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Racists emboldened as Trump pushes his agenda of dividing the people along racial lines.

Yes. Cause there has been NO "Racist" Activity in the rest of the world.


What else you got to pull out of your Lie Hole PootyButt?

Um, Oh look someone over there is also doing something very bad... Fly you really are retarded.

Charlottesville and Helsinki will define Trumps first two years in the history books.

Yes. Trump will have to deal with the Racial Divide that was created and widened by the Horrible Reign of Obama.

And is that "Something Very Bad" not just mindlessly Agreeing with Your Close Minded Totalitarian Dogmatic Beliefs?

Yeah I bet it is.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Racists emboldened as Trump pushes his agenda of dividing the people along racial lines.

You are correct...racists are being emboldened.

I mean, the New York Times hired a woman who was racist against whites. Then they defended it as just counter trolling.

So racism is indeed being emboldened, good thread

I also will point out: if Antifa shows up to the rally tomorrow in masks and with weapons and violence occurs, that is on them as much as it is on whoever they oppose.

What a terrible place America has become, I'll grant you, it was late to fight fascism... in the 40's but once in the fight, it fought hard. It was late to abolish slavery, but abolish it America did, it was late to give equal rights to blacks but it did... and it has the likes of you two. So sad. Not all Americans who voted for Trump are racist, but etc.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
What a terrible place America has become, I'll grant you, it was late to fight fascism... in the 40's but once in the fight, it fought hard. It was late to abolish slavery, but abolish it America did, it was late to give equal rights to blacks but it did... and it has the likes of you two. So sad. Not all Americans who voted for Trump are racist, but etc.

Indeed a terrible place. We have people so stupid they generalize others while at the same time whining when they and other groups are generalized.

It's awesome cuz they're hypocrites and it makes what they say irrelevant. But hey leftists gonna do what they do.

Yes. If only the Limp Wrist-ed No Balls Nations of France and Especially Great Britain had been able to Stand Up for themselves instead of NEEDING the U.S to Come in and Save them...AGAIN!

Next time the Fascists take over the Entirety of the EU I just say let them have it.

Yeah Fly, Germany would have got the bomb first and delivered it to the US first class with its Rocket tech. Oh, and Apollo would never have happened as Germany would have had bases on the moon and the US would have been a pile of dust. Good argument.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Racists emboldened as Trump pushes his agenda of dividing the people along racial lines.
In your opinion, what is Trump doing to divide he country along racial lines?

Originally posted by darthgoober
In your opinion, what is Trump doing to divide he country along racial lines?

They think everything Trump says is a dog whistle.

When I truly believe it is the democrats dividing us. Both sides can behave the same way but one side seems to get away with it more than the other.

And now major platforms like twitter are bias against conservatives. That's no small thing.

Tom Garrett GOP Lawmaker says racial hatred was fanned by the Ruskies...

After Helsinki, I know what Trump will say!

It's actually not just what Trump says but what he doesn't say that emboldens Racists.

"Good people in the Alt-right", "not saying the name of the person killed at Charlottesville for days", etc.

Neat! And I know leftists will just ignore anitfa and whine about nazis.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Tom Garrett GOP Lawmaker says racial hatred was fanned by the Ruskies...

After Helsinki, I know what Trump will say!

It's actually not just what Trump says but what he doesn't say that emboldens Racists.

"Good people in the Alt-right", "not saying the name of the person killed at Charlottesville for days", etc.
He just said that there were good people on both sides, not that there were good people in the alt right. It wasn't actually an alt right rally, it was an event that was already planned which the Nazis showed up at. Not all of the protesters were alt-right/Nazis, just as not all of the counter protesters were Antifa. As for the Nazis, he specifically denounced them in no uncertain terms.

Even if all that were untrue though, your statement would still be inaccurate. Not saying something isn't causing a racial divide. At most it's simply not preventing a divide that's developing independently of his actions. And honestly, that can be said of EVERYONE on both sides because the divide is there and no one's stopped it.

^history revision

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
^history revision
No, 'fraid not. But which part do you believe I got wrong?

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Yeah Fly, Germany would have got the bomb first and delivered it to the US first class with its Rocket tech. Oh, and Apollo would never have happened as Germany would have had bases on the moon and the US would have been a pile of dust. Good argument.

Probably if the Germans hadn't tried to Genocide all the Smart Science Jews. Thank God So many were able to Escape to the U.S. Thus INSURING that America got the Power of the BOMB and not use milk toast country like Yours.

Which can't wipe its own ass with out getting shit on its thumb.

So yeah.

SO it is YOU that DO NOT KNOW YOUR HISTORY!

But then You are Leftist Progressive so...Yer dumb as Shit.

Originally posted by darthgoober
He just said that there were good people on both sides, not that there were good people in the alt right. It wasn't actually an alt right rally, it was an event that was already planned which the Nazis showed up at. Not all of the protesters were alt-right/Nazis, just as not all of the counter protesters were Antifa. As for the Nazis, he specifically denounced them in no uncertain terms.

Even if all that were untrue though, your statement would still be inaccurate. Not saying something isn't causing a racial divide. At most it's simply not preventing a divide that's developing independently of his actions. And honestly, that can be said of EVERYONE on both sides because the divide is there and no one's stopped it.

Bingo, but some are too stupid to realize this. They just wanna scream "he called nazis fine people!"

I have never once heard a leftist whine that Trump called Antifa fine people. I wonder why?

Originally posted by darthgoober
He just said that there were good people on both sides, not that there were good people in the alt right. It wasn't actually an alt right rally, it was an event that was already planned which the Nazis showed up at. Not all of the protesters were alt-right/Nazis, just as not all of the counter protesters were Antifa. As for the Nazis, he specifically denounced them in no uncertain terms. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rallyThis was not a right-wing rally that was hijacked by neo-Nazis. This was an alt-right rally (organised by white supremacists Jason Kessler and Richard Spencer no less) protesting the removal of Confederate statue.

There is really no polite way to put this, you are lying.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rallyThis was not a right-wing rally that was hijacked by neo-Nazis. This was an alt-right rally (organised by white supremacists Jason Kessler and Richard Spencer no less) protesting the removal of Confederate statue.

There is really no polite way to put this, you are lying.

^^whoomp there it is^^

time for ad hominem deflection, silly whataboutism, and hurt fee-fees. eat

His point about the entire side not being nazis, etc. was correct.

