Naga Sadow vs. Exar Kun
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victreebelvictr
Naga Sadow was a sith lord in the time of the Great Hyprerspace War and was thought to be one of the strongest sith lords of all time. Exar Kun was a fallen jedi and was taught by the sith lord Freedon Nadd himself, having knowledge and power. He decided to create a sith empire that would reign the sith in power once again. Take your pick.
MythLord
Exar Kun is canonically confirmed to be superior to Sadow. He wins.
victreebelvictr
Originally posted by MythLord
Exar Kun is canonically confirmed to be superior to Sadow. He wins. Please prove that, evidence please.
Lord Zed
Originally posted by MythLord
Exar Kun is canonically confirmed to be superior to Sadow. He wins.
It never said he surpassed all Sith Lords before him.
Jaggarath
Nadd's stated to be "far more powerful" than Sadow.
Lord Zed
Originally posted by Jaggarath
Nadd's stated to be "far more powerful" than Sadow.
Spirit or actual?
Did Kun surpass living Nadd?
victreebelvictr
Originally posted by Lord Zed
It never said he surpassed all Sith Lords before him. Thank you. Naga Sadow can whoop Kun with force power, but I am scared about the lightsaber skills.
MythLord
"Once the most powerful and dangerous of the Dark Lords of the Sith, he was responsible for the deaths of millions four millennia before the rise of the Empire."
- The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia
This confirms Exar was at one point the most powerful Sith Lord, of all time. He's later surpassed, of course, by many Sith such as Sidious, Vitiate, etc. Still doesn't change the fact that he's > Naga.
Sadow's best Force feats are amplified and under those conditions even Alema could replicate them. Kun one-shotted Alema. GG WP
victreebelvictr
Originally posted by MythLord
"Once the most powerful and dangerous of the Dark Lords of the Sith, he was responsible for the deaths of millions four millennia before the rise of the Empire."
- The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia
This confirms Exar was at one point the most powerful Sith Lord, of all time. He's later surpassed, of course, by many Sith such as Sidious, Vitiate, etc. Still doesn't change the fact that he's > Naga.
Sadow's best Force feats are amplified and under those conditions even Alema could replicate them. Kun one-shotted Alema. GG WP Have you ever thought that it meant of his time? This would also show you that he was more powerful than those of Tulak Hord and Marla Ragnos.
victreebelvictr
I highly disagree if this is the case.
MythLord
He is more powerful than Tulak and Marka. He's also more powerful than Nadd, which we know for sure, and we know Nadd is more powerful than Sadow.
victreebelvictr
Originally posted by MythLord
He is more powerful than Tulak and Marka. He's also more powerful than Nadd, which we know for sure, and we know Nadd is more powerful than Sadow. How is Nadd more powerful than Sadow, explain.
MythLord
Originally posted by victreebelvictr
How is Nadd more powerful than Sadow, explain.
By being stated as more powerful, and through logic.
Because he's been stated as such multiple times. And sure, statements can be wrong or retconned, but so far there's absolutely nothing to suggest this statement is wrong so it still stands. Ragnos and Tulak are sub-Kun by all accounts. Just because you cannot accept it doesn't mean it's not true.
AncientPower
I've debunked that stupid argument a thousand fvcling times, read this:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/exar-kun-the-chronological-respect-thread-2018-1970527/
victreebelvictr
Originally posted by AncientPower
I've debunked that stupid argument a thousand fvcling times, read this:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/exar-kun-the-chronological-respect-thread-2018-1970527/ Already did, there are still unbelievers.
MythLord
Good for Vodo; he's probably better than Marka and Tulak, then.
I'm sure he could defeat an army of 10,000s if he had an army of his own, like Hord had. He also didn't need a ritual to become a Force Ghost, he needed a ritual to survive the Wall of Light cast by the entire Jedi Order.
Deronn Solo
Kun has no answer for illusions.
snoke123
naga sadow can blow up the sun?
victreebelvictr
Originally posted by MythLord
Good for Vodo; he's probably better than Marka and Tulak, then.
I'm sure he could defeat an army of 10,000s if he had an army of his own, like Hord had. He also didn't need a ritual to become a Force Ghost, he needed a ritual to survive the Wall of Light cast by the entire Jedi Order. You obviously don't remember what Khem Val said," He could take on armies of tens of thousands using only the blade."
notice that they said he, not he and army, just he. Meaning that he could do that by himself.
MythLord
You mean the same Khem Val that participated in those armies? It's not like Khem is a reliable source; he thinks Darth Nox is a reliable replacement for Tulak Hord, so Nox can now defeat tens of thousands by themselves? The same Nox that got headaches just by being in the same room as an artifact of Exar Kun's?
So Kun > Nox ~ Tulak, according to you.
MythLord
1. If they weren't recorded, then how do we know it's legit?
2. And that being true, it's still invalid to assume everything he says is factual.
3. Khem obviously believes Nox is at least comparable to Tulak, so the comparison still stands.
victreebelvictr
Originally posted by MythLord
1. If they weren't recorded, then how do we know it's legit?
2. And that being true, it's still invalid to assume everything he says is factual.
3. Khem obviously believes Nox is at least comparable to Tulak, so the comparison still stands.
1. It is known that about two battles were truly important that were named, though, it also mentions that he fought in hundreds of battles meaning they are legitimate, just not known for their name.
2. That is true, but at least we have someone who was a direct source from him. Why would he lie about the master he loved ever so much. Would he try to make him sound more powerful than he is, maybe. But he states that Tulak is an extremely dangerous opponent which we are sure about. I estimate that about 88% of what he says is true at the LEAST.
3. Compares to him, but not as powerful. Tulak recorded that Lord Kallig was his most powerful rival. Though, we all know that Tulak could beat him, Same with Nox.
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