Ricardo Martinez vs Jose Mendoza

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cdtm
Apex world champ of Ippo vs apex world champ of Joe.

Personally, I like Mendoza a lot more as a character. Family man who seems larger then life. Arrogant in his way, yet also a class act. It's hard not to like him.

Dark-Kenshin
Originally posted by cdtm
Apex world champ of Ippo vs apex world champ of Joe.

Personally, I like Mendoza a lot more as a character. Family man who seems larger then life. Arrogant in his way, yet also a class act. It's hard not to like him. Don't know anything about Mendoza. How broken is he compared to el Diablo?

cdtm
Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
Don't know anything about Mendoza. How broken is he compared to el Diablo?

He's known for just standing there and letting the #1 contender wail on him. Then finishing it in two one or two blows.

Carlos Rivera, a guy who fought Joe to a standstill, was hit in the head with a corkscrew so hard, it created a hole the size of a fist and crippled him for life.

Joe himself was one shot, and tried to sucker punch him when he came to shake hands before a march. He caught Joe's hand, forced it into a handshake, and grabbed his shoulder hard enough to make an imprint, with minimal visible effort.

Dark-Kenshin
Originally posted by cdtm
He's known for just standing there and letting the #1 contender wail on him. Then finishing it in two one or two blows.

Carlos Rivera, a guy who fought Joe to a standstill, was hit in the head with a corkscrew so hard, it created a hole the size of a fist and crippled him for life.

Joe himself was one shot, and tried to sucker punch him when he came to shake hands before a march. He caught Joe's hand, forced it into a handshake, and grabbed his shoulder hard enough to make an imprint, with minimal visible effort. Just watched the whole Joe vs Jose match on YouTube. I think that is Mori's blueprint for how Sendo is going to go out against Martinez (minus the fight being even since I still think Martinez will dominate a majority of the match). A good way to kill him off and end this stupid "broken Ippo" subplot.

As to the thread, Jose is definitely stronger and more resilient , but Martinez has a huge edge in technical skill. I do not see Joe getting in the kind of licks he got in against Mendoza if he fights Martinez. Joe will spend most of the match trying to get past Martinez's left and no amount of "spirit" is gonna let that happen. We see the level of skill you need against world champs in Ippo with the Vorg vs Elliot fight. 4D chess basically. And using Ippo logic, Martinez will be able to spam his left in what looks like 10 feet away. laughing out loud

Mendoza can take about as much a beating as Takamura from the looks of it, but Martinez will win on points. The dude is pretty much a well oiled machine.

Excluding Takamura, Martinez, Vorg, Prime Itagaki and Woli, I think Mendoza and Joe would whoop just about anyone else in the Ippo verse.

Bentley
I don't know how Itagaki makes the anti-Mendoza ranking and Miyata doesn't. Unexperienced Woli would also go down like a chump.

Dark-Kenshin
Prime Itagaki has got superhuman bullet time reflexes. His loss to Imai made no sense (especially given that Itagaki is already aware of Imai's counter given that he saw Ippo do it in the Karasawa fight) and screamed of being an editorial decision to gut the character. Otherwise, he is haxx and was probably the best contender for world champion prior to his loss. Which is probably why Mori toned him down.

As to Woli, I'm thinking post Ippo Woli. I don't think he could knock out Joe or Jose, but I definitely think he could take more rounds than he lost and win on points.

As to Miyata, he is trash at the moment as of the latest manga chapter. Getting his ass beat by some no name bum. Jose would annihilate Miyata in one round and would crush Ippo in 10 seconds.

Bentley

cdtm
A point for Mendoza:

He gave Joe his worst beating of the series, by far. Joe died from it. Granted, that was the result of cumulative damage, but still...


And the man he killed, tanked punch's from Rikishi. Who, very early in the series, knocked out PIGS AND BULLS.

We're talking a stampede of pigs here. Joe's definitive rival stood right in front of the herd, danced around them, and proceeded to one shot each into unconsciousness.

And Joe took punch after punch, back when he had relatively little skill.


That's some Takamura level bs. THAT is who Mendoza beat to death.

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