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Round1: New 52 Superman vs Normal Nate Grey

Round2: Post Crisis Superman vs Shaman Nate Grey

Round:3 OWAW Superman vs Phoenix Nate Grey


Which will win?

Nate stomps all round?

Supes

Nate

Split

Originally posted by riv6672
Supes

Nate

Split
Post Crisis Superman has descent mental resistance feat.

Can't he resist Shaman Nate's mind attack?

Nate.

Originally posted by CatL18
Post Crisis Superman has descent mental resistance feat.

Can't he resist Shaman Nate's mind attack?
Resist, maybe. Overcome, no, imo.

Nate, all rounds.

^^^owtch!
I think that first one favors Supes. Mental powers are so hax, though!

Originally posted by riv6672
Resist, maybe. Overcome, no, imo.
Superman has overcome universal or multiversal mind attack.
Are they outlier and should be ignored?

Originally posted by riv6672
^^^owtch!
I think that first one favors Supes. Mental powers are so hax, though! Not really, normal Nate still has his TELEPATHY, Superman is potent in specific areas, but his resistance towards Telepathy is absolutely inconsistent, for every his great mind resistance, there is another for where he fails, plus this is Nate Grey we are talking about it, Superman is not the character that is capable to resist such force.

Not only that Pre-Shaman Nate's Telekinesis can shut down other people's powers, he can basically turn off Superman's power if he wants basically - http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11115/111152067/3924015-xmanannual1996page15imagc4.jpg

Even in Pre-Shaman days, Nate still had molecular level telekinesis - http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11115/111152067/3924047-xman03509xp6.jpg
Turns glass into sand - http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11115/111152067/3924074-xman03307jn9.jpg
Recreates Gwen Stacy - http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11115/111152067/3924054-xman03714hc4.jpg
Recreates Madelyne - http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11115/111152067/3924057-x-man_025_p29.jpg

Pre-Shaman Nate can also stop time - http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11115/111152067/3924050-cable03009.jpg

Become intagible - http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11115/111152067/3924712-xman2320xc6.jpg

and etc.... he has enough powers to take on Superman even if it is Regular Nate.

Originally posted by CatL18
Superman has overcome universal or multiversal mind attack.
Are they outlier and should be ignored?
Are they, yes. Ignored, no. Used as average showings, no. Will they be though, yes, imo.

Originally posted by MaZeRaIII
Not really, normal Nate still has his TELEPATHY, Superman is potent in specific areas, but his resistance towards Telepathy is absolutely inconsistent, for every his great mind resistance, there is another for where he fails, plus this is Nate Grey we are talking about it, Superman is not the character that is capable to resist such force.

Not only that Pre-Shaman Nate's Telekinesis can shut down other people's powers, he can basically turn off Superman's power if he wants basically - http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11115/111152067/3924015-xmanannual1996page15imagc4.jpg

Even in Pre-Shaman days, Nate still had molecular level telekinesis - http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11115/111152067/3924047-xman03509xp6.jpg
Turns glass into sand - http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11115/111152067/3924074-xman03307jn9.jpg
Recreates Gwen Stacy - http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11115/111152067/3924054-xman03714hc4.jpg
Recreates Madelyne - http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11115/111152067/3924057-x-man_025_p29.jpg

Pre-Shaman Nate can also stop time - http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11115/111152067/3924050-cable03009.jpg

Become intagible - http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11115/111152067/3924712-xman2320xc6.jpg

and etc.... he has enough powers to take on Superman even if it is Regular Nate.
Supertman has resisted universal or multiversal mental attack.
They are high-end feat though, you can't ignore them.

And,you don't prove that Nate's telekinesis negate Superman's power.
It seems to be X-factor(mutant power) negation.
You must prove that his negation can work on other metahuman who is not mutant.

And, Superman has attosecond speed feat.he can kill Nate before he does something.

Originally posted by CatL18
Supertman has resisted universal or multiversal mental attack.
They are high-end feat though, you can't ignore them.

I actually can, by the mere facts, that those are inconsistent for Superman, and for every resistance feats he has far more where he fails to resist, but of course we are gonna ignore far more consistent instances of him failing for the sake of wanking certain character obviouslly

Do i really need to cite countless times he fails against mental attacks, there are plenty examples to draw and you know that.

