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1. In the Dark Dimension. Forum fight.

2. Sexual encounter. Can she exhaust Superman as she did Hulk.

Superman dies easily in both. EASILY!!!

2. Umar's magical pu$$y melts his non-magical dikk.

Lololol

Kal Shit El dies.

Round two doesn't even happen, because he doesn't know what to do.

He'll be like... "Ungh. Unghhh..."
Umar be like, "that's my belly button. Away with u virgin. Make mommy a sandwich"

Superman dies.

Superman bench-presses Umar for 5 days without breaking a sweat.

Anyone ever read First Thunder?

If that is any indication of how well Superman would do against magical beings, he'd have huge problems dealing with Umar.

Originally posted by Stoic
Anyone ever read First Thunder?

If that is any indication of how well Superman would do against magical beings, he'd have huge problems dealing with Umar.
The problems he wouldn't hope to overcome, LOL.
Seriously Superman gets lolstomped here, Umar's energy barrier had blocked WBH's onslaught and she is portrayed as classic Strange superior.
Frankly she can also pin Supes with some planets' weight (she had done similar stuff in Thor annual 9).

Umar is only a little beneath Dormammu. She'd destroy him in any sort of confrontation.

In the second scenario, she doesn't even get to have sex with him. He watches from an elevator.

Originally posted by AbelAnderson
The problems he wouldn't hope to overcome, LOL.
Seriously Superman gets lolstomped here, Umar's energy barrier had blocked WBH's onslaught and she is portrayed as classic Strange superior.
Frankly she can also pin Supes with some planets' weight (she had done similar stuff in Thor annual 9). Originally posted by deathslash
Umar is only a little beneath Dormammu. She'd destroy him in any sort of confrontation.

In the second scenario, she doesn't even get to have sex with him. He watches from an elevator.
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Not to stop the parade here, but Umar is hardly that impressive.

Originally posted by abhilegend
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Not to stop the parade here, but Umar is hardly that impressive.
How? And what's stopping Superman from getting stomped here?
I've checked and there aren't flaws in the stuff I listed.

1. Umar

2. Umar > Lois > Superman

Originally posted by AbelAnderson
How? And what's stopping Superman from getting stomped here?
I've checked and there aren't flaws in the stuff I listed.
Superman punching Umar in the face.

Yes, there is. It's called logic.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman punching Umar in the face.

Yes, there is. It's called logic.
Denying feats? LOL
Go ahead and prove those stuff I listed wrong.
And since when can Superman punch harder than WBH? Cause it's clear that she was fine after the onslaught in THOM due to the shields around her.

Originally posted by AbelAnderson
Denying feats? LOL
Go ahead and prove those stuff I listed wrong.
And since when can Superman punch harder than WBH? Cause it's clear that she was fine after the onslaught in THOM due to the shields around her.
What feats? Being Dormammu sister isn't a feat.

WBH didn't punch her, it was the Shockwave of the punch. It's also hardly her average.

John Stewart has survived supernovas with his autshield, Superman oneshotted him while punching his construct.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What feats? Being Dormammu sister isn't a feat.

WBH didn't punch her, it was the Shockwave of the punch. It's also hardly her average.

John Stewart has survived supernovas with his autshield, Superman oneshotted him while punching his construct.
Pinned her foe with the force of planets count as one, overpowered classic Strange count as one, sliced through a planet with blast count as one, shuddered two universes count as one, and created a spell capable of melting the Dark Dimension count as one.

Also, WBH's shockwave destroyed several planets and nearby moons, and averagely, Superman does not have showings on that range.

Originally posted by AbelAnderson
Pinned her foe with the force of planets count as one,
Thor was literally talking hyperbole. He was put into coma by a falling boat mast in the same issue.



Not as impressive as you think. Strange was extremely fickle.

Is that supposed to be impressive?

Scans for these? I'm pretty sure context is involved in both.



Which several planets? Hal Jordan just initiated a supernova while dying and Superman literally overpowered him in energy beams contest.

Also matter in Dark Dimension is easier to destroy than the regular space. Hence not as impressive as you think.

https://s22.postimg.cc/pwoy1oddt/image.jpgphotoupload

From Doctor Strange Sorcerer Supreme 50 if you are curious.

Lol... Umar is also walking around with Dormammu power combined with her own. This is a slaughter and an easily.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor was literally talking hyperbole. He was put into coma by a falling boat mast in the same issue.



Not as impressive as you think. Strange was extremely fickle.

Is that supposed to be impressive?

Scans for these? I'm pretty sure context is involved in both.



