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Fight takes place in the Rockies.

Would this be a close fight?

That Zombie was freaking insanely powerful. Wonder if his weakening ability would work on Doomsday.

"Abombination" vin

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
"Abombination" vin

Whoops. Was in a rush at work bruh.

Doomsday. Who has scans of zombie Abomination?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Doomsday. Who has scans of zombie Abomination?

He beat up on the Avengers and a weakened Hulk. He was also dishing out some kind of radiation that was weakening everyone. They had to use prep and bfr him to Jupiter for the win.

Originally posted by carver9
He heat up on the Avengers and a weakened Hulk. He was also dishing out some kind of radiation that was weakening everyone. They had to use prep and bfr him to Jupiter for the win.

Yeah! Because that would totally work on DD right? And DD killed a serious Superman.

When did I say it would work on Doomsday? Heck, did I even say who would win this?

Originally posted by carver9
He beat up on the Avengers and a weakened Hulk. He was also dishing out some kind of radiation that was weakening everyone. They had to use prep and bfr him to Jupiter for the win.
Nice. Doomsday.

So it wouldn't even be close?

He does ok.

? Can I get issue numbers for this incarnation Carver.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
? Can I get issue numbers for this incarnation Carver.

I forget the issue number myself, but it happened around the time that Bruce was shot in the head. Anyway, this version of the Abomination rolled on the Hulk and the Avengers.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
? Can I get issue numbers for this incarnation Carver.

Hulk #3 and 4. Waid's run, started in 2014.

I think we can all agree DC >>> Marvel.

This I learned from Carver

Originally posted by SquallX
Yeah! Because that would totally work on DD right? And DD killed a serious Superman.
Why wouldnt it?
And DD killed a seriously STUPID Superman, who decided to go it alone, and forgot what BFR is.

Originally posted by riv6672
Why wouldnt it?
And DD killed a seriously STUPID Superman, who decided to go it alone, and forgot what BFR is.

Actually, Superman went with the League combined, and they all were taken out.

They've all been taken out!

https://s5.postimg.cc/ujulxztoz/RCO056_1465184922.jpg

All of them together:
https://s5.postimg.cc/3ys32f46b/RCO060_1465184922.jpg

https://s5.postimg.cc/mecjztq0j/RCO061_w_1465184922.jpg

Going in simultaneously:

https://s5.postimg.cc/3m0ow91c3/RCO065_1465184922.jpg

He also tried BFR, but that didn't work ....

First time:
https://s5.postimg.cc/vyw6mozwz/RCO105_1465184922.jpg

Second time:
https://s5.postimg.cc/ap8kbvm77/RCO116_w_1465184922.jpg

Is that the furthest he can throw Doomsday? Hope not.

Was hoping for this. Wasn't mistaken.

He was extremely tired by that point. Am sure you knew that

Edit: that was to Carv, btw. Interesting how no body picked up on him attempting BFR by pushing him into space, though. Curious!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Was hoping for this. Wasn't mistaken.

He was extremely tired by that point. Am sure you knew that

Edit: that was to Carv, btw. Interesting how no body picked up on him attempting BFR by pushing him into space, though. Curious!

Oh, it wasnt towards me.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Was hoping for this. Wasn't mistaken.

He was extremely tired by that point. Am sure you knew that

Edit: that was to Carv, btw. Interesting how no body picked up on him attempting BFR by pushing him into space, though. Curious!

Even at half power, throwing a ton out of orbit should be child's play. That's an excuse. Especially if you factor in how strong an elite Herald should be. If Rhino can punch someone out of orbit, a fatigued Superman should be able to achieve the same results, easily.

Why push him into something when you have enough speed to grab him by the arm, foot, or head and toss him in there. Yes, Doomsday is fast for his size but let's not pretend like he have anywhere close to Superman speed fts. I think they just ignored power levels to make the story interesting.

@JL King,

I feel confident everyone read the story. So I'm guessing you also think Superman cant throw a ton out of space? Share your thoughts.

Originally posted by riv6672
Oh, it wasnt towards me.

Nah. I saw you had posted almost at the same time as I did, but the sequence made it look like I was responding to you.

Even if they HAD put every single hero, would it have mattered? One would have had to dig out some pretty haxx powerset to deal with DD, I feel.

Strength obv wasn't working (you have the premier poster boy for strength on the scene). Speed wasn't going to cut it (the writers made sure to make it abundantly clear how fast DD was). Energy attacks were obviously tried, and all it did was make him more dangerous. TP maybe? I think Dubbilex tried that and he was just cast out (or maybe that was a diff storyline). Physical BFR obv didn't work, I don't know if DD even has a soul, so I guess one would have to Dimension BFR him. Magic also didn't work iirc, if Bloodwynd was meant to be magical (or was he meant to be J'onn?)

Incidentally, dimensional BFR is exactly what Batman came up with to defeat DD, to the Phantom Zone, so other avenues of attack obv weren't working.