It was indeed denounced by the Proud Boys as a nazi gathering. Though some showed up anyways(and got kicked out). I mention this only cuz they denounced the upcoming one and yet were banned from twitter. Probably over Charlottesville.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
^^whoomp there it is^^

time for ad hominem deflection, silly whataboutism, and hurt fee-fees. eat

Let me be the first:

I'd rank the shitstorm Charlottesville riots just under the 2015 Baltimore riots.

Where are we today? I'm not pleased with the enhanced voices of the galvanized right or left. The US isn't in a bad place but I do place alot of blame on social media and news outlets for marketing to clicks.

I think the best coverage of that event last year came from Vice news and the lady that did that piece was very brave.



Yeah, let's be honest. That event was a HUGE pile of dung. I think the govt should have pulled down the statues put them in a museum and been done with it. That rally to save the statue wreaked of racist intent to overt racism.

Originally posted by snowdragon
Let me be the first:

I'd rank the shitstorm Charlottesville riots just under the 2015 Baltimore riots.

Where are we today? I'm not pleased with the enhanced voices of the galvanized right or left. The US isn't in a bad place but I do place alot of blame on social media and news outlets for marketing to clicks.

I think the best coverage of that event last year came from Vice news and the lady that did that piece was very brave.

Speaking of Vice, Tim Pool(who used to work there and definitely isn't right wing) said there were even people there who didn't really do much research and showed up just in support of the statue. I dunno, it'd be weird for a left leaning reporter to lie about that.

Originally posted by Surtur
His point about the entire side not being nazis, etc. was correct.

It was indeed denounced by the Proud Boys as a nazi gathering. Though some showed up anyways(and got kicked out). I mention this only cuz they denounced the upcoming one and yet were banned from twitter. Probably over Charlottesville. His point was that it wasn't an alt-right rally, and that Nazis just "showed up". This is false and revisionist, plain and simple. That some non-white supremacist individuals might have attended out of ignorance (and yet stayed, lmfao) is neither here nor there.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
His point was that it wasn't an alt-right rally, and that Nazis just "showed up". This is false and revisionist, plain and simple. That some non-white supremacist individuals might have attended out of ignorance (and yet stayed, lmfao) is neither here nor there.

In the end, the fact is not everyone on one side was a nazi or white supremacist. Leftists need to stop using the "fine people" thing to try to attack Trump. But they won't lol.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rallyThis was not a right-wing rally that was hijacked by neo-Nazis. This was an alt-right rally (organised by white supremacists Jason Kessler and Richard Spencer no less) protesting the removal of Confederate statue.

There is really no polite way to put this, you are lying.
Wikipedia... really? Anyone can edit wikipedia, including those who label pretty much everyone they disagree with as "Alt Right Nazis".

Originally posted by Surtur
In the end, the fact is not everyone on one side was a nazi or white supremacist. Leftists need to stop using the "fine people" thing to try to attack Trump. But they won't lol. In the end, one side was predominately if not entirely comprised of nazis and white supremacists who themselves organised the rally, and the notion that "fine people" unassociated with the alt-righties did indeed attend on the far-right side in innocent naivety of what they were participating it is embarrassing tripe, and an unsurprising excuse from Trump's cock-sucking cultists.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
In the end, one side was predominately if not entirely comprised of nazis and white supremacists who themselves organised the rally, and the notion that "fine people" unassociated with the alt-righties did indeed attend on the far-right side in innocent naivety of what they were participating it is embarrassing tripe, and an unsurprising excuse from Trump's cock-sucking cultists.

Lol in the end leftists are foaming at the mouth in their search for nazis everywhere. Any excuse to whine about racism, etc.

Like Vox claiming 11 million white americans think like the alt right. At first the number was higher, like 20+ million, but then they had to edit it. You've all lost your minds.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Wikipedia... really? Anyone can edit wikipedia, including those who label pretty much everyone they disagree with as "Alt Right Nazis".

you're right. he should have sited wiki's sources. allow me:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/us/charlottesville-protest-white-nationalist.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/21/us/jason-kessler-white-nationalist-rally.html

it was organized by a white nationalist. now dance around that and cope

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
you're right. he should have sited wiki's sources. allow me:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/us/charlottesville-protest-white-nationalist.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/21/us/jason-kessler-white-nationalist-rally.html

it was organized by a white nationalist. now dance around that and cope

Hmm, well the guy who organized it should apply for a job at the NYT then. They love racists.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Wikipedia... really? Anyone can edit wikipedia, including those who label pretty much everyone they disagree with as "Alt Riht Nazis". Yeah, it's almost as if they have the receipts. Here's a poster for the rally with a list of speakers:

https://www.politicalresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/unitetheright6-600x777.jpg

FYI, all the speakers are known white supremacists and alt-righters.

Here is a Tweet from Jason Kessler, the white supremacist who organised the rally:

https://www.politicalresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/unitetheright5.png

Here's another poster from the white supremacist group Identity Evropa promoting the rally.

https://www.politicalresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/unitetheright3-600x929.jpg

And look, here's David f*cking Duke, Grand High Wizard-in-Chief of the KKK, advertising and promoting the white supremacist rally:

https://www.politicalresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/davidduketweet.jpg

But continue to embarrass yourself further by claiming this was anything but a white-supremacist rally.

Originally posted by Surtur
Hmm, well the guy who organized it should apply for a job at the NYT then. They love racists.

clever deflection, pinocchio. how's the job hunt coming along, btw?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
you're right. he should have sited wiki's sources. allow me:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/us/charlottesville-protest-white-nationalist.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/21/us/jason-kessler-white-nationalist-rally.html

it was organized by a white nationalist. now dance around that and cope Wikipedia has already (as it always does) cited its sources. gooby only needed to click the link provided, but that would involve being proven wrong.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
clever deflection, pinocchio. how's the job hunt coming along, btw?

No deflection, just an observation given the NYT is reporting on it. They should love nazis.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Wikipedia has already (as it always does) cited its sources. gooby only needed to click the link provided, but that would involve being proven wrong.

alt-righties and their apologists are too lazy to check the source footnotes so they call it fake news. best to just circumvent that clownshow and post the source, imho.

Originally posted by Surtur
Lol in the end leftists are foaming at the mouth in their search for nazis everywhere. Any excuse to whine about racism, etc.

