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In a foot race around earth. Who wins?

Pietro.

Superman is just too slow.

Pietro can unstuck himself from time, basically moving at time stop speed, so yeah, he would beat Clark in race obviously.

^^^really?

Originally posted by riv6672
^^^really?
Contribute to the thread or get the hell out.

^^^really?

Originally posted by riv6672
^^^really?

Yeah, really.

https://imgur.com/a/AXekq4E

Plus he has some other uber feats.

The second links don't work, so here are better ones, just in case.

https://ibb.co/eitv59
https://ibb.co/ksUrdU
https://ibb.co/g2XYsp
https://ibb.co/mg5WdU

It would be this essentially:

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-01221a1200ca353a93cfc45fe27424f5

Just swap in Superman

Originally posted by Damborgson
It would be this essentially:

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-01221a1200ca353a93cfc45fe27424f5

Just swap in Superman

Well, except that Quicksilver is old news, who is only hypersonic, he has gotten a few power boosts, the one in form of terrigen, and the other one as already said his natural potential being unlocked over time, plus recent Scarlet Witch and Synapse unlocking Pietro's mental blocks.

Quicksilver can hit lightspeed, FTL/MFTL, unstuck from time, has picosecond reaction feats, and the list of his recent feats go on.

And let's not forget the biggest upgrade Quicksilver had in recent years: he's no longer a filthy mutie.

Okay, that makes a lot of sense.
Man, talk about untapped potential. QS could be a speed/energy manipulator on a whole other level.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

Superman is just too slow.

Superman, and it's not even close.

Quicksilver becoming mildly faster than light doesn't mean he can challenge Supes now.

Even Kid Flash is easily ftl.

^^^seems a bit beyond mild, imo.
But this is the part of the thread where ppl just nay say presented evidence, because, Superman.

So, imma get the hell out, as i have nothing to contribute to that part of the process.

Great arguments made for QS. Love his recent speed showings. Insane.

Originally posted by carver9
Great arguments made for QS. Love his recent speed showings. Insane. Titan-ic, even.

If QS' best showing is moving in time stop, he loses.

Post-crisis Supes casually moved through apokoliptan time stop tech.

Hell, post-crisis Supes has casually moved through time loops.

Several Green Lanterns while flying at top speed weren't able to enter Darkseid's multiversal dimension or what have you. They were stuck in a time loop and stayed in the same spot.

Supes got through no problem on his own sheer speed. When wally and Barry had to run side by side faster than they have ever gone before to enter.

If Pietro can separate himself from time a la Zoom, then he should be able to win. If it's a flat foot race, then Superman has to contend with the fact that he's still subject to all the laws of physics.

Also, kindly stay on topic, please.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
If QS' best showing is moving in time stop, he loses.

Post-crisis Supes casually moved through apokoliptan time stop tech.

Hell, post-crisis Supes has casually moved through time loops.

Several Green Lanterns while flying at top speed weren't able to enter Darkseid's multiversal dimension or what have you. They were stuck in a time loop and stated in the same spot.

Supes got through no problem on his own sheer speed. When wally and Barry had to run side by side faster than they have ever gone before to enter.

Is moving in time stop the same as jogging around the world casually seeing everything frozen for long periods of time.

Originally posted by MaZeRaIII
Yeah, really.

https://imgur.com/a/AXekq4E

Plus he has some other uber feats.

Can't seem to see it.

Originally posted by -Pr-
If Pietro can separate himself from time a la Zoom, then he should be able to win. If it's a flat foot race, then Superman has to contend with the fact that he's still subject to all the laws of physics.

Also, kindly stay on topic, please. He was amped when he threw himself out of normal time space and now he can't get back

Suffice to say, it's no applicable here.

And most people here already know this, but they like to be stuck in an ignorance loop.

CIS/CIP is still in effect, no?

So if it IS mental blocks holding him back, or lack of calm or whatever....he surely can't replicate it?

Especially if it needed Synapse to do it

Originally posted by MaZeRaIII
The said "amp" is misleading word here, it was nothing but merely Wanda and Synapse unlocking his mental blocks which held back his speed.

