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Rank these in:

1. Raw intellect
2. Charisma
3. Wisdom

Valkorion would win in a game of naughts and crosses.

Palpatine in chess.

Sheev wins all three

Wisdom is tricky.

Charisma is a close one between Palps and Valk, though Revan is up there as well tbh.

Raw Intellect wise though, the other two are not even sentient compared to Palpatine.

1. Revan
2. Revan
3. Sidious/Valkorion.

Though depends on the type of intellect.
Revan would outstrip Sidious in battle tactics, while I see Sidious a better manipulator.

Originally posted by Sinious
Wisdom is tricky.

Charisma is a close one between Palps and Valk, though Revan is up there as well tbh.

Raw Intellect wise though, the other two are not even sentient compared to Palpatine. Revan is one of the greatest minds in SW, he'd humiliate either of these men in a game of pure wits.

Palpatine isn't that smart, he's just a good manipulator.

I highly doubt Revan would've lost the battle of Endor should he have been the one that created the death star.

He's always been on the level of Thrawn in terms of strategy and tactics.

Revan's got the best mind for tactics and strategy. Valkorion is far and away the best long-game planner. Sidious is the best manipulator and political mastermind.

Palps should win all. That guy is a genius, not only did he study and master saber forms and the dark side, but apparently also studied a lot to become the Chancellor of the Republic. We are talking about the most important institution in SW, I doubt they would choose the first idiot they count to lead them. Guess Palpy got at least a degree or two in the Harvard or Cambridge of the SW universe

Revan is second though imo

That's Ant for ya.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Revan's got the best mind for tactics and strategy. Valkorion is far and away the best long-game planner. Sidious is the best manipulator and political mastermind.


Originally posted by Total Warrior
Palps should win all. That guy is a genius, not only did he study and master saber forms and the dark side, but apparently also studied a lot to become the Chancellor of the Republic. We are talking about the most important institution in SW, I doubt they would choose the first idiot they count to lead them. Guess Palpy got at least a degree or two in the Harvard or Cambridge of the SW universe
You should read Star Wars: Darth Plagueis.

Originally posted by Galan007
That's Ant for ya.
???

Ah, my mistake.

You should have never copied Jmanghan's username. You guys are almost indistinguishable now.

If it wasn't for that splash of red on Jumanji's sig avatar, you would never know. It's like identical twins, but one has a big dirty mole on his cheek.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD



You should read Star Wars: Darth Plagueis. sure I will

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
You should read Star Wars: Darth Plagueis. What are you referring to exactly?

Thrawn might be better, but he wouldn't "whoop," lol.

Originally posted by Jaggarath
Thrawn might be better, but he wouldn't "whoop," lol. Umm, well, he would beat him.

50/50.

Revan was powerful, both in the force and tactics, though, Thrawn was the best strategist in the whole Galactic Empire.

Cool?

Originally posted by Jaggarath
Cool? Does that not seem like a feat to you? Ask Galan, he will probably agree.

I'd say he's one of the best in the whole mythos, not just the GE...though still it is a feat given there's quite a lot of established/great tacticians/strategists within the Empire.

That said though, I kinda have a hard time believing Revan being near Thrawn. Think this would be more beneficial for another thread though.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
1. Raw intellect

Hard to say. A lot of their successes can't really just be chalked to raw intellect. None of them are Darth Tenebrous.



Also hard to say. We're dealing with a military leader, a political leader, and a religious leader; the comparisons aren't really 1-to-1.



Spirit Revan.

Didn't Sidious also have loads of sith and jedi secrets to his disposal.

He did

Yet, many were destroyed by Gravid.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Hard to say. A lot of their successes can't really just be chalked to raw intellect. None of them are Darth Tenebrous.



Also hard to say. We're dealing with a military leader, a political leader, and a religious leader; the comparisons aren't really 1-to-1.



Spirit Revan. Is Tenebrous some great mastermind? I dunno much about him.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Is Tenebrous some great mastermind? I dunno much about him. He was one of the smartest sith lords of all time. He was extremely book smart and somehow incorporated bith science in his fighting instead of sith sorcery.