Failkorion vs random necromancers in a cave

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Azronger
In Resurrection three sorcerers boast how they revived Darth Maul:

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The exact wording they use is "create" and "mold an individual in every way" which implies that the resurrection is more or less metaphorical; they didn't actually bring Maul back from the dead but rather spawned a facsimile via the dark side.

Consider: Darth Plagueis deemed the birth a Forceful being to be cosmic feat of unprecedented scope, and his attempts to do so were met with a firm retaliation from the Force:

Drunk on newfound power, then, he had attempted an even more unthinkable act: to bring into being a creation of his own. Not merely the impregnation of some hapless, mindless creature, but the birth of a Forceful being. The ability to dominate death had been a step in the right direction, but it wasn't equivalent to pure creation. And so he had stretched out - indeed, as if invisible, transubstantiated - to inform every being of his existence, and impact all of them: Muunoid or insectoid, secure or dispossessed, free or enslaved. A warrior waving a banner in triumph on a battlefield. A ghost infiltrating a dream.

But ultimately to no end.

The Force grew silent, as if in flight from him, and many of the animals in his laboratory succumbed to horrifying diseases.

(right before this he unbalances the Force with Sidious and suffuses the galaxy with the dark side - a cosmic feat of harrowing proportions in its own right - after which he revives Venamis ad nauseam by manipulating his midi-chlorians)

Given that to do what Plagueis attempted is a surefire way to attract the Force's anathema, it would seem like the prophets succeeded where Plagueis failed since they appear to have found a way around the Force's brute-force retaliations and actually created a Forceful being with a Force potential greater than Darth Sidious himself - Darth Maul. Granted, Plagueis did grow a lot after this point, so while the necromancers aren't necessarily more powerful than Darth Plagueis at his apex, they certainly have the power to outdo his earlier iterations.

We all know this to be true since that Maul totes wasn't an illusion, amirite?

This got me thinking how they would fare against Failkorion, someone now almost universally accepted to be beneath Plagueis. All combatants in their prime, Legends only, yada yada... all standard thread stipulations apply.

If this is spite then reduce the number of sorcerers to just one.

DarthAnt66
Seems like this thread can be titled Palpatine or ROTS Palpatine vs random necromancers in a cave also.

AncientPower
Dread Masters > Plagueis confirmed.

Azronger
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Seems like this thread can be titled Palpatine or ROTS Palpatine vs random necromancers in a cave also.

Who wins, Ant?

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Valkorion oneshots casually

CuckedCurry
Valkorion Vs Iktotchi Dark Jedi for round 2

Azronger
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Valkorion oneshots casually

I beg to differ. For one, I never saw Failkorion demonstrate cosmic mastery on the same scope as these three.

Lord Zed
Necromancers win by reviving Maul.

Maul was the biggest threat to the Jedi ever.

Azronger
That's actually corroborated by a factual quote

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ

The Ellimist
It's prob less ambiguous in how it correlates to Force power and mastery, and yet Valk's prob better at those proportional to his combat skill.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
No, it's still pretty damn ambiguous. Unless the necromancers/Darth Plagueis have more power and mastery than DE Sidious, but that's your prerogative.

The Ellimist
Well Sidious has other things going for him. It's a piece of the puzzle, not the complete picture, hence why these necromancers probably don't actually beat Valkorion.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I can agree with that.

Zenwolf
Prophets...they're Prophets, not necromancers. >< But that said, while the Prophets are powerful both combatant wise and just general force wise...yeah they can't win here.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Calling them necromancers in the thread title also literally contradicts the OP smile

Jaggarath
>is explicitly stated that Maul's "resurrected" OOU
>argues Maul's an illusion

The Ellimist
well OOU there are quite a few contradictory sources on the matter

Jaggarath
Some sources stating it's vague and one explicitly clarifying isn't contradictory.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
But it still means that the prophets are masters of midichlorian manipulation!

victreebelvictr
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
But it still means that the prophets are masters of midichlorian manipulation! They seem to be, though, even if they are more powerful than Vitiate in this aspect (which i sorta doubt) they can not run against him with everything else he has. Can they make a Nexus? Can they eliminate a battalion of some of the most powerful jedi of their time? Vitiate has much more to work with here, unlike these "almighty" prophets that are only good at Midichlorian Manipulation.

AncientPower
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
But it still means that the prophets are masters of midichlorian manipulation!

So is fvcking Darth Scarbous(or whatever the fvck his name is). Not to mention the Dread Masters.

Zenwolf
Originally posted by victreebelvictr
They seem to be, though, even if they are more powerful than Vitiate in this aspect (which i sorta doubt) they can not run against him with everything else he has. Can they make a Nexus? Can they eliminate a battalion of some of the most powerful jedi of their time? Vitiate has much more to work with here, unlike these "almighty" prophets that are only good at Midichlorian Manipulation.

They aren't only good at just that, from what they have and scaling they are pretty powerful, I just wouldn't place them this high.

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