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What if the US elected a leader so deranged (Nor saying Trump is such a leader :evil, that he wakes up one day and thinks, "The world would be a lot safer, if there was less of them then us. Preferably, none of them."

And then he tries to alpha strike the entire world into extinction.



How much of anything would he left? Just an all out, genocidal attack from all sides. No taking territory, no surrenders, no quarter asked or given. Fight to the last man.

Just the US against everyone else.

As Ryan Howard once said, after all the major nations have destroyed each other it'll just be the tribes in the jungles that rise up and survive, and the world will be ruled by jungle warfare.

The best we could hope to accomplish is mutually assured destruction.

The most successful warrior nation in history, the size of one of your states would help you end the world by ending you too.

Okay.

All I know is that we'd wreck the UK something fierce.

Russia and China would eat us alive.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Russia and China would eat us alive.

Conventional warfare, maybe. But emptying the nuke supply?

Originally posted by Surtur
Okay.

All I know is that we'd wreck the UK something fierce.


Your dopey, jello pudding eating forces probably couldn't even find the UK on a map.

Originally posted by cdtm
Conventional warfare, maybe. But emptying the nuke supply? How about India, Russia, and China than?

Originally posted by samhain
Your dopey, jello pudding eating forces probably couldn't