Titan 7 vs. Thor w/ Stormbreaker

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FrothByte
The same team that fought Thanos on Titan:

Ironman
Dr. Strange (no time gem)
Iron spider
Mantis
Starlord
Draxx
Nebula


Except this time they're fighting a fully powered Thor w/ Stormbreaker. Fight takes place on Titan. Who wins?

steverules_2
Thor > Thanos with a fully powered gauntlet > Titan 7

Thor wins

quanchi112

Josh_Alexander
With a good plan they should be able to take out Thor.

Also, without Strange's BFR being amped there is nothing Thor can do. Strange is above Thor's league.

John Murdoch
The Titan 7 had a (somewhat) coordinated plan of attack and couldn't take down Thanos.

Thor outright overpowered the full infinity gauntlet and stuck the axe side of Stormbreaker into Thanos' chest.

So 1 guy who stomped Thanos vs 7 who didn't best Thanos.

Without a boat load of prep for the 7, I don't think this needs to be discussed further.

quanchi112
Context you moron eludes you. Your bias is showing by the way.

FrothByte
Btw just to be clear, no prep for this fight.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by John Murdoch
The Titan 7 had a (somewhat) coordinated plan of attack and couldn't take down Thanos.

Thor outright overpowered the full infinity gauntlet and stuck the axe side of Stormbreaker into Thanos' chest.

So 1 guy who stomped Thanos vs 7 who didn't best Thanos.

Without a boat load of prep for the 7, I don't think this needs to be discussed further.

A good reminder would be to consider the fact that Star Lord stick outside the plan due to emotional factors.

The team had Thanos at bay. Ofcourse, Strange mentioned they had only 1 chance of beating Thanos, which could imply them losing nevertheless but the fact is they were winning until SL ****ed up.

Another reminder, Thor surprised Thanos.

Darth Thor
^ Thanos would have won regardless. Strange made that clear.

Hulk also got a hit on Thanos by surprise. So clearly wouldnt matter when confronting an inferior opponent.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Thanos would have won regardless. Strange made that clear.

Hulk also got a hit on Thanos by surprise. So clearly wouldnt matter when confronting an inferior opponent.

And yet Thanos had an IG with 4 universal class weapons. Thor doesnt.

Also it would be good to consider the fact that Thanos is way more intellectual than Odinson.

Khazra Reborn
A major thing to consider before comparing Thor to Thanos though, is flight. A big part of Thor's fighting style is flying, so that would limit the usefulness of everyone but Tony and strange, and I guess sorta Starlord, but he wouldn't be doing much regardless.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
And yet Thanos had an IG with 4 universal class weapons. Thor doesnt.



Didnt stop Thor from impaling him.

quanchi112

Surtur
Never understood why Thanos didn't just stop time and then kill Thor.

quanchi112

Surtur

Darth Thor
Lol Hulk got the drop on him as well. So what?

Fact is Thor had the power to blast through his Energy blast and impale Thanos.

End of.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by Surtur
Never understood why Thanos didn't just stop time and then kill Thor.


Thors attack was probably too fast for him.

Surtur
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Thors attack was probably too fast for him.

There was a short beam struggle kinda, so he had time.

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You can see the moment he realizes it isn't working...he could have just frozen time.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Thanos would have won regardless. Strange made that clear.

Hulk also got a hit on Thanos by surprise. So clearly wouldnt matter when confronting an inferior opponent.

The Titan 7 also attacked Thanos by surprise.

quanchi112

Darth Thor
^ To stop Thor killing him Lol

Surtur

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Didnt stop Thor from impaling him.

Should Thanos have had enough time to react i assure you things would have been much differently.

We are gonna find out in Av 4 i guess.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Lol Hulk got the drop on him as well. So what?

Fact is Thor had the power to blast through his Energy blast and impale Thanos.

End of. Hulk did not have a weapon capable of killing him. That is the difference. Thor got the drop on Thanos earlier as well. Without the weapon despite the first shot he was easily dealt with. Your disingenuous bs is nauseating.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Surtur
Well Thor could have potentially prevented that.

Could have chopped off his head or his arm. Thanos responded by snapping meaning he had time to react after. So no your speculation is stupid. Facts are facts they do not change for you, Trumper.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ To stop Thor killing him Lol He resisted the attempt. Thor failed. Utterly. Despite the weapon powerful to do so. Thanos won. Thor and the heroes lost.

Robtard
Thor would take it, lighting spams would take out the grounded people. Strange would be difficult to take out, but since he's not using the Time stone as he didn't in the original fight, Thor would end him as well. Likely via thrown axe that Strange would try to block with a shield and that shield would fail to the might of Stormbreaker

quanchi112

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Robtard
Thor would take it, lighting spams would take out the grounded people. Strange would be difficult to take out, but since he's not using the Time stone as he didn't in the original fight, Thor would end him as well. Likely via thrown axe that Strange would try to block with a shield and that shield would fail to the might of Stormbreaker

He throws the axe and Strange locks it in the mirror dimension. wink

Surtur
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos responded by snapping meaning he had time to react after. So no your speculation is stupid. Facts are facts they do not change for you, Trumper.

He responded to Thor's dumb mistake with a snap yes.

Robtard
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
He throws the axe and Strange locks it in the mirror dimension. wink

Pft, you think that trick is going to work on the weapon that was able to tear through the universal-god-level rainbow-blast of all six Infinity Stones?

Surtur
Groots lifeforce added to the weapon.

Robtard
Another Groot is going to grow out of Strombreaker with Stormbreaker powers. They just have to wait like 4-5 years.

Surtur
Groot seeds were planted into Thanos when he got stabbed.

One day Groot is just gonna explode forth from his chest.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Robtard
Pft, you think that trick is going to work on the weapon that was able to tear through the universal-god-level rainbow-blast of all six Infinity Stones?

Yeah!.... Why wouldnt it?

FrothByte
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Yeah!.... Why wouldnt it?

Probably because Strange tried to launch the mirror dimension at Thanos and Thanos easily disrupted it with a 4-stone gauntlet... which is 2 stones less than the blast Stormbreaker overpowered.

Robtard
Originally posted by FrothByte
Probably because Strange tried to launch the mirror dimension at Thanos and Thanos easily disrupted it with a 4-stone gauntlet... which is 2 stones less than the blast Stormbreaker overpowered.

^ That

Also not sure Thanos used all four Stones to counter the Mirror attack. Think it was the Power (purple) and Reality (red) stones. I'd have to watch that scene again to be sure.