Which several planets? Hal Jordan just initiated a supernova while dying and Superman literally overpowered him in energy beams contest.

Also matter in Dark Dimension is easier to destroy than the regular space. Hence not as impressive as you think.

https://s22.postimg.cc/pwoy1oddt/image.jpgphotoupload

From Doctor Strange Sorcerer Supreme 50 if you are curious.

People already debunked that Strange scan. Stop trippin abhigail.

And he has busted planets, and lifted the Midgard Serpent...etc
Superman himself has low showings, nearly every powerhouse has low showings. In that instance he was most likely talking the truth given he had held planetary stuff before.


Using inconsistency as an argument doesn't work that well, and I was talking about Classic Strange who had destroyed a dimension.


You mean blasting through a planet? Superman had been KOed by moon busting attacks. Sure, this isn't quite impressive as others but Superman is not shrugging it off.


https://photos.google.com/u/1/search/_tra_/photo/AF1QipM8DRScssKVlqNKnN2Ow1iWAXNKP0Lisz2fkvJg
https://photos.google.com/u/1/search/_tra_/photo/AF1QipN2R2KK3rDwwi8Ha5gOtaI0GN49vmNqHK3s268Q
https://photos.google.com/u/1/search/_tra_/photo/AF1QipOR7i94muWFGN5wV2hAsDxvoCInKMlGBQoucwGv

WBH was not even trying to bust the planet they were on, the gamma burst he released incinerated nearby moons and some planets.
Yes, weaker, this term is generally used in a Dr Strange-related thread, but by how much? The burst also incinerated lord armageddon, amped Bi-Beast, amped Wendigo, and billions of mindless ones (in the past even three can post significant threat to the Defenders).

Assuming a character always goes full potential is quite inaccurate. For example, Superman doesn't use his planet-cracking punches or moon-busting punches all the time, and Beta Ray Bill does not smash SB on others' face with planet busting strength during every encounter.

Originally posted by carver9
People already debunked that Strange scan. Stop trippin abhigail.
Really?




Abhigail?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Really?




Abhigail?

I'm not getting into the name calling game, but yeah it was debunked by the Hulkster several months ago when he provided scans of certain areas that had normal gravity in the Dark Dimension versus the sections that did not. It boiled down to the sections that had normal gravity was due to that sections guardian or guardians being present. Umar was most certainly present in her section or solar system sized kingdom.

Aside from that, Superman has trouble with metaphysical beings, so it's no big deal here. He's simply out of his element against beings that defy the physical laws that he must abide by. Most characters are. If this was Captain Marvel vs Umar, I'd give him the nod due to his ability to hit magical creatures.

Originally posted by AbelAnderson
And he has busted planets, and lifted the Midgard Serpent...etc


Thor has never destroyed any planet. The Midgard Serpent? Debunked long ago.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=573544&pagenumber=7

Go there.

Where? Could you show us where he was even under weighing of one planet?

Yes and who had lost to Namor.

Classic Strange might be the most inconsistent character ever.



Superman quite literally shrugged off getting punched through Earth.

Shadow Moon is hardly just moon busting attack. At the speed it was moving, it would be far above planet busting attacks.





It was all their strength. When the same happened on Earth, not even the surroundings were destroyed.

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Incredible-Hulks-2010/Issue-635?id=33165





Yes, that's the main strength related part but you're acting like planet busting attack was the main thing.

Bi beast and Wendigo were not amped. Also mindless ones don't stack in durability. If the attack was potent enough to destroy one mindless one, it would do the same to others.

And Mindless Ones are jobbers who get killed by the likes of Blade.



But in the same issue?

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... Umar is also walking around with Dormammu power combined with her own. This is a slaughter and an easily.
Where did that happen carter? Originally posted by carver9
People already debunked that Strange scan. Stop trippin abhigail.
Where did that happen Carter?

Thor pull midgard serps. Feat crazee.




And yea. Wanna see these dark dimen scans.

And that doesn't mean the feat itself is completely unaccepted, given how there were users in that thread still believe in that feat.


World engine, the feat with Hercules...etc they prove him being planetary in strength, and he has multiple planet-busting statements.


Namor had drawn blood from Thanos, Jane Thor had drawn blood from Odin, Thing had drawn blood from Thanos...these are all the same by being plot induced stupidity.


As he switched body with Bizzaro, yes, but the problem is there was only ONE feat, and you don't know how exactly the shadow moon's mass is when Superman destroyed it. Ironically the feat is generally mentioned as of Superman's lacking of durability.



Hulk wasn't even using full strength when they're on Earth, it was shown that he could finally stop holding back in the Dark Dimension for there being no innocents.

