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Who wins?

This version of Supes, then?

https://i.imgur.com/fo91JCs.jpg


He probably wins, tbh. Not only was it stated that he was far more powerful than ever before, but it was also implied that he was more powerful than he was with the Motherbox amp in H/P. /shrug

Giving this to Hulk. We never debate off of implied power because if that was the case, Hulk still wins.

Originally posted by carver9
Giving this to Hulk. We never debate off of implied power because if that was the case, Hulk still wins.

Implied power, no one come close to Superman.

Originally posted by SquallX
Implied power, no one come close to Superman.

You sure? Lol... Hulk has outright been said to be the most powerful being in existence and 2 yrs ago, Aaron himself said that there isnt a being in the universe as powerful as Thor and Hulk.

Originally posted by carver9
We never debate off of implied power https://i.imgur.com/w3hUyFC.gif


But seriously. This amped Superman was stated to be more powerful than EVER before, in the same sequence where his fight with H/P Doomsday(and subsequent Motherbox amp) were explicitly referenced as well. So I suppose it is more than an implication, it's a fact.

He also has some feats. A much weaker version, before he started Hulking out, knocked away Bizarro Superman accidentally by brushing him with his fingertips.

How many Hercs would you calculate that to be, though!?!

Originally posted by cdtm
He also has some feats. A much weaker version, before he started Hulking out, knocked away Bizarro Superman accidentally by brushing him with his fingertips.

That's it?

Because literally finger flicking away a high herald isn't impressive at all.

At a much less powerful state than the one in this thread, no less. Lol

Originally posted by cdtm
He also has some feats. A much weaker version, before he started Hulking out, knocked away Bizarro Superman accidentally by brushing him with his fingertips.

https://i.imgur.com/KgUftR4.jpg


His massive amp was directly referenced here as well:
https://i.imgur.com/vyiofCJ.jpg


And like you said: that was only the beginning of Superman's mega-amp. His powers only continued to grow from there exponentially, because his body had started to absorb/metabolize "ALL forms of energy":
https://i.imgur.com/c1ZQVnk.jpg

IOW, the energy given off by Hulk would only serve to amp him further?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
IOW, the energy given off by Hulk would only serve to amp him further?

As Carver has stated before, any feats Hulk has will only rise Superman's stock.

I think I need to be educated as to how much energy this version of Hulk would be outputting. Does he even give off any energy at all?

Sure looks like it to me...

https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/39208949_World_War_Hulk_005-033.jpg


https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/39208947_Incredible_Hulks_2009-2011_632-008.jpg https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/39208948_Incredible_Hulks_2009-2011_632-011.jpg


But Hulk is Hulk, so it's hard to say. Hopefully carver will drop some knowledge on us.

What if they stalemated? Anyone think of that? No? Well I just did, and thus it will be... LOL.

Stalemate Mutha%@c(s!!!!!

BFR has not been turned off.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
BFR has not been turned off.

You read what I said...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
BFR has not been turned off. Nice catch. Superman bfrs Hulk to the grave.

On a side note, imagine this Superman had faced those pocket kryptonians from Byrne's last arc.

Hulk kills him in one punch. Those fts are lame. This is the same Supes that punched Lobo out of orbit and Lobo was alright afterwards.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk kills him in one punch. Those fts are lame. This is the same Supes that punched Lobo out of orbit and Lobo was alright afterwards.

Well, Lobo does rhyme with Glass Joe.

They had superman trying to release energy by shooting out heat vision while locked up on a solar system with a red sun and even then he was getting more powerful.

It's not just extra energy the more he absorbed the more powerful he got. Strength, invulnerability, speed everything. There is no way hulk will physically wins this fight.
The force of them punching Eachother will power up superman and superman attacks will hurt.