Robtard
Originally posted by Surtur
Groot seeds were planted into Thanos when he got stabbed.

One day Groot is just gonna explode forth from his chest.

If you have said "nuts" instead of "seeds", you would have had something there

Rage.Of.Olympus
He used the space stone/power stone IIRC. He also used the soul stone/power stone to defeat Strange's stone jutsu.

This is tough, the team can win, as Thor isn't as versatile as Thanos, but Stormbreaker is a one-shot kill, and Thor no longer needs his hammer to summon lightning from himself passively or from the sky. That makes him MUCH more dangerous imo. This for example, renders attacks like Mantis' mind-whammy or any close-proximity attacks like the Spider-Man portal attacks fatal mistakes. They're getting zapped just getting-in close.

The BiFrost is also potentially very dangerous if used as a weapon. I'd love to see him use it in combat. It can take you anywhere and is a forceful teleportation that easily penetrated Wakanda's energy shield. If he can begin spamming that like an energy attack from his hammer....

Nibedicus
Thanos was jobbed heavily in that fight IMO. He could have ended it by simply turning them into paper (like he did the Guardians on Knowhere). Was needed since they wanted to make it a decent fight.

If Thor jobs like Thanos did and the Titan 7 fights smart, then yeah he can lose. But if he fights smart (like he would in a forum fight), he'd one shot most of the team with a lightning smash. IM would hold out a bit longer (def tank the lightning smash) but a single direct axe strike would easily pierce the armor and maim him pretty bad. Strange is the only question mark here but his best weapon (BFR) is negated by the axe's Bifrost ability and he doesn't have enough power showings even remotely equal to Thor and his durability may as well be nonexistent in this fight, if Thor hits him, he drops. Maybe if he separates Thor from the Axe mid-throw?

FrothByte
Originally posted by Surtur
Never understood why Thanos didn't just stop time and then kill Thor.

The time gem seems to need a second or two of prep before it activates. That's always how it has been portrayed when Dr. Strange was using it (at least IIRC) and even when Thanos used it on Vision there was a delay from activating it to it actually working. Probably makes it hard to use right in the middle of an attack.

Robtard
The Power and Space stone combo was used to rip chunks from the surface of the moon and then teleport those chunks into the atmosphere, that I'm sure of. Not sure about the rest, could swear I saw purple and red flash when he countered the Mirror attack. Either way, Thanos used less to counter Strange's attacks than what Stormbreaker casually powered through, the full might of a complete gauntlet.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by FrothByte
Probably because Strange tried to launch the mirror dimension at Thanos and Thanos easily disrupted it with a 4-stone gauntlet... which is 2 stones less than the blast Stormbreaker overpowered.

Fallacy rejected! Thanos had the space and reality stones which enable him to counter the Mirror Dimension.

SB can't disrupt reality!

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Surtur
Never understood why Thanos didn't just stop time and then kill Thor.

There is no indication that Thanos even knew Thor had SB or knew SB's capabilities.

Also, there's the fact that Thanos thought a laser beam would be able o vaporize the thing Thor launched at him.

Furthermore, you need to consider that 1. Thor suprised Thanos 2. The scene is very short, and left Thanos very little time to react far worse to analyze the situation.

Robtard
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Fallacy rejected! Thanos had the space and reality stones which enable him to counter the Mirror Dimension.

SB can't disrupt reality!

When Thanos used all six Stones in his rainbow blast to try and stop Stormbreaker, that would also include both the Space and Reality stones. Think and then type, okay.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Robtard
When Thanos used all six Stones in his rainbow blast to try and stop Stormbreaker, that would also include both the Space and Reality stones. Think and then type, okay.

laughing out loud

Thanos used an Energy attack from this gems, he wasn't disrupting space or reality. That's why you see a beam of rainbow light, not a portal or SB turning into butterflies.

So, no, SB won't make it out of the Mirror Dimension.

Josh_Alexander
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FrothByte
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
laughing out loud

Thanos used an Energy attack from this gems, he wasn't disrupting space or reality. That's why you see a beam of rainbow light, not a portal or SB turning into butterflies.

So, no, SB won't make it out of the Mirror Dimension.

Neither did he open portals or make butterflies when he disrupted the mirror dimension.

Robtard
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
laughing out loud

Thanos used an Energy attack from this gems, he wasn't disrupting space or reality. That's why you see a beam of rainbow light, not a portal or SB turning into butterflies.

So, no, SB won't make it out of the Mirror Dimension.

Thanos took apart the Mirror attack view an energy attack from the guantlet, ergo, your point is pointless again. Strombreaker destroys.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Neither did he open portals or make butterflies when he disrupted the mirror dimension.

^ /that

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by FrothByte
Neither did he open portals or make butterflies when he disrupted the mirror dimension.

And? He used the reality and space stone to do so!

Is SB the reality and space stone? No, therefore whatever you just tried to say is rebuked.

Also, the fact that SB withstood an attack from the IG doesn't mean that SB can replicate the things the IG can do!

So SB isn't warping reality nor coming out of that Mirror Dimension.

Originally posted by Robtard
Thanos took apart the Mirror attack view an energy attack from the guantlet, ergo, your point is pointless again. Strombreaker destroys.



^ /that

Have you watched the movie Rob? Cause if you had, you would realize he punched through the mirror dimension with the space and reality stones active! He never used a beam/laser type of attack.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Surtur
He responded to Thor's dumb mistake with a snap yes. So your nonsense is speculation whereas I go by the facts. Coulda woulda debaters are the worst.

Robtard
@josh Um, punching the barrier apart while using the stones is an energy attack, as the stone's powers are energy based, unless you think Thanos did it with just the gauntlet and the stones played no role? Think and then type, okay?

FrothByte
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
And? He used the reality and space stone to do so!

Is SB the reality and space stone? No, therefore whatever you just tried to say is rebuked.

Also, the fact that SB withstood an attack from the IG doesn't mean that SB can replicate the things the IG can do!

So SB isn't warping reality nor coming out of that Mirror Dimension.



Have you watched the movie Rob? Cause if you had, you would realize he punched through the mirror dimension with the space and reality stones active! He never used a beam/laser type of attack.

You're applying a double standard here. In Thanos' attack against Thor, you claim that he doesn't use any spatial or reality-warping attacks because there are no portals or butterflies or any similar exotic powers visually seen.

