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BruceSkywalker
Confirmed Henry Cavill is Geralt...


https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/henry-cavill-to-topline-netflix-drama-series-the-witcher/ar-BBMRtIe?OCID=ansmsnnews11

TheVaultDweller
That's kind of a weird casting. Henry Cavill is not the person I picture when i think Geralt. They are going to need a lot of costume makeup, and Cavill will probably have to get leaner. Geralt is pretty muscular, but generally (at least in art, games and such) portrayed as being relatively lean.

Edit:

Hmmm... Actually, if they can do the white hair right, it could work:

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_lfill,w_410/qfik9me0t0wwzn5siexz.png

Anyway, I quite like the Witcher-univerise, so will definitely be keeping an eye on this.

ares834
Seems like a good choice. Apparently Cavill is a big fan of the series and has read the books so that implies a good amount of passion for the project which is a nice sign.

TheVaultDweller
That's always a good sign. When an actor is really passionate about something, like Ryan Reynolds with Deadpool, for example, it quite often pays off. Because their commitment shines through, which can often boost everyone in a project.

And the Witcher universe is really interesting. It's expanded from the books, to the games, to several comics and such as well. And the comics are actually a pretty good entry for people who don't want to play entire games or read full novels, considering the runs are normally only like 4 or 5 issues. So, it's a good starting point for people who just want to dip their toes into the universe.

KingD19
He was much smaller in Mission Impossible: Fallout than Justice League. Solid but not super buff like Clark.

Surtur
I saw some fan art with Cavill as Geralt. So with the right look he could pull it off.

With that said I always figured Geralt was a little older than he is going to apparently be portrayed.

TheVaultDweller
Well, IIRC, Geralt is like 90-something, actually. But Witchers age more slowly than normal people do. His white hair isn't from age. It's a side-effect of his particular Trial of Grasses (the process that turns a human into a Witcher).

Adam Grimes
Yeah, Geralt went under some extra mutations which turned him into an albino as a side effect.

Flyattractor
The Solomon Kane People really need to up those lawsuits.

Surtur
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Well, IIRC, Geralt is like 90-something, actually. But Witchers age more slowly than normal people do. His white hair isn't from age. It's a side-effect of his particular Trial of Grasses (the process that turns a human into a Witcher).

I see, the only game I've played in depth is the Witcher 3. Is there ever an explanation as to how he apparently was killed by being stabbed with a pitchfork?

I read part of a book years ago, but can't remember most of it.

TheVaultDweller
Originally posted by Surtur
I see, the only game I've played in depth is the Witcher 3. Is there ever an explanation as to how he apparently was killed by being stabbed with a pitchfork?

I read part of a book years ago, but can't remember most of it.

There was an argument between a human and some non-humans, which led to a massive riot in Rivia against the non-humans. Geralt kills a few of the rampaging humans, but hesitates when he gets to one who is basically just a kid. And in that moment of hesitation, the kid stabs him in the chest. But a bunch of stuff happens involving Yennefer and Ciri, and everything kind of works out in the end, sort of.

Also, I am assuming this is the fan-art someone did for Cavill as Geralt you were referring to earlier?

https://media.comicbook.com/2018/09/henry-cavill-geralt-witcher-netflix-1131760-1280x0.jpeg

BackFire
Originally posted by Surtur
I see, the only game I've played in depth is the Witcher 3. Is there ever an explanation as to how he apparently was killed by being stabbed with a pitchfork?

I read part of a book years ago, but can't remember most of it.

The books are solid, at least the two that I've read.

Witcher 2 is also quite good, if a bit clunky in some respects.

First game is a lot of people's favorite but the combat is awful imo, and everything is extremely clunky in that old school CRPG kinda way.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Cavill will probably have to get leaner. Geralt is pretty muscular, but generally (at least in art, games and such) portrayed as being relatively lean.




Well if you see Immortals youll see he can be a lot slimmer and leaner.