Plus, he can do it again, all it has to take is him running at full speed to do so in order to get the same results, as for not getting out, the reason he doesn't get out of it, is because he can't calm himself down in simple terms. He needed external help to reach that speed. That's an amp.

Originally posted by MaZeRaIII
Rather very applieable, all he has to do is replicate what made him unstuck himself from time in a first place, and the replication part is simple, just run at full speed and boom. There's no evidence he can replicate it without the external help.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
If QS' best showing is moving in time stop, he loses.

Post-crisis Supes casually moved through apokoliptan time stop tech.

Hell, post-crisis Supes has casually moved through time loops.

Several Green Lanterns while flying at top speed weren't able to enter Darkseid's multiversal dimension or what have you. They were stuck in a time loop and stayed in the same spot.

Supes got through no problem on his own sheer speed. When wally and Barry had to run side by side faster than they have ever gone before to enter.

I have already posted showings of Superman utterly failing to move in time stop, and needing Waverider's help to actually move.

Time loops are not the same thing as slowing down time (which Superman enocuntered once, but he was nearly dead exhausted after the experience) and time stop, not really much of a speed feat

First of all Apokolips is not multiversal dimension, it's solar system sized, second, that's dimesnional barrier breaking feat, not really a speed feat, but rather vibrating as specific frequency to enter other worlds, it's basically the same thing when Flash vibrates to enter other worlds like Earth 2 and etc... not exactly a speed feat, but rather properly vibrating.

As for Wally and Barry part, that's just nonsense.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
CIS/CIP is still in effect, no?

So if it IS mental blocks holding him back, or lack of calm or whatever....he surely can't replicate it?

Especially if it needed Synapse to do it

1. Mental blocks merely limiting his speed, those were removed by Wanda and Synapse, PERNAMENTLY, in QS's series, she tried to "slow" down QS she even had help from Doctor Voodoo and other Avengers, didn't work out so well at all.

2. His lack of calm prevents him from SLOWING down to normal level, it was basically the explanation as to why he is still unstuck from time.

Originally posted by MaZeRaIII
Except it's not your traditional type of amp, mental blocks work differently, and the reason those things were there in a first place was because of Quicksilver's own fear which subconsciously fueled those specific blocks (as stated in Avengers: No Surrender story arc). This is not true. As with, well, most of the stuff you post.

You don't know how to read comics. Let me help you.

Quicksilver: "I can't catch it on my own"
and Wanda flat-out states: "Brother, even if I could use my magic to help I don't know what will happen if you move beyond the limits of your powers."

i.e. Wanda's magic moved him beyond the speed his powers allow him to.

https://78.media.tumblr.com/407545722c0f7be2497d7c29536f9eaa/tumblr_p7138ocO7w1ru09bvo1_500.jpg

I will repeat this slow:

BEEEEYOOOOND

THEEEE

LIIIIMIIITS

OFFFF

HIIISSSS

POWEEEERRRR

The problem was that his mind would block him from accessing a speed Wanda would give him, beyond his own powers , so Synapse had to alter his mind:
https://78.media.tumblr.com/3805afee0acdab1ef05d41c47c6dfa40/tumblr_p7138ocO7w1ru09bvo2_500.jpg

So, and I will talk slowly in order so that you get this:

It.

Was.

A.

Combination.

Of.

Magical speed amplification

and

Telepathic mind-alteration

in.

order.

for.

Quicksilver.

To.

Go.

That.

Fast.

There. You should now get it.

If only removing mental blocks was needed, Synapse would have sufficed.

Furthermore.

Synapse had to alter his mind throughout the entire trip, and it was stated that she kept in contact right until the end:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2a/7e/b6/2a7eb6bd1f7407c50b1f536982daac2f.jpg

"You were linked to Quicksilver in those final moments".

So it wasn't just a 'switch' that she turned off, then she went on her way. It has to be active.

You can see them both, as Quicksilver is running, constantly using their power:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/21/87/c5/2187c5714ec219343d25e3d6ffcb7f11.jpg

Needless to say, Quicksilver has neither Scarlet Witch's magic, nor Synapse's telepathy to replicate that.

Do I need to go slower?

Great argument against QS. Insane.

