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Do you think Kitty will realize her potential against Karnak and learn to phase out her weak points before she fails in a fight?
Or will Karnak teach Kitty a lesson.
https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.O23N7Oe9Q4fVbYL6Z9E3OwHaJ-&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300
vs.
https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.JN8Y2nCmwr2Mb8_8rnMlrgHaI-&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300

Kitty doesn't need her powers for this fight.

Karnak sucks at fighting.

He broke unbreakable glass.

Glass doesn't hit back.

Kitty was trained by Wolverine and Ogun. Karnak can't handle skilled martial artists.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW


Kitty was trained by Wolverine.

Well then she at least knows how to get her ass kicked by Mister X, and Shang Chi.

Originally posted by Vanguard
Well then she at least knows how to get her ass kicked by Mister X, and Shang Chi.

The only time Shang and Logan actually fought, it was Logan who kicked his ass:

https://tinyurl.com/y936zgvx

And Mister X actually lost more times vs. Wolverine than vice versa. Try again, hater

From what I understand, this was some untold story, that really took place. I could be wrong.

https://s15.postimg.cc/a7dw04ox7/ZAe.jpgprivate image hosting

Still, Wolverine isn't the martial arts great that people want to believe he is. Way overrated, he doesn't even rely on skill most of the time.

You understand nothing (as usual).

Read the comic. It wasn't a fight; Logan never even attacks Shang.

He is. That's why he's rated 7/7 in every handbook ever released (even Cap got downgraded to 6) and had no problem stalemating your amped Panther... heck, didn't need his powers for it.

Well Karnak could accept the gift from Hercules cause if he could have had a Hawaii punch by breaking unbreakable glass he knows his stuff.

Lol

For all his ability, Karnak's actual fighting performance is always mediocre.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11129/111297011/6108076-0352577339-35774.jpg

And yet he led the charge against the disgusting offense fighting the Celestials fought back when Galactus participled with some advise from Bob.
https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.cOnwQ2pbB7ObrXjSfTYy9wHaDa&pid=15.1&P=0&w=390&h=181

Still doesn't prove he can take any martial artist in the MU.

Karnak could put Franklin Richards in a box that he can't get out of and he is a martial artist.
http://comicbookrealm.com/cover-scan/f1b8f0aa410ca988cdf59ae62ba7334d/xl/marvel-karnak-issue-4b.jpg
https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.PosjTKoIoWKEjisGBqwA9wAAAA&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300

plushttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NML9l3Id1so/UTvRhn6s4gI/AAAAAAAAxuo/fRbXtwvWSpU/s1600/thecat4-10.jpg

Lol wonder man, you really don't want too look closely at Karnak's record. Just from the top of my head, 1-shotted by BP on 2 separate incidents. Easily owned by Taskmaster and Gamora. He manage to figured out that Daredevil was blind. Which did him no good as he quickly got beat again. IIRC, he doesn't even have a single win over a A, B, or C list martial artist.

Maybe not, but he took out the Silver Surfer and Vision which is more than Pryde or any of these other jokester can lay claim to.

He won against Fantomex,no?

And I'd like to remind you that Karnak is baseline, he has no powers.

This shit is from training.

Don't you dare disrespect him again.

Hellcat fighting Manbull changes EVERYTHING

Originally posted by Supermutant
Lol wonder man, you really don't want too look closely at Karnak's record. Just from the top of my head, 1-shotted by BP on 2 separate incidents. Easily owned by Taskmaster and Gamora. He manage to figured out that Daredevil was blind. Which did him no good as he quickly got beat again. IIRC, he doesn't even have a single win over a A, B, or C list martial artist.

Mantis, you mean.

Originally posted by krisblaze
And I'd like to remind you that Karnak is baseline, he has no powers.

This shit is from training.

Don't you dare disrespect him again.

We disrespect him every day and we'll continue to do so, as that's the way he's always being written.

He hasn't been exposed to the mist, but he still has the Inhuman physicals... and still sucks with them.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
We disrespect him every day and we'll continue to do so, as that's the way he's always being written.

He hasn't been exposed to the mist, but he still has the Inhuman physicals... and still sucks with them.

That's what the Vision thought.

You know.

The Vision.

The guy who shat on Wolverine.

Originally posted by krisblaze
That's what the Vision thought.

You know.

The Vision.

The guy who shat on Wolverine.

Go home, kris. You're drunk.

http://i66.tinypic.com/2pyz3ip.jpg

Oh wait, you Norwegian guys always drink at home, anyway

Sniktbub was mindcontrolled, doesn't count!

Imagine what he would do if he wasn't

Karnak always had the potential, but Marvel was never willing to give him a chance - even during the Inhumans wankfest, he got his ass handed to him by the blind lawyer.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Mantis, you mean.

Yes and a 1-shot too

Originally posted by Supermutant
Yes and a 1-shot too

Despite enhanced durability and having devoted his life to training...

Originally posted by Wonder Man
Well Karnak could accept the gift from Hercules cause if he could have had a Hawaii punch by breaking unbreakable glass he knows his stuff.
You are quite possibly the greatest internet poster of all time.

Did you read the Hellcat page?
The only way hero's win their fights is by outthinking their enemies.
Thanks StyleTime.

Kitty is much smarter than Karnak.

Not the smartest wins. Just that thinking on the spot wins. Karnak's power is one of the greatest at that.

Lol, only as long as he's up against inanimate objects.

Kitty doesn't need her mutant power to kick his ass.