Originally posted by CatL18


And,you don't prove that Nate's telekinesis negate Superman's power.
It seems to be X-factor(mutant power) negation.
You must prove that his negation can work on other metahuman who is not mutant.

*sigh*, acting dense i see.

Nate negated Magnus's power, it doesn't matter what he did there, the core remains the same he can negate super-powers with TK, you saying he messed with X-gene is headcanon with no evidence, you made that claim, then please back it up with facts then headcanon.

Also Superman's powers are also GENETIC based as well, so even if Nate negates X-gene, then the argument still remains the same, all he has to do is telekinetically shut down the gene that grants Superman his solar absorbing powers, simple as it can get.


Originally posted by CatL18

And, Superman has attosecond speed feat.he can kill Nate before he does something.

More fan-fictions, please. Superman has no legit attosecond feats, plus Nate can STOP TIME, speed is irrelevant here.

Originally posted by MaZeRaIII
I actually can, by the mere facts, that those are inconsistent for Superman, and for every resistance feats he has far more where he fails to resist, but of course we are gonna ignore far more consistent instances of him failing for the sake of wanking certain character obviouslly

Do i really need to cite countless times he fails against mental attacks, there are plenty examples to draw and you know that.
Typical lowballing.
Low-end Feats doesn't debunk high-end feats.

Originally posted by MaZeRaIII

*sigh*, acting dense i see.

Nate negated Magnus's power, it doesn't matter what he did there, the core remains the same he can negate super-powers with TK, you saying he messed with X-gene is headcanon with no evidence, you made that claim, then please back it up with facts then headcanon.
Also Superman's powers are also GENETIC based as well, so even if Nate negates X-gene, then the argument still remains the same, all he has to do is telekinetically shut down the gene that grants Superman his solar absorbing powers, simple as it can get.
As I said, negating mutant's power doesn't prove that it can work on other meta human, not mutant.
You must show the feat that Nate's TK can work on metahuman,not mutant.
Even if he can negate Superman's Power, Superman can speedblitz Nate before he does.

Originally posted by MaZeRaIII

More fan-fictions, please. Superman has no legit attosecond feats, plus Nate can STOP TIME, speed is irrelevant here.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-5805303
Superman speedblitz Nate before he can time stop

Originally posted by MaZeRaIII
I actually can, by the mere facts, that those are inconsistent for Superman, and for every resistance feats he has far more where he fails to resist, but of course we are gonna ignore far more consistent instances of him failing for the sake of wanking certain character obviouslly According to forum rules, we go by what the character can do at his best. Low-balling isn't allowed, for Superman, for Flash, or for anybody. Superman has documented high-end telepathic resistance. If you don't like the rules, be careful when the door closes.

Originally posted by riv6672
According to forum rules, we go by what the character can do at his best. Low-balling isn't allowed, for Superman, for Flash, or for anybody. Superman has documented high-end telepathic resistance. If you don't like the rules, be careful when the door closes.


You seem to unable understand difference between CONSISTENCY AND LOWBALLING, but don't worry you are not the only one with such inability - but anyways lowballings are defined as rare type showcased feats which contradict character's estabilished power-level, but consistency are feats and instances that constantly happen and are consistent with character, Superman's telepathic resistance falls into second category, he has at best 2 decent resistance feats, but on the other hand he has 10+ feats failing against telepathy, consistency is the better overall.

Originally posted by MaZeRaIII
You seem to unable understand difference between CONSISTENCY AND LOWBALLING

No, it's low-balling.

Example:


Originally posted by MaZeRaIII
he has at best 2 decent resistance feats This is not true.

Keep lying, and you will be reported

Originally posted by MaZeRaIII
Superman's telepathic resistance falls into second category, he has at best 2 decent resistance feats, but on the other hand he has 10+ feats failing against telepathy, consistency is the better overall.
Care to list those? Scans or issue numbers will suffice.

Originally posted by CatL18
Typical lowballing.
Low-end Feats doesn't debunk high-end feats.

Another person who doesn't understand the difference between consistency and lowballing, so i'll repeat what i said already.

" You seem to unable understand difference between CONSISTENCY AND LOWBALLING, but don't worry you are not the only one with such inability - but anyways lowballings are defined as rare type showcased feats which contradict character's estabilished power-level, but consistency are feats and instances that constantly happen and are consistent with character, Superman's telepathic resistance falls into second category, he has at best 2 decent resistance feats, but on the other hand he has 10+ feats failing against telepathy, consistency is the better overall. "

Lowballing = rare type feats contradicting character's estabilished power.
Consistency= similar feats which constantly happen on regular basis.