Originally posted by Galan007


https://i.imgur.com/KgUftR4.jpg


His massive amp was directly referenced here as well:
https://i.imgur.com/vyiofCJ.jpg


And like you said: that was only the beginning of Superman's mega-amp. His powers only continued to grow from there exponentially, because his body had started to absorb/metabolize "ALL forms of energy":
https://i.imgur.com/c1ZQVnk.jpg

Hulk killing amped Heralds without touching them and destroying realms etc without touching it in a single hit and you post this? Lol... Superman, ole Superman. He can punch a Sandwich into atoms and you all would use that as justification of pulling 10/10 against Surfer, Thor and Hulk combined.

Originally posted by Diesldude
They had superman trying to release energy by shooting out heat vision while locked up on a solar system with a red sun and even then he was getting more powerful.

It's not just extra energy the more he absorbed the more powerful he got. Strength, invulnerability, speed everything. There is no way hulk will physically wins this fight.
The force of them punching Eachother will power up superman and superman attacks will hurt.

What fts does he have?

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk killing amped Heralds without touching them and destroying realms etc without touching it in a single hit and you post this? Lol... Superman, ole Superman. He can punch a Sandwich into atoms and you all would use that as justification of pulling 10/10 against Surfer, Thor and Hulk combined. I don't think you even slightly comprehend the type of amp Superman was experiencing here. Your lips are wrapped too firmly around the gamma cock to grasp anything else beyond that.

I understand the amp. Superman himself said that he was so strong that he could destroy a city block with a touch. Well, Hulk was so powerful that he could crack the planet in half with just a step.



Then, this same Hulk at a far lesser power was so powerful that his freaking intestines handle the power of 133 Hercules. Lol... he beat an amped Wendigo and Bi Beast that was amplified 1000 folds and this is before going W/B. But yeah, you expect me to rep a character based off of statements. Make sense.

Originally posted by carver9
I understand the amp. Superman himself said that he was so strong that he could destroy a city block with a touch. You obviously don't understand the amp if you think *that* statement alone is what makes it so ridiculously impressive, lol.

Originally posted by carver9
Well, Hulk was so powerful that he could crack the planet in half with just a step. Scans?

Originally posted by carver9
But yeah, you expect me to rep a character based off of statements. Make sense. I don't expect you to ever 'rep' Superman over Hulk, lol. If Hulk had a powerbottom gimp on this site, it would be carver9... And I mean that in the zop-zoppiest way possible.

That said, you clearly have no real comprehension of how truly gargantuan Superman's amp was, and clearly won't even attempt to acknowledge it. Make sense.

Originally posted by Galan007
You obviously don't understand the amp if you think *that* statement alone is what makes it so ridiculously impressive, lol.

Scans?

I don't expect you to ever 'rep' Superman over Hulk, lol. If Hulk had a powerbottom gimp on this site, it would be carver9... And I mean that in the zop-zoppiest way possible.

That said, you clearly have no real comprehension of how truly gargantuan Superman's amp was, and clearly won't even attempt to acknowledge it. Make sense.

Lol.. I understand the amp but I also understand Hulk amp. The difference here is, Hulk have fts backing up his amp. Lol... you all are posting fts of him taking out parasite. Based off WBH showings, he would have turned Parasite into ashes.

That's the thing, no comparisons have been displayed. I dont even know why you used that word. We are debating a ftless character vs a character that actually have gargantuan fts AND implied power. Galan, you even know this isnt right. We understand you have favorites but this isnt a time to show it.

Carver is Carver

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Carver is Carver

And Hulk is Hulk.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol.. I understand the amp but I also understand Hulk amp. The difference here is, Hulk have fts backing up his amp. Lol... you all are posting fts of him taking out parasite. Based off WBH showings, he would have turned Parasite into ashes.

That's the thing, no comparisons have been displayed. I dont even know why you used that word. We are debating a ftless character vs a character that actually have gargantuan fts AND implied power. Galan, you even know this isnt right. We understand you have favorites but this isnt a time to show it. No, you only think it's "not right" because you have absolutely NO comprehension of how gargantuan Superman's amp truly was, nor do you grasp the concept that he was continuously absorbing ALL forms of energy at the time and metabolizing it into more power(hence why he was growing so massive.)

You're cheerleading Hulk for the sake of cheerleading Hulk, and not considering any facts about the character he is up against. It's what you do in virtually every Hulk thread. This is carver9.