During WWH, Sentry unleashed tons of energy capable of destroying the Earth, but did it happen? LOL,NO, because he held back at last, and so did WBH.



They were amped before going into the Dark Dimension. FFF also.
Yeah, good argument regarding the jobber part, cause any feat accomplished by jobbers are apparently irrelevant.


So what? It's not like shit similar to that had never happened.

Defenders 2005-2006, last issue.

When has Superman fights resulted in a city being destroyed, let alone Earth. Scans please.

Originally posted by AbelAnderson
And that doesn't mean the feat itself is completely unaccepted, given how there were users in that thread still believe in that feat.

Believing something false wouldn't make it true.

The feat is basically nothing.

World Engine is literally unquantifiable.

The arm wrestling with Hercules happens in future and hence alternate reality.

Statements would take you only so far.



That's just an example. Strange has literally dozens of such examples.

He has lost thrice to Spider-Man alone.



Superman's body was punched through the planet while Bizarro had it.

Yes, we do. Relativity only increases the mass of the moon and Superman had literally mass going to infinity as specified.



Hulk wasn't aware he wasn't on Earth. Until he was informed about that.

https://s22.postimg.cc/fzs7kl3b1/image.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/4nfm2t2bx/image.jpg

He was also giant sized.

So Hulk thought he was in Dark Dimension but held back? A gamma bomb amped A bomb and She Hulk fought him without any issue too.




No, they were not. That amp was removed.



Nah, only what you determine is valid and other isn't.

Getting put into a coma by a ship mast but lifting planets mass? Where?

Originally posted by AbelAnderson
Defenders 2005-2006, last issue.
So where she was amped on Eternity power? Figured. Originally posted by carver9
When has Superman fights resulted in a city being destroyed, let alone Earth. Scans please.
Superman 215. Superman and Zod fought each other whose damage was transferred to the planet by their connection to earth Superman had created. They literally punch the earth to rubble.

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Superman-1987/Issue-215?id=16668

He has also destroyed planets fighting Emperor Joker, punched a planet sized chunk of source wall apart and destroyed Earth 2 with Kal L.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So where she was amped on Eternity power? Figured.
Superman 215. Superman and Zod fought each other whose damage was transferred to the planet by their connection to earth Superman had created. They literally punch the earth to rubble.

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Superman-1987/Issue-215?id=16668

He has also destroyed planets fighting Emperor Joker, punched a planet sized chunk of source wall apart and destroyed Earth 2 with Kal L.

They were connected to the planet. Any damage each received was transferred to the planet. Everyone knows this which is the reason no one mentions it.

Joker and Superman size dwarfed planets. Of course they can destroy them. Desperate post. .

Originally posted by carver9
They were connected to the planet. Any damage each received was transferred to the planet. Everyone knows this which is the reason no one mentions it.

Which means that the planet was destroyed by their attacks.



The planets were shrinking due to the infinite gravity Joker was applying on the whole universe. Their mass wasn't reduced.

And Superman was fighting in pretty much infinite gravity.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Which means that the planet was destroyed by their attacks.



The planets were shrinking due to the infinite gravity Joker was applying on the whole universe. Their mass wasn't reduced.

And Superman was fighting in pretty much infinite gravity.

After reading this post, this just made me realize that no matter what I say, you see what you want to see. This is ridiculous. No Superman expert use these showings. NONE OF THEM!!! I'm done.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17


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What happened my dear Thorbag?

Originally posted by carver9
After reading this post, this just made me realize that no matter what I say, you see what you want to see. This is ridiculous. No Superman expert use these showings. NONE OF THEM!!! I'm done.


Then those "experts" are idiots.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17


Superman'll be like... "Ungh. Unghhh..."


Umar'll be like, "That's ... my belly button."







I'm generally conservative when it comes to humor.





But that was funny.

Originally posted by carver9
After reading this post, this just made me realize that no matter what I say, you see what you want to see. This is ridiculous. No Superman expert use these showings. NONE OF THEM!!! I'm done. friendly reminder that Abhi once thought that superman got punched by a 5-d imp when in fact he got hit by a helicopter.

Originally posted by abhilegend
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https://s22.postimg.cc/mxwbqnjgt/image.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/g7fuh840t/image.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/r711su25p/image.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/aj9jqcf3x/image.jpg https://s22.postimg.cc/rjsfz0zv1/image.jpg

What happened my dear Thorbag?

This...is...terrible...at...best...laughable.

Originally posted by deathslash
friendly reminder that Abhi once thought that superman got punched by a 5-d imp when in fact he got hit by a helicopter.