That said if hes still playing Superman then he wont want to lose too much weight. Although some people think this announcement might be a sign that WB/DC have let him go.

TheVaultDweller
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well if you see Immortals youll see he can be a lot slimmer and leaner.

That said if hes still playing Superman then he wont want to lose too much weight. Although some people think this announcement might be a sign that WB/DC have let him go.

I've seen Immortals. I would say a bit bigger than that would be ideal, if you compare shots of him in that film to how Geralt is portrayed in Witcher 3, for example:

http://www.trainbodyandmind.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/01.henry-cavill-immortals-600x499.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/X3P9uCQ.jpg

Darth Thor
He can do it given He went from Immortals size to MOS size. So he must have been somewhere in between at some point.

Depends how much him and the producers are bothered about getting the characters size right. Will also depend on whats happenings with Caville Superman.

Robtard
Looking forward to this.

Flyattractor
I would rather have an Elric show....which the Witcher ripped off ROYALLY!

ares834
Geralt is more a homage then a direct rip-off. There are some very striking similarities between the two characters, but plenty of stark contrasts as well not to mention the stories are completely different.

Still, an Elric TV series would be awesome. thumb up

Flyattractor
Michael Moorecock doesn't seem to think so.

BackFire
Leaked casting call (which is not confirmed at this point, could be bogus) suggests they are looking for a BAME actress to play Ciri. BAME, meaning black or asian or some other minority.

Lot of fans are very upset about this. If it's true it's a very strange and seemingly random decision.

Mindset
Originally posted by BackFire
Leaked casting call (which is not confirmed at this point, could be bogus) suggests they are looking for a BAME actress to play Ciri. BAME, meaning black or asian or some other minority.

Lot of fans are very upset about this. If it's true it's a very strange and seemingly random decision. Making the show more inclusive means more viewers.

KingD19
I'd prefer keeping the show good than making an exotic actress call just cuz. The defenders of the primarily white people in Witcher made sense. What black guys or Mexicans or Asians did you know traipsing around in Poland in the 1400's?

ares834
Originally posted by BackFire
Leaked casting call (which is not confirmed at this point, could be bogus) suggests they are looking for a BAME actress to play Ciri. BAME, meaning black or asian or some other minority.

Lot of fans are very upset about this. If it's true it's a very strange and seemingly random decision.

Meh.

Kinda funny though. The Nilfgaardians are the "Evil Empire" of the series and are referred to as "the black ones".

Dreampanther
Originally posted by KingD19
I'd prefer keeping the show good than making an exotic actress call just cuz. The defenders of the primarily white people in Witcher made sense. What black guys or Mexicans or Asians did you know traipsing around in Poland in the 1400's?

Short answer? Millions.

"From 1599 the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth suffered a series of Tatar invasions, the goal of which was to loot, pillage and capture slaves into jasyr. The borderland area to the south-east was in a state of semi-permanent warfare until the 18th century."

Wiki.

NemeBro
Originally posted by KingD19
I'd prefer keeping the show good than making an exotic actress call just cuz. The defenders of the primarily white people in Witcher made sense. What black guys or Mexicans or Asians did you know traipsing around in Poland in the 1400's? Is the setting of the Witcher Poland?

Adam Grimes
Yes, kinda.

Mindset
Originally posted by KingD19
I'd prefer keeping the show good than making an exotic actress call just cuz. The defenders of the primarily white people in Witcher made sense. What black guys or Mexicans or Asians did you know traipsing around in Poland in the 1400's? What does casting a non-white actress have to do with the quality of the show? And it's not "just cuz", they have a reason even if you don't see it.

How many witchers were roaming around 1400's Poland?

These are some odd objections.

samhain
All these complaints about Cavill's size are silly, if he doesn't look buff enough for the character the producers can just make the rest of the cast smaller than him. Ah, the magic of Hollywood.