Who all did K X Supes fight?

He snuck attack Parasite. He had an extended fight against Lobo. Anyone else worth mentioning? This is an implied power thread.

I don't recall a sneak attack. I thought he lured Parasite in order to depower himself because he was a threat to everyone. Maybe Galan can shed light on it. Ive only read like two issues with this version of Superman.

Wait I'm confused on the timeline here, was the Krypto X upgrade what he got at the end of the Reign of Superman when Erads blocked/transmuted Cyborgs K-Nite attack?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I don't recall a sneak attack. I thought he lured Parasite in order to depower himself because he was a threat to everyone. Maybe Galan can shed light on it. Ive only read like two issues with this version of Superman.

Superman ultimately used Parasite as a tool to help drain his power. In fact, that encounter helps show us how massive Superman's amp truly was:
https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/39224969_Adventures_of_Superman_1986-2006_512-014.jpg
"He's already absorbed as much energy from me as EVER before... And it hasn't even begun to drain me!"


Originally posted by SquallX
Carver, you know this is the same Superman that took on and beat H/P DD with the Mother Box amp right?

This Superman was said to be even more powerful than Mother Box Superman. And your claiming he's nothing special?. Indeed.

K-X Superman(bulky/peak) >>> MotherBox-amped Superman(H/P) >> standard Superman(post-resurrection) >> standard Superman(DoS/Byrne-era):
https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/39224970_7005126.jpg https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/39224971_16835.jpg https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/39224972_2678866.jpg https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/39224973_5100742.jpg


The idea is that he was perpetually absorbing energy, therefore his power was perpetually increasing as a corollary.

CARVER, IF YOU MAKE ONE MORE OFFENSIVE POST AGAINST SUPERMAN YOU WILL BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE HOUSE OF EL FOR PUNISHMENT!!!

.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Wait I'm confused on the timeline here, was the Krypto X upgrade what he got at the end of the Reign of Superman when Erads blocked/transmuted Cyborgs K-Nite attack? Originally posted by darthgoober
Wait I'm confused on the timeline here, was the Krypto X upgrade what he got at the end of the Reign of Superman when Erads blocked/transmuted Cyborgs K-Nite attack? Yep.


When Henshaw attempted to kill Supes via blasting him with k-nite, Eradicator jumped in the way of the blast before it directly touched Supes(essentially sacrificing himself), and the bleed-over energies then passed into Superman. After this happened, Supes was not only returned to full power, but he felt better than ever:
https://i.imgur.com/A5Fc715.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ZUOr1em.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/IMFlneF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/PpaVx4Q.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/JqED6sp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TL1K0F7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jsqwvoo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8uYRKnL.jpg
"I'm rejuvenated in a way I never thought possible! Something tells me I'll be able to handle anything better than ever!"
______________________________________

Soon thereafter(the same month/year the H/P arc began), it would be revealed that Superman had become immensely more powerful. Examples...

"Just tapped him a little... And he flew back like I hit him with my best haymaker!":
https://i.imgur.com/KgUftR4.jpg

"Even using as little effort as possible, I'm still stronger...faster...and more powerful than ever before!":
https://i.imgur.com/vyiofCJ.jpg
______________________________________

Superman's amp was then explained...

Hamilton: "You're absorbing solar radiation --and other energies-- much faster than ever before! This is because you've been irradiated by something vaguely familiar to Kryptonite -- call it Kryptonite-X."

Superman: "The last time I was exposed to Kryptonite, it passed through the Eradiactor first... Recharging my powers instantly!"

Hamilton: "A bit of foreshadowing there, I'd say. Bluntly, there's no physical way to expend your energy fast enough. Your powers will keep increasing until your body can't contain them.":
https://i.imgur.com/O04ni6h.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kuppq8g.jpg
______________________________________

Superman himself mentioned his increased power during the H/P arc(before he had even obtained a MotherBox)...

"I'm better than before, too! Stronger.":
https://i.imgur.com/DNjZeeh.jpg
______________________________________

His amplified power during the H/P-era was reinforced again here...

