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Regardless of my stance on many of JPs teachings, I'll be the first to admit that some Leftists have a history of making claims about Jordan Peterson that are often unfounded, lack context or are just lame excuses for "gotcha" stuff.

But this is obviously a poor excuse on Peterson's part to make up for the fact that he was rather lackluster in his discussion with Harris. Thoughts? Is it truly possible to go without sleep for 25 days because of apple cider and a sense of doom?

Is Peterson actually claiming that he went 25days sans sleep? Lolz.

Did Joe Rogan suck his dick during the interview as usual?

How will the Petersonites take this.

Personally, I just want context. A lot of Peterson-related stuff usually is.

Do we really need yet another thread on this man?

Haven't seen any of them myself.

Makes sense he'd be pretty popular, with all the Youtube links from IDWers and that really cool Irish guy, Computingforever.

There are quite a few on him here already. I'll leave this be, but maybe in the future we should consider an all purpose thread for this guy so we don't need a new one everytime he says something that someone doesn't like.

The sulfides!

https://i.gifer.com/LRgt.gif

Originally posted by MythLord
Personally, I just want context. A lot of Peterson-related stuff usually is.
Usually is posted without context. FFS, my cider-filled brain gets the best of me again!

Originally posted by BackFire
Do we really need yet another thread on this man?

No, but I love how he triggers people. See how desperate they are to find something to criticize?(not the OP, others) It's too funny.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The sulfides!

https://i.gifer.com/LRgt.gif

He would have been smarter to just say "Harris did better that day" or just not make any excuse/comment at all, considering he's supposed to be one of the few 'honest intellectuals' out there.

He should stop doing legitimate debates. He's not good at it. Every debate I've seen him take part in he comes off pretty badly.

He's good at preaching to a crowd who loves him and playing a pay-as-you-go father figure to lonely aimless young men who need to be told who's to blame for their failures. That's what he should stick with.

And he has to realize it's no shame to debate Sam Harris and come out on the losing end.

Come on JP, Cenk from TYT got made to look even more ridiculous and he didn't blame it on a lack of sleep.

Originally posted by BackFire
He should stop doing legitimate debates. He's not good at it. Every debate I've seen him take part in he comes off pretty badly.

He's good at preaching to a crowd who loves him and playing a pay-as-you-go father figure to lonely aimless young men who need to be told who's to blame for their failures. That's what he should stick with.

BING

Cenk would struggle to win a debate against a Walmart shopping cart.

Originally posted by BackFire
Cenk would struggle to win a debate against a Walmart shopping cart.

Of course!

Originally posted by BackFire
He should stop doing legitimate debates. He's not good at it. Every debate I've seen him take part in he comes off pretty badly.

He's good at preaching to a crowd who loves him and playing a pay-as-you-go father figure to lonely aimless young men who need to be told who's to blame for their failures. That's what he should stick with. This, he is also when not being an ass quite quotable, his seizing opportunities quote is excellent, just wish JP wasn't a ****.

Originally posted by Surtur
No, but I love how he triggers people. See how desperate they are to find something to criticize?(not the OP, others) It's too funny.

To be fair, a lot of people just jump at the chance to debunk him because his pseudo-science is infuriating. He mixes some actual psychology and data in with his philosophical bullsh!t and, for a lot of people, it's hard to differentiate between the two. So his personal stances get mistaken for a fact this way.
I'd wager that's intellectually dishonest, which is the thing I dislike most about Jordan.

Though, yes, a lot of people want to have a "gotcha" moment on him, and they usually fail because they take stupid stuff out of context rather than just discussing and debunking said stupid stuff in an actual discussion. But I'd also say that's a product of Jordan's own backpedaling and dancing around a subject. He first introduced the idea of snake-gods as metaphors for DNA in ancient cultures as fact, then when questioned about it he claims that's his personal belief.

If he was actually lying to make some excuse or some shit, then he would've mentioned it closer to the platform of actual debate or discussion between him and Sam Harris, not in a side tangent in a separate podcast. Personally though, I could care less about his dietary shit, he specifically said at an event I attended that he's not the average person medically and that he's just been tweaking around to see what works for him and that he wouldn't necessarily recommend it to other people.

Can't say I'm particularly surprised by this post, since I'm aware the gay google hangout has a lot of contempt for Peterson.

Regardless, not gonna post much beyond this here. It gets exhausting enough when I have about 5 different people who'll message me like "**** Peterson! **** him! He's shit! DEFEND HIM DEFEND YOUR ****ING IDOL!!!" that I can't be ****ed talking about his diet and sleep schedule.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
If he was actually lying to make some excuse or some shit, then he would've mentioned it closer to the platform of actual debate or discussion between him and Sam Harris, not in a side tangent in a separate podcast. Personally though, I could care less about his dietary shit, he specifically said at an event I attended that he's not the average person medically and that he's just been tweaking around to see what works for him and that he wouldn't necessarily recommend it to other people.

Can't say I'm particularly surprised by this post, since I'm aware the gay google hangout has a lot of contempt for Peterson.

Regardless, not gonna post much beyond this here. It gets exhausting enough when I have about 5 different people who'll message me like "**** Peterson! **** him! He's shit! DEFEND HIM DEFEND YOUR ****ING IDOL!!!" that I can't be ****ed talking about his diet and sleep schedule. Not good enough, DMB. Defend your ****ing idol.