Yet for some reason you want to claim that these were used when Thanos punched the mirror dimension despite none of these being visible as well.

You can't have it both ways.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Robtard
@josh Um, punching the barrier apart while using the stones is an energy attack, as the stone's powers are energy based, unless you think Thanos did it with just the gauntlet and the stones played no role? Think and then type, okay?

Lol. I guess the point is that they arent the same attacks ergo, SB never warped reality.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by FrothByte
You're applying a double standard here. In Thanos' attack against Thor, you claim that he doesn't use any spatial or reality-warping attacks because there are no portals or butterflies or any similar exotic powers visually seen.

Yet for some reason you want to claim that these were used when Thanos punched the mirror dimension despite none of these being visible as well.

You can't have it both ways.

Double standards? They are completely different ways of implementing the stones, ergo different in nature! They shouldnt/must not be taken as equals!

Having said that, the fact that SB broke through an attack from the reality stone doesnt mean it warped reality nor that it defeated the Reality Stone.

It just means it defeated that attack. Now the nature of the attack remains unknown. Based on the physical manifestation of the attack, it seems to be an energy projection like the ones Hydra extracted from the Tesseract or the ones Loki used to shoot from the Mind stone.

In other words, no, SB isnt a reallity warping weapon. It has shown no such properties.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by quanchi112
So your nonsense is speculation whereas I go by the facts. Coulda woulda debaters are the worst.


Nope, not speculation.

Russos confirmed if Thor hit his head it would have become a Thor film - obviously because Thor would have killed Thanos.

quanchi112

Robtard
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Lol. I guess the point is that they arent the same attacks ergo, SB never warped reality.

Repeat: Thanos didn't "warp reality" to counter the Mirror attack, he punched it with a couple of the stones charged/lite up. So your point is pointless again.

Strombreaker which is strong enough to casually counter the combined might of all six stones would smash right through the Mirror attack as well.

Using the Reality stone to warp reality was Thanos making Knowhere appear not destroyed, turning Draxx into blocks, the Collector appear alive, fire into whatever those flying things were etc.

Robtard
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Nope, not speculation.

Russos confirmed if Thor hit his head it would have become a Thor film - obviously because Thor would have killed Thanos.

Don't even have to go to the director commentary, Thanos confirmed that when he said "you should have gone for the head", meaning he was aware that Thor would have insta-killed him, had he aimed a foot or two higher.

Inhuman
Originally posted by FrothByte
The Titan 7 also attacked Thanos by surprise.

Just putting it out there that when Thanos was not taken by surprise attacks like when it came to Earth in Wakanda, he pretty much swatted everybody away in his path with little effort.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Robtard
Repeat: Thanos didn't "warp reality" to counter the Mirror attack, he punched it with a couple of the stones charged/lite up. So your point is pointless again.

Strombreaker which is strong enough to casually counter the combined might of all six stones would smash right through the Mirror attack as well.

Using the Reality stone to warp reality was Thanos making Knowhere appear not destroyed, turning Draxx into blocks, the Collector appear alive, fire into whatever those flying things were etc.

To break the mirror dimention you need to be able to warp reality. Thanos punched the spell with the Reality stone active ergo he warped reality.

A laser which nature is unknown doesnt necessary warp reality.

Fallacy rejected.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
To break the mirror dimention you need to be able to warp reality. Thanos punched the spell with the Reality stone active ergo he warped reality.

A laser which nature is unknown doesnt necessary warp reality.

Fallacy rejected.

The problem with this is that it's all simply your theory. There is no factual evidence to back this up. There is no proof that Thanos warped reality to counter the mirror dimension. Heck, we can't even be sure that the reality stone was lit up when he punched it. You know how the mvf works: Either you post feats to back up your theory or it didn't happen.

Robtard
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
To break the mirror dimention you need to be able to warp reality. Thanos punched the spell with the Reality stone active ergo he warped reality.

A laser which nature is unknown doesnt necessary warp reality.

Fallacy rejected.

You're just making shit up again. There was no indication that reality was warped when he punched the Mirror attack. When reality is warped, we have multiple examples and clearly see it happening. eg Mantis unraveling, fire turning into those flying creatures etc

Stormbreaker already countered the power of the Reality stone though, along with the other five and all at the same time. Mirror attack wouldn't pose a threat to its might. You have no argument to counter this and you're finished.

Ps
dwkCXNxtdFM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwkCXNxtdFM

Marker 01:51, Thanos uses the Power stone (purple) to break the Mirror attack. You lied again, Josh. You're a liar.

Putinbot1
How would they defend against those lightning field attacks he was using in Wakanda? Surely they would just kill everyone.

Robtard
Would kill or KO the ones that can't fly fast enough. Ironman (tank it) and Strange (shield) would survive, maybe Starlord (fly)

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Robtard
Would kill or KO the ones that can't fly fast enough. Ironman (tank it) and Strange (shield) would survive, maybe Starlord (fly) He throws out 4 though in seconds decimating everything hit including two landing craft, could Iron Man tank them one after another after another as he used them in Wakanda from the Sky? Could Strange or Starlord?

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Robtard
You're just making shit up again. There was no indication that reality was warped when he punched the Mirror attack. When reality is warped, we have multiple examples and clearly see it happening. eg Mantis unraveling, fire turning into those flying creatures etc

Stormbreaker already countered the power of the Reality stone though, along with the other five and all at the same time. Mirror attack wouldn't pose a threat to its might. You have no argument to counter this and you're finished.

Ps
dwkCXNxtdFM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwkCXNxtdFM

Marker 01:51, Thanos uses the Power stone (purple) to break the Mirror attack. You lied again, Josh. You're a liar.

OMG!!!!

To break the mirror dimension you have to be able to warp dimensions/realities!!!

Do you know what you are even talking about son!? Fallacy denied.

Prove SB can warp reality.

P.S.

Look carefully. The red stone (reality) was on. The punch is horizontal and the power stone slightly covers it. But it can be seen.


Liar? Inform yourself kiddo.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
OMG!!!!

To break the mirror dimension you have to be able to warp dimensions/realities!!!

Do you know what you are even talking about son!? Fallacy denied.

Prove SB can warp reality.

P.S.

Look carefully. The red stone (reality) was on. The punch is horizontal and the power stone slightly covers it. But it can be seen.


Liar? Inform yourself kiddo.

Again, you have to prove that Thanos had to warp reality to break the mirror dimension attack. If you don't have proof, your opinion is worthless.