"After his recovery, was stronger than ever. Good thing, too -- 'cause Doomsday had cheated death as well! Even with the extra power, he still needed some gizmo called a 'Mother Box' to help him stand up to Doomsday.":
https://i.imgur.com/xTntuCb.jpg
______________________________________

And of course, Superman continued to absorb/metabolize ALL forms of energy, pretty much unchecked... Which ultimately led to his bulky/overpowered form:
https://i.imgur.com/c1ZQVnk.jpg

Galan handing out free naps

Originally posted by darthgoober
Wait I'm confused on the timeline here, was the Krypto X upgrade what he got at the end of the Reign of Superman when Erads blocked/transmuted Cyborgs K-Nite attack?

This should answer your question...

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-0ed73fb0fa34d26b5663e7c48aeda3d0-c
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-bfee080d72cd72b3d8615f2282a81e34

The crazy thing is, even with this power increase, Parasite was still able to absorb it all...

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-557abfbdcb072c971f9a70ecc6d1802f
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-e9c18d6c2c802ead878769f56babc082

But WWH energy (even without going WBH) couldnt be absorbed due to it being infinite.

https://lowbrowcomics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/wwh_xmen_3_dcp_0005.jpg

So because Parasite(who has a history of ridiculously uber absorption feats) was able to absorb the amp from Superman, but Darwin(who had literally NO noteworthy absorption feats) was unable to absorb the gamma from Hulk, it somehow means that Hulk is more powerful by default?

Jesus, your BS gets worse in every thread. none

Originally posted by carver9
The crazy thing is, even with this power increase, Parasite was still able to absorb it all...

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-557abfbdcb072c971f9a70ecc6d1802f
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-e9c18d6c2c802ead878769f56babc082

But WWH energy (even without going WBH) couldnt be absorbed due to it being infinite.

Strange.

Superman (even without the Kryptonite-X upgrade) has his HV not being able to be absorbed due to it being infinite

https://www.bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/735ob8-600x464.jpg

Yet Parasite took it just fine Doesn't mean he can't take WBH either.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Strange.

Superman (even without the Kryptonite-X upgrade) has his HV not being able to be absorbed due to it being infinite

https://www.bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/735ob8-600x464.jpg

Yet Parasite took it just fine Doesn't mean he can't take WBH either.

Funny you used the most recent scan of Superman being absorbed (even though your scan doesnt even say what you are indicating in your post). I wonder what you'll say if I poster a recent scan of Parasite absorption...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11131/111314550/6292261-overloads+parasite+1.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11131/111314550/6292262-overloads+parasite+2.jpg

By the way, he wasnt even fully transformed when Parasite failed.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yep.


When Henshaw attempted to kill Supes via blasting him with k-nite, Eradicator jumped in the way of the blast before it directly touched Supes(essentially sacrificing himself), and the bleed-over energies then passed into Superman. After this happened, Supes was not only returned to full power, but he felt better than ever:
https://i.imgur.com/A5Fc715.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ZUOr1em.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/IMFlneF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/PpaVx4Q.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/JqED6sp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TL1K0F7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jsqwvoo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8uYRKnL.jpg
"I'm rejuvenated in a way I never thought possible! Something tells me I'll be able to handle anything better than ever!"
______________________________________

Soon thereafter(the same month/year the H/P arc began), it would be revealed that Superman had become immensely more powerful. Examples...

"Just tapped him a little... And he flew back like I hit him with my best haymaker!":
https://i.imgur.com/KgUftR4.jpg

"Even using as little effort as possible, I'm still stronger...faster...and more powerful than ever before!":
https://i.imgur.com/vyiofCJ.jpg
______________________________________

Superman's amp was then explained...

Hamilton: "You're absorbing solar radiation --and other energies-- much faster than ever before! This is because you've been irradiated by something vaguely familiar to Kryptonite -- call it Kryptonite-X."

Superman: "The last time I was exposed to Kryptonite, it passed through the Eradiactor first... Recharging my powers instantly!"