Rhino punching someone out of orbit...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111225835/6302924-1.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111225835/6302923-2.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
Even at half power, throwing a ton out of orbit should be child's play. That's an excuse. Especially if you factor in how strong an elite Herald should be. If Rhino can punch someone out of orbit, a fatigued Superman should be able to achieve the same results, easily.

Why push him into something when you have enough speed to grab him by the arm, foot, or head and toss him in there. Yes, Doomsday is fast for his size but let's not pretend like he have anywhere close to Superman speed fts. I think they just ignored power levels to make the story interesting.

He wasn't at half power though. He was so exhausted he couldn't even fly, lol.

https://s5.postimg.cc/erzlas8k3/RCO111_1465184922.jpg

That's like....pretty tired. He couldn't even LIFT HIS OWN WEIGHT. That's how exhausted he was by fighting Doomsday

Are you sure you've read the story?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He wasn't at half power though. He was so exhausted he couldn't even fly, lol.

https://s5.postimg.cc/erzlas8k3/RCO111_1465184922.jpg

That's like....pretty tired. He couldn't even LIFT HIS OWN WEIGHT. That's how exhausted he was by fighting Doomsday

Are you sure you've read the story?

But in the same scene he withstood a full out kick from Doomsday.

Also, the scene you posted where he threw Doomsday, lol, he FLEW after him.

Are you sure you're comprehending what's going on in the book your posting?

Originally posted by carver9
But in the same scene he withstood a full out kick from Doomsday.

Also, the scene you posted where he threw Doomsday, lol, he FLEW after him.

Are you sure you're comprehending what's going on in the book your posting?

Yes, lol.

Superman was exhausted. A couple of pages after throwing DD, he was so drained he couldn't even fly to save himself.

Your post said 'even at half strength', when in fact, he was way below half strength. Even his most basic of powers was gone a couple of pages later.

And don't forget: whilst this was happening, DD was still as fast, strong and durable as ever.

Where did you get half strength from? Were you just plucking that number out of thin air to boost your argument?

Hey Carver! Want to nitpick!? Call me the next time Hulk is getting his ass kicked by a villain, he chooses to BFR them!

Tbf to Superman, like Riv said, he was pretty dumb....

https://s5.postimg.cc/57fyo3tkj/RCO108_1465184922.jpg

I must be getting punchy!

Doomsday was hitting him so hard and he was draining so rapidly, he was actually getting punch drunk, lol. Hard to come up with clever battle plans when one is punch drunk, I reckon.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Tbf to Superman, like Riv said, he was pretty dumb....

https://s5.postimg.cc/57fyo3tkj/RCO108_1465184922.jpg

I must be getting punchy!

Doomsday was hitting him so hard and he was draining so rapidly, he was actually getting punch drunk, lol. Hard to come up with clever battle plans when one is punch drunk, I reckon.

Plot made him fight like a dummy. He could have thrown him into outer space at the start.

agreed, although like they say, hindsight is 20/20.

Glad we came to an agreement that Superman could've bfred Doomsday.

.

Wait, didn't someone say he was as fast as flash?

This is the very first interaction Superman had with DD:

https://s5.postimg.cc/ujulxztoz/RCO056_1465184922.jpg

What he should've done is used his 'benching the earth for five days' level of strength, and pushed the Earth into the sun

Great talk as always, Carver.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
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Wait, didn't someone say he was as fast as flash?
Booster Gold did. But back then Flash was well below lightspeed and to Booster all attacks that are too fast for the human eye look the exact same lol

FASTER than Flash, you noobs

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-013d3a3e527a854749673610598b5217

Originally posted by darthgoober
Booster Gold did. But back then Flash was well below lightspeed and to Booster all attacks that are too fast for the human eye look the exact same lol

Booster is from the future sneer

Something tells me "Zombie" Abom wouldn't fail to kill a normal human with 4 strikes...

am surprised Carver hasn't brought that up.

But then he probably knows it's another piece of evidence that writers ignore power levels in favour of sexy fights *shrug*

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Booster is from the future sneer
From an alternate future obviously. If he were aware of DD due to future knowledge he would have told the JL what was up with him from the get go and wouldn't have emptied his power reserves

But one where he knows the Flash and his capabilities

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Something tells me "Zombie" Abom wouldn't fail to kill a normal human with 4 strikes...

He failed to kill Guy as well who didnt have his shields up...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EavY4x91duw/TpKa5EqHQGI/AAAAAAAAGVQ/-mvbg0-K050/s800/4%252520Doomsday%252520and%252520Death%25252002.jpg

Darksaint would have a field day on scenes like this if it was a marvel character.

Originally posted by carver9
He failed to kill Guy as well who didnt have his shields up...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EavY4x91duw/TpKa5EqHQGI/AAAAAAAAGVQ/-mvbg0-K050/s800/4%252520Doomsday%252520and%252520Death%25252002.jpg

Darksaint would have a field day on scenes like this if it was a marvel character.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
am surprised Carver hasn't brought that up.