If all you have is "the red gem seemed to be turned on", well, then it was definitely turned on when he attacked Thor. And if the red gem being turned on means that reality is being warped, then SB must have been able to warp reality as well to counter that.

Robtard
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
OMG!!!!

To break the mirror dimension you have to be able to warp dimensions/realities!!!

Do you know what you are even talking about son!? Fallacy denied.

Prove SB can warp reality.

P.S.

Look carefully. The red stone (reality) was on. The punch is horizontal and the power stone slightly covers it. But it can be seen.


Liar? Inform yourself kiddo.

Hopefully you're just trying to troll and are not actually retarded?

Look at the clip, Thanos uses the Power stone (purple) to break the Mirror attack. Your premise is flawed; you're flawed.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by FrothByte
The problem with this is that it's all simply your theory. There is no factual evidence to back this up. There is no proof that Thanos warped reality to counter the mirror dimension. Heck, we can't even be sure that the reality stone was lit up when he punched it. You know how the mvf works: Either you post feats to back up your theory or it didn't happen.

laughing out loud Then go watch Dr. Strange! The whole movie was about realities.

The mirror dimension, just as Dormammu's dimension requires Reality Warping skills and abilities to access! In order to break the mirror dimension you have to have reality warping abilities! It's a must!

The Ancient One to Strange while this was still a trainee:

The Sling Ring is a reality warping device. In other words, to break outside the Mirror Dimension you need to warp reality.

Thanos had the reality stone and he used it! He warped reality!

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Robtard
Hopefully you're just trying to troll and are not actually retarded?

Look at the clip, Thanos uses the Power stone (purple) to break the Mirror attack. Your premise is flawed; you're flawed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwkCXNxtdFM

Minute 1:51. If you manage to stop the clip at that exact frame, just when the gauntlet touches the mirror dimension and slightly covers it.

You will see both the Power and Reality stones active!

FrothByte
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
laughing out loud Then go watch Dr. Strange! The whole movie was about realities.

The mirror dimension, just as Dormammu's dimension requires Reality Warping skills and abilities to access! In order to break the mirror dimension you have to have reality warping abilities! It's a must!

The Ancient One to Strange while this was still a trainee:

The Sling Ring is a reality warping device. In other words, to break outside the Mirror Dimension you need to warp reality.

Thanos had the reality stone and he used it! He warped reality!

That's not called proof. Proof is actually showing a feat where it's clear Thanos used reality warping to counter the mirror dimension attack. Backing up your theory with more theory does nothing.

quanchi112

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by FrothByte
That's not called proof. Proof is actually showing a feat where it's clear Thanos used reality warping to counter the mirror dimension attack. Backing up your theory with more theory does nothing.

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj531/Josh-Alexander/Screenshot%2056_zpse7ameux2.png

You can see a purple (power) and red (reality) circle behind the mirror dimension.

Furthermore (Despite the use of forum's being questioned)

MCU wiki:


Even if you are right, and Thanos only used the Power Stone! SB isn't the power stone!

Josh_Alexander

quanchi112

Josh_Alexander

FrothByte
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj531/Josh-Alexander/Screenshot%2056_zpse7ameux2.png

You can see a purple (power) and red (reality) circle behind the mirror dimension.

Furthermore (Despite the use of forum's being questioned)

MCU wiki:


Even if you are right, and Thanos only used the Power Stone! SB isn't the power stone!

So what you're saying is that as long as the red stone is activated it means Thanos is using reality warping powers? Glad to know you agree that Thanos used reality warping powers against Thor.

quanchi112

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by FrothByte
So what you're saying is that as long as the red stone is activated it means Thanos is using reality warping powers? Glad to know you agree that Thanos used reality warping powers against Thor.

Guess you have surrendered. Not even tried to rebuke the evidence brought forth, nice!

I have already rebuked such a fallacy!

Either way, SB isn't the power stone nor the reality stone. Team wins!

Josh_Alexander

quanchi112

FrothByte
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Guess you have surrendered. Not even tried to rebuke the evidence brought forth, nice!

I have already rebuked such a fallacy!

Either way, SB isn't the power stone nor the reality stone. Team wins!

I see you're back to your cowardly ways. Look at you run from the question with your tail between your legs. Oh well, at least you admit that Thanos used reality warping against Thor.

Either way, SB overpowered 6 stones. Strange's mirror dimension was overpowered by 1, maybe 2 stones.

quanchi112
Josh really is an h1 level mastermind.

laughing out loud

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by FrothByte
I see you're back to your cowardly ways. Look at you run from the question with your tail between your legs. Oh well, at least you admit that Thanos used reality warping against Thor.

Either way, SB overpowered 6 stones. Strange's mirror dimension was overpowered by 1, maybe 2 stones.

As always. I bring the evidence while all you do is chit chat!

Get over it, Thor cant win all fights fellow.

Are you implying that SB》IG?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
As always. I bring the evidence while al you do is chit chat!

Get over it, Thor cant win all fights fellow.

Are you implying that SB》IG? He called you a coward and you continue to slither away.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
Josh really is an h1 level mastermind.

laughing out loud

Concession accepted. Darth Thor wiped your ass.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Concession accepted. Darth Thor wiped your ass. You failed to address the points like the coward froth rightly called you.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
He called you a coward and you continue to slither away.

Am debating with FrothByte, not you Quan! You had your chance against DT and lost horrendously!

Have a bit of respect when grown ups are talking!

quanchi112

Josh_Alexander

quanchi112

FrothByte
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
As always. I bring the evidence while all you do is chit chat!

Get over it, Thor cant win all fights fellow.

Are you implying that SB》IG?

When did I say Thor wins all fights? All I'm doing is punching huge gaping holes in your logic. For example, pointing out your hypocrisy in beleiving a red glow from Thanos is proof that he used reality warping powers against Dr. Strange yet refuse to acknowledge he used those same powers against Thor despite having that same stone lit.

Or how SB clearly overpowered a full blast from the full gauntlet yet you keep implying SB is weaker than the power stone.

And everytime I point this out you run away and say "Guess you have surrendered" or some other diversionary tactic instead of manning up and actually addressing the points raised against you.

It's childishly pathetic, like a schoolyard shouting match.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by FrothByte
When did I say Thor wins all fights? All I'm doing is punching huge gaping holes in your logic. For example, pointing out your hypocrisy in beleiving a red glow from Thanos is proof that he used reality warping powers against Dr. Strange yet refuse to acknowledge he used those same powers against Thor despite having that same stone lit.