Hamilton: "A bit of foreshadowing there, I'd say. Bluntly, there's no physical way to expend your energy fast enough. Your powers will keep increasing until your body can't contain them.":
https://i.imgur.com/O04ni6h.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kuppq8g.jpg
______________________________________

Superman himself mentioned his increased power during the H/P arc(before he had even obtained a MotherBox)...

"I'm better than before, too! Stronger.":
https://i.imgur.com/DNjZeeh.jpg
______________________________________

His amplified power during the H/P-era was reinforced again here...

"After his recovery, was stronger than ever. Good thing, too -- 'cause Doomsday had cheated death as well! Even with the extra power, he still needed some gizmo called a 'Mother Box' to help him stand up to Doomsday.":
https://i.imgur.com/xTntuCb.jpg
______________________________________

And of course, Superman continued to absorb/metabolize ALL forms of energy, pretty much unchecked... Which ultimately led to his bulky/overpowered form:
https://i.imgur.com/c1ZQVnk.jpg
Hey maybe I'm remembering wrong, but didn't something similar happen to him back before DOS when he got too close to the sun? I mean I know it's was basically the central theme of All Star Supes, but didn't something like that happen to early Post Crisis Supes too?

Originally posted by carver9
Funny you used the most recent scan of Superman being absorbed (even though your scan doesnt even say what you are indicating in your post). I wonder what you'll say if I poster a recent scan of Parasite absorption...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11131/111314550/6292261-overloads+parasite+1.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11131/111314550/6292262-overloads+parasite+2.jpg

And?

How about:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/103530/4758367-parasite1.jpg

That's the Speed Force there

Your scan doesn't say what yours says either hehe.

Edit: completely moot, btw.

Superman is Superman. PArasite is not the same as before. We have a mod ruling on Superman, not on Parasite.

Try harder

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And?

How about:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/103530/4758367-parasite1.jpg

That's the Speed Force there

Your scan doesn't say what yours says either hehe.

Edit: completely moot, btw.

Superman is Superman. PArasite is not the same as before. We have a mod ruling on Superman, not on Parasite.

Try harder

Your scan doesnt change the fact that Parasite was unable to absorb someone.

So that's all I need to post is Parasite before the reboot getting overloaded and you're ok with it?

Also, are you sure Superman during that era is just as strong as the Superman now? Be careful answering think. Think extremely hard.

Parasite decides to flee when he is threatened with the energy of a nuclear explosion.

https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_422211388?list=post-88180771_895
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_422211391?list=post-88180771_895
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_422211397?list=post-88180771_895
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_422211401?list=post-88180771_895

He runs and depletes the energy he stole. Lol... normal Paradite is then thrown in a cocoon and then dropped in a small explosion (even while protected) and he is koed from the blast.

Nice. I wish we saw more of this version. Im curious how he stacks uo in a big fight

I like how carver obviously Google'd "Parasite Respect Threads" and is skimming through them, avidly searching for any sort of 'low end' showings he can post to try and discredit Parasite... Because somehow that discredits this massively amped Superman? It's like the guy tries to go full-retard in every Hulk thread, lol.

Originally posted by carver9
Funny you used the most recent scan of Superman being absorbed (even though your scan doesnt even say what you are indicating in your post). I wonder what you'll say if I poster a recent scan of Parasite absorption...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11131/111314550/6292261-overloads+parasite+1.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11131/111314550/6292262-overloads+parasite+2.jpg DCnU Parasite =/= pre-Flashpoint Parasite.

They are entirely different characters, with entirely different origins. #Fail

Parasite koed with normal Superman energy on top of electricity. He couldnt handle all of the energy.

https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_425320442?list=post-88180771_956
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_425320446?list=post-88180771_956

So Carver

What's you're syaing is that Superman (base) has more energy than Superman Krpt X at peak?

Or am I missing your point?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
So Carver

What's you're syaing is that Superman (base) has more energy than Superman Krpt X at peak?

Or am I missing your point?

Did you read and look at the scans. Look at what happened, please.

Originally posted by carver9
Did you read and look at the scans. Look at what happened, please.
I'm reading what your explanation, sir


Based on those scans, you came to the conclusion that Superman and some bit of natural lighting was enough to overpower parasite, right?