So no offence, but all these instances don't classify as lowballing.

Brainiac - https://imgur.com/a/vyEtcYC
Doomsday - https://imgur.com/a/bnRe76K
Grodd - https://imgur.com/a/xCGFsfP
Manchester Black - https://imgur.com/a/tTn5Hes
Random Monkey - https://imgur.com/a/PAXPqYZ
White Martian - https://imgur.com/a/dQibWXu
Another random person with TP - https://imgur.com/a/nTiw8IZ
Martian Manhunter - https://imgur.com/a/zper4zx
Hector Hammond - https://imgur.com/a/lGB6ifp
Another girl with TP - https://imgur.com/a/24ISNJa
Little girl with TP - https://imgur.com/a/ZpeggIb
Another random villain with TP - https://imgur.com/a/EkKt4Vf
Martian Manhunter, again - https://imgur.com/a/RA3RmKp
Brainiac, again - https://imgur.com/a/MdlBp5m
Martian Manhunter, again - https://imgur.com/a/5Mm1bYW
Max Lord - https://imgur.com/a/F06UiRJ
Dracula - https://imgur.com/a/znZsyu4
and etc...

Originally posted by CatL18
As I said, negating mutant's power doesn't prove that it can work on other meta human, not mutant.
You must show the feat that Nate's TK can work on metahuman,not mutant.
Even if he can negate Superman's Power, Superman can speedblitz Nate before he does.


Again, both mutants powers and Superman's powers are GENETIC based, it's their unique DNA which gives them their powers, so once again it's a proper equivalency, since both are super-powered creatures with genetic based abilities, so it will work, simple as that.

Blitz Nate, yes, good luck with that, against the person who can STOP TIME, and doesn't need body to function ala astral self.

Originally posted by CatL18
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-5805303
Superman speedblitz Nate before he can time stop


So some scan with no valid confirmation source, show me the SOURCE where that interview or something happened.

Again, Supes is not the type of person who blitzes from the get go, nor is he that fast to blitz before time gets stopped.

I never got all the hoopla with Nate. Seemed at best almost top tier to me, but people play him up like the second coming of Baz both in comics and out.

Superman should be able to just waltz up and punch his face off imo. Probably not Phoenix Nate though.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Care to list those? Scans or issue numbers will suffice.

Sure, how about 17 instances.
Brainiac - https://imgur.com/a/vyEtcYC
Doomsday - https://imgur.com/a/bnRe76K
Grodd - https://imgur.com/a/xCGFsfP
Manchester Black - https://imgur.com/a/tTn5Hes
Random Monkey - https://imgur.com/a/PAXPqYZ
White Martian - https://imgur.com/a/dQibWXu
Another random person with TP - https://imgur.com/a/nTiw8IZ
Martian Manhunter - https://imgur.com/a/zper4zx
Hector Hammond - https://imgur.com/a/lGB6ifp
Another girl with TP - https://imgur.com/a/24ISNJa
Little girl with TP - https://imgur.com/a/ZpeggIb
Another random villain with TP - https://imgur.com/a/EkKt4Vf
Martian Manhunter, again - https://imgur.com/a/RA3RmKp
Brainiac, again - https://imgur.com/a/MdlBp5m
Martian Manhunter, again - https://imgur.com/a/5Mm1bYW
Max Lord - https://imgur.com/a/F06UiRJ
Dracula - https://imgur.com/a/znZsyu4
and etc...

There are more of course.

Originally posted by MaZeRaIII
Once again proving that you don't understand difference between CONSISTENCY AND LOWBALLING I will debate you on this:
"he has at best 2 decent resistance feats"

With a ban on the line.

Agree?