Darth Thor
^ Cavill not buff enough?

Doubt thats the issue.

TheVaultDweller
Originally posted by samhain
All these complaints about Cavill's size are silly, if he doesn't look buff enough for the character the producers can just make the rest of the cast smaller than him. Ah, the magic of Hollywood.

You've got it a bit backwards. His current Superman physique is arguably a bit too big. But honestly, having thought about it some, in a long line of things that could be an issue, Geralt being buffer than he's previously been portrayed is not a big issue. The thing about him being lean is just due to the fact that he is often on the road, fighting, living off a diet that would likely be fatal to a normal human etc. hence while he is well-muscled, but he is still rather skinny, in terms of body fat.

As to the casting for Ciri? Eh, will reserve judgment until they actually tell us who it is. If they can write the story in a way so that it works, I am not really bothered if she doesn't quite physically resemble source material. With Ciri, it's more important that you can nail her character right IMO. I know some traditionalists will disagree, but whatever.

Adam Grimes
It's more a thing of being piss poor and starving frequently iirc. In Geralt's time monsters are dying out and witchers aren't as needed as decades prior.

I liked that Ciri is described, and in W3 looks, like she could be Geralt's blood daughter. It helps drive home the point that something bigger than even destiny wants them to be family. -although in the books she is blonde as opposed to having white hair-

samhain
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
You've got it a bit backwards. His current Superman physique is arguably a bit too big. But honestly, having thought about it some, in a long line of things that could be an issue, Geralt being buffer than he's previously been portrayed is not a big issue. The thing about him being lean is just due to the fact that he is often on the road, fighting, living off a diet that would likely be fatal to a normal human etc. hence while he is well-muscled, but he is still rather skinny, in terms of body fat.


Sorry, not too familiar with the world this is set in, I just assumed the complaint was about him not being big enough as that's usually the case with complaints about adaptations. But you could also flip what I suggested around and cast people bigger than Cavill.

TheVaultDweller
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
It's more a thing of being piss poor and starving frequently iirc.

Well, that's kind of what I meant with diet that would be fatal to a normal person lol. I was trying to be euphemistic. But yeah, he can survive living on extremely little (and then, what he ends up eating is also sometimes rather suspect), due to his Witcher constitution, but he still ends up looking very lean. Makes me wonder how Letho maintains his giant physique.

As to Ciri, obviously, having someone who does indeed look like the source material would probably add a bit extra to it. But what I mean is it's not some huge deal breaker for me as it seems to be for some people on the internet. I've seen a few people have complete meltdowns about this on some sites.

Surtur
I heard a rumor the show will focus on Ciri and not Geralt. If so, I'll pass.

Also not sure why a race change is needed. It's not inclusive to swap a race, it's lazy.

Mindset
Originally posted by Surtur
I heard a rumor the show will focus on Ciri and not Geralt. If so, I'll pass.

Also not sure why a race change is needed. It's not inclusive to swap a race, it's lazy. It may be lazy, but it's still inclusive.

BackFire
Originally posted by Surtur
I heard a rumor the show will focus on Ciri and not Geralt. If so, I'll pass.

Also not sure why a race change is needed. It's not inclusive to swap a race, it's lazy.

Where did you hear that first rumor? Casting someone as big as Henrey Cavill suggests that he would be the main character.

Ciri should be a big part of it, though. Bigger than Yen or Triss or whoever else may be in it. She's very important in the books (which is what the show will be based on), and even in Witcher 3, it can be argued that she's the main character of that game, in that the events that happen are centered around her rather than Geralt. I'd be fine if Ciri is a co-main character or something. She should be pretty close in significance to Geralt.

As far as the race change thing goes, I'm taking a wait and see approach with that, as it's still simply an unconfirmed rumor. Not gonna bother giving a shit until we know who is actually playing her.

Darth Thor
Well its confirmed Cavill isnt Superman anymore so he can get into whatever shape this series needs him to be in.