Like Vox claiming 11 million white americans think like the alt right. At first the number was higher, like 20+ million, but then they had to edit it. You've all lost your minds. deflection and whataboutery, give up

Originally posted by Beniboybling
deflection and whataboutery, give up

It's too late to whine about whataboutery. Anything else?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
alt-righties and their apologists are too lazy to check the source footnotes so they call it fake news. best to just circumvent that clownshow and post the source, imho. True, intellectual dishonesty is the name of the game here.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
you're right. he should have sited wiki's sources. allow me:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/us/charlottesville-protest-white-nationalist.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/21/us/jason-kessler-white-nationalist-rally.html

it was organized by a white nationalist. now dance around that and cope
The article never said anything anything about the protests initial organizers. It DID say that Kesser was one of several Alt Right organizers, but that doesn't mean that the protest originally started with them. After all, the leaders of the Alt Right that showed up obviously organized their own groups for attendance, which makes them co-organizers. By the same token, there were Antifa organizers to the counter protest who rallied their members and rounded up buses, but that doesn't mean that Antifa were the ones responsible for the counter protest.

Originally posted by darthgoober
The article never said anything anything about the protests initial organizers. It DID say that Kesser was one of several Alt Right organizers, but that doesn't mean that the protest originally started with them. After all, the leaders of the Alt Right that showed up obviously organized their own groups for attendance, which makes them co-organizers. By the same token, there were Antifa organizers to the counter protest who rallied there members and rounded up buses, but that doesn't mean that Antifa were the ones responsible for the counter protest.

more deliberate lies and deflection. i'm just going to ignore your phaggotry now.

I predict in fact you won't ignore him and will respond to him again. Or you'll just continue to go back and forth with Benny about him.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
more deliberate lies and deflection. i'm just going to ignore your phaggotry now.
Hey your free to believe what you want regardless of logic or the absence of supporting evidence, that's on you. Go right ahead and plug your ears while screaming "NO! NO! NO!" if it'll help you sleep tonight...hakuna matata

On May 8, 2018, Kessler filed an application for a permit for the rally with the National Park Service (NPS), under the name White Civil Rights Rally.

The NPS also approved permits for counter-demonstrations filed by New York Black Lives Matter, Inc.; Thomas Oh; Metro DC Democratic Socialists of America or D.C. United Against Hate; the ANSWER Coalition; the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund. Up to 1,500 counter-demonstrators are expected to gather at Lafayette Square, McPherson Square, and Freedom Plaza.

I see this ending with rational minds and discourse! Oh look the rally is happening today!

Originally posted by snowdragon
On May 8, 2018, Kessler filed an application for a permit for the rally with the National Park Service (NPS), under the name White Civil Rights Rally.

The NPS also approved permits for counter-demonstrations filed by New York Black Lives Matter, Inc.; Thomas Oh; Metro DC Democratic Socialists of America or D.C. United Against Hate; the ANSWER Coalition; the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund. Up to 1,500 counter-demonstrators are expected to gather at Lafayette Square, McPherson Square, and Freedom Plaza.

I see this ending with rational minds and discourse! Oh look the rally is happening today! so it is...

Originally posted by darthgoober
See, now that's better, that's a lot better. Once he filed for the permits it most certainly became an Alt Right rally. It still doesn't mean that the protest originated from the Alt Right(the counter protesters didn't have any permit at all, which demonstrates that plenty of people in that area were unaware of the need for such things), but it does support the technical classification of the event. However, if there were still non Alt Right people who were at the people at the protest it means that Trump is in the clear in regards to noting that there were good people on that side since he'd already clearly denounced the racists within that group.

Also I never denied that second hand smoke was a thing, it was simply the effects of second hand smoke that were in dispute. Please, spare me.

It was apparent as an alt-right rally from the beginning, just as it was apparent that the vast majority of those involved were of the neo-nazi, white supremacist type. The fact that you only come to admit this now merely reflects on the sheer extent of your unwillingness to accept proof that conflicts with your worldview, and yes, your denial of the hazardous effects of second-hand smoking attests to that.

The extent of your argument so far has consisted of a string of baseless claims unsubstantiated by anything whatsoever, alongside equally flaky attempts to undermine the evidence actually provided, if you bothered to address it at all. Deliberately dishonest actors like yourself are not worth my time, and until you can put forward some actual proof, don't expect any more responses from me.

Originally posted by snowdragon
On May 8, 2018, Kessler filed an application for a permit for the rally with the National Park Service (NPS), under the name White Civil Rights Rally.

The NPS also approved permits for counter-demonstrations filed by New York Black Lives Matter, Inc.; Thomas Oh; Metro DC Democratic Socialists of America or D.C. United Against Hate; the ANSWER Coalition; the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund. Up to 1,500 counter-demonstrators are expected to gather at Lafayette Square, McPherson Square, and Freedom Plaza.

I see this ending with rational minds and discourse! Oh look the rally is happening today! Can't wait.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Please, spare me.

It was apparent as an alt-right rally from the beginning, just as it was apparent that the vast majority of those involved were of the neo-nazi, white supremacist type. The fact that you only come to admit this now merely reflects on the sheer extent of your unwillingness to accept proof that conflicts with your worldview, and yes, your denial of the hazardous effects of second-hand smoking attests to that.

The extent of your argument so far has consisted of a string of baseless claims unsubstantiated by anything whatsoever, alongside equally flaky attempts to undermine the evidence actually provided, if you bothered to address it at all. Deliberately dishonest actors like yourself are not worth my time, and until you can put forward some actual proof, don't expect any more responses from me.
I disagree, it was in no way apparent from the beginning to be an Alt Right event because a groups presence at an event isn't enough to support that claim. A large group of Nazis showing up to a baseball game doesn't make it a "Nazi Baseball Game" even if the Nazis outnumber the non Nazi fans. It's only a Nazi baseball game if the Nazis were the ones who were responsible for putting the whole thing together. And I give those on the left the same level of consideration. I don't consider protests where Anfia show up to be "Antifa events" unless there's some kind of proof that the protest originated from Antifa and wouldn't exist at all independently of Antifa organizing.