Also, this:
Originally posted by MaZeRaIII
Sure, how about 17 instances.
Brainiac - https://imgur.com/a/vyEtcYC
Doomsday - https://imgur.com/a/bnRe76K
Grodd - https://imgur.com/a/xCGFsfP
Manchester Black - https://imgur.com/a/tTn5Hes
Random Monkey - https://imgur.com/a/PAXPqYZ
White Martian - https://imgur.com/a/dQibWXu
Another random person with TP - https://imgur.com/a/nTiw8IZ
Martian Manhunter - https://imgur.com/a/zper4zx
Hector Hammond - https://imgur.com/a/lGB6ifp
Another girl with TP - https://imgur.com/a/24ISNJa
Little girl with TP - https://imgur.com/a/ZpeggIb
Another random villain with TP - https://imgur.com/a/EkKt4Vf
Martian Manhunter, again - https://imgur.com/a/RA3RmKp
Brainiac, again - https://imgur.com/a/MdlBp5m
Martian Manhunter, again - https://imgur.com/a/5Mm1bYW
Max Lord - https://imgur.com/a/F06UiRJ
Dracula - https://imgur.com/a/znZsyu4
and etc...

There are more of course.

Is also straight up-trolling, given the context in all of them.

For example..

You use a single page of Doomsday-Brainiac blasting him, when:
1). He didn't know that Brainiac was in Doomsday, and it took him by surprise.
2). All that blast did is a memory transfer, and Superman was still casually standing:
https://imgur.com/a/gLl7ahr
https://imgur.com/a/36tc4vi
https://imgur.com/a/6e0WwyU

You actually use Max Lord when in your own scan he specifically says it took him years to take control:
https://i.imgur.com/mbj9OrL.jpg

You use Manchester Black's illusions, when Manchester Black's TP had to surprise Superman at his weakest just to find out his secret identity:
https://i.imgur.com/T2BXOER.jpg

You use White Martians, when Superman specifically plowed through their TP when he realized they were Martians and had TP. Superman has basic knowledge of Nate, so he knows to resist.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/103537/2677740-2.png

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-eb773dce3c5a024642bee0056388f41c.webp
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6ceb35dcbd3fcf962b7a302027443980.webp

etc.

You crop out scans, you leave out context, you have no idea of the characters you're even posting about "little girl, this guy".

Quite pathetic, actually.

Random Villain Medusa Mask

Originally posted by One Big Mob
I never got all the hoopla with Nate. Seemed at best almost top tier to me, but people play him up like the second coming of Baz both in comics and out.

Superman should be able to just waltz up and punch his face off imo. Probably not Phoenix Nate though.

nate is pretty awesome. he def has some of the best tp/tk feats in marvel if we discount cosmic characters. at the end of his series when he assumed the shaman role his powers were droolio. i've always been a big nate guy. i can see him winning a couple here, but i think he'd need to use ALL his powers and use them very well. if they fought 10 times, i could see him getting wrecked in the first few but i think he would be able to figure out a way to take superman down once he saw what he could do. i know that's not how the forum works, but that's sort of what i can see happening. he's def capable of pulling off a black-style stroke, for example, but he would never do that at the outset. once kal blew up his shields and powered through his tp it'd be too late, but he could learn enough to get him later. imo.

What am I reading ?

Our Lord & Savior Superman losing a fight in this forum ???? >_<

Originally posted by RealityWarper
What am I reading ?

Our Lord & Savior Superman losing a fight in this forum ???? >_< Far from it!

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Far from it!

Superman has far more instance being badly wrecked by psionic attacks than the opposite...

Our Lord & Savior is losing ! > _ <

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Random Villain Medusa Mask Just saw this, and lol'd.

This one made me laugh the most:
https://imgur.com/a/zper4zx

A close second is Dracula.

It's like he google searched "Superman weak TP!!1" and posted the first scans that popped up.

The Grodd one is hilarious, too, since he left out the fact that he was amped, and did the exact same thing to Martian Manhunter and Aquaman :
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/39274660/GroddAmp0.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/39274661/GroddAmp1.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/39274662/GroddAmp2.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/39274663/GroddAmp3.jpg.html

There's literally zero effort, in any of his posts, it's incredible.

A veritable 'throw as much shit as you can trying to tire everybody'.

Ick.

I only clicked a couple scans just to see. Mostly the "no name" scans and the monkey one.
I realized quickly that anything that even registered to Superman was counted regardless of context. Might as well post everytime he felt a punch and say he gets knocked out by Aquaman.

Meh.

Without Round3, Superman has enough mental resistance feats and speed feats to defeat Nate. I think

Originally posted by MaZeRaIII
Another person who doesn't understand the difference between consistency and lowballing, so i'll repeat what i said already.

