeta -- wherein base Black stomped him without much effort at all:
https://i.imgur.com/6qC2k31.png
https://i.imgur.com/3jpODzm.png
https://i.imgur.com/69FdEzU.png
https://i.imgur.com/eq6NXwT.png
https://i.imgur.com/hiCd8zC.png
https://i.imgur.com/SUJDKWt.png
https://i.imgur.com/mOGeAlO.png
https://i.imgur.com/jJOld0y.png
https://i.imgur.com/AKhR4Id.png
https://i.imgur.com/kUxwh0v.png


*Mind you, later in the same issue is when Trunks sparred with Goku, and made this comment about Black's power:
https://i.imgur.com/m2F8qxS.png


srug