But then he probably knows it's another piece of evidence that writers ignore power levels in favour of sexy fights *shrug*

Told ya

I thought GL's had auto shields to prevent fatal accidents. I know none was shown in that scan but that would explain why Guy didn't die on the first punch.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Told ya

Hey, not my fault the characters in that story was displayed as weaklings. Even Diana said the JLA was weak sauce...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/63715/1249324-doomswar042.jpg

Originally posted by Faceless808
I thought GL's had auto shields to prevent fatal accidents. I know none was shown in that scan but that would explain why Guy didn't die on the first punch.

The proof is on you. Provide that proof.

Originally posted by carver9
Hey, not my fault the characters in that story was displayed as weaklings. Even Diana said the JLA was weak sauce...



She said they were weaker, not that they were weaksauce

But glad you agree with me. Writers DO ignore power levels in order to write sexy fights.

That's why Beast can last more than a panel with WWH. Why Batman hangs with GoW WW, without his Batsuit. Why Blue Beetle isn't turned into a puff of red mist. Why Catwoman can tag Flash.

And why Cheetah can tag Superman All you're doing is proving me right.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But one where he knows the Flash and his capabilities
It would still look/feel the same to Booster's human level perceptions.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
She said they were weaker, not that they were weaksauce

But glad you agree with me. Writers DO ignore power levels in order to write sexy fights.

That's why Beast can last more than a panel with WWH. Why Batman hangs with GoW WW, without his Batsuit. Why Blue Beetle isn't turned into a puff of red mist. Why Catwoman can tag Flash.

And why Cheetah can tag Superman All you're doing is proving me right.
Don't you argue against WWH being stronger based upon Wolverine and the rest though? I mean if that's simply another instance of you using Carver's logic against him than that's fine, but the whole "writers want sexy fights" thing should apply to Hulk too if you genuinely believe he wasn't a lot stronger than ever before as was repeatedly stated throughout the story.

Originally posted by Faceless808
I thought GL's had auto shields to prevent fatal accidents. I know none was shown in that scan but that would explain why Guy didn't die on the first punch.

And what excuse you will find for Booster?

His suit had no power left and his forcefield was gone, all stated on panel.

Translevel obviously

Darksaint even argues the Thing vs WWH showing against Hulk.

Well...

Thing was said to be growing stronger with age, under Millar's pen. So that version of Grimm was technically > all past versions (sans the ones with crazy amps, like No-Thing or perhaps the Pineapple incarnation).

And Hulk was in a terrible shape when he fought him.

Originally posted by carver9
The proof is on you. Provide that proof.


Relax yourself, Carver. You prove the BS you say and I might provide proof myself.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And what excuse you will find for Booster?

His suit had no power left and his forcefield was gone, all stated on panel.

Why would I have to make an excuse for Booster? I didn't make a claim, it was more like a question. Jeez, you guys get all hot and bothered by every little thing.....

Originally posted by Faceless808
Why would I have to make an excuse for Booster? I didn't make a claim, it was more like a question. Jeez, you guys get all hot and bothered by every little thing.....

No, relax. We're not all raging bulls. You're on the Internet, don't trust your feelings.

DoS DD hit vulnerable Booster at least 3-4 times, kinda the same shit that happened to Guy.

Sure, using rl logic, any of those strikes should've completely pulverized them, but... y'know, magic of comics prevents that from happening.

Besides. DD was beating the hell out of SM, does it make sense that he can't kill Booster or Guy with a punch? Maybe it does to you but not to me.

It doesn't have to make sense. Comics, bro.

Remember Super Titan Gladiator...?

Vs. Superman:

http://www.mundosuperman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/08-666x1024.jpg

Vs. Batman:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-aH3bAZNhDiM/U4tIGre9MWI/AAAAAAAAYtc/ZQw_PCzr2s8/s1600/17.jpg

Originally posted by Faceless808
Besides. DD was beating the hell out of SM, does it make sense that he can't kill Booster or Guy with a punch? Maybe it does to you but not to me.

In the same book, this version of Superman was koed by an exploding gas station so beating up on the Superman in this book isnt that impressive....

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111146317/3687404-5129287298-35052.jpg

I'm enjoying Darksaint way of debating. Thanks Saint.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It doesn't have to make sense. Comics, bro.

Remember Super Titan Gladiator...?

Vs. Superman:

http://www.mundosuperman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/08-666x1024.jpg

Vs. Batman:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-aH3bAZNhDiM/U4tIGre9MWI/AAAAAAAAYtc/ZQw_PCzr2s8/s1600/17.jpg

Forgot all about this.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Don't you argue against WWH being stronger based upon Wolverine and the rest though? I mean if that's simply another instance of you using Carver's logic against him than that's fine, but the whole "writers want sexy fights" thing should apply to Hulk too if you genuinely believe he wasn't a lot stronger than ever before as was repeatedly stated throughout the story.

Erm....it IS another instance lol.

It's funny that Carver genuinely doesn't see this.....

I bring them up tight every time Carver bleats on about 'we don't ignore showings'. 'we take averages' (his words).

So not sure why Stilt and Carver are having a love in, lol.

Not lately, no.
Its not really worth it. Much more fun to watch you guys do it, poke the bear here and there.