" You seem to unable understand difference between CONSISTENCY AND LOWBALLING, but don't worry you are not the only one with such inability - but anyways lowballings are defined as rare type showcased feats which contradict character's estabilished power-level, but consistency are feats and instances that constantly happen and are consistent with character, Superman's telepathic resistance falls into second category, he has at best 2 decent resistance feats, but on the other hand he has 10+ feats failing against telepathy, consistency is the better overall. "

Lowballing = rare type feats contradicting character's estabilished power.
Consistency= similar feats which constantly happen on regular basis.

So no offence, but all these instances don't classify as lowballing.

Brainiac - https://imgur.com/a/vyEtcYC
Doomsday - https://imgur.com/a/bnRe76K
Grodd - https://imgur.com/a/xCGFsfP
Manchester Black - https://imgur.com/a/tTn5Hes
Random Monkey - https://imgur.com/a/PAXPqYZ
White Martian - https://imgur.com/a/dQibWXu
Another random person with TP - https://imgur.com/a/nTiw8IZ
Martian Manhunter - https://imgur.com/a/zper4zx
Hector Hammond - https://imgur.com/a/lGB6ifp
Another girl with TP - https://imgur.com/a/24ISNJa
Little girl with TP - https://imgur.com/a/ZpeggIb
Another random villain with TP - https://imgur.com/a/EkKt4Vf
Martian Manhunter, again - https://imgur.com/a/RA3RmKp
Brainiac, again - https://imgur.com/a/MdlBp5m
Martian Manhunter, again - https://imgur.com/a/5Mm1bYW
Max Lord - https://imgur.com/a/F06UiRJ
Dracula - https://imgur.com/a/znZsyu4
and etc...
It is lowballing
Lowballing=ignoring high-end feats, based on low-end feats.
You can't ignore high-end showing because According to forum rules, we go by what the character can do at his best.



Originally posted by MaZeRaIII

Again, both mutants powers and Superman's powers are GENETIC based, it's their unique DNA which gives them their powers, so once again it's a proper equivalency, since both are super-powered creatures with genetic based abilities, so it will work, simple as that.

Blitz Nate, yes, good luck with that, against the person who can STOP TIME, and doesn't need body to function ala astral self.
Can you understand that Superman speedblitz before Nate does something?

Originally posted by MaZeRaIII

So some scan with no valid confirmation source, show me the SOURCE where that interview or something happened.

http://i.imgur.com/V9uQFjW.jpg
According to this writer, https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-5805303

So, It was proven that Superman can speedbltz at attoseconds

It's not lowballing when it happens all the time...

When it happens all the time that's called STANDARD...

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/standard

"something set up and established by authority as a rule for the measure of quantity, weight, extent, value, or quality "


For example:

"OH MY GOD ! OUR LORD AND SAVIOR SUPERMAN LOSES ALL THE TIME AGAINST PSIONICS ! THAT'S STANDARD !"

Originally posted by RealityWarper
It's not lowballing when it happens all the time...

When it happens all the time that's called STANDARD...

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/standard

"something set up and established by authority as a rule for the measure of quantity, weight, extent, value, or quality "


For example:

"OH MY GOD ! OUR LORD AND SAVIOR SUPERMAN LOSES ALL THE TIME AGAINST PSIONICS ! THAT'S STANDARD !"
Typical trolling
Superman doesn't always lose to Psionics or other mental attack.
He often resist them.
Ignoring them is typical lowballing like you always do against every character without Sentry
In recent story line, He overcome even Parallax's posession,

Originally posted by CatL18
Typical trolling
Superman doesn't always lose to Psionics or other mental attack.
He often resist them.

He was far more often wrecked by them.

We can bring statistics if you want.

We can compare how many times he has been wrecked to how many times he has resisted them.





"Like I always do"

Ok; dude.

You are the one saying that we have to ignore over 18 instances of Superman being raped telepathically for 3 times he resisted it...

Let's bring the statistics for that:

On 21 times Superman has been telepathically assaulted, he resisted 3 times.

That means that Superman resisted 15 % of the time (with that statistic) and that also means that he was mentally raped 85 % of the time.






Which has nothing to do with telepathically controlling him.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
He was far more often wrecked by them.

We can bring statistics if you want.

