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canon Vader definitely could, especially since its implied he is better than Dooku

Yes, but Dooku was so easily ragdolled by her. She also had the ability of Lightning Manipulation.

It was not exactly Force Lightning, but it is pretty close.

Vader and Lightning doesn't mix.

Well its not like Windu stood there taking her Lightning in his hands or something.

Yes, but Vader is not Mace Windu, now is he.

He could tank it, but it won't be for very long.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Yes, but Vader is not Mace Windu, now is he.

He could tank it, but it won't be for very long.

He could absorb the lightning with his saber

In the Clone Wars, she visited Dooku as an illusion even though her physical body was at Dathomir.

She could appear at him from all different angles.

Vader would be completely screwed if he couldn't block the real Talzin.

Not to mention that she also kept up with Mace Windu in dueling.

She can at least stall Vader with her dueling skills.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Yes, but Vader is not Mace Windu, now is he.

He could tank it, but it won't be for very long.


Point is Vaders suit being weak to Lightning may not even be a factor.

Talzin held her own against Mace in sabers, while being weakened. Sidious stomped her in sabers, but she wasn't in her own body, so that outcome might be debatable. Anyway, she did very well against Sidious in a Force battle and fought him nearly as equal (nearly, coz I believe, that he was overpowering her at the end, a moment before she recieved support from Maul). That's something that Vader, in my opinion, is not capable of.

Vader wins.

Originally posted by Vitiate
Vader wins. No reasoning, it is pretty obvious you have no idea what Talzin is capable of.

Originally posted by McP
Talzin held her own against Mace in sabers, while being weakened. Sidious stomped her in sabers, but she wasn't in her own body, so that outcome might be debatable. Anyway, she did very well against Sidious in a Force battle and fought him nearly as equal (nearly, coz I believe, that he was overpowering her at the end, a moment before she recieved support from Maul). That's something that Vader, in my opinion, is not capable of.
Agreed, great post.

I know exactly what Talzin is capable of. And it is not enough to win against Vader.

Btw are we talking about Legends Vader or Canon Vader? Because Canon Vader loses to Talzin (you named the reasons).

Legends Vader, just to give him a little boost.

Suit Vader is according to some quotes even more powerful than MF Vader. Someone who is in Sidious' and Talzin's league. Also, if Vader can tank Sidious' lightning then he will tank Talzin's as well.

Not for long though, he is still weaker to it than the average Sith.

Vader has nothing stating he can resist Nightsister magic.

He gets possessed, power has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well its not like Windu stood there taking her Lightning in his hands or something.

.... wait when

@Sel
I mean unless Dooku is stronger than Sidious, how is his power alone able to bring Talzin back to physical form at full power? Dooku is still shown to be stronger than Maul as well, so he clearly wasn't fully drained.

Quotes stating Talzin to be almost as powerful as Sidious are sketchy to me, and are clearly contradicted by the SoD showing.

Either we accept Dooku is Sheev+ tier, or Talzin is solidly less powerful than someone weaker than Sidious.

Can Talzin make voodoo?

Yeah, but not in the middle of battle.

@Sel
Talzin 'died' after she fought Mace though... She was in spirit form in SoD. She's significantly weaker, basically without power, until she drains Dooku.

Retarded point is retarded.

Even as a spirit she kept with Mace, impressive indeed.

if Talzin has a vader doll, she wins.

^I hear Hasbro makes some nice ones.

even if Mother Talzin can not do voodoo, I still think she wins because of her intangibility and Possession