Or how SB clearly overpowered a full blast from the full gauntlet yet you keep implying SB is weaker than the power stone.

And everytime I point this out you run away and say "Guess you have surrendered" or some other diversionary tactic instead of manning up and actually addressing the points raised against you.

It's childishly pathetic, like a schoolyard shouting match.

I already addressed this! They are different types of attack therefore must not be taken as equals! All you do is keep ignoring! Did Thanos used the Reality Stone against SB in a beam attack? Yes! I never said otherwise! Does that mean that SB is a reality warping weapon!? No! It just means it's resistant to a beam attack from the reality stone!

You and Robtard are making a fallacy! You are saying that because Stormbreaker was able to withstand a blow from the IG, therefore it can warp reality and break outside the Mirror Dimension! You are taking things literal! What's next huh? SB being able to go back in time? SB being able to control the mind of others because it took a laser beam from the Mind Stone?

I never said SB was weak! I said it can't replicate the Infinty Stones! The fact it withstood an attack from the IG doesn't make it > Infinty Stones! Or are you suggesting otherwise?

I have addressed your points very clearly! I have even bothered myself to go and find quotes and clips to support my arguments.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I already addressed this! They are different types of attack therefore must not be taken as equals! All you do is keep ignoring! Did Thanos used the Reality Stone against SB in a beam attack? Yes! I never said otherwise! Does that mean that SB is a reality warping weapon!? No! It just means it's resistant to a beam attack from the reality stone!

You and Robtard are making a fallacy! You are saying that because Stormbreaker was able to withstand a blow from the IG, therefore it can warp reality and break outside the Mirror Dimension! You are taking things literal! What's next huh? SB being able to go back in time? SB being able to control the mind of others because it took a laser beam from the Mind Stone?

I never said SB was weak! I said it can't replicate the Infinty Stones! The fact it withstood an attack from the IG doesn't make it > Infinty Stones! Or are you suggesting otherwise?

I have addressed your points very clearly! I have even bothered myself to go and find quotes and clips to support my arguments.

Hold up, you're saying if Thanos has the red light on AND delivers a punch that's the only time it's a reality warp and not when he uses it as a beam? Do you have any feat at all to back this logic up?

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by FrothByte
Hold up, you're saying if Thanos has the red light on AND delivers a punch that's the only time it's a reality warp and not when he uses it as a beam? Do you have any feat at all to back this logic up?

Here i go! More evidence for the case:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PngzUEsOZZI

Minute 1:03: Loki uses the Mind Stone to deliver a blue laser BEAM (just like the gauntlet did on SB) destroying some appliances.

Minute 1:40: Loki uses the same Mind Stone to touch Haweye's chest, controling his mind.

Both attacks are clearly different! Both came off from the mind stone!

Does it mean that the mind stone also hacked the computers, cables and other appliances? Did the mind stone hacked the atoms from the devices and told them to explode? Does it mean it was a mind attack?

No! Ergo, just because the attack came off the mind stone, it doesn't mean minds were hacked!

P.S: Even if the beam used by Thanos had reality warping properties, it doesn't mean SB can warp reality. Being resistant to something doesn't mean you can replicate it!

FrothByte
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Here i go! More evidence for the case:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PngzUEsOZZI

Minute 1:03: Loki uses the Mind Stone to deliver a blue laser BEAM (just like the gauntlet did on SB) destroying some appliances.

Minute 1:40: Loki uses the same Mind Stone to touch Haweye's chest, controling his mind.

Both attacks are clearly different! Both came off from the mind stone!

Does it mean that the mind stone also hacked the computers, cables and other appliances? Did the mind stone hacked the atoms from the devices and told them to explode? Does it mean it was a mind attack?

No! Ergo, just because the attack came off the mind stone, it doesn't mean minds were hacked!

P.S: Even if the beam used by Thanos had reality warping properties, it doesn't mean SB can warp reality. Being resistant to something doesn't mean you can replicate it!

Yes but you keep dodging the elephant in the room. You still have NOT proved that Thanos used a reality warping attack against the mirror dimension. You can theorize all you want but it's useless if you can't prove it.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes but you keep dodging the elephant in the room. You still have NOT proved that Thanos used a reality warping attack against the mirror dimension. You can theorize all you want but it's useless if you can't prove it.

Noo..You keep ignoring the evidence brought forth by me.

I:

1. Proved that Thanos used the Reality Stone
2. Brought the statement from the Ancient One to Strange telling him that a reality warping weapon would be required to get free from the Mirror Dimension
3. Brought you wiki information verifying that indeed the Reality Stone was used to counter the Mirror Dimension.

Check it, it's a couple of pages before.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Noo..You keep ignoring the evidence brought forth by me.

I:

1. Proved that Thanos used the Reality Stone
2. Brought the statement from the Ancient One to Strange telling him that a reality warping weapon would be required to get free from the Mirror Dimension
3. Brought you wiki information verifying that indeed the Reality Stone was used to counter the Mirror Dimension.

Check it, it's a couple of pages before.

So are wikis valid prood in mvf now? I'd like to see Imp declare that. If your theory is that the reality stone can do different kinds of attacks, you still need to prove that Thanos used it as a reality warping advice. Do you know what proof is?

P.s. the ancient one said no such thing.

TheVaultDweller
It's hard to see in the actual footage whether he is using just the Power Stone, or both Reality and Power. To me, it looks like both, but that's just going by the fact that you get both red and purple lighting effects (though the purple is far more dominant) when he blocks the attack. For example, if you pause it here at around 3:31 at the right moment, you see two light tinges:

REftJPcWKKo

FrothByte
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
It's hard to see in the actual footage whether he is using just the Power Stone, or both Reality and Power. To me, it looks like both, but that's just going by the fact that you get both red and purple lighting effects (though the purple is far more dominant) when he blocks the attack. For example, if you pause it here at around 3:31 at the right moment, you see two light tinges:

REftJPcWKKo

Maybe it's just my screen but at 3:31 it actually looks purple and blue.

Nibedicus
I have IW in 4k, gonna check it out tonyt when I get home.

TheVaultDweller
Originally posted by FrothByte
Maybe it's just my screen but at 3:31 it actually looks purple and blue.