Originally posted by MythLord
To be fair, a lot of people just jump at the chance to debunk him because his pseudo-science is infuriating. He mixes some actual psychology and data in with his philosophical bullsh!t and, for a lot of people, it's hard to differentiate between the two. So his personal stances get mistaken for a fact this way.
I'd wager that's intellectually dishonest, which is the thing I dislike most about Jordan.

Though, yes, a lot of people want to have a "gotcha" moment on him, and they usually fail because they take stupid stuff out of context rather than just discussing and debunking said stupid stuff in an actual discussion. But I'd also say that's a product of Jordan's own backpedaling and dancing around a subject. He first introduced the idea of snake-gods as metaphors for DNA in ancient cultures as fact, then when questioned about it he claims that's his personal belief.

You can tell who the people are who aren't interested in gotchas because they will actually just let the man speak. They won't constantly interrupt or try to strawman him.

Most want a gotcha moment and the issue there is they aren't smart enough to get it. It's not just him, you see this a lot. We had someone post an entire topic meant as a "gotcha" to Ben Shapiro, and it failed spectacularly. Thus illustrating most people who try to topple these guys just aren't equipped with the proper level of intelligence.

Peterson sure can wear the **** out of some mom jeans, I'll tell you that much.

Originally posted by BackFire
Cenk would struggle to win a debate against a Walmart shopping cart.
To be fair, I once tried to debate with a shopping cart and lost. Badly. Then the security threw me out.

Probably a Target shopping cart, they're no slouches.

I assume he spent these 25 sleepless nights browsing KMC?

Originally posted by BackFire
Probably a Target shopping cart, they're no slouches.
Have no clue. My memory of that night is spotty to say the least.

This is typical Peterson nonsense. What bullshit.

Originally posted by BackFire
Do we really need yet another thread on this man?

No, he's a hypocritical weirdo and doesn't deserve so much attention, but he makes such outrageous assertions that people have to spend time debunking him.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
No, he's a hypocritical weirdo and doesn't deserve so much attention, but he makes such outrageous assertions that people have to spend time debunking him.

What I love about all this is that the dude wouldn't even be popular if leftists hadn't tried to shove their beliefs down everyone elses throat.

That makes me smile. If they'd never gone down this retarded road...JP wouldn't be earning 80 grand a month off patreon lol.

The left made him relevant AND rich. Too funny! Surely you must appreciate the hilarity of that? It's like when I played The Force Unleashed and found out the Empire was instrumental in forming the rebellion that later toppled it.

Originally posted by Surtur
What I love about all this is that the dude wouldn't even be popular if leftists hadn't tried to shove their beliefs down everyone elses throat.

That makes me smile. If they'd never gone down this retarded road...JP wouldn't be earning 80 grand a month off patreon lol.

The left made him relevant AND rich. Too funny! Surely you must appreciate the hilarity of that? It's like when I played The Force Unleashed and found out the Empire was instrumental in forming the rebellion that later toppled it.

Else's?

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Else's?

Oh kiddo, you forfeited the right to make any corrections.

Originally posted by Surtur
What I love about all this is that the dude wouldn't even be popular if leftists hadn't tried to shove their beliefs down everyone elses throat.

That makes me smile. If they'd never gone down this retarded road...JP wouldn't be earning 80 grand a month off patreon lol.

The left made him relevant AND rich. Too funny! Surely you must appreciate the hilarity of that? It's like when I played The Force Unleashed and found out the Empire was instrumental in forming the rebellion that later toppled it.

Yeah, it is not the brain dead conservative retards actually putting money in his pocket, it's dem librulz!

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Yeah, it is not the brain dead conservative retards actually putting money in his pocket, it's dem librulz!

Of course they didn't give him money. Instead, they created him. Most people that know who he is now did not know who he was until SJW's began to freak the f*ck out over him.

And as his popularity grew their hatred and insanity grew. Feeding into just more exposure for Jordan. More exposure, more money.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Yeah, it is not the brain dead conservative retards actually putting money in his pocket, it's dem librulz!

It what he has to tell himself. The people who point out Peterson is a hack are to blame for his success, not the people who actually make him rich by buying his books, paying for his live appearances and eating up every word he says.

Originally posted by Robtard
It what he has to tell himself. The people who point out Peterson is a hack are to blame for his success, not the people who actually make him rich by buying his books, paying for his live appearances and eating up every word he says.

You are twisting what I'm saying. I never said anyone who calls him a hack is to blame. I said the people who freaked out over him are what drew him an audience. Those weren't people with legitimate arguments. They were angry SJW's.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
since I'm aware the gay google hangout has a lot of contempt for Peterson.


Can't imagine why:

https://youtu.be/FmH7JUeVQb8?t=41m34s

-> without religion we lose art

https://youtu.be/FmH7JUeVQb8?t=41m54s

-> there are artists and poets who think they're godless(secretly religious tho)


https://youtu.be/FmH7JUeVQb8?t=1h28m24s

-> Genuine athiests would be like this murderer in a novel(no worries tho, coz athiests arent really athiests #freethinking)


Only reason why people go along with these beliefs oh his is because of his use of advanced diction.

"Religion is the metaphorical substrate of our ethos" sounds smart. "Religious is the basis of morality" sounds retarded.

You aren't obligated to address any of this DMB. But if you aren't willing to address these issues people bring up, you're in no position to be utilizing ad hominem on people whose critiques you can't be bothered to address.

Kbro is right.

never thought I'd see the day