Surtur
Originally posted by BackFire
Where did you hear that first rumor? Casting someone as big as Henrey Cavill suggests that he would be the main character.

Ciri should be a big part of it, though. Bigger than Yen or Triss or whoever else may be in it. She's very important in the books (which is what the show will be based on), and even in Witcher 3, it can be argued that she's the main character of that game, in that the events that happen are centered around her rather than Geralt. I'd be fine if Ciri is a co-main character or something. She should be pretty close in significance to Geralt.

As far as the race change thing goes, I'm taking a wait and see approach with that, as it's still simply an unconfirmed rumor. Not gonna bother giving a shit until we know who is actually playing her.

I honestly forget where, it was in some article talking about the backlash and it talked about the race thing and it also talked about how they thought there might also be backlash cuz the wording of the casting call suggested Ciri was the central character.

One Big Mob
Couldn't they black up someone else who isn't described in detail in the books or games? Create a new character or something. The only people who know of her character know of her being white. It's not going to turn away new watchers if she's white as well.

"Superman is in it... but gee, his 'daughter' is white, so we'll have to pass."

Just seems like an annoying change for fans of the series and anyone who even has passing knowledge of it.

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by Mindset
Making the show more inclusive means more viewers. Does it?

Robtard
Originally posted by Mindset


How many witchers were roaming around 1400's Poland?



Lolz

BackFire
Originally posted by Surtur
I honestly forget where, it was in some article talking about the backlash and it talked about the race thing and it also talked about how they thought there might also be backlash cuz the wording of the casting call suggested Ciri was the central character.

I've been reading Blood of Elves for the first time, and honestly, her being the main character would be pretty much in line with how this first book has gone. I've been surprised by how central she is in this book, even being a point of view type character for large portions rather than Geralt. And since I assume the first season will be largely taken from Blood of Elves, since it's the first full length novel in the series, she may very well have a larger role than Geralt, at least in the first season. Don't know how the other books are.

Also, more news on the casting of Ciri. New information, which was posted on the Witcher subreddit, states that they are currently auditioning white actresses in poland, which obviously suggests that the rumor that they are looking exclusively for BAME actors for the role is false.

https://www.reddit.com/r/witcher/comments/9f2cs9/megathread_updated_information_regarding_the/?st=jlzl7j2f&sh=e95b0c89

Adam Grimes
I'd rather they adapt The Last Wish first tbh.

BackFire
I imagine they will have some stuff from the short stories in there in some form, maybe flashbacks, or maybe they'll combine them in some way. But I think the showrunner has hinted that Blood of Elves will be the focus. Could be wrong, though.

Surtur
I was there and I can tell you there were 3 witchers in 1400's poland.

Adam Grimes
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
I'd rather they adapt The Last Wish first tbh. As long as Villentretenmerth's story is in and he's played by James McAvoy I'm okay with that.

Mindset
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Does it? Potentially. It's the only reason these studios are doing it.

BackFire
Netflix announced the female leads.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/witcher-netflix-show-casts-ciri-yennefer-roles-1150868

Ciri looks great, near perfect casting imo.

The actress for Yen, though, looks extremely young. Kinda a weird choice but she's an unknown and doesn't have a lot of photos available online so we'll see with that one I guess.

quanchi112
Henry made the right call of Geralt over Kal.

TheVaultDweller
Originally posted by BackFire
Netflix announced the female leads.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/witcher-netflix-show-casts-ciri-yennefer-roles-1150868

Ciri looks great, near perfect casting imo.

The actress for Yen, though, looks extremely young. Kinda a weird choice but she's an unknown and doesn't have a lot of photos available online so we'll see with that one I guess.

Yeah, wow. That looks super young for Yen. But then they can just use makeup and such to age her up a bit if it really looks out of place. Just ask the people who do makeup on Vikings. Those guys are magicians in their craft.