Now as for my initial claims, they came from testimonies on social media and youtube that people had planned to protest and were then surprised when the Nazis and KKK showed up. And as for my "accusations"... well, I haven't made any against anyone.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
so it is...
Of course there will be violence. AntiFa is going to be there.
The Left is a very Violent Group of People.

The DC white-power rally had very few attendees, lolz. The ones that showed up were wearing masks/hiding their identity.

Anti-racist showed up in force to peacefully protest these clowns.

All-in-all, Cult of Trump flopped this time.

Originally posted by Robtard
The ones that showed up were wearing masks/hiding their identity.



Yes just like so many thugs that protest or "anti-protest" and know what they are doing is shit and don't want to let their actions be known publicly. Kinda like another clown group that needs to get squashed publicly too.

Originally posted by Robtard
The DC white-power rally had very few attendees, lolz. The ones that showed up were wearing masks/hiding their identity.

Anti-racist showed up in force to peacefully protest these clowns.

All-in-all, Cult of Trump flopped this time. Yeah, 20-30 alt-righters compared to 1000s of counter protestors. 'spect all the non-racists who turned up at the last protest in error didn't show up this time.

Either way, good to see racists second-guessing themselves again.

Glad to see a lack of alt-right people this year. Their delusion that they were in any way a powerful political force is laid bare for all to see.

Originally posted by Robtard
The DC white-power rally had very few attendees, lolz. The ones that showed up were wearing masks/hiding their identity.

Anti-racist showed up in force to peacefully protest these clowns.

All-in-all, Cult of Trump flopped this time.

So the mask wearers were the Antifa crowd then I take it?

And Robbie sounds sad that there wren't more racist there.

Just the Antifa Nazis. The Real Threat to this world.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Glad to see a lack of alt-right people this year. Their delusion that they were in any way a powerful political force is laid bare for all to see.


What I love about this is that Antifa just once again exposed their true colors. You think these people, who totally are against fascism, went home once they realized there weren't many nazis to punch?

Ha no. They just turned their ire towards others and attacked reporters and cops. I love it. I don't love people being attacked, but I do love Antifa showing people they don't truly care about nazis, they just wanna act like violent little shits. Nazis are what they target cuz they figure most people won't give a shit.

And hey, how can they be wrong? That one teacher who cracked a guy over the skull with a metal bike lock got...no jail time, just 3 years probation. For cracking a dude over the skull with a metal bike lock. And pretty sure the guy they hit wasn't even a nazi. So why would they ever feel they'd face consequences for attacking people they deem nazis?

But hey surely CNN, MSNBC, Washington Post, NYT, will all denounce this. After all...they've been SUPER concerned about how the media is treated recently.

I expect this will be a major story. In fact, I'm gonna go on CNN right now to see.

Weird, nothing on the front page of CNN. Oh there is a story about the event, but it's just gushing about how the counter protesters outnumbered the nazis.

Well obviously if I just search the CNN site for "antifa" it will come up and....ah, no...nothing. Well, MSNBC will be different.

Just kidding! It's not.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
So the mask wearers were the Antifa crowd then I take it?

And Robbie sounds sad that there wren't more racist there.

Just the Antifa Nazis. The Real Threat to this world.



There were some anti protesters that wore masks and such nearly all of the white civil rights rally wore masks.

Originally posted by snowdragon
There were some anti protesters that wore masks and such nearly all of the white civil rights rally wore masks.

They had antifa, in masks, whining about being filmed lol.

You can't make this stuff up. "But you're wearing a mask" is literally what one person says as antifa tries to aggressively get them to stop filming.

Note: same group that advised it's members, ahead of this rally, to always be filming lol. Comedy gold. Plus the whole "without any nazis around they turned on reporters and cops".

Originally posted by Surtur
They had antifa, in masks, whining about being filmed lol.

You can't make this stuff up. "But you're wearing a mask" is literally what one person says as antifa tries to aggressively get them to stop filming.

Note: same group that advised it's members, ahead of this rally, to always be filming lol. Comedy gold. Plus the whole "without any nazis around they turned on reporters and cops".

I already said on the other page that masked protesters need to go, I don't mean make it illegal but realize that when they wear that gear they expect violence and most of them are looking to engage on both sides.

They get to use the crowd to lose their identity and compound that with gear that specifically covers up who they are (which depending on the crowd ironically makes them stand out more but prevents them from getting plugged on social media/news.)

Yeah this is why I was hesitant to gush over the counterprotesters, because I had my doubts that they were as morally pure and virtuous as Beni said they were. Being against the alt-right doesn't make you virtuous if you're against them for the wrong reasons...

But holy shit, they attacked cops and reporters? Damn lol.

Originally posted by snowdragon
I already said on the other page that masked protesters need to go, I don't mean make it illegal but realize that when they wear that gear they expect violence and most of them are looking to engage on both sides.

They get to use the crowd to lose their identity and compound that with gear that specifically covers up who they are (which depending on the crowd ironically makes them stand out more but prevents them from getting plugged on social media/news.)

Wearing masks like this at protests should be illegal and I think it already is in a bunch of places. You should not be allowed anonymity to commit crimes.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yeah this is why I was hesitant to gush over the counterprotesters, because I had my doubts that they were as morally pure and virtuous as Beni said they were. Being against the alt-right doesn't make you virtuous if you're against them for the wrong reasons...

But holy shit, they attacked cops and reporters? Damn lol. When did I say anything of the sort.

Originally posted by Surtur
Wearing masks like this at protests should be illegal and I think it already is in a bunch of places. You should not be allowed anonymity to commit crimes.

Lets be clear they weren't beating the shit out of reporters, but shoving them, stealing their shit and throwing it to the ground. Happened to NBC

And with cops they were shoving and hitting cops trying to arrest other members, and the cops kinda hold back you can see.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/08/12/video-violent-antifa-protesters-physically-attack-nbc-reporter-and-his-cameraman

Weird part is NBC just claimed they were "heckled" lol. I dunno. Sounds like it goes beyond heckling when it gets physical and destruction is involved.

Antifa didn't wanna push the cops too far.

Wait also we had chants of "all cops are racist you better face it" and "cops and the klan go hand in hand".

Just charming. Not at all radicalized.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
When did I say anything of the sort.
Apologies, I misread this:
Originally posted by Beniboybling
'spect all the non-racists who turned up at the last protest in error didn't show up this time.
as "respect to all the non-racists who showed up to protest them"

Honest mistake.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Apologies, I misread this:

as "respect to all the non-racists who showed up to protest them"

Honest mistake.

