Agen Kolar vs. TCW Grievous

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carthage
Canon Grievous as of Son of Dathomir

Legends Agen

Sabers only

Who wins

TheNuisanceBird
Honestly if it's SOD Grievous he has a pretty good chance.

CuckedCurry
Agen murks cuz canon Grievous sucks

Underachiever59
Canon Grievous defeated Eeth Koth, Adi Gallia, Ahsoka, Obi-Wan on more than one occassion, and contended with Kit Fisto, Maul and Asajj Ventress. What has Legends Agen Kolar done again? Beaten Quinlan Vos that one time? Pretty sure canon Grievous is more impressice

TheIndyJedi
Grievous

victreebelvictr
Originally posted by TheIndyJedi
Grievous agreed.

Trocity
Originally posted by Underachiever59
Canon Grievous defeated Eeth Koth, Adi Gallia, Ahsoka, Obi-Wan on more than one occassion, and contended with Kit Fisto, Maul and Asajj Ventress. What has Legends Agen Kolar done again? Beaten Quinlan Vos that one time? Pretty sure canon Grievous is more impressice

He also tk'd blasters out of people's hands, what's Grievous' best TK feat?

MythLord
Agen demolishing Quinlan Vos in a few moves and being reportedly one of the best swordsmen ever is a better feat than anything TCW Grievous is packing, barring possibly his frequent duels with Kenobi.

He wins, also on the basis of the EU having a much better and more consistent base of speed and strength to scale from.

Underachiever59
Originally posted by Trocity
He also tk'd blasters out of people's hands, what's Grievous' best TK feat?

So is your argument that Force users auto-win against non-Force users? Because Grievous in both Legends a d Canon disprove that.

Sure, Grievous can't use TK, but we've seen him not only contend with, but consistently defeat Counsel-level Jedi time and time again. Yet you would argue that a mostly feat-less Agen Kolar would win purely because Kolar once pulled some blasters out of the hands of random no-name criminals?

Grievous is the obvious winner here, Canon or Legends. There's always the fringe possibility that Kolar could defeat him with the Force, but Grievous has proven to be sturdy enough to tank Force pushes from many of the most powerful Jedi out there, and clever enough to immediately shift tactics when a Jedi begins to use the Force. He's also far more willing to utilize underhanded tactics to defeat an enemy than a typical Jedi would be. For example, when he killed Kit Fisto's apprentice by bladelocking him with two hands, and shooting him with a third. I just don't picture Kolar coming out on top here.

victreebelvictr
Originally posted by Underachiever59
So is your argument that Force users auto-win against non-Force users? Because Grievous in both Legends a d Canon disprove that.

Sure, Grievous can't use TK, but we've seen him not only contend with, but consistently defeat Counsel-level Jedi time and time again. Yet you would argue that a mostly feat-less Agen Kolar would win purely because Kolar once pulled some blasters out of the hands of random no-name criminals?

Grievous is the obvious winner here, Canon or Legends. There's always the fringe possibility that Kolar could defeat him with the Force, but Grievous has proven to be sturdy enough to tank Force pushes from many of the most powerful Jedi out there, and clever enough to immediately shift tactics when a Jedi begins to use the Force. He's also far more willing to utilize underhanded tactics to defeat an enemy than a typical Jedi would be. For example, when he killed Kit Fisto's apprentice by bladelocking him with two hands, and shooting him with a third. I just don't picture Kolar coming out on top here. he also stops his victim from using the force by using quick lightsaber movements keeping them occupied. Amazing response by the way.

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