BruceSkywalker
looks like a good cast.

Darth Thor
First look of Henry Cavill as Geralt:

https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2018/10/31/18047950/netflix-the-witcher-henry-cavill-geralt-costume

janus77
Haha, that looks ridiculous. What is it with Cavill that he has such bad luck on the CGI cosmetics front? The infamous upperlip and now this Halloween peroxide blonde wig?

ares834
Looks terrible. The wig looks like something someone cosplaying Legolas would wear.

TheVaultDweller
Really, Netflix? The friggin' fan concept art some random internet person probably did in Photoshop looks better than that.

Like I said last time, should have gone with the Vikings guys lol. They turned this guy:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vikings/images/4/48/Travis_Fimmel.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170207174759&path-prefix=fr

into this guy:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vikingstv/images/8/86/Ragnar_Mid-Season_Promo.jpeg/revision/latest?cb=20161219020239

cdtm
Originally posted by janus77
Haha, that looks ridiculous. What is it with Cavill that he has such bad luck on the CGI cosmetics front? The infamous upperlip and now this Halloween peroxide blonde wig?

No kidding, who's bad side did he get on, for these being the only work he can get?

NemeBro
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Really, Netflix? The friggin' fan concept art some random internet person probably did in Photoshop looks better than that.

Like I said last time, should have gone with the Vikings guys lol. They turned this guy:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vikings/images/4/48/Travis_Fimmel.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170207174759&path-prefix=fr

into this guy:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vikingstv/images/8/86/Ragnar_Mid-Season_Promo.jpeg/revision/latest?cb=20161219020239 My man, you are comparing a post-filming Ragnar Lothbrok to camera test no makeup or editing Geralt.

Wait until we get an actual trailer or at least a teaser. It could still end up looking like shit, but this does nothing for me.

BruceSkywalker
saw the pic earlier, doesn't look too bad

BackFire
Yeah Neme is right, this is little more than a proof of concept, he'll look way better in the final product with makeup/SFX.

TheVaultDweller
Originally posted by NemeBro
My man, you are comparing a post-filming Ragnar Lothbrok to camera test no makeup or editing Geralt.

Wait until we get an actual trailer or at least a teaser. It could still end up looking like shit, but this does nothing for me.

It's not really meant to be a direct comparison. I guess I should have worded that part better. The Vikings pics were simply to illustrate the quality of work those guys do, which I consider to be quite exceptional compared to a lot of shows/films.

But I admit I am also being rather nitpicky, because I like the Witcher-verse a lot, so I am really hoping for something that's good both visually and from a narrative standpoint. Because fantasy settings in particular can end up looking really cheesy if not done well.

Darth Thor
Good make up should be enough though.

Dont know much about the game, but is SFX needed?

TheVaultDweller
Well, the world has very strong magical elements to it.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I've seen Immortals. I would say a bit bigger than that would be ideal, if you compare shots of him in that film to how Geralt is portrayed in Witcher 3, for example:

http://www.trainbodyandmind.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/01.henry-cavill-immortals-600x499.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/X3P9uCQ.jpg Geralt is ****in hot.

Darth Thor
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Well, the world has very strong magical elements to it.


I mean for Geralts look.

TheVaultDweller
Originally posted by Darth Thor
I mean for Geralts look.

If they did, it probably wouldn't be much (possibly small eye tweaks in post-production to amplify the effects of contact lenses etc.).

They will more than likely require quite a bit of sfx for most monster/creature characters they decide to include though.

TheVaultDweller
More casting reveals:

https://screenrant.com/witcher-netflix-triss-merigold-anna-shaffer/

Surtur
Originally posted by Darth Thor
First look of Henry Cavill as Geralt:

https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2018/10/31/18047950/netflix-the-witcher-henry-cavill-geralt-costume

LOL! It looks like he's getting ready to star in a gay porn parody based on The Witcher.

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