On the gauntlet, it looks like blue and purple. But the outward haze to the left of the screen looks more red to me. It might be he was using power, space and reality, as those three were index (power), middle (space) and ring (reality), so in order, IIRC. But yeah, all the youtube clips are either bad quality, cut out of order to avoid copyright strikes, or both. And I can't be bothered to sift through all of them to find the best one. So, will wait for Nib to get back to us once he checked it out.

Would kind of make sense for him to use all three if you think about it, as the mirror fractals portals you to an alternate reality/reflection of our world. So, combo of space, reality and power to counter it and overpower it.

HulkIsHulk
The red hue might have been due to the lighting on Titan. There was still red when Strange formed it

TheLordofMurder
Why oh why didn't you make this a poll thread Frothbyte!??

Polls are the best way to silence quanchi's ignorance...


Btw, Thor with Stormbreaker annihilates the Titan 7...

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Thanos was jobbed heavily in that fight IMO. He could have ended it by simply turning them into paper (like he did the Guardians on Knowhere). Was needed since they wanted to make it a decent fight.

If Thor jobs like Thanos did and the Titan 7 fights smart, then yeah he can lose. But if he fights smart (like he would in a forum fight), he'd one shot most of the team with a lightning smash. IM would hold out a bit longer (def tank the lightning smash) but a single direct axe strike would easily pierce the armor and maim him pretty bad. Strange is the only question mark here but his best weapon (BFR) is negated by the axe's Bifrost ability and he doesn't have enough power showings even remotely equal to Thor and his durability may as well be nonexistent in this fight, if Thor hits him, he drops. Maybe if he separates Thor from the Axe mid-throw?

I cant believe this, but I agree with everything you said...

The End of Days must be nigh...

confused

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by Surtur
Never understood why Thanos didn't just stop time and then kill Thor.

Probably comicbook logic at work...

Afterall, in the comics, the more powerful you are, the resistant you are to all forms of attack...

I am betting Thor with Stormbreaker was beyond Thanos's ability to tamper with in such a fashion...

TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by steverules_2
Thor > Thanos with a fully powered gauntlet > Titan 7

Thor wins

thumb up

TheVaultDweller
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
The red hue might have been due to the lighting on Titan. There was still red when Strange formed it

I dunno. It's only visible in that instant, and looks just like the purple lighting, just a red tint:

https://i.imgur.com/Po9KEek.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/JNek6Zr.jpg

And, as I pointed out, it fits with how the stones line up on the gauntlet IIRC.

quanchi112
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Why oh why didn't you make this a poll thread Frothbyte!??

Polls are the best way to silence quanchi's ignorance...


Btw, Thor with Stormbreaker annihilates the Titan 7... Based on? You seem very upset tbh.

quanchi112

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by FrothByte
So are wikis valid prood in mvf now? I'd like to see Imp declare that. If your theory is that the reality stone can do different kinds of attacks, you still need to prove that Thanos used it as a reality warping advice. Do you know what proof is?

P.s. the ancient one said no such thing.

Did you watch Dr. Strange? Do you know who the Ancient one is?

The wiki is just an extra; a cherry to the cake.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
The red hue might have been due to the lighting on Titan. There was still red when Strange formed it

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj531/Josh-Alexander/Screenshot%2056_zpse7ameux2.png

You can see the blue and red light behind the mirror dimension! It looks blury but it is noticable with a bit of attention.

The Reality Stone was used.

Surtur
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
There is no indication that Thanos even knew Thor had SB or knew SB's capabilities.

Also, there's the fact that Thanos thought a laser beam would be able o vaporize the thing Thor launched at him.

Furthermore, you need to consider that 1. Thor suprised Thanos 2. The scene is very short, and left Thanos very little time to react far worse to analyze the situation.

He saw a magic dude show up with a hammer and saw it begin to fight back his beam...dude shoulda done something.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Did you watch Dr. Strange? Do you know who the Ancient one is?

The wiki is just an extra; a cherry to the cake.

I know who the ancient one is and she never said anything about needing a reality warp attack to beat the mirror dimension.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Surtur
He saw a magic dude show up with a hammer and saw it begin to fight back his beam...dude shoulda done something.

From the moment Thor launched SB to the moment Thanos got impaled the scene took ONLY 4 seconds.

SB touched the laser beam 1-2 seconds later. So he had approx 2 seconds to realize his attack was useless.

Thanos used a laser attack since it probably was the first thing that crossed his mind.

Thanos didnt know Thor had SB nor the capabilities of it. By the time Thanos figured out that this object wasnt stopping it was too late. Dodging or changing tactics would have been imposible.

Now, if you change the circumstances. Let Thanos know that Thor has SB and that it was created in Nidavellir (from the energy of a neutron star). Give Thanos 4s to counter that, and there would be Millions of ways he could have countered Thor's attack.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by FrothByte
I know who the ancient one is and she never said anything about needing a reality warp attack to beat the mirror dimension.

Read my posr carefully.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Read my posr carefully.

I did. Nothing there has her mentioning reality warping as a way to deal with the mirror dimension. You're making stuff up again.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by FrothByte
I did. Nothing there has her mentioning reality warping as a way to deal with the mirror dimension. You're making stuff up again.

The sling ring is a reality warping device, ergo you need to warp reality to break from the mirror dimension.

So are you saying anyone can access dimensions? laughing out loud

You dont need to warp reality in order to creare a mirror dimension?

Robtard
Originally posted by FrothByte
I did. Nothing there has her mentioning reality warping as a way to deal with the mirror dimension. You're making stuff up again.

It's clearly purple, the Power stone Thanos uses to smash apart the Mirror attack. There was no reality warping as we've seen Thanos do with turning Drax into blocks, reshaping the environment, creating/morphing flying creatures etc. Josh is making shit up again.

My hope is that he's trying to troll to win his argument and isn't actually retarded.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Robtard
It's clearly purple, the Power stone Thanos uses to smash apart the Mirror attack. There was no reality warping as we've seen Thanos do with turning Drax into blocks, reshaping the environment, creating/morphing flying creatures etc. Josh is making shit up again.

My hope is that he's trying to troll to win his argument and isn't actually retarded.

I already posted a picture and written evidence showing that the reality stone was used and that that reality warping is required to break the mirror dimension.

You utterly ignored my post. You never replied. Concession accepted, you were wrong.

Dont worry, I forgive you for calling me a liar.

Robtard
It's purple, not red. Even if the Reality stone was used, it didn't warp reality as we have clear showings of when that happens. It would have been just powered up.

Considering that Stormbreaker already shrugged off the Reality stone along with the five other stones in the rainbow blast, your point is as its always been, pointless. Your wrong as fact and you likely are a liar.

