Valiant Dr Solar Runs The Guantlet!

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ghostman
valiants solar man of the atom takes on these guys


1.magneto
2.post crisis superman
3.silver surfer
4.thanos
5.odin
6.mad jim jaspers
7. current molecule man


no bfr. valiant solar gets a break inbetween each round to recuperate

riv6672

Martian_mind
Valiant Solar is very overhyped, due to a rather...misleading respect thread. True, he does possess some very vast and esoteric abilities, and is more than capable of taking down most High Heralds/Trans, but in terms of combat situations, it's entirely believable that peak Odin would take him. Anything above leaves him completely outclassed. Hell, he'd have to get very creative just to defeat Thanos.

Putinbot1
Valiant Solar is not Dr. Solar and in my opinion, he isn't overhyped. But yes, he can be beaten. But no, he probably wouldn't be eventually.

riv6672

krisblaze
Better take back those words MM, or Galan will flip the **** out laughing out loud

riv6672
And that would be awful, not entertaining at ALL...whistle

Martian_mind
Originally posted by krisblaze
Better take back those words MM, or Galan will flip the **** out laughing out loud


Meh. In this particular case, he's either really misunderstood what he's reading, or just straight up lied through his teeth.

Galan007
I wasn't aware that posting a character's feats...that they preformed on panel...in a respect thread...equates to "lying through ones teeth", lol. What an unbelievably ignorant thing to say. laughing out loud

It's true that Valiant Solar didn't start out as the uber powerful being he eventually became -- he started out as a human n00b who was trying to acclimate to his newfound godhood throughout the series(a fact I have never questioned)... But acclimate to said power he most certainly DID by the end of the series(and beyond.)

I would WELCOME you to try and prove me wrong, but I know you can't... It's much easier to passive aggressively talk shit, lol. smile


Anywho, peak Valiant Solar can get to #6-7. If OP intended this to be n00b Solar, then it's a different matter entirely.

ghostman
yeah this is peak solar. not noob

Putinbot1
I always wondered by Solar the Destroyer did not develop half as much in his very long flight of revenge.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Galan007
I wasn't aware that posting a character's feats...that they preformed on panel...in a respect thread...equates to "lying through ones teeth", lol. What an unbelievably ignorant thing to say. laughing out loud

It's true that Valiant Solar didn't start out as the uber powerful being he eventually became -- he started out as a human n00b who was trying to acclimate to his newfound godhood throughout the series(a fact I have never questioned)... But acclimate to said power he most certainly DID by the end of the series(and beyond.)

I would WELCOME you to try and prove me wrong, but I know you can't... It's much easier to passive aggressively talk shit, lol. smile


Anywho, peak Valiant Solar can get to #6-7. If OP intended this to be n00b Solar, then it's a different matter entirely.

Okay, liar. Challenge accepted. smile

Here is your respect thread.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t463356.html

Now, as I'm moving internationally tomorrow, I don't have time to address ALL the lies and misdirection you've placed into this thread, which is actually quite staggering in scope. So, I will begin by targeting the most glaring, which is namely your..."interpretation" of Dan Jurgen's run.

Now, for the uninitiated, Jurgen's run can be read here: https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Solar-Man-of-the-Atom/Issue-46?id=75589

I suggest reading it yourself, as it is quite good, quite involved, and Galan has told some whoppers in his, heh, recollections.



These are direct claims Galan has made in the respect thread, using scans that are grossly out of context. While, yes, Solar did travel back in time, he never outright recreated another reality or earth. He simply found an infant world, and steered it's development in a way similar to our own. He doesn't have the power to do anything else. How do we know?

Because he said outright says so

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Solar-Man-of-the-Atom/Issue-49?id=75593#17


Galan conveniently left this scan out of the respect thread. In actual fact, he has surgically removed several important points, solely in order to make Solar appear more powerful. For while Solar DID steer the genetics of the world he inhabited for BILLIONS of years, he certainly had nothing to do with the development of EVERY superpowered being in the Valiant universe...that's just another lie, and I defy Galan to prove otherwise smile

Even more laughable is his "Proof" That Solar destroyed/recreated an entire universe. The two scans he uses? The woman speaking? That's a ****ing program created by Solar's psychiatrist to make him feel as guilty as possible.

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Solar-Man-of-the-Atom/Issue-59?id=75612#5
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Solar-Man-of-the-Atom/Issue-59?id=75612#10
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Solar-Man-of-the-Atom/Issue-59?id=75612#12
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Solar-Man-of-the-Atom/Issue-59?id=75612#15
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Solar-Man-of-the-Atom/Issue-59?id=75612#16
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Solar-Man-of-the-Atom/Issue-59?id=75612#17
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Solar-Man-of-the-Atom/Issue-59?id=75612#18
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Solar-Man-of-the-Atom/Issue-59?id=75612#19
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Solar-Man-of-the-Atom/Issue-59?id=75612#20


We know for a fact that Solar didn't create the Valiant Universe. Why? Because for one thing, Valiant's editor in chief has gone on the record as saying as much. For a second, Solar himself has stated that he lacks the power to create so much as a world, and note that by this point, Solar had lived for billionS of years, and knew his limits inside and out. The final nail in the coffin, however, is that the universe already existed by the time Solar destroyed his original home. We were ****ing shown this on-panel, for god's sake. In Secrets of the Valiant Universe, issue 2, we are shown that Master Darque was alive in the Valiant reality at the time of Solar's meltdown, as he was able to feed of the Billions of souls (A number which confirms that Solar only destroyed his earth, not the universe) that were killed.

Now, as I said, I'm a bit pressed for time, so I can't dig further atm, however, once I am settled, I will be happy to further show the extent of Galan's bullshit.

