Luddendorf vs MCU Red Skull

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HulkIsHulk
Red skull takes Diana's place in confronting Luddendorf in the tower. Both are unarmed but can use anything around as weapons. Who wins?

HulkIsHulk
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TheVaultDweller
Red Skull is a better character, but Luddendorf should realistically win, if we scale them off TFA Cap and pre-awakened Diana.

HulkIsHulk
What if we scale him off Infinity War Cap?

TheVaultDweller
Even if we scale them stat-wise, IW Cap is also far more skilled and experienced than he was back then. You'd basically have to assign RS a bunch of stat and skill feats he hasn't, quite frankly, earned to scale him off current Steve. In which case you might as well just make a Luddendorf vs Cap thread.

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