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Street level nonsense jumped the shark in the mid 80s. When you consider the damage they do to beings that can tank explosions and multistory falls without breaking a sweat all WITHOUT any tech.

MMA experts tagging FTL speedsters. Peak human fighters bodying metahuman tanks. Peak human characters tanking hits from metahumans that can lift trucks. I can go on but you get my point.

Nowadays 'street level' heroes are people like Jarvis and Aunt May.

As far as Iron Fist, he was nuking city blocks and surviving direct nuclear radiation as early as the 80's. The problem is, everyone went the "Voltron school of drama", so he wouldn't just end a fight at the start even though he totaly could.

If comics generally shows you as having a good fight with Spiderman, you're street leveler, regardless of the 'hellcarrier' feats and whatnot.

Yes, that includes Thor, too. Although he's more low-meta.

^^^the ****?

If a grenade can at least hurt you, your beech ass is street to me.

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The scans are great, i was confused by your sentence structure. Thought you were saying Thor is street level?

He is.

I wouldn't even call him street level, I'd say sea level is more appropriate.

The only scan there that is relevant is Masterson vs. Spider-Man, and he's a guy who forgot he could summon lightning, and who screams out from flying into a building only to realize he was invulnerable.

I guess the Mantis scan counts too, but she struck Thor from behind with mystical/alien Kung-Fu or whatever that can affect non-biological beings with nerve attacks.

The rest are just trolling. Especially the first two.

Yeah, i shouldve known better than to ask an actual question w. posters like Phil as regulars.

Oh well, back to posting Superman threads, its something those posters understand.

Spider-Man was never street level. He's always had legit super strength..etc. Neither does A-listers like Cap/Bats because jobber aura. You have to be a B-lister or below and not have any super power or enhancement whatsoever to be considered street.

'Street level' was always a misnomer though. It's not like Black Panther was ever focused on just fighting street crime. Same with Cap, who was considered the mark for top-tier street level, for a while at least.

If street level just means 'no real super powers' then yeah, the definition is outdated, because the line has blurred between Bat gadgets and Iron Man armor (to say nothing of Bats' superhuman stats). At what point do gadgets = having powers? And this definition never really applied to Iron Fist or others anyways.

If street level means 'notably less powerful than high meta/heralds', then I think the term still basically applies. Black Panther has gotten more powerful, but so has Iron Man. Individuals might shift up and down but the rough comic book power divides still seem to exist.

I think you could probably make a case that DC heroes have all gotten more powerful at a faster rate than Marvel. Maybe all these tier concepts are less useful if the two big companies are less aligned.

I think characters like the Punisher should be the bar for Street Level.

Interesting question, yeah most so called streets from years ago are clearly low meta now like Bane. A street nowadays would be someone like the Cat who just has martial arts as a skill, and normally not any advance tech or armor. Someone who can still be killed by a single gun shot, that doesn't have enhanced stats or even a slight healing factor. Spiderman is definitely above all streets and a lot of low metas.

What I love about the Wolverine/Thor scan is that Thor actually got sneak attacked by Wolverine jumping from the only tree in like a 1 mile radius without any leaves to hide in.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The only scan there that is relevant is Masterson vs. Spider-Man, and he's a guy who forgot he could summon lightning, and who screams out from flying into a building only to realize he was invulnerable.

I guess the Mantis scan counts too, but she struck Thor from behind with mystical/alien Kung-Fu or whatever that can affect non-biological beings with nerve attacks.

The rest are just trolling. Especially the first two.
None of the scans you mentioned are relevant. Masterson was a noob with Thor's powers, Mantis sucker attacked Thor, Thor was holding back vs DD and Wolverine. The only scan that IS relevant is vs Mongoose. But that guy is a legit speedster so it's not a bad showing for Thor.

Woah woah woah! This is a family forum pal, not Stormfront

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Woah woah woah! This is a family forum pal, not Stormfront


Part of the "street level" problem is that it's not a KMC exclusive term. The comics world, both creators and consumers, shares a common but vague understanding of what constitutes street level. Most of the low meta, and even some above that, are considered street level by the general populace. It's only on battleboards that we separate them into "powers vs no powers."

^^^Now i know where all the posters who have been banned here wind up.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
A forum with a better admin than this one. Check it out

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/index.php I think we found our emergency Forum in case KMC goes down.

Pretty sure I got banned there in my teens. I know I had an account and was trolling the shit out of it, but forget the end result.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I think we found our emergency Forum in case KMC goes down.
Not with -that- sig you didnt.

I will just dust up my old black power sig and avatar that I was ready to use the day Marwash returns.

Originally posted by Philosophia
I'd say sea level is more appropriate.

Beyond street level. I wonder what's the fastest fish in Marvel? hmm
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Watch out Namor. We have a new king of the seas.

You can just keep using your current one. Same effect I assume.

Current Thor would've drowned.

"According to the myths and legends surrounding my own ****ing brother this might happen. I better act according to them."

Which time?

In the same comic

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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
In the same comic
Which comic?

Originally posted by riv6672
Which comic?

Captain America v7 #23.

^^^Thanks!

How old was Rogers?

This old:

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Why is Sharon Carter old now?

She was trapped in other dimension where time ran faster.