You know who else would do it on purpose and blame it on an honest mistake?


HITLER!!!

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Yeah, 20-30 alt-righters compared to 1000s of counter protestors. 'spect all the non-racists who turned up at the last protest in error didn't show up this time.

Either way, good to see racists second-guessing themselves again.

Yup, thousands of peaceful protestors and guess who the Cult of Trump insist on focusing on? The very few retards who showed up to start shit with the racist.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yup, thousands of peaceful protestors and guess who the Cult of Trump insist on focusing on? The very few retards who showed up to start shit with the racist.

Were those the same "PEACEFUL PROTESTERS" that hurled Fire Works and Molatoff Cocktails at Police? Oh and also the same "PEACEFUL PROTESTERS" that also ATTACKED the Media?

Those Protesters?

Robbie. You are a Lying Delusional Bastard.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yup, thousands of peaceful protestors and guess who the Cult of Trump insist on focusing on? The very few retards who showed up to start shit with the racist. Exactly, deflection and exaggeration to prevent people looking too closely at what they actually are, the Alt-right.

So, people shouldn't focus on the ones committing violence?

Yes. Otherwise people would put a stop to Antifa. That would not make the Left happy.

Originally posted by Silent Master
So, people shouldn't focus on the ones committing violence? I think people did focus on that, you know the Alt-rightist driving the car and the Alt-rightist nutjobs who empowered him. But you know... Alt-right apologisers...

Originally posted by Putinbot1
I think people did focus on that,

Some did indeed focus on Antifa attacking cops and journalists. Others, whiny commie apologists like you, tried to ignore what they did to whine about the alt right.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
I think people did focus on that, you know the Alt-rightist driving the car and the Alt-rightist nutjobs who empowered him. But you know... Alt-right apologisers...

So the alt-right are the only ones to commit violence?

Originally posted by Silent Master
So the alt-right are the only ones to commit violence?

The response will be that the alt right has killed people and Antifa has not.

And you know tomorrow if Antifa killed someone it would change to "well they've only killed one, not as many as the neo nazis".

That and Antifa calls for Violence on all of the Social Media Platforms as well but unlike the "Alt Right" They Never Get Called Out On It!

Ahhh The Smell of Leftist Hypocrisy!

But Antifa still hasn't killed anyone yet... Alt-right, not so little blood on their hands.

So we have to wait until people die before calling out violence?

Originally posted by Silent Master
So we have to wait until people die before calling out violence? Yes, yes, you enjoy defending the Alt-right who you sympathise with by arguing apples and oranges.

Where did I defend the Alt-right?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Where did I defend the Alt-right? Your argument Anifa are equally culpable for attack as the murderer of Charlottesville and the alt-right organisers, which is the deflection you are defending and what the thread is about, you know Charlottesville and the alt-right a year on, any mention of Antifa is a deflection in this thread from Alt-right sympathisers like you, Fly and Surt. The usual deflectors of criticism to Trump and the alt-right with your usual but what about Antifa tactic.

Remember, Pbot1, not-murder and murder, there's virtually no difference when you're painting with deflection paint and using a flat equalization brush.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Your argument Anifa are equally culpable for attack as the murderer of Charlottesville and the alt-right organisers, which is the deflection you are defending and what the thread is about, you know Charlottesville and the alt-right a year on, any mention of Antifa is a deflection in this thread from Alt-right sympathisers like you, Fly and Surt. The usual deflectors of criticism to Trump and the alt-right with your usual but what about Antifa tactic.

If that was actually my argument, you should have no trouble providing a quote where I state that Antifa is "equally culpable for attack as the murderer of Charlottesville and the alt-right organisers"

What? He mentioned two of KMC's Most Prominent and elite posters....How much more do you need?

Originally posted by Silent Master
If that was actually my argument, you should have no trouble providing a quote where I state that Antifa is "equally culpable for attack as the murderer of Charlottesville and the alt-right organisers" No, because you post using questions and negatives like, do people have to commit murder to be criticised. Which is a deflection from a group where people who have committed murder in it. And comparing them to a group where people have committed murder equally. Alt-right have murderers, Antifa doesn't. Apples and Oranges my Alt-right neo-nazi sympathiser.

Originally posted by Robtard
Remember, Pbot1, not-murder and murder, there's virtually no difference when you're painting with deflection paint and using a flat equalization brush. B-ingo!

I've stated multiple times that the Alt-right are much worse and have actually murdered people, some people just get upset that I don't harp on them 100% of the time and have the audacity to point out that other people have committed lesser acts of violence.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I've stated multiple times that the Alt-right are much worse and have actually murdered people, some people just get upset that I don't harp on them 100% of the time and have the audacity to point out that other people have committed lesser acts of violence. When murderers commit violence against groups, groups have a tendency to become militant and fight back. Particularly when authorities are not trusted and the amount of Police Violence against Blacks etc in the states is insane. Trumpers may not like to hear it but it is what it is. And it shows them up as what they are.

Bingo.

Like Black communities arming themselves as a means to fight back against the KKK and their terrorist campaign of beatings, rapes, lynchings etc.

White man walking around in a flag shirt with an M4 strapped to his back = Patriot.

Black guy walking around with baggy pants and a glock in his pants = thug.

@Backfire and Rob exactly, but I'll take it further the demonisation of the radical youth.

Young people, particularly young girls feel strongly about things like animals. the earth and human rights. SJW's are nothing new, they are how some young girls behave, often insecure geeky ones as they try and find their place in the world.

The constant Alt-right mockery of them and the threats of rape these kids get on Twitter etc is completely disproportionate to being Vegan, feminist and wearing dungarees and spouting ludicrous shit nobody over 21 and normal gives a shit about because they are too busy trying to live in the world of work with responsibilities that soon take over from that shit.

The Alt-rights infatuation with these kids is just... ****ing weird.

Originally posted by BackFire
White man walking around in a flag shirt with an M4 strapped to his back = Patriot.

Black guy walking around with baggy pants and a glock in his pants = thug.

I'd actually describe the white guy in that example as a moron.

Jesus are you guys building an army of strawmen? Just don't use it for evil.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'd actually describe the white guy in that example as a moron. **** me, so would I, not often we agree.

Most people would call the guy a moron and the thug a thug.