Please tell me this isnt true.

Originally posted by carver9
This...is...terrible...at...best...laughable.
Shut up.

Originally posted by carver9
Please tell me this isnt true.
Like Aquaman stabbing Darkseid was fanart?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Like Aquaman stabbing Darkseid was fanart?

How can you not tell from a punch vs someone being hit by a helicopter? What size screen are you looking at this stuff from?

Originally posted by carver9
Please tell me this isnt true.



Sorry for the names not being attached, it's impossible to quote things from threads that have been closed.

Pretty sure the links are available this time.
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h52/Abel_Hus/4985374-4_zpse4biunyj.jpg?t=1532740119
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h52/Abel_Hus/4985253-15_zpszwtdvll2.jpg
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h52/Abel_Hus/1_zpszmvapfgk.png?t=1532740121
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h52/Abel_Hus/4985388-15_zps4qfmqplu.jpg?t=1532740357

Yeah, this statement here is just plain wrong.

Originally posted by AbelAnderson
Pretty sure the links are available this time.
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h52/Abel_Hus/4985374-4_zpse4biunyj.jpg?t=1532740119
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h52/Abel_Hus/4985253-15_zpszwtdvll2.jpg
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h52/Abel_Hus/1_zpszmvapfgk.png?t=1532740121
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h52/Abel_Hus/4985388-15_zps4qfmqplu.jpg?t=1532740357

Yeah, this statement here is just plain wrong.
And what does that show?

Originally posted by abhilegend
And what does that show?
First scan was she making 616 and Dark Dimension shudder.
Second one is casted a spell powerful enough to melt the Dark Dimension.
Third shown that she can absorb universe and break down barriers between universes.
Fourth and the last shown she defeating Dormammu and stole his powers.

Originally posted by carver9
How can you not tell from a punch vs someone being hit by a helicopter? What size screen are you looking at this stuff from?
How can't you tell Aquaman stabbing Darkseid was a fanart?

Originally posted by AbelAnderson
First scan was she making 616 and Dark Dimension shudder.
"Seems to make two universes shudder".

Purely metaphorical.

That shows Dr Strange hurled by Umar.

By breaking down the barriers of the universes. Even Brainiac can do that and Superman straight up laughed at his attacks.

Umar and Dormammu have a special connection to the power.

Context please? Issue number.

That's not metaphorical lmao.

It's meaningless hyperbole but it's not a metaphor for something.

The fact is, it did , and that isn't the statement of the character, but the narrator. Using the same logic of yours, all statements should've been judged useless, but things don't work that way.

Clearly, the background of the universe was melting, you can even see it in the next issue.

Breaking the barriers and absorbing the universe are two different parts.

It was simple, she tapped into his powers and stole it from him.

Originally posted by krisblaze
That's not metaphorical lmao.

It's meaningless hyperbole but it's not a metaphor for something.
And how is it a hyperbole?

Ah! Thank you!

My pleasure.
Your threads are interesting, btw.

Originally posted by AbelAnderson
The fact is, it did , and that isn't the statement of the character, but the narrator. Using the same logic of yours, all statements should've been judged useless, but things don't work that way.

Because it was silver age and flowery language was kind of their speciality.

But hey, Captain Marvel and Lobo rocked the cosmos too.

https://s15.postimg.cc/ruz3c4ajf/image.jpg

Just narration too.



How can I when you didn't give me issue number?



Agreed, that's what Umar was doing. She has never absorbed a universe.

So you knew it had context? Why post it?

Abighail now has a free pass to disregard anything from before the 90s.

Nevermind that he's discussing a character from that period.

Your attempts at RIVing are amusing Kris but leave trolling for the trolls.

''Rocked with the sounds of battle'' which means it's their battle that had been heard all across the cosmos, not their powers affecting it.

Doctor Strange : Master of the Mystic Arts

Those were seperated stuff, clearly the text portrayed ''breaking barriers'' and ''absorbing universe'' as two different, unrelated thing.

She can always tap into his powers, and besides she currently still holds the power she stole from him in the last issue of Defenders.

Originally posted by AbelAnderson
''Rocked with the sounds of battle'' which means it's their battle that had been heard all across the cosmos, not their powers affecting it.

Seriously? "Rocked" means heard now? But "shuddered" means something else?

Issue number, not title.

It was due to breaking barriers. Not to mention neither Dormammu or Umar have ever absorbed universes.

This isn't Unar+Dormammu.

No, she isn't.

~~~~ Superman got beaten by a tractor ~~~~