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Ikaris, aka Ike Harris, of the Eternals goes up against various Marvel bricks. Which, if any, does he get a majority of wins against?

1) Luke Cage
2) Classic She-Hulk
3) Ms. Marvel (Carol, no Binary)
4) Classic Wonderman (since current is a snowflake)
5) Colossus
6) Thing
7) Rulk
8) Namor
9) Hercules

IMHO, he can get a majority against ANY of them. This isn't a gauntlet, he's fully rested between each fight.

He sweeps

Stops at Savage Hulk.

Originally posted by Facee
Stops at Savage Hulk.
This is CLASSIC She Hulk.

Originally posted by zopzop
This is CLASSIC She Hulk.
I added SH to the list.

Definitely gets a majority from 1-6,rulk is inconsistent,but basically Loeb Force rulk is the only one I see getting a majority,unless you mean the current red hulk with the heart condition. The last two are a tossup imo

Originally posted by Genii96
Definitely gets a majority from 1-6,rulk is inconsistent,but basically Loeb Force rulk is the only one I see getting a majority,unless you mean the current red hulk with the heart condition. The last two are a tossup imo
This is standard NON Loebforce Rulk. I should have mentioned that in the OP. You really think the last two are a tossup?

Have you seen Ikaris face off vs Namor/Hammond Human Torch/Captain America? Captain America was doing nothing against him. He was completely ignoring Hammond's flames (and this guy is pretty powerful). He was doing all this while going toe to toe with Namor :
https://s8.postimg.cc/4gjofodzl/cd75f7f58c220a54fbb935b805bf91b9.jpg

He's also gone up against Herc and did damn good (Ikaris didn't really want to fight Herc either, he thought he was Gilgamesh and wantd to jog his memory) :
https://s8.postimg.cc/kese5jd9t/image.jpg https://s8.postimg.cc/x66kc1url/image.jpg https://s8.postimg.cc/4gjofeyhd/image.jpg

I think he'd break Hercules if he was serious. This is Ikaris unleashed :
https://s8.postimg.cc/nlmxpkiep/QIu_X6_Hs.png
Yes, that's Ghaur in Celestial armor being staggered and crying out in pain from an assault by Ikaris. And keep in mind these are the classic Celestials, not the current jobber losers.

^That was Prime Eternal Ikaris no? He had the power of Zuras and was massively amped (Thor was still competitive with him IIRC *unzips pants*)

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
^That was Prime Eternal Ikaris no? He had the power of Zuras and was massively amped (Thor was still competitive with him IIRC *unzips pants*)
EDIT
No, you are right. He challenged Thena and got the power. Scratch that last scan.

He clears. He was fighting Namor with a team and was holding back and they still couldnt damage him. Giving him the majority against all of them... it depends on the Rulk tbh.

Stops at Rulk. Namor had a low showing against him. I'd give Namor the nod against him when being portrayed at his best. The same goes for Hercules.

Originally posted by Stoic
Stops at Rulk. Namor had a low showing against him. I'd give Namor the nod against him when being portrayed at his best. The same goes for Hercules.
Did you see the Hercules fight? Ikaris's eye beams, while toying around with Hercules thinking he was Gilgamesh, caused Hercules to scream out in pain. Now imagine if Ikaris was going for the kill?

Regarding the Invaders fight, so they all had a low showing vs a mind controlled but holding back Ikaris? Even ignoring Namor, do you have any idea how powerful Hammond Human Torch is? Yet his flames weren't even fazing Ikaris in the least.

Originally posted by zopzop
Did you see the Hercules fight? Ikaris's eye beams, while toying around with Hercules thinking he was Gilgamesh, caused Hercules to scream out in pain. Now imagine if Ikaris was going for the kill?

Regarding the Invaders fight, so they all had a low showing vs a mind controlled but holding back Ikaris? Even ignoring Namor, do you have any idea how powerful Hammond Human Torch is? Yet his flames weren't even fazing Ikaris in the least.