EDIT: Though the thugs are the ones that tend to shoot little kids in the face.

Why are we not assuming that the thug is also a moron?

You guys are all racist.

Originally posted by BackFire
Why are we not assuming that the thug is also a moron?

You guys are all racist.

We can call him a moronic thug.

Unless he pulls a gun on a cop and gets shot, in which then he's a victim.

Originally posted by BackFire
Why are we not assuming that the thug is also a moron?

You guys are all racist. Haha, he is also a moron BF, good call, made me laugh.

Originally posted by Surtur
Most people would call the guy a moron and the thug a thug.

EDIT: Though the thugs are the ones that tend to shoot little kids in the face.

No, those are called cops.

Watch out guys, don't cut yourselves on my edge. It's super sharp.

Originally posted by BackFire
No, those are called cops.

Watch out guys, don't cut yourselves on my edge. It's super sharp.

Damn that shit is so edgy even James Gunn recoiled!

Gonna get myself fired from Disney if I'm not careful.

If only you had not attended that "Cop Killer" themed party.

Ice-T is light skinned enough where the blackface was just in poor taste.

Originally posted by BackFire
Why are we not assuming that the thug is also a moron?

You guys are all racist.

He was already being insulted with the label thug, didn't see the point in adding a second insult.

That's why your roasting will always be second rate.

Though I STILL don't understand why CNN would say Antifa is perceived as being a black organization. How? Where? When? Yes they WEAR black lol. They are not perceived to be black people though.

Is there a difference between clothes and skin color, though? I mean, is there really?

Originally posted by Robtard
Remember, Pbot1, not-murder and murder, there's virtually no difference when you're painting with deflection paint and using a flat equalization brush.

Would that woman have died if Antifa peeps hadn't organized a counter-protest, encouraged people to bring implements of violence, and antagonized - multiple times and with violence - the original Alt-Righter protestors?


As I've stated before, the antifa people who called for counter-protests and to take up arms should be charged with incitement to violence. Don't take my word for it, there is already legal precedence for this: Brandenburg v. Ohio.


Antifa does NOT pass the Brandenburg test for the Charlotsville, and multiple other counter protests, because of the organization to violence on social media. And before some antifa apologists try to whitewash what antifa did, they were calling people to arms before the events happened. Multiple days, not just one or two. The excuse, "oh, the alt-righter racists brought weapons so antifa brought weapons" is a lie. The Antifa peeps were calling for violence long before the protests and counter-protests began.



This is not apples to oranges. This is apples to apples: violence to violence. One of the alt-right people took it much too far beyond the too far it already was and killed someone.




Putinbot amd Robtard, steer clear of the misplaced and obviously dishonest self-righteous "apples to oranges" violence comparison. That's not a narrative that is factually supportable. If you wish to hold people accountable, hold the moron who murderd accountable and hold the antifa counter protesters accountable for criminal incitement to violence. Just because they were not correctly charged and prosecuted does not mean they did not break the law. There is plenty of evidence to charge several antifa organizers and commentors. Screenshots were taken and it got plenty of news coverage. It's a political issue which is why they haven't been charged.

Bit of a strawman DDDM people should be allowed to counter-demonstrate without fear of having cars driven into them. Violence is violence and murder is murder. One is an Apple the other isn't.

Originally posted by BackFire
That's why your roasting will always be second rate.

You may have a point.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Bit of a strawman DDDM people should be allowed to counter-demonstrate without fear of having cars driven into them. Violence is violence and murder is murder. One is an Apple the other isn't.

I don't believe DDM is arguing that all counter protesting should not be allowed wholesale, merely that calls to violence masquerading as a peaceful protest, which is what he's saying Antifa did here, should be prosecuted.

Originally posted by BackFire
I don't believe DDM is arguing that all counter protesting should not be allowed wholesale, merely that calls to violence masquerading as a peaceful protest, which is what he's saying Antifa did here, should be prosecuted. Demonstrations will always degenerate into violence where people hold strong beliefs, I don't think in recent US history you have had anything like the miner's strike of the 80's we had in the UK. That said people didn't kill each other, although the Police did use horseback charges. Apart from your usual white teenage lone shooters and your often black gangsta thugs you are quite a mild people. That's all going to change with Trump as groups become marginalised and bigotry becomes ever more acceptable and people will confront this. They will rarely murder, the bigots of the Alt-right just follow in the footsteps of their many predecessors like the KKK. I'm not saying violence is right or there shouldn't be consequences but when you have a system that is corrupt and a murderous enemy. It is understandable.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Would that woman have died if Antifa peeps hadn't organized a counter-protest, encouraged people to bring implements of violence, and antagonized - multiple times and with violence - the original Alt-Righter protestors?


As I've stated before, the antifa people who called for counter-protests and to take up arms should be charged with incitement to violence. Don't take my word for it, there is already legal precedence for this: Brandenburg v. Ohio.


Antifa does NOT pass the Brandenburg test for the Charlotsville, and multiple other counter protests, because of the organization to violence on social media. And before some antifa apologists try to whitewash what antifa did, they were calling people to arms before the events happened. Multiple days, not just one or two. The excuse, "oh, the alt-righter racists brought weapons so antifa brought weapons" is a lie. The Antifa peeps were calling for violence long before the protests and counter-protests began.



This is not apples to oranges. This is apples to apples: violence to violence. One of the alt-right people took it much too far beyond the too far it already was and killed someone.




Putinbot amd Robtard, steer clear of the misplaced and obviously dishonest self-righteous "apples to oranges" violence comparison. That's not a narrative that is factually supportable. If you wish to hold people accountable, hold the moron who murderd accountable and hold the antifa counter protesters accountable for criminal incitement to violence. Just because they were not correctly charged and prosecuted does not mean they did not break the law. There is plenty of evidence to charge several antifa organizers and commentors. Screenshots were taken and it got plenty of news coverage. It's a political issue which is why they haven't been charged.

F*cking bingo, f*cking ownage, and I can't wait to see how they spin this shit.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Demonstrations will always degenerate into violence where people hold strong beliefs, I don't think in recent US history you have had anything like the miner's strike of the 80's we had in the UK. That said people didn't kill each other, although the Police did use horseback charges. Apart from your usual white teenage lone shooters and your often black gangsta thugs you are quite a mild people. That's all going to change with Trump as groups become marginalised and bigotry becomes ever more acceptable and people will confront this. They will rarely murder, the bigots of the Alt-right just follow in the footsteps of their many predecessors like the KKK. I'm not saying violence is right or there shouldn't be consequences but when you have a system that is corrupt and a murderous enemy. It is understandable.