Yet, we saw Superman X Krp get most of his energy absorbed by parasite.

So you made that post for obvious reason

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I'm reading what your explanation, sir


Based on those scans, you came to the conclusion that Superman and some bit of natural lighting was enough to overpower parasite, right?

Yet, we saw Superman X Krp get most of his energy absorbed by parasite.

So you made that post for obvious reason

Showing Parasite being overloaded. I made a post mentioning absorption between that version of Superman vs Hulk and someone disputed my comment which led to me posting what I posted.

Originally posted by carver9
Did you read and look at the scans. Look at what happened, please.

Be damned if I can remember what, but I'm certain there's some kind of context to this. The professor and Superman made it clear there was an odd repellant effect to his powers mixing with the electricity, and not that Parasite was overloaded with more power then he can hold.

I'd bet dollars to donuts this is related to Byrnes revamping of his abilities.

Originally posted by carver9
Showing Parasite being overloaded. I made a post mentioning absorption between that version of Superman vs Hulk and someone disputed my comment which led to me posting what I posted.


So going by that

The logic is

Parasite can't absorb Superman at his base level but he can absorb Superman when amp...

Originally posted by xJLxKing
So going by that

The logic is

Parasite can't absorb Superman at his base level but he can absorb Superman when amp...

So you're making up your own thing? If this is what you want to believe then I'm cool with it.

What IIIIIIIIII said was, Superman power ADDED WITH ELECTRICTY overloaded Parasite. I dont even know where you got Superman base from. What do you have beside you? Wine? Gin? Vodka? blunt? It has to be something that cause delusion.

He wasn't overloaded. It was said he expended his energy. That is not the same as overloading.

Originally posted by cdtm
He wasn't overloaded. It was said he expended his energy. That is not the same as overloading.

"He couldnt handle your energy on top of electricity". Yep, he most def got overloaded.

Originally posted by carver9
"He couldnt handle your energy on top of electricity". Yep, he most def got overloaded.

Wait, wut.

Lol.

Please re-read the scans again.

'The REPELLANT effect caused him to EXPEND all of his energy'......

It wasn't overloading him. The two energies, when mixed together, caused Parasite to expend all his energy.

Think of it as eating a crap ton of food....then drinking a ton of vodka (which is what I suspect you're doing now). Mix them together, and it causes you to vomit. Not because you can't handle your drink, or because you can't handle those burgers, but the two mixed together causes a reaction....

Originally posted by carver9
So you're making up your own thing? If this is what you want to believe then I'm cool with it.

What IIIIIIIIII said was, Superman power ADDED WITH ELECTRICTY overloaded Parasite. I dont even know where you got Superman base from. What do you have beside you? Wine? Gin? Vodka? blunt? It has to be something that cause delusion.

okay, so let me repeat...

What does
"Superman power ADDED WITH ELECTRICTY overloaded Parasite"

even add to your argument?

I think the scan can be somewhat misinterpreted because on one hand the doc says he couldn't handle both but immediately afterwards he mentioned the repellant effect

https://s5.postimg.cc/8ln5ur8xz/overload.jpg

The energies mixed together essentially caused Parasite to throw up, expending all of his energy.

Lol oh Carver.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I think the scan can be somewhat misinterpreted because on one hand the doc says he couldn't handle both but immediately afterwards he mentioned the repellant effect

They're not mutually exclusive statements, though.


Parasite couldn't handle both the energies, due to them mixing and causing a repellant effect. THAT effect is what then caused him to expend his energy.

Originally posted by carver9
Parasite decides to flee when he is threatened with the energy of a nuclear explosion.

https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_422211388?list=post-88180771_895
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_422211391?list=post-88180771_895
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_422211397?list=post-88180771_895
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_422211401?list=post-88180771_895

He runs and depletes the energy he stole. Lol... normal Paradite is then thrown in a cocoon and then dropped in a small explosion (even while protected) and he is koed from the blast.

