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- Fight takes place on an evacuated city block (just the people are gone, everything else is still there).
- Teams start 20 feet apart.
- Winter Soldier is in Hydra Assassin mode.
- Rest of them are in character, but going all out.
- Teams get 5 minutes to strategise before the fight.

Gear:
Cap - Infinity War gear.
Black Panther - Vibranium Nano-suit.
Luke Cage - Vibranium knuckledusters and is wearing a fresh hoodie.
Killmonger - Vibranium Nano-suit.
Winter Soldier - Vibranium arm and TWS highway fight gear.
Bushmaster - Has taken the amped Nightshade super-shot and can use his paralysis powder.

Which team takes it?

Killmonger better engage T'challa cause T'challa can oneshot the other 2 with claws. Then it's a pretty downhill match for team Cap due to WS weapons and Killmonger paralysing powder, then gang up on T'challa. Heck WS can RPg them while fighting because it won't kill neither

This is a bit weird as even with WS having his highway gear, most of everyone on Team 2 can shrug off the firepower he has access to. And all three could decisively take him out h2h.

The biggest threat comes from whether or not Cap,Bp, and Luke can coordinate against Bushmaster as he outclasses everyone here stat wise...save for Luke's absurd durability. It's vice versa for team 2 trying to take Luke out IMO.

Well, I do give them 5 minutes to talk shop before the fight. So, it depends on how much you guys think the team members will be willing to share with each other, because info could make a big difference here. Such as the Panther's sharing the suit's necklace removal vulnerability, or Luke warning the others about the paralysis powder, as he has encountered it twice now.

Thinking about it, teamwork would probably go pretty decisively to team 1. Cap and BP are friends and have fought together before, and Luke has shown that he is perfectly happy to work with others if the situation calls for it (like with Danny, Misty etc.). Whereas I imagine Bucky is probably going to be set on his own thing, and Bushmaster and Killmonger probably won't like taking orders from each other.

Also, we do know at least that if either Luke or Bushmaster can land a few clean headshots on each other, they can rock each other hard enough for the win. We see Bushmaster initially floor Cage during their final fight, and after having the others buy him some time to recover, Cage eventually landing the combo that put John on his ass, before Luke got him around the neck.

I really need to finish Luke Cage season 2 if Bushmaster is this caliber of opponent.

Originally posted by John Murdoch
I really need to finish Luke Cage season 2 if Bushmaster is this caliber of opponent. Bullet proof, hits harder than IF apparently (at least a standard if), can dodge bullets.

Yea, he's a beast.

Yeah, Bushmaster was a monster. But then they had to make him extremely strong in order to pose a threat to Cage, considering the latter's upgrade. Because, as things stand, the only thing/person to do any lasting meaningful damage to him is actually John, which is really saying something.

Iron Fist hits have, at best, only caused some mild discomfort in the long run. Stick's weird incense smoke poison hit him hard, but only affected him while it was in his system. The exotic, 6-barreled shotgun that flung him out the window and onto the car also only caused a relatively mild dislocation, which was fixed ASAP once he got some assistance. And considering he can shoulderblock SUVs and stonewall Iron Fist punches without hurting his shoulders (which is also an extremely impressive strength feat, considering he didn't even budge an inch), as well as handle full-on, sustained, high-caliber machinegun fire like a normal person handles a strong breeze, it's a testament to the power of the weapon.

So, that's literally 4 things in total that have hurt him at his current levels, period. And almost none of it did any notable lasting damage. And everything else he has literally tanked at this point, including pointblank Judas bullets, headers with garbage trucks, and even grenades exploding inside his hands (which is also another impressive strength feat, as his fingers didn't even budge from the blast).

Originally posted by John Murdoch
I really need to finish Luke Cage season 2 if Bushmaster is this caliber of opponent. Yeah you've got to get back to it. He was a damn good villain too.

Originally posted by Mindset
Bullet proof, hits harder than IF apparently (at least a standard if), can dodge bullets.

Yea, he's a beast. Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Yeah, Bushmaster was a monster. But then they had to make him extremely strong in order to pose a threat to Cage, considering the latter's upgrade. Because, as things stand, the only thing/person to do any lasting meaningful damage to him is actually John, which is really saying something.

Iron Fist hits have, at best, only caused some mild discomfort in the long run. Stick's weird incense smoke poison hit him hard, but only affected him while it was in his system. The exotic, 6-barreled shotgun that flung him out the window and onto the car also only caused a relatively mild dislocation, which was fixed ASAP once he got some assistance. And considering he can shoulderblock SUVs and stonewall Iron Fist punches without hurting his shoulders (which is also an extremely impressive strength feat, considering he didn't even budge an inch), as well as handle full-on, sustained, high-caliber machinegun fire like a normal person handles a strong breeze, it's a testament to the power of the weapon.

So, that's literally 4 things in total that have hurt him at his current levels, period. And almost none of it did any notable lasting damage. And everything else he has literally tanked at this point, including pointblank Judas bullets, headers with garbage trucks, and even grenades exploding inside his hands (which is also another impressive strength feat, as his fingers didn't even budge from the blast). Originally posted by Arachnid1
Yeah you've got to get back to it. He was a damn good villain too.

Holy cow.

Really glad the MCU has been doing a great job with their villains, and I already like what I've seen of Bushmaster (just finished episode 2 a few nights ago). Will report back, and thanks fellas.

Wow. Bushmaster is right there with Thanos and Killmonger in terms of your best-of-the-best-of-the-best sir with honors (MiB reference) Marvel villains. The best anti-villain I've seen as far back as I can remember.