All characters operate at lower levels when they fight on teams. Rulk edged out Ikaris by himself if you recall, and he did it without borrowing power.

Originally posted by zopzop
This is CLASSIC She Hulk.

Haven't you heard, zop?

Hulk is Hulk.

Our Lord, Carver the Great, has re-invented the rules.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChJDPHJWgAE1NPy.jpg

Pray he doesn't alter them any further.

Originally posted by Stoic
All characters operate at lower levels when they fight on teams. Rulk edged out Ikaris by himself if you recall, and he did it without borrowing power.
Rulk didn't edge anything out. Ikaris stopped attacking to save the town from the volcano.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Haven't you heard, zop?

Hulk is Hulk.

Our Lord, Carver the Great, has re-invented the rules.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChJDPHJWgAE1NPy.jpg

Pray he doesn't alter them any further.

She Hulk is She Hulk. She doesn't pertain to the Hulk is Hulk.

Originally posted by carver9
She Hulk is She Hulk. She doesn't pertain to the Hulk is Hulk.

Carver, wtf.

Keep up with comics, dude:

1) She's been calling herself "Hulk" for quite a while.

2) She was given her own title - HULK TITLE, not She-Hulk.

Hulk is Hulk, don't try to backpedal now...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Carver, wtf.

Keep up with comics, dude:

1) She's been calling herself "Hulk" for quite a while.

2) She was given her own title - HULK TITLE, not She-Hulk.

Hulk is Hulk, don't try to backpedal now...

No!!! She Hulk is She Hulk. Banner Hulk is Hulk is Hulk. I didnt give him the name Hulk is Hulk because of a name, I did it because of Banner. Hulk is Hulk.

I now regret including any Hulk in a VS thread. Live and learn.

Originally posted by carver9
No!!! She Hulk is She Hulk. Banner Hulk is Hulk is Hulk. I didnt give him the name Hulk is Hulk because of a name, I did it because of Banner. Hulk is Hulk.

Yet you used your "Hulk is Hulk" logic with f*cking Amadeus Cho all the damn time, lol.

Just because he had a penis and was an Asian (I know you love those, hence your sexual relationship with DarkSaint) doesn't mean he was more privileged to being Hulk than Jen.

Lol he not only used it with Cho....

Even Weapon H got Cho's feats, lol.

When did I say that?

Originally posted by zopzop
This is standard NON Loebforce Rulk. I should have mentioned that in the OP. You really think the last two are a tossup?

Have you seen Ikaris face off vs Namor/Hammond Human Torch/Captain America? Captain America was doing nothing against him. He was completely ignoring Hammond's flames (and this guy is pretty powerful). He was doing all this while going toe to toe with Namor :
https://s8.postimg.cc/4gjofodzl/cd75f7f58c220a54fbb935b805bf91b9.jpg

He's also gone up against Herc and did damn good (Ikaris didn't really want to fight Herc either, he thought he was Gilgamesh and wantd to jog his memory) :
https://s8.postimg.cc/kese5jd9t/image.jpg https://s8.postimg.cc/x66kc1url/image.jpg https://s8.postimg.cc/4gjofeyhd/image.jpg

I think he'd break Hercules if he was serious. This is Ikaris unleashed :
https://s8.postimg.cc/nlmxpkiep/QIu_X6_Hs.png
Yes, that's Ghaur in Celestial armor being staggered and crying out in pain from an assault by Ikaris. And keep in mind these are the classic Celestials, not the current jobber losers.