Antifa, still aren't killers much as some people would like to pretend they are, violence is violence and murder is murder, apples and oranges.

Yeah you got owned something fierce and you won't be able to salvage it so I wouldn't even bother trying.

Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah you got owned something fierce and you won't be able to salvage it so I wouldn't even bother trying. In your mind and probably your little pals, in anybody else, not so much. But keep hanging on to DDDM's tails he's a bright guy who you clearly look up to. Surt belongs on the cuuuck bus.
The cuck bus!

Originally posted by Putinbot1
In your mind and probably your little pals, in anybody else, not so much. But keep hanging on to DDDM's tails he's a bright guy who you clearly look up to. Surt belongs on the cuuuck bus.
The cuck bus!

LOL! You're so triggered over DDM slapping you down. All you can do is spit out the same shit you always spew. It's hilarious.

And bro: anyone who is intelligent and not a bias piece of shit knows you got owned. That is the best part

Originally posted by Surtur
LOL! You're so triggered over DDM slapping you down. All you can do is spit out the same shit you always spew. It's hilarious.

And bro: anyone who is intelligent and not a bias piece of shit knows you got owned. That is the best part Surt the monkey in his Bigot tree grasping at any branch to save his fall. funny stuff!

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Surt the monkey in his Bigot tree grasping at any branch to save his fall. funny stuff!

Geez, and to think you used to be somewhat entertaining. What happened? Is this the malaria?

Originally posted by Surtur
Geez, and to think you used to be somewhat entertaining. What happened? Is this the malaria? Don't worry, the cuck bus will be along for you in a minute.

My advice to you is stay away from trying to debate DDM in the future, you get destroyed. Stick to those too lazy to properly debate you...you always do well with those

Ummm, loving how you are trying to build a difference in opinion into something else. Grasping for branches in the bigot tree, Surt lunges for a branch, falls and gets hit by the cuck bus.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Ummm, loving how you are trying to build a difference in opinion into something else. Grasping for branches in the bigot tree, Surt lunges for a branch, falls and gets hit by the cuck bus.

Loving your coping. Keep it up, I'm sure one of your pals will throw you a bone sooner or later

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Bit of a strawman DDDM

Are you saying the point you make next is a strawman?

Originally posted by Putinbot1
...people should be allowed to counter-demonstrate without fear of having cars driven into them.

I guess so. This would be a strawman of my point. Criminal incitement to violence is not "counter-protesting." Which was the point I was making.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Violence is violence and murder is murder. One is an Apple the other isn't.

Since the DoJ and the FBI include them both under "violence", you're word game is noted but rejected.

Originally posted by BackFire
I don't believe DDM is arguing that all counter protesting should not be allowed wholesale, merely that calls to violence masquerading as a peaceful protest, which is what he's saying Antifa did here, should be prosecuted.

Correct.

And the police are at least partially culpable for not getting ahead of the activities in Charlottesville that lead to escalating violence. There was enough evidence for many days before events happened that they could have separated out the protesters, much like local law enforcement does with Westboro Baptist church people, to prevent escalating violence.

Well, I see that my words turned into an argument between Whirly and Surtur for one-up games and I did not intend for that to happen. I did not intend to one-up anyone. I just wanted to draw attention to the idea that it is not as simple as "one side murdered and the other did not."

Originally posted by dadudemon
Well, I see that my words turned into an argument between Whirly and Surtur for one-up games and I did not intend for that to happen. I did not intend to one-up anyone. I just wanted to draw attention to the idea that it is not as simple as "one side murdered and the other did not."

Which was basically my point as well, that you shouldn't have to wait until a group murder's someone before calling out their violence, I was then accused of defending the alt-right.


Seems like if you don't agree with certain people, you're either a Nazi or someone that defends them.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Would that woman have died if Antifa peeps hadn't organized a counter-protest, encouraged people to bring implements of violence, and antagonized - multiple times and with violence - the original Alt-Righter protestors?


As I've stated before, the antifa people who called for counter-protests and to take up arms should be charged with incitement to violence. Don't take my word for it, there is already legal precedence for this: Brandenburg v. Ohio.


Antifa does NOT pass the Brandenburg test for the Charlotsville, and multiple other counter protests, because of the organization to violence on social media. And before some antifa apologists try to whitewash what antifa did, they were calling people to arms before the events happened. Multiple days, not just one or two. The excuse, "oh, the alt-righter racists brought weapons so antifa brought weapons" is a lie. The Antifa peeps were calling for violence long before the protests and counter-protests began.

This is not apples to oranges. This is apples to apples: violence to violence. One of the alt-right people took it much too far beyond the too far it already was and killed someone.

Putinbot amd Robtard, steer clear of the misplaced and obviously dishonest self-righteous "apples to oranges" violence comparison. That's not a narrative that is factually supportable. If you wish to hold people accountable, hold the moron who murderd accountable and hold the antifa counter protesters accountable for criminal incitement to violence. Just because they were not correctly charged and prosecuted does not mean they did not break the law. There is plenty of evidence to charge several antifa organizers and commentors. Screenshots were taken and it got plenty of news coverage. It's a political issue which is why they haven't been charged.

Possibly not, possibly yes. Unless we have the Time stone where we can see alternate realities, who ultimately knows. I'll touch on this below.

I agree with much of all you say, but (and correct me if I read you wrong here) you seem to be phrasing it like it was a peaceful rally until the people opposing the Alt-Right/Nazis/Supremacist showed up and started shit, when we have video proof of some of the Alt-Right/Nazis/Supremacist attending this rally specifically to cause violence. eg Chris Cantwell, the total bad-ass Nazi who later cried about going to jail was outright claiming that he works out and trains in order to better cause violence and he was ready to both kill and in need die for his cause. That doesn't necessarily tell me that their intentions were peaceful until Antifa or whoever started it. So if we're mass blanketing people for the Heather Heyer attack, then it's more than just the driver of the car and Antifa. It's the masses of Alt-Right too.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Well, I see that my words turned into an argument between Whirly and Surtur for one-up games and I did not intend for that to happen. I did not intend to one-up anyone. I just wanted to draw attention to the idea that it is not as simple as "one side murdered and the other did not."