Nibedicus
Just looked at the movie in 4k. It's purple. Didn't see any red at all and I ran it over and over like til my wife was starting to wonder about my sanity (and with that, I will stop rewatching it and just post my findings).

There is short segment (@1:59:23 of the movie when Thanos punches the mirror-effect prior to it shattering) that LOOKS like it is red but I feel like it is actually just the red/blue of the color purple being refracted by the fragmented mirror-effect (since there is a blue light right under it that combines to purple in the middle).

That's what I think at least.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
The sling ring is a reality warping device, ergo you need to warp reality to break from the mirror dimension.

So are you saying anyone can access dimensions? laughing out loud

You dont need to warp reality in order to creare a mirror dimension?

The sling ring creates portals to get from one place to another. In other words, it warps space, not reality. Just like the Space stone allows Thanos to create portals. If you want to claim the sling ring changes reality, prove it. Show me a clip where it actively changes reality.

And even then, the Ancient One never said that only reality warping can defeat the mirror dimension. i.e. - you're making stuff up.

Nibedicus
Man, just skipped to the last part of the movie, Thanos being able to effortlessly pluck the mind gem from within organic vibranium (w/c IIRC is supposed to be even stronger than regular vibranium) is a pretty badass strength "feat".

FrothByte
Originally posted by Robtard
It's clearly purple, the Power stone Thanos uses to smash apart the Mirror attack. There was no reality warping as we've seen Thanos do with turning Drax into blocks, reshaping the environment, creating/morphing flying creatures etc. Josh is making shit up again.

My hope is that he's trying to troll to win his argument and isn't actually retarded.

Josh latched on to this since he knows it's the only bone he's got. Without this argument he knows he'll lose. So he creates stuff up (reality stone was warping reality against Strange but not against Thor) as is standard for Josh's mutated strawman arguments.

quanchi112

Josh_Alexander
@Robtard @FrothByte!

Let's close this discussion once and for all!


Evidence that the Reality Stone was used:

Battle of Titan:

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj531/Josh-Alexander/Screenshot%2056_zpsa0owf3a6.png

Wiki support: (I used size 5 so Robtard can see, since he is a bit blind)

I forgive you Rob! You are misinformed, and simply a bit blind.


Evidence that Reality Warping and more specifically dimensional manipulation is required

The Ancient One -



Sling Ring:

Dimensions or realites are universes parallel to each other, which altogether form a multiverse.

Karl Mordo -

The Sling Ring allows it's wearer to travel throughout the MULTIVERSE. In other words, it allows the wearer to travel trhoughout the different realites/dimensions.

Now FrothByte, I never said the Sling Ring doesn't allow for teleportation/space manipulation. I said it can alter reality and can access dimensions! Stop trying to change the subject!


Conclusion

Thanos did used the Reality Stone. To travel through dimensions/realities you require a tool that alters reality.

SB isn't the Reality Stone (It can't replicate what the Reality Stone does). SB isn't coming out of that Mirror Dimension, ergo Thor loses to Strange! Get over it Thor fanboys!


PS:

I have brought the evidences backing my case. All Froth and Rob have been doing is refute and wabble! Your opinion matters not kiddo's, you want do debate you need arguments AND evidence.

If you want to claim that SB can come out of that Mirror Dimension you have to:

1. Prove that SB can replicate the things the Reality Stone can do.
2. Prove that SB can replicate the things the Power Stone can do.

laughing out loud Poor little fellows.

Josh_Alexander

quanchi112
Josh does not grasp what words mean and conflates terms all the time. I hope this finally exposes his low intelligence for the last time.

Nibedicus
Josh, yeah that is the moment I am talking about. In 4k, it looks like a refraction of the purple glow of the gauntlet (w/c you will see is NOT the blue/red light you have encircled but the purple glow in the very front to the right of the glow which is where Thanos' fist is in that moment).

You can tell from the immediate frames following the said punch that the light was simply a reflection of the purple light refracted by the mirror-effect.

The light you are pointing out is actually located around his shoulder in that exact moment.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
@Robtard @FrothByte!

Let's close this discussion once and for all!


Evidence that the Reality Stone was used:

Battle of Titan:

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj531/Josh-Alexander/Screenshot%2056_zpsa0owf3a6.png

Wiki support: (I used size 5 so Robtard can see, since he is a bit blind)

I forgive you Rob! You are misinformed, and simply a bit blind.


Evidence that Reality Warping and more specifically dimensional manipulation is required

The Ancient One -



Sling Ring:

Dimensions or realites are universes parallel to each other, which altogether form a multiverse.

Karl Mordo -

The Sling Ring allows it's wearer to travel throughout the MULTIVERSE. In other words, it allows the wearer to travel trhoughout the different realites/dimensions.

Now FrothByte, I never said the Sling Ring doesn't allow for teleportation/space manipulation. I said it can alter reality and can access dimensions! Stop trying to change the subject!


Conclusion

Thanos did used the Reality Stone. To travel through dimensions/realities you require a tool that alters reality.

SB isn't the Reality Stone (It can't replicate what the Reality Stone does). SB isn't coming out of that Mirror Dimension, ergo Thor loses to Strange! Get over it Thor fanboys!


PS:

I have brought the evidences backing my case. All Froth and Rob have been doing is refute and wabble! Your opinion matters not kiddo's, you want do debate you need arguments AND evidence.

If you want to claim that SB can come out of that Mirror Dimension you have to:

1. Prove that SB can replicate the things the Reality Stone can do.
2. Prove that SB can replicate the things the Power Stone can do.

laughing out loud Poor little fellows.

1. Please provide a notice from Imp that states wikis are considered canon in these threads.

2. A sling ring opens a portal to get you to and from a place. If this is your definition of reality warping, then SB does this as well with the Bifrost.

3. The ancient one never said that only reality warping can defeat the mirror dimension.

4. You still haven't proven that Thanos used reality warping to dispel the mirror dimension.

quanchi112

Robtard
Ok, Josh was partially right accoring to the wikia, Reality stone was used as were others, his claim of "To break the mirror dimention you need to be able to warp reality" is still false though, it's also very telling how he purposely cut the quote short, because he's a liar. See below.