"Well shit... That attempt to baselessly lowball didn't work, because I don't know how to read... So I'll try to pass this other cherry-picked scene off instead!"

Lol. This is carver9.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yep.


When Henshaw attempted to kill Supes via blasting him with k-nite, Eradicator jumped in the way of the blast before it directly touched Supes(essentially sacrificing himself), and the bleed-over energies then passed into Superman. After this happened, Supes was not only returned to full power, but he felt better than ever:
https://i.imgur.com/A5Fc715.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ZUOr1em.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/IMFlneF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/PpaVx4Q.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/JqED6sp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TL1K0F7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jsqwvoo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8uYRKnL.jpg
"I'm rejuvenated in a way I never thought possible! Something tells me I'll be able to handle anything better than ever!"
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Soon thereafter(the same month/year the H/P arc began), it would be revealed that Superman had become immensely more powerful. Examples...

"Just tapped him a little... And he flew back like I hit him with my best haymaker!":
https://i.imgur.com/KgUftR4.jpg

"Even using as little effort as possible, I'm still stronger...faster...and more powerful than ever before!":
https://i.imgur.com/vyiofCJ.jpg
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Superman's amp was then explained...

Hamilton: "You're absorbing solar radiation --and other energies-- much faster than ever before! This is because you've been irradiated by something vaguely familiar to Kryptonite -- call it Kryptonite-X."

Superman: "The last time I was exposed to Kryptonite, it passed through the Eradiactor first... Recharging my powers instantly!"

Hamilton: "A bit of foreshadowing there, I'd say. Bluntly, there's no physical way to expend your energy fast enough. Your powers will keep increasing until your body can't contain them.":
https://i.imgur.com/O04ni6h.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kuppq8g.jpg
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Superman himself mentioned his increased power during the H/P arc(before he had even obtained a MotherBox)...

"I'm better than before, too! Stronger.":
https://i.imgur.com/DNjZeeh.jpg
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His amplified power during the H/P-era was reinforced again here...

"After his recovery, was stronger than ever. Good thing, too -- 'cause Doomsday had cheated death as well! Even with the extra power, he still needed some gizmo called a 'Mother Box' to help him stand up to Doomsday.":
https://i.imgur.com/xTntuCb.jpg
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And of course, Superman continued to absorb/metabolize ALL forms of energy, pretty much unchecked... Which ultimately led to his bulky/overpowered form:
https://i.imgur.com/c1ZQVnk.jpg

I forgot how powerful Superman became.

Wouldn't this amp, even at this level, be utterly inconsequential to the multiple level of power tiers that Hulk jumped through World Breaker Hulk (Genuine Question)? In the HoM arc, it was like a DBZ arc. Hulk indirectly vaporized multiple characters who were amped multiple hundred of times themselves, who were previously amped before that IIRC and so on?

Superman's transformation was far more realistic and enjoyable in a more nuanced form, but I struggle to see how he can compete even remotely here? Superman probably grew a dozen times stronger from his already formidable amp in H/P, but Hulk had gotten hundreds of times stronger from his WWH levels which were already operating on a level that Superman (Non-amped) would have a real handful with.

I'll re-read HoM (I don't want to tbh), to get a clearer picture, but I remember on my second read through thinking, we'd reached a level where technically, he should one-shot (Indirectly) everyone below Galactus level as stupid as it sounds. The inconsequential prescence of Umar when her realm was destroyed IIRC suggests a level even past that as ridiculous as that sounds. But if we're going to debate it, we have to accept it within these parameters, and treat it as relevant. Greg Pak is like Herpes; you just have to deal with it, once you catch it.

I'm going to call the HoM arc, the green pill of comic books. Hulk is Hulk.

A dozen times?

If you use Parasite as a baseline, he managed to drain off Superman enough where he was completely at his mercy, and still had the upper hand later when he used the force field/electricity trick. Taking as much off his amped form had no effect at all, so we're talking baseline Superman levels as "drop in the bucket".
Because even at ten-twelve fold levels, an entire baselines worth should have "some" visable effect. A little shrinkage. But nope, nothing.