I don't think you intended to own him. It was just a hilarious side effect.

And yes it's not as simple. Antifa has no murders to their name due to luck, not due to them being not very violent.

The other difference is the leniency they are given by the left versus how lenient the right is with people like Richard Spencer.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Well, I see that my words turned into an argument between Whirly and Surtur for one-up games and I did not intend for that to happen. I did not intend to one-up anyone. I just wanted to draw attention to the idea that it is not as simple as "one side murdered and the other did not." it is as simple as violence begets violence. When you have the rhetoric of bigotry and Nazi ideology is endorsed on high, bigots become empowered they feel unchallenged and drive cars into people. The group who feels marginalised will respond with rhetoric and violence of their own. It is likely though as they come from a stronger moral base their members will commit less truly heinous acts.

People who haven't seen this will never understand. I saw it in Northern Ireland first hand. Violence begets violence and Trump in empowering bigots has done just this.

As for Surt he'll latch on to anything he thinks that supports his world view. Right Good, left bad. White good other races bad. Which I know was not your point.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
it is as simple as violence begets violence. When you have the rhetoric of bigotry and Nazi ideology is endorsed on high, bigots become empowered they feel unchallenged and drive cars into people. The group who feels marginalised will respond with rhetoric and violence of their own. It is likely though as they come from a stronger moral base their members will commit less truly heinous acts.

People who haven't seen this will never understand. I saw it in Northern Ireland first hand. Violence begets violence and trump in empowering bigots.


I cannot disagree with anything in this post and I think you're right on every point.

So it's the nazis fault antifa are violent pieces of shit? Lol no.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
it is as simple as violence begets violence. When you have the rhetoric of bigotry and Nazi ideology is endorsed on high, bigots become empowered they feel unchallenged and drive cars into people. The group who feels marginalised will respond with rhetoric and violence of their own. It is likely though as they come from a stronger moral base their members will commit less truly heinous acts.

People who haven't seen this will never understand. I saw it in Northern Ireland first hand. Violence begets violence and trump in empowering bigots.

EnHBkKvZJIk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnHBkKvZJIk

Originally posted by Surtur
So it's the nazis fault antifa are violent pieces of shit? Lol no.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

Originally posted by dadudemon
I cannot disagree with anything in this post and I think you're right on every point. I wasn't disagreeing with the points you made either to be honest mate.

Originally posted by Robtard
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

Just stating facts. This is less "evil begets evil" and more "evil draws in other evil to it".

Originally posted by Surtur
Just stating facts. This is less "evil begets evil" and more "evil draws in other evil to it".

Meh

Originally posted by Robtard
Possibly not, possibly yes. Unless we have the Time stone where we can see alternate realities, who ultimately knows. I'll touch on this below.

I agree with much of all you say, but (and correct me if I read you wrong here) you seem to be phrasing it like it was a peaceful rally until the people opposing the Alt-Right/Nazis/Supremacist showed up and started shit, when we have video proof of some of the Alt-Right/Nazis/Supremacist attending this rally specifically to cause violence. eg Chris Cantwell, the total bad-ass Nazi who later cried about going to jail was outright claiming that he works out and trains in order to better cause violence and he was ready to both kill and in need die for his cause. That doesn't necessarily tell me that their intentions were peaceful until Antifa or whoever started it. So if we're mass blanketing people for the Heather Heyer attack, then it's more than just the driver of the car and Antifa. It's the masses of Alt-Right too.


You're right about the timeline. We need a crystal ball to see who started this violence participation thing. Who was the first to declare, publicly, that they were going to knock heads at the protests? My money would be on the antifa peeps turning this into a direct violence thing. But, as Whirly pointed out, the Neo-Nazi's are, at their core, espousing violent ideas. However, alt-righters and Neo-Nazis organizing protests does not mean they were ever going to be violent.

I don't know who started the violence calls in the social media rallying.

Originally posted by Robtard
Meh

Key differences. Evil begets evil implies one evil gave birth to it's opposition. Implies some hand in it's creation at the very least.

Nazis didn't give birth to communists lol.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You're right about the timeline. We need a crystal ball to see who started this violence participation thing. Who was the first to declare, publicly, that they were going to knock heads at the protests? My money would be on the antifa peeps turning this into a direct violence thing. But, as Whirly pointed out, the Neo-Nazi's are, at their core, espousing violent ideas. However, alt-righters and Neo-Nazis organizing protests does not mean they were ever going to be violent.

I don't know who started the violence calls in the social media rallying.

I ultimately don't know. But you march around Seig Heiling, yelling incendiary and violent rhetoric, doesn't really tell me you're there to peacefully rally.

Originally posted by Surtur
Key differences. Evil begets evil implies one evil gave birth to it's opposition. Implies some hand in it's creation at the very least.

Nazis didn't give birth to communists lol.

My post was mostly just film humor. Pbot's "violence begets violence" was accurate and fine.

Originally posted by Robtard
My post was mostly just film humor. Pbot's "violence begets violence" was accurate and fine.

It really wasn't that accurate, but opinion noted.

Originally posted by Robtard
I ultimately don't know. But you march around Seig Heiling, yelling incendiary and violent rhetoric, doesn't really tell me you're there to peacefully rally.

They could have screamed your mom is a pig a doesn't matter, one thing that has been shown consistently since that bs right wing rally is the left WANTS to use violence.

Don't be intellectually dishonest in discussions involving violence and pretend one side is the victim.



Woops to late, it seems as though you do believe there should be violence.

Originally posted by snowdragon
They could have screamed your mom is a pig a doesn't matter, one thing that has been shown consistently since that bs right wing rally is the left WANTS to use violence.

Don't be intellectually dishonest in discussions involving violence and pretend one side is the victim.



Woops to late, it seems as though you do believe there should be violence.

Also I want to point out people who are truly alt right are happy whenever the left gets violent. They WANT them to resort to violence, but the other side is too dumb to realize this.

The other huge problem is one side claims the enemy is "nazis" while at the same time they have stretched the definition of what a "nazi" is to encompass basically just anyone they dislike.

To these people black Proud Boys are nazis or KKK members. Candace Owens is a white supremacist, somehow.