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It's a slugfest, the opponents must use only their physicals to prevail.
RULES
Post Crisis Despero (specified version/storyline)
616 Thanos
Random encounter
Bloodlusted/Morals off

Honestly too damn close to call.
Ive been trying to pick a winner since I first saw it and still cant

Thanos would beat the life out of him. There's no way that Aquaman would ever give Thanos a tough time.

Originally posted by Stoic
Thanos would beat the life out of him. There's no way that Aquaman would ever give Thanos a tough time.

DEMONIC GAMMITE LIES!!!

Originally posted by Stoic
Thanos would beat the life out of him. There's no way that Aquaman would ever give Thanos a tough time.

When did Aquaman do that in Virtue and Vice?

When was Aquaman -IN- Virtue & Vice?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
When did Aquaman do that in Virtue and Vice?

Despero isn't Despero? Or was that a different Despero?

Originally posted by Stoic
Despero isn't Despero? Or was that a different Despero?

Well threadstarter specified Despero as seen in V&V....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well threadstarter specified Despero as seen in V&V....

Well is Despero Despero, in both or not? Despero of v and v fought a bunch of characters that forgot to stop using their faces as punching bags. It becomes more and more evident after we come to realize that Superman alone was more than a match for him. PIS won that fight imho.

Originally posted by Stoic
Well is Despero Despero, in both or not? Despero of v and v fought a bunch of characters that forgot to stop using their faces as punching bags.

So a slugfest, like in this thread

But that's not the point.

Despero is limited here to his showings from V&V. Like it or not, that's what the OP has stipped.

Low showings, using Aquaman? I wonder if Thanos is allowed his low showings too? HE isn't limited to a single storyline - one could pick and choose low showings from his entire history

Edit: I mean, you talk about PIS, then bring up Aquaman giving him a tough time.

Then a few panels later, him and Martian Manhunter COMBINED fall to him.

That's like being Tyson being given a tough time by Holyfield....then wait, Holyfield now has Ali in his prime helping him, and Tyson now beats both of them, lol.

Dione

Originally posted by Stoic
Well is Despero Despero, in both or not? Despero of v and v fought a bunch of characters that forgot to stop using their faces as punching bags. It becomes more and more evident after we come to realize that Superman alone was more than a match for him. PIS won that fight imho.

THIS IS THE DESPERO YOU GET, GAMMITE!!!

https://jlurevisited.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/jla-jsa-052.jpg


https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/72524/3941238-7398460359-39118.png

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
THIS IS THE DESPERO YOU GET, GAMMITE!!!

Yeah, thats the guy.
And, HM draws some blood, does some grill work w. his mace, but, its not as if Thanos has never been made to bleed his own blood.
https://image.ibb.co/jDHDuz/7_CB48994_7141_406_A_AE92_669291028729.jpg

It does Namor about as much good as it did HM.
https://image.ibb.co/kJFNnK/3532_C9_E9_82_FB_4151_B31_E_44145_D25_F597.jpg

Except, Namor uses only his fists, and doesn't hide behind two teams like that Thanagarian wuss bag.

This still seems close.
Like Ds pointed out though, if ppl want to lowball Despero, they only have this story (V & V) to go by. Thanos on the other hand...
https://i.redd.it/7il5z3wb4us01.jpg
...has a long and not so perfect history.

Originally posted by Stoic
Thanos would beat the life out of him. There's no way that Aquaman would ever give Thanos a tough time.

Hahaha so when has Arthur given Despero a hard time even outside V&V?]



If your going to try and invalidate a point maybe you should read the scan first.

1. Hawkman attacked from a blimd side while Despero was engaging and casually dealling with 2 high heralds.

2. The only damage done was a little bit of blood from the gums from a guy who has zero piercing durability

3. All it served was to piss despero off. No damage not even knocked off balance. Or disorented. Instead his response is to oneshot him.

4. Same mace due to the fact it increases striking power has a similar effect on black reign Black Adam (that's on the level of WWIII). It did HM no more good vs Adam than Despero. He took longer to get the crap beaten out of hin by BA but thats because he has considerably less damage output than Despero and he drew it out long enough for the healing effects of Nth to help HM last.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30145/4058141-adam+v+hawk+3+.jpg

Originally posted by riv6672
Yeah, thats the guy.
And, HM draws some blood, does some grill work w. his mace, but, its not as if Thanos has never been made to bleed his own blood.
https://image.ibb.co/jDHDuz/7_CB48994_7141_406_A_AE92_669291028729.jpg

It does Namor about as much good as it did HM.
https://image.ibb.co/kJFNnK/3532_C9_E9_82_FB_4151_B31_E_44145_D25_F597.jpg

Except, Namor uses only his fists, and doesn't hide behind two teams like that Thanagarian wuss bag.