Yeah,I've seen the fight with namor,cap obviously would be useless in this situation, Hammond up until that point was pretty rusty and/or toned down,hewas just as useless against the kree pursuer sent to fight him (Bucky did better than he did),his radioactive blast which je had brrn prepping throughout didnt even take out all the kree fodders,that arc was a low fot hammond,i mean,he dropped hyperion with a single hit for petes sake,but the fight against ikaris,his attacks on ikaris was just a front,he was actually spreading radiation around the area to detonate, basically you could take them both out and leave only namor and the balance of the fight wouldn't change in that scenario

And as for the namor and ikaris fight, neither of them were at full power,ikaris was fighting the desire to kill,namor had been imprisoned throughout after having been reduced to almost a skeleton beforehand by a weapon made for him by the kree

And his eye beams were the only things that bothered namor there, physically,namor was all over him, Everytime ikaris managed to get the upper hand,it was because of his HV, when it came to h2h,


https://readcomics.io/images/manga/all-new-invaders/4/13.jpg

https://readcomics.io/images/manga/all-new-invaders/4/16.jpg

https://readcomics.io/images/manga/all-new-invaders/5/7.jpg


And then namor got him in the Nelson
https://readcomics.io/images/manga/all-new-invaders/5/11.jpg



At the end,ikaris couldn't stand by himself,namor had zero ailments and was just fine.
https://readcomics.io/images/manga/all-new-invaders/5/15.jpg


Ofcourse,I skipped some scans in-between,not trying to mislead anyone


Now this isn't exactly a worthy mention for either men, neither truly went all out, Neither went for the kill, Neither dominated the other,and the extra participants were incapable ( in that instance) of really changing the outcome
Ikaris came off worse than nanor did, whether it was from the strain of fighting or resisting the Monday control or both,still remains,it wasn't a low showing for neither men,but not a very good one either





The fight against hercc isn't all that,he cheapshotted him from behind,her threw him off when he came close,he rammed into her,who responded with three punches,then ikaris did his light move and herc was confused by the name of the forgotten one, Neither went all out, neither truly damaged the other,hardly proof that he would break herc

Damn dude, way to phuck up the thread with those non resized pics.

But anyway, here is the entire fight in context (thanks to OAS):
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot

http://i.imgur.com/XeuYfHi.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bZjyIII.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wz0ipAa.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pz9SB6K.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pio1uHQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UKm95fC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mSJPwra.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RQDIMZy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CTQ2qLY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0PE1d19.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/igu7OGs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UJihycv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/12YE3yf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vP8PpD4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KYkqwmf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wniMNtu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CZQZgvX.jpg

They dogpiled him and he straight up admitted he wasn't hitting them with his full power. You keep bringing up the fact that it was 'only ' his HV that was affecting Namor, last time I checked I didn't limit this purely H2H. Ikaris is allowed to use any/all of his abilities.

Regarding Hercules, Ikaris' 'cheapshot' wasn't meant to kill or maim. It was meant to jog "Gilgamesh's" memory. Even still Hercules cried out in pain and went down. Hercules is no stranger to cheapshots because he did the same thing to Ikaris a few panels later. Ikaris' casual energy attacks are powerful enough to cause a CL100 character like Hercules extreme pain.

Originally posted by zopzop
I now regret including any Hulk in a VS thread. Live and learn.

You should've seen that coming.

Originally posted by carver9
When did I say that?

My chocolate boy, I think you're gonna get slapped with quotes. Again.

Originally posted by carver9
When did I say that?

I think u said something along the lines of Weapon H having Chos dna or something therefore saying he was equal to Cho by default. I'm paraphrasing but thats the gist of it

I'm gonna need a bigger version of those scans if you have them there, Genii.

Much bigger.

Off topic but isnt hammond like Namor level himself ?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Off topic but isnt hammond like Namor level himself ?

In what sense?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
In what sense?

Iirc he lost his flame...went completely radioactive and got a powerup

Originally posted by carver9
When did I say that?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Maybe, I haven't seen him thunderclap yet so I don't know. I might've missed it.


Originally posted by carver9
He has Cho DNA in him. Just as strong, etc... he can thunder clap.

Now, I don't actually care about Weapon Hs strength level. Am pretty sure he's way up there.

But the reasoning for him being able to thunderclap, or at least, part of the reasoning, being because he shares Cho's DNA.....lol.

Imagine if we extended it here? Whose cousin (i.e. with SOME shared DNA) is Jennifer Walters again? How did she get her powers again?

She's literally more Hulk than anyone else is.