At the peak of his amp(when he was fully bulked up), Superman was several orders of magnitude beyond his 'standard' levels.

As the scans mention: even at the very beginning of his amp, Superman was using as little effort as possible, yet still stated he was stronger, faster, and more powerful than EVER before. The same Superman compared his lightest touch then with his most powerful haymaker before the amp.

...And again, that was just the beginning of his amp. By the end he'd become VASTLY stronger still -- to the point where even when he allowed Parasite to absorb "as much energy as ever before", it didn't even begin to start draining him.


Regardless, I'm sure carver will rush in soon and 'thumbs up' the shit out of your post, cuz Hulk. *sighs*

Im kinda unfamiliar with Parasite. Are his powers like Absorbing Man or more like Super Adaptoid?

A weak depleted Superman was withstanding attacks from this same Parasite that was amplified off of this amazing amp Superman...

https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_425321571?list=post-88180771_960
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_425321576?list=post-88180771_960
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_425321578?list=post-88180771_960
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_425321585?list=post-88180771_960
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_425321603?list=post-88180771_960
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_425321612?list=post-88180771_960

I feel confident an exhausted Superman would not endure a single punch from this Hulk. No matter how much you want to uplay him.

Originally posted by carver9
A weak depleted Superman was withstanding attacks from this same Parasite that was amplified off of this amazing amp Superman...

https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_425321571?list=post-88180771_960
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_425321576?list=post-88180771_960
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_425321578?list=post-88180771_960
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_425321585?list=post-88180771_960
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_425321603?list=post-88180771_960
https://m.vk.com/photo-88180771_425321612?list=post-88180771_960

I feel confident an exhausted Superman would not endure a single punch from this Hulk. No matter how much you want to uplay him.

Show the next scan.

Originally posted by cdtm
A dozen times?

If you use Parasite as a baseline, he managed to drain off Superman enough where he was completely at his mercy, and still had the upper hand later when he used the force field/electricity trick. Taking as much off his amped form had no effect at all, so we're talking baseline Superman levels as "drop in the bucket".
Because even at ten-twelve fold levels, an entire baselines worth should have "some" visable effect. A little shrinkage. But nope, nothing.
Originally posted by Galan007
At the peak of his amp(when he was fully bulked up), Superman was several orders of magnitude beyond his 'standard' levels.

As the scans mention: even at the very beginning of his amp, Superman was using as little effort as possible, yet still stated he was stronger, faster, and more powerful than EVER before. The same Superman compared his lightest touch then with his most powerful haymaker before the amp.

...And again, that was just the beginning of his amp. By the end he'd become VASTLY stronger still -- to the point where even when he allowed Parasite to absorb "as much energy as ever before", it didn't even begin to start draining him.


Regardless, I'm sure carver will rush in soon and 'thumbs up' the shit out of your post, cuz Hulk. *sighs*



I forgot about the Parasite example. That changes my measurement. That does indicate a bigger jump than I expected, but that also depends on what the energy limitations are of Parasite. It could be enough to make this more competitive, or it could be irrelevant. The multiples that we are dealing with here are pretty large. I unfortunately have an amalgamation of Parasite in my head, and don't remember his power levels of that era specifically unfortunately.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Im kinda unfamiliar with Parasite. Are his powers like Absorbing Man or more like Super Adaptoid?
Neither really, more Sauron or Powerhouse I believe. An basic energy vampire that becomes more powerful in general the more he absorbs.

Originally posted by cdtm
Show the next scan.

The next scene was weird because it looked like parasite uppercut him but one panel seems to depict supes carrying him into the air only for him to crash back to earth.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Neither really, more Sauron or Powerhouse I believe. An basic energy vampire that becomes more powerful in general the more he absorbs.

Oh ok awesome. Thx

Originally posted by cdtm
Show the next scan.

Why?

Originally posted by Galan007
"Well shit... That attempt to baselessly lowball didn't work, because I don't know how to read... So I'll try to pass this other cherry-picked scene off instead!"

Lol. This is carver9.

Lol aww. He's just ignored it and moved on. No acknowledgement, nothing. Cute.