As for the fight, I'm going with Team 1, but I'll list some pros and cons for each side:

Team 1:
+ Two characters who have more feats than any other team member featured in Cap and Luke.
+ Luke has the highest natural durability.
+ T'Challa (along with Killmonger) has the highest durability here due to the suit, and could defeat anyone on Team 2 single-handedly save Killmonger.
+ Luke could incapacitate anyone on the other team save Killmonger with one or two good clean punches using the vibranium knuckledusters.
- Cap, while perhaps being the best fighter and having stats and feats for days, is not bullet/slashproof, and could be killed if Bucky and/or Killmonger has any wiggle room to get to him when his shield isn't up.
- Luke could be in trouble if Killmonger gets some good slashes in with his claws, as Killmonger is faster and more agile than Luke.

X-Factor: Teamwork. As Vault mentioned above, WS does his own programmed thing in WS mode and Killmonger and Bushmaster both are as willing to try to fight each other as to listen to each other. Meanwhile, Cap puts together a playbook worth of material for T'Challa and Luke in their 5 minutes of prep.

Team 2:
+ Has one member (WS) that is the only ranged-attack centric character in play here.
+ Killmonger can take down anyone save T'Challa one Team 1 and has the most durability due to his suit (T'Challa as well).
- Being only 20 feet apart works a bit in favor of Team 1, as Bucky won't be further away, meaning he doesn't have as much time to unload with his WS gear.
- If Luke or BP engage Bucky in H2H, it's game over for the WS. Cap can beat him too, but in-character might pull his punches some to spare his friend. What I'm saying is that the undoubted weak link in terms of H2H-only fighting is WS.

X-Factor: Bushmaster's paralysis powder. If any member of Team 1 catches it, he is done for the fight, and if it gets through Panther's mask then Team 1 goes down.

Again, I'm backing Team 1.

EDIT: Add in Loki, Red Skull, Alexander Pierce, and Vulture on that top honors MCU villain list.

What about Ego and Hela? A lot of people put them too in that list

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
What about Ego and Hela? A lot of people put them too in that list

Klaue and Ebony Maw too.

Klaue was awesome. Biggest mistake they made in that movie was killing him off.

Andy Serkis is a great actor:

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I actually rethought the teamwork thing somewhat. While I still think WS mode Bucky will probably be unlikely to follow orders, I could actually see Bushmaster and Killmonger reaching an understanding. Killmonger is very pragmatic and was willing to work alongside Klaue to get what he wanted, and Bushmaster and Cage, despite technically being enemies, teamed up during the one fight where Mariah tried to set John up.

So, if they could come up with a strategy that capitalised on John's insanse strength and speed on the amped shot, plus his paralysis powder, plus Killmonger's own nigh-indestructible suit and claws, Bucky doing his own thing might not be too big of a deal. At worst, he'd still likely be keeping at least one member on the other team busy for a while.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Klaue and Ebony Maw too.
Yeah. Then Thanos too (sorry I don't hate Quantity as much as you guys do)
In fact the only reason MCU had underdeveloped villains, or as some called it, the ""'villain'"" problem was because they used that time to develop the heroes. When they had built enough character for the protagonists, they dived right into complex antagonists

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
What about Ego and Hela? A lot of people put them too in that list Originally posted by FrothByte
Klaue and Ebony Maw too.

Agreed, just forgot to put them on there. Ego was actually my favorite villain in the MCU till this year probably.

Let's be clear though, Bushmaster is not bulletproof in the way Luke Cage is.

If you unloaded a clip on Cage there won't be a scratch. The same was shown to just not be true for Bushmaster. He'll certainly survive it easy enough, but it won't be completely unharmed.

Admittedly...Cage was clearly shown to have been given a power up this season. He's far tougher.

Amped Bushmaster should definitely be bulletproof. At least against smaller calibers. He's several times more powerful in every aspect.

Originally posted by KingD19
Amped Bushmaster should definitely be bulletproof. At least against smaller calibers. He's several times more powerful in every aspect.

Do you see him tanking a Judas bullet? Or that explosion Luke survives?

Originally posted by Surtur
Do you see him tanking a Judas bullet? Or that explosion Luke survives?

Notice the part where I said "at least against smaller calibers". No hes not taking a Judas bullet or an explosion like the ones Luke took. But I could see him tanking the same grenade or most normal bullet types.

Originally posted by KingD19
Notice the part where I said "at least against smaller calibers". No hes not taking a Judas bullet or an explosion like the ones Luke took. But I could see him tanking the same grenade or most normal bullet types.

Yeah my bad. True small arms fire should be easily handled at his best.

Misty shoots him at one point during the final fight, while he is on the amped shot, but it's hard to see whether the bullets hit or not, due to the flashing/strobe light effect they have going on inside the club.

Small arms fire definitely won't bother Bushmaster to a significant degree anyway. I mean Maria shot him several times when he attacked her home but he didn't even blink.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I actually rethought the teamwork thing somewhat. While I still think WS mode Bucky will probably be unlikely to follow orders, I could actually see Bushmaster and Killmonger reaching an understanding. Killmonger is very pragmatic and was willing to work alongside Klaue to get what he wanted, and Bushmaster and Cage, despite technically being enemies, teamed up during the one fight where Mariah tried to set John up.

So, if they could come up with a strategy that capitalised on John's insanse strength and speed on the amped shot, plus his paralysis powder, plus Killmonger's own nigh-indestructible suit and claws, Bucky doing his own thing might not be too big of a deal. At worst, he'd still likely be keeping at least one member on the other team busy for a while.

Here is a question: can Bushmaster give his paralysis powder to another teammate? Like hand it to Killmonger for him to use?

Originally posted by John Murdoch
Here is a question: can Bushmaster give his paralysis powder to another teammate? Like hand it to Killmonger for him to use?

Well, the initial idea with the 5-minute prep was that they can use whatever strategy they can come up with as a team in that time. So, I suppose this would technically fall under that.