Couldn't Karnak fart and turn that inanimate cloud into something deadly by maybe drinking a poison like Socrates did only not enough to kill himself.
If he drank the mutant legacy virus for instance and silent but deadly one she would never know she was dead until to late.https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.rgLV5m7wsMqecB6zVDLfjgHaI4&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300
or
http://source.superherostuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/karnakkick.jpg

Of course Karnak has had training by the Inhumans and I'm sure they have developed Biological weapon.
If it could be relased by a body command like a ti kawn do kick she'd have no where to run.

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/51/bc/96/51bc961d913fff0b7a1c548d03d8abde--jim-morrison-poetry-music-therapy.jpg

I've got a better Idea.
Let's just say Let there be light.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You understand nothing (as usual).


Saying I understand nothing, is like saying you're always right. You're like KMC's mascot. While I'm one of the star players.

The CIA started using cyanide pills a long time ago on their agents in case one got caught.
Imagine how far Marvel has come in such knowledge.
Bio-weapons can be as powerful as any mutant.

Originally posted by Vanguard
Saying I understand nothing, is like saying you're always right. You're like KMC's mascot. While I'm one of the star players.

Nah. If the posters in this thread were the Cleveland Cavaliers, Stilt would be Kevin Love, and you'd be Rodney Hood. And Wonderman would be J.R. Smith. I'd be a drunk fan in the 20 dollar row.

Originally posted by Vanguard
Saying I understand nothing, is like saying you're always right. You're like KMC's mascot. While I'm one of the star players.

I'm not always right, nobody is (especially not on this site, seeing as we're debating wildly inconsistent comics out of all things here).

You want to be a star player, then start working on it. Read more, participate in the battlezone, make a respect thread maybe.

At the moment, you just excel at getting your facts wrong and giving T'Challa a cock massage. That won't do, Van.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I'm not always right, nobody is (especially not on this site, seeing as we're debating wildly inconsistent comics out of all things here).

You want to be a star player, then start working on it. Read more, participate in the battlezone, make a respect thread maybe.

At the moment, you just excel at getting your facts wrong and giving T'Challa a cock massage. That won't do, Van.

I've been doing this longer than you. Just because I haven't done it HERE much doesn't mean I haven't put in the work.

Oh, really? What other sites you post on? Do say.

And you think KMC was my first?

Hero Chat before the crash
Comixtreme
CBR
Comicvine

Ah, Comixtreme. Have posted there more than a decade ago. The nostalgia.

Marvel.com. Some of their users migrated here, actually.

Thecomicsledger. It appears to be still alive.





Reddit gets all the attention these days, I've never registered there though.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Ah, Comixtreme. Have posted there more than a decade ago. The nostalgia.

Marvel.com. Some of their users migrated here, actually.

Thecomicsledger. It appears to be still alive.





Reddit gets all the attention these days, I've never registered there though.

I don't like Reddit format. They do have some decent threads.

Neither do I. And their "updated" site is buggy, so I need to redirect to old.reddit, which is quite bothersome.

Yes, many of their respect threads are great. Not just limited to comic book characters, either.

Karnak breaks his hand hitting Kitty's weak spot.

Karnak's best feat is what, KO'ing Fantomex? And it's not like Fantomex has some lengthy hand-to-hand resume so...

Originally posted by StyleTime
Karnak's best feat is what, KO'ing Fantomex? And it's not like Fantomex has some lengthy hand-to-hand resume so...

It's also a very recent feat... and happened only because of the Inhumans wankfest going at Disney these days...

Wait for the Disney/FOX deal to finalize. With the X-Men back, Disney will kill every single Inhuman and never use them again.

Heck, they already started. Maximus and the stupid dog are dead.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Karnak's best feat is what, KO'ing Fantomex? And it's not like Fantomex has some lengthy hand-to-hand resume so... Didn't he knock out Surfer with a brick?

Lol

King of all cheapshots, but it happened.

Surfer was lucky that brick wasn't from Mexico.

He took out Vision when he went partially solid.

One hit.

As the CIA made those cyanide so long ago don't you think they could make pills to prevent suicide by now.

Originally posted by krisblaze
He took out Vision when he went partially solid.

One hit.

With Vision's back turned on him. Not a fight.

What? Vision was in the middle of attacking him.

You disrespect me and Karnak like that again and we'll show up on your doorstep

Originally posted by krisblaze
What? Vision was in the middle of attacking him.

Originally posted by krisblaze
You disrespect me and Karnak like that again and we'll show up on your doorstep



Sorry, I was thinking about Surfer for some reason.

Vs. Vision, yeah, it was definitely a fair combat

But like others have pointed out in earlier threads... Vision's and Kitty's phasing powers are actually different, so there's no guarantee that trick would work on Pryde.

Indeed, but that's the best intangible-showing one can have without actually fighting Kitty.

Yup, it's really good. And we see Vision kissing the pavement afterwards, so it had to be quite effective.

It seems that Kitty's intangibility is exactly like for the Flash:

http://i.imgur.com/C7nNPDW.png

The Flash vibrates to do the trick.

Kitty could use her power as a tranqulizer and knock eachother out and then when she returns to full solidity awake and claim the win.

Originally posted by Smurph
Didn't he knock out Surfer with a brick?

Lol
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
King of all cheapshots, but it happened.

Surfer was lucky that brick wasn't from Mexico.
Originally posted by krisblaze
He took out Vision when he went partially solid.

One hit.
I legit thought you all meant Fantomex at first. I was trying so hard to think back to where this all happened lol.