Your move, liar smile.

Martian_mind
Found the Valiant Universe scans proving that it already existed prior to Solar, if anyone is interested.

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Secrets-of-the-Valiant-Universe/Issue-1?id=117914#28
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Secrets-of-the-Valiant-Universe/Issue-1?id=117914#29

So yeah, that's definitely a lie smile.

Galan007
Eh, the scans I posted there state EXACTLY what I said, lol.

That Solar traveled back in time to help shape a new reality and guide its course. This act ultimately resulted in the creation of Valiant's super-powered beings. That IS a fact, lol.

You're trying to nitpick posts I made, what? 10+ years ago, to try and make me out as a "liar" now? Lol, that's pretty pathetic, tbh. I never took you for an angry, butthurt troll... Apparently I was wrong. smile

Martian_mind
That's an awfully pathetic way of admitting you're a liar, lol. I also see you're too cowardly to address the other lies I pointed out, such as you attempting to pass off that hallucination as proof, your claims that Solar created EVERY super-powered being in Valiant, and your claim that he created the entire Valiant universe. I also had a hearty laugh at you attempting to pass off such obvious attempts at lying and misdirection as "nitpicking". I went into a thread, and pointed out that people didn't know the character, as some cowardly, lying scumbag has filled their heads with his bullshit. When pressed by said lying, cowardly scumbag, I then expended a *very* moderate amount of effort to back up my words.

That you are so full of shit, and so unable to admit this fact...well, I'd say that simply speaks volumes about your character. It's a shame, really.

Thank you for the sheer display of triggered butthurt in your post, however. Seeing a liar's meltdown once they're caught out is always delicious.

thumb up

Galan007
Ah, more butthurt trollery, lol.

Anyway, I didn't lie in that post at all -- I posted exactly what happened. You are the one attempting to add context to my post that simply isn't there, so you can call me a "liar".

It's funny, though. You go full rage-mode in your posts, and then accuse ME of having a "meltdown"? Classic troll-logic, right there. thumb up


Stay angry. laughing out loud

Martian_mind
Still dodging the claims? Tell me Galan, did Solar create the Valiant Universe, as you said? Did he create ALL superhumans in the Valiant universe, as you said? Did you not use scans out of context to lie about his power?

Can you address these, oh cowardly, pathetic liar?

Galan007
As I said in the very post you quoted: he went back in time and helped shape reality and guide its course. This act ultimately resulted in the creation of Valiant's super-powered beings.

Again, you're going full rage/troll-mode and trying to add context to a decade-old post that simply isn't there. You can call me a "pathetic liar" all you want... Couldn't care less. It ultimately just makes you look like an angry troll who is trying WAAAY too hard to 'prove' their non-point.

Settle down, big guy. smile

Putinbot1
Is what's going on here real? Take it to pm guys seriously nobody cares really.

Galan007
You'll have to take that up with MM. He's the one who decided to go on this little tirade. thumb up

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Galan007
As I said in the very post you quoted: he went back in time and helped shape reality. This act ultimately resulted in the creation of Valiant's super-powered beings.

Again, you're going full rage/troll-mode and trying to add context to a decade-old post that simply isn't there. You can call me a "pathetic liar" all you want... Couldn't care less. It ultimately just makes you look like an angry troll who is trying WAAAY too hard to 'prove' their non-point.

Settle down, big guy. smile


I'm fine, actually. Entertained at how sad you are, and feeling a little sorry for you, but that's about the scope of my emotions. As to adding context, well, it's somewhat necessary, isn't it? I mean, you DID lie, and just lack the character to admit it. That you keep trying to misdirect by insulting me, well, that's just pathetic.

Again, you are lying about Solar creating EVERY superhuman in Valiant. He only aided the evolution of that specific planet. It is said so on panel.

You lied about the scans, and about his creation of the Valiant universe. Pointing that out isn't trolling, lol. This is a comic DEBATING forum. If your ego is so fragile you can't handle being called out, well, maybe this isn't the place for you...?

Galan007
Wait, what? Who's insulting who here? Good lord, the denial is truly unreal. laughing out loud

Again, the scans I posted state EXACTLY what I said. You're trying to add context to my post that isn't there, so you can call me a "cowardly pathetic liar." I'm not "misdirecting" anything -- in fact, I have directly addressed your 'problem' multiple times now. You're just choosing to ignore my responses in favor of trolling(or whatever it is that you're doing here, lol.)

You're just reeeeally angry for some reason, so you're blindly lashing out. I get it. Don't start throwing e-tantrums when I point out how trollish/childish you are acting, though. thumb up

Martian_mind
Cute. You're still dodging the points though.

You were lying about the scans regarding Solar destroying reality.

You are lying about Solar creating every superhuman.

The longer you try to avoid addressing this, the sadder you become. Which again, is hilarious for me.

So keep it up, son. thumb up

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Galan007
You'll have to take that up with MM. He's the one who decided to go on this little tirade. thumb up Come on old pal, it's pointless getting into these things.

Galan007
^ You're right, Whirl. It is a complete waste of time... Trolls will be trolls.

I'm done. thumb up

Martian_mind
And the coward runs. How predictable.

Oh well, the scans are there, plain to see. Hopefully people are now better informed.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Galan007
^ You're right, Whirl. It is a complete waste of time... Trolls will be trolls.

I'm done. thumb up Good good mate and to Martian Mind, I've always enjoyed your posts, even if you feel Galan has done something wrong, which I don't see, this is very unlike a guy as smart as you.

Eon Blue
These entertaining debacles are what keep me coming back to KMC. Cheers mates.

panthergod
I love the smoke. smokin'

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