In full: Doctor Strange opened a gateway to the Mirror Dimension to protect himself against an energy blast from the Power Stone unleashed by Thanos and then send the gateway at Thanos, but it is negated and deflected by Thanos, who used the Reality Stone to prevent it from trapping him and then the Power Stone to empower the Infinity Gauntlet to be able to shatter the dimensional gate and then the Space Stone to compress the remains into a destructive black hole that he threw at the sorcerer.


So as before, Stormbreaker was capable of shrugging off an attack of all six stones at once, it would just shatter the Mirror attack.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Josh, yeah that is the moment I am talking about. In 4k, it looks like a refraction of the purple glow of the gauntlet (w/c you will see is NOT the blue/red light you have encircled but the purple glow in the very front to the right of the glow which is where Thanos' fist is in that moment).

You can tell from the immediate frames following the said punch that the light was simply a reflection of the purple light refracted by the mirror-effect.

The light you are pointing out is actually located around his shoulder in that exact moment.

Yeah I noticed the violet light infront.

The scene is clearly a refraction of the light. The front violet light is the glowing part that has managed to break the Mirror Dimension.


The red and bluish light is the part of light that is still refracted by the mirror. Thanos is punching horizontally, which means that the power stone is covering the reality stone. So, you wouldn't see it active. However, that refraction could be the light of the Reality Stone which is refracted by one of the side mirrors.

Now it could be possible that the two circles is caused by deffraction. However, if you check a couple of ms prior to the MD engulfing Thanos, you will see a red light arround the purple one being reflected by the gauntlet.

Indication that the Red Stone was active.

The wiki comes to confirm my belief.

Nibedicus
Not saying the reality stone was inactive.

But I see no red glow (other than the reflected light w/c are refracted purple) on the 4k video though. stick out tongue

It's hard to trust reflections on the mirror-effect as those evidently cause refraction of light that splits the red/blue on purple. Any shot directly on the gauntlet itself were all purple.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by FrothByte
1. Please provide a notice from Imp that states wikis are considered canon in these threads.

2. A sling ring opens a portal to get you to and from a place. If this is your definition of reality warping, then SB does this as well with the Bifrost.

3. The ancient one never said that only reality warping can defeat the mirror dimension.

4. You still haven't proven that Thanos used reality warping to dispel the mirror dimension.

Read the 2nd rule in the MVF Rules. Inform yourself.

Everything is explained in my previous post. Pretending to ignore won't help you Froth.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Not saying the reality stone was inactive.

But I see no red glow (other than the reflected light w/c are refracted purple) on the 4k video though. stick out tongue

Am open to the idea of it being inactive to be honest. Isn't like it would make a difference in this case.

quanchi112
Anyone with Internet access can write and make changes to Wikipedia articles, except in limited cases where editing is restricted to prevent disruption or vandalism. Users can contribute anonymously, under a pseudonym, or, if they choose to, with their real identity.

Point is higher proof is required than a wiki link. The movie does not make it clear watching the scene since it happens quickly and is hard to pinpoint so anyone is free to their own opinion on the matter but without an official statement it is just a wiki page.

Josh_Alexander
@FrothByte and @Rob.

Let's say you are right! For the sake of debating.

Let's say reality warping isn't required.

As Robtard already proved. Thanos required the use of the Power stone and the Space Stone.

Prove that SB can replicate the Power Stone's abilities or the Space Stone.

Please, kill the elephant in your arguments.

quanchi112

Robtard
It's beyond clear that Thanos used the Power stone to shatter the Mirror attack. You clearly see the purple stone flashing when he punches it and the Mirror attack is then destroyed.

If Josh thinks Stormbreaker couldn't do the same when it casually overpowered the god-level rainbow-attack of all six stones, then he is indeed likely retarded.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Robtard
It's beyond clear that Thanos used the Power stone to shatter the Mirror attack. You clearly see the purple stone flashing when he punches it and the Mirror attack is then destroyed.

SB isn't the power stone.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
@FrothByte and @Rob.

Let's say you are right! For the sake of debating.

Let's say reality warping isn't required.

As Robtard already proved. Thanos required the use of the Power stone and the Space Stone.

Prove that SB can replicate the Power Stone's abilities or the Space Stone.

Please, kill the elephant in your arguments.

Waiting for response.

Robtard
Already did:

Originally posted by Robtard
It's beyond clear that Thanos used the Power stone to shatter the Mirror attack. You clearly see the purple stone flashing when he punches it and the Mirror attack is then destroyed.

If Josh thinks Stormbreaker couldn't do the same when it casually overpowered the god-level rainbow-attack of all six stones, then he is indeed likely retarded.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Robtard
Already did:

No, you are saying that because SB withstood an attack from the Power Stone therefore it can replicate the Power Stone's power/abilites. A fallacy.

If that's right then please, provide evidence that SB can wipe out an entire planet by simply touching the surface of it.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
No, you are saying that because SB withstood an attack from the Power Stone therefore it can replicate the Power Stone's power/abilites. A fallacy.

If that's right then please, provide evidence that SB can wipe out an entire planet by simply touching the surface of it.

It didn't just "withstand" an attack by the powerstone, it outright overpowered it. Thanos didn't destroy an entire planet when he broke the mirror dimension so that's a complete strawman. Thanos used the powerstone in a direct, isolated attack against the mirror dimension and SB overpowered the powerstone (and 5 others) in a direct, isolated attack. Those 2 are directly comparable.

Robtard
Originally posted by FrothByte
It didn't just "withstand" an attack by the powerstone, it outright overpowered it. Thanos didn't destroy an entire planet when he broke the mirror dimension so that's a complete strawman. Thanos used the powerstone in a direct, isolated attack against the mirror dimension and SB overpowered the powerstone (and 5 others) in a direct, isolated attack. Those 2 are directly comparable.

^ Bingo bongo

No on is falling for Josh's silly games and lies.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by FrothByte
It didn't just "withstand" an attack by the powerstone, it outright overpowered it. Thanos didn't destroy an entire planet when he broke the mirror dimension so that's a complete strawman. Thanos used the powerstone in a direct, isolated attack against the mirror dimension and SB overpowered the powerstone (and 5 others) in a direct, isolated attack. Those 2 are directly comparable.

The properties of a beam from the Power Stone are unknown.

Thanos directly touched the MD with the power stone! A celestial wiped an entire planet by touching the Planet's surface with the PS.

The Guardians of the Galaxy barely endure touching the PS for a few seconds (Not to remember that SL had Celestial properties by that time).

Thanos was killing Thor by slightly touching Thor's face with the PS.


Prove SB can emit a purpleish energy capable of wiping planets.

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