We can compare how many times he has been wrecked to how many times he has resisted them.
And, low-end feats don't debunk high-end feats.



So, do it.
We can post more feats that Superman has resisted every form of mentak attack.
You intentionally ignore that Superman has many many telepathic resistance feats.

Originally posted by RealityWarper

"Like I always do"

Ok; dude.

You are the one saying that we have to ignore over 18 instances of Superman being raped telepathically for 3 times he resisted it...

Let's bring the statistics for that:

On 21 times Superman has been telepathically assaulted, he resisted 3 times.

That means that Superman resisted 15 % of the time (with that statistic) and that also means that he was mentally raped 85 % of the time.

They are enough to debunk your typical trolling.
and, We can post more.

Originally posted by RealityWarper

Which has nothing to do with telepathically controlling him.
Posession is one of mental attack like telepathy though.
Superman can resist through sheer willpower.

Originally posted by CatL18
So, do it.
We can post more feats that Superman has resisted every form of mentak attack.
You intentionally ignore that Superman has many many telepathic resistance feats.

I've just did it.




You have just been debunked by it.



Sure, less than 15 % of the time and I'm vastly highballing it.

Superman has more than enough instances of resisting telepaths for it to be a pattern rather than a coincidence. It doesn't make him immune. It doesn't mean an auto-win. It does, however, establish a precedence for him having a chance in this fight.

Saying otherwise is either ignorant, or just plain lying imo.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
I've just did it.

When?


Originally posted by RealityWarper

You have just been debunked by it.

You debunk nothing.
And,Posting high-end feat is enough to debunk typical lowballing.

Originally posted by RealityWarper

Sure, less than 15 % of the time and I'm vastly highballing it.
Can you understand that it is one of many?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman has more than enough instances of resisting telepaths for it to be a pattern rather than a coincidence. It doesn't make him immune. It doesn't mean an auto-win. It does, however, establish a precedence for him having a chance in this fight.

Saying otherwise is either ignorant, or just plain lying imo.
I agree.
It doesn't mean auto-win indeed

But,his high-end telepathic resistance feats and speed feats can make chance for Superman to defeat Nate, I think.

Originally posted by CatL18
When?



You debunk nothing.
And,Posting high-end feat is enough to debunk typical lowballing.


Can you understand that it is one of many?

Can you understand that he is statistically more often wrecked than resisting it ?

On topic, Nate will do shit against Superman physically.

On the mental plane that's another story.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Can you understand that he is statistically more often wrecked than resisting it ?
So,prove it with feats.
And,low-end feats doesn't matter because it doesn't debunk high-end feats.
Is Superman only Hypersonic despite he has many many FTL feats?
If you think so, You are idiot.

Originally posted by CatL18
So,prove it with feats.
And,low-end feats doesn't matter because it doesn't debunk high-end feats.
Is Superman only Hypersonic despite he has many many FTL feats?
If you think so, You are idiot.

Do you understand what a statistic is ?

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Do you understand what a statistic is ?
Can you undestand thst low-end feat is not enough to debunk high-end feat?
According to forum rule, we go by what the character can do at his best. Low-balling isn't allowed.
And,Superman has many many resistance feat that you don't know.

And, tell me when did you take stastistic?

Originally posted by CatL18
Can you undestand thst low-end feat is not enough to debunk high-end feat?
According to forum rule, we go by what the character can do at his best. Low-balling isn't allowed.
And,Superman has many many resistance feat that you don't know.

And, tell me when did you take stastistic?

What you are personally calling "high-end feats" doesn't make Superman's whole history as being telepathically taken down disappear.

That's called cherry picking or picking stuff out-of-context in most cases.


Statistically I proven that he fails to fight against characters using telepathy a large majority of the time.

pretty simple really. post a scan of superman being eff'd over by a telepath and we'll show a scan of him resisting or flat out tanking tp. first one that runs out of scans loses. scans subject to context checks, obviously. rw should be able to run a train on all of us since superman fails so often, right rw? oh wait, when challenged on anything you make excuses then run and hide. be awesome to see you ACTUALLY put your money where your trolling mouth is.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
What you are personally calling "high-end feats" doesn't make Superman's whole history as being telepathically taken down disappear.

That's called cherry picking or picking stuff out-of-context in most cases.


Statistically I proven that he fails to fight against characters using telepathy a large majority of the time.
I say again.
When did you take staststic?