This still seems close.
Like Ds pointed out though, if ppl want to lowball Despero, they only have this story (V & V) to go by. Thanos on the other hand...
https://i.redd.it/7il5z3wb4us01.jpg
...has a long and not so perfect history. fake army guy shows his lack of understanding again. at using non canon scan, not shocked really coming from a guy who lies about serving in the forces to gain credibility.

Great Beatboks scan, thats a keeper!

Originally posted by riv6672
Great Beatboks scan, thats a keeper! fake military coward.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
That is why the Nth metal AUGMENTS his striking power.

It has been canon for DECADES now.

Keep showing your idiocy though! still nothing compared to Namor feats you dumb inbred child

Originally posted by Insane Titan
still nothing compared to Namor feats you dumb inbred child

Yes, because LIFTING feats are the same as STRIKING feats you moronic mongrel.

Not to mention Namor's publishing history allows him at least a 2 to 1 average in terms of depictions.

Originally posted by riv6672
Great Beatboks scan, thats a keeper!

Theres plenty

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30145/4709322-hawkmanv42810.jpg~original.jpg
The car was actually speeding at him. Crims on the run in a stolen car.

Originally posted by beatboks
Theres plenty

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30145/4709322-hawkmanv42810.jpg~original.jpg
The car was actually speeding at him. Crims on the run in a stolen car.
Crime does not pay!

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Here is a CHALLENGE even you should be able to understand!

SHOW NAMOR'S GREATEST STRIKING FEATS. Hulk Hulk Hulk Hulk Hulk Hulk

But seriously, Namor is like right there to the top tiers. Somedays he knocks on the door, sometimes he kicks it down and rapes Thor. Next month Gayron might be making him face off against the Avengers. It might be the only good thing he writes if Namor solos the Avengers.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Hulk Hulk Hulk Hulk Hulk Hulk

But seriously, Namor is like right there to the top tiers. Somedays he knocks on the door, sometimes he kicks it down and rapes Thor. Next month Gayron might be making him face off against the Avengers. It might be the only good thing he writes if Namor solos the Avengers.

Hulk has been hit harder by Thing routinely than Namor. There are others like Black Bolt, Wonder Man, and Ikaris but all of those are essentially peers of Namor.

The point I was making is that Hawkman through the use of Nth metal has been able to display striking power on par with 80-90 ton range characters. Even more he has routinely hurt characters WAY above his strength level.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Hulk has been hit harder by Thing routinely than Namor. There are others like Black Bolt, Wonder Man, and Ikaris but all of those are essentially peers of Namor.

The point I was making is that Hawkman through the use of Nth metal has been able to display striking power on par with 80-90 ton range characters. Even more he has routinely hurt characters WAY above his strength level. Hulk has been knocked out by Namor though. You asked for striking feats, not how he routinely does in comparison to Thing.
And Namor has foddered Wonder Man/Ares. He's also fairly consistently in Thor/Herc's tier outside some choice showings. Even his fight against Hyperion showed him doing incredibly well physically until well...
Ikaris is supposed to be incredibly high in strength as well, and Black Bolt amping is too.

That tier is only muddied because of how we interpret Thing, but he doesn't define that tier. Thing scales up or down to everything in comics. He can fight everyone well.


I agree with Hawkman though. He hits really hard for being a pussy. He's the Thor of that tier. I'm just saying that Namor is a beast is all.

This is the best thread going right now.

Also, the car feat is a good one, no doubt.

Yes, folks the IDIOCY of Insane Titan knows no bounds!

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Yes, folks the IDIOCY of Insane Titan knows no bounds! as thought you are nothing.

Look how much of a loser you are trying to act up for other posters.

Hawkman also made Magog bleed, though.

https://i.imgur.com/9e0KmaG.jpg

And he was no slouch:
http://i.imgur.com/qglwijR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dZWLC7w.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/iaKJGho.jpg

'The alternative is....we're not hurting him...'

I've been corrected. Magog was time travelling and healing.

My point still remains, however. He's a tough cookie, and Hawkman made him bleed all the same.

Ergo, him making Despero bleed is no low feat.