I mean, it's not that hard to understand either. It only takes proper reading, or recognizing that QS needs an astronomical amp for this thread to even work lol.

QS is going through the amp still, so I think MaZeRaIII is trying to say is that he at least right now currently has the time stop thing. the whole no surrender is set in only time locked speed thus far.

it makes it seem like he will be able to Zen his way down from the ledge potentially coming out of I guess 'time lock'. the arc isn't over so its hard to tell what the final amp will play out to be but as right now he's gotten an astronomical amp.

^ What series is this Quicksilver stuff taking place in?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ What series is this Quicksilver stuff taking place in?
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Quicksilver-No-Surrender

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Great argument against QS. Insane.

Lol... I see what you did here.

this is his stable power as of right now until he learns how to slow down. so no

the argument of whether the amp lasts indefinitely is in question.

in forum always thought that you took the current version unless stated otherwise

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QS did need the Amp from SW and SYNAPSE to get to the level but he currently still is still amped and has not found a way to slow down/undo the amp is all I think the argument was

Originally posted by staxamillion
QS is going through the amp still, so I think MaZeRaIII is trying to say is that he at least right now currently has the time stop thing. the whole no surrender is set in only time locked speed thus far.

it makes it seem like he will be able to Zen his way down from the ledge potentially coming out of I guess 'time lock'. the arc isn't over so its hard to tell what the final amp will play out to be but as right now he's gotten an astronomical amp. 1). That's not what he's saying. He's saying that Pietro can do so at will, when he can't:
Originally posted by MaZeRaIII
Pietro can unstuck himself from time
Pietro doesn't start the forum fights in the trans-time dimension, unless he can reach it on his own. Which he can't. He also claimed it was a matter of mental block, when that was just something that Synapse removed, in order for him to access the speed amp Scarlet Witch provided him with magic, and was not the source of the speed itself. It's not. Wanda is the Source of the speed amp, and Synapse helped him properly access it.

2). Quicksilver's amp was only there when Scarlet Witch and Synapse altered him. He is no longer in that state. The problem is that, when he had the amp, he ran out of normal space/time, so he's basically in an alternate dimension now. If it makes it easier, think of you having to jump on the edge of a building, so you use a trampoline . You jump on it, and you reach that edge of the building, but now you can't jump back down . That's Quicksilver. He no longer has the trampoline, he can't get off the building, and he wouldn't be able to jump on the edge of the building without it.

Even furthermore, Quicksilver is not in absolute time-stop, as Scarlet Witch has been able to contact him while he is in that 'dimension', so she is able to move, slow as it is, in normal time. In fact, he even has a turtle living with him in that separate dimension - further showing that you don't need 'superspeed' to be in that state. It's a matter of being literally 'thrown' out of normal space/time :

https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t/39251349_QS1.jpghttps://s7d1.turboimg.net/t/39251350_QS2.jpghttps://s7d1.turboimg.net/t/39251351_QS3.jpghttps://s7d1.turboimg.net/t/39251352_QS4.jpghttps://s7d1.turboimg.net/t/39251353_QS5.jpghttps://s7d1.turboimg.net/t/39251354_QS6.jpg

(continued)

https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t/39251355_QS7.jpghttps://s7d1.turboimg.net/t/39251356_QS8.jpghttps://s7d1.turboimg.net/t/39251357_QS9.jpghttps://s7d1.turboimg.net/t/39251358_QS10.jpghttps://s7d1.turboimg.net/t/39251359_QS11.jpghttps://s7d1.turboimg.net/t/39251360_QS12.jpg

Stop listening to idiots, and read the comics for yourself. It's clear as day.

Originally posted by Facee
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Quicksilver-No-Surrender





Im intrigued so might check it out.

I see what you are saying with the 'time lock' dimension. I just understood as the amp has not played out yet to its final form. it does seem like he's using the whole emotional zen with a mixture of sw's magik to come out of dimension. the last amp bumped so much he ran into a 'between time space' dimension and now he's lost the all the amps I see it as he amped past the max and he's stuck in the dimension.

maybe its more of an altered state rather. the turtle is only animate after qs can use some magic to pull it into his state. it just reminds me of speed force like when the flash can lend a bit so they can see or act with him.