We can post Superman's telepathic resistance feats.
So, you must post low-end feats that Superman is mind-raped.
If you are not troll or liar, You can do it.

Originally posted by leonidas
pretty simple really. post a scan of superman being eff'd over by a telepath and we'll show a scan of him resisting or flat out tanking tp. first one that runs out of scans loses. scans subject to context checks, obviously. rw should be able to run a train on all of us since superman fails so often, right rw? oh wait, when challenged on anything you make excuses then run and hide. be awesome to see you ACTUALLY put your money where your trolling mouth is.


Someone already posted it in the thread.

By the way, you are part of the bandwagon whom failed to post proof on anything I've asked.

Originally posted by CatL18
I say again.
When did you take staststic?

We can post Superman's telepathic resistance feats.
So, you must post low-end feats that Superman is mind-raped.
If you are not troll or liar, You can do it.

I made statistics based on what have been previously posted in the thread.

For now, you've lost it.

Your links doesn't work.

Nice try thought.

Reality Warper, why are you trolling? Superman isn't real.

Originally posted by RealityWarper

I made statistics based on what have been previously posted in the thread.

For now, you've lost it.
If you think that feats we posted are everything about Superman's resistance feat, you are nothing but idiot.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Reality Warper, why are you trolling? Superman isn't real.

And... And... Santa ? o_O

Originally posted by CatL18
If you think that feats we posted are everything about Superman's resistance feat, you are nothing but idiot.

If you think that insulting me makes your argument stronger, you are Donald Trump. <3

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Reality Warper, why are you trolling? Superman isn't real.
Because Superman is superior to his "favorite" Sentry

Originally posted by CatL18
Because Superman is superior to his "favorite" Sentry

Awww. The butthurt agenda is back at it again.

That's always the same whom are bringing Sentry to the table.

Galan in the Molecule Man thread and now you in the Superman thread.

Ok pal. We got the message.

You can stay salty, for what I care.

Reality Warper, some trolling advice, you need to connect to something people are emotional over for it to really work. Comics, no so much.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Reality Warper, some trolling advice, you need to connect to something people are emotional over for it to really work. Comics, no so much.

I'm not trolling but people in here are emotional enough to believe that I am doing it...

Quoting doesn't seem to work.
So, I can post respect thread's link.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t601613.html

We can always see Superman's telepathic resistance feats.

Originally posted by CatL18
Quoting doesn't seem to work.
So, I can post respect thread's link.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t601613.html

We can always see Superman's telepathic resistance feats.

I will look at it (when i have time)

Originally posted by RealityWarper
I will look at it (when i have time)
So, You seem to run away like you always do,don't you?

Originally posted by CatL18
So, You seem to run away like you always do,don't you?

Nope. I'm just saying that I have a personal life.

To each his own I guess.

Ps: Nice alt account.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Nope. I'm just saying that I have a personal life.

To each his own I guess.

Ps: Nice alt account.
If I am other's alt, everyone in kmc without you must be alt.
Everyone must be alt who are disguting for you

Originally posted by CatL18
If I am other's alt, everyone in kmc without you must be alt.
Everyone must be alt who are disguting for you

Nooo.

You are just an unoriginal copy and paste of most people in here.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Nooo.

You are just an unoriginal copy and paste of most people in here.
I don't copy and paste any comment in this thread.
If you feel so,It means that you trolls in every thread you post.

Anyway, run away as you always do.

put the cowardly troll on ignore and be done with him.

Originally posted by leonidas
put the cowardly troll on ignore and be done with him.
Yeah.
For me, I don't want to waste time.
Talking with troll like Reality Warper is nothing but waste of time

Originally posted by CatL18
I don't copy and paste any comment in this thread.
If you feel so,It means that you trolls in every thread you post.

Anyway, run away as you always do.

How am I running exactly ?

I said that you are a copycat of other users, not that you are copying stuff...

Nice reading skills.

Originally posted by leonidas
put the cowardly troll on ignore and be done with him.

Still waiting for you to post proofs in the other threads...

Coward-man.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
How am I running exactly ?

I said that you are a copycat of other users, not that you are copying stuff...

Nice reading skills. Tbf you barely understand the superficial meaning of the words you use. Lol!

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Tbf you barely understand the superficial meaning of the words you use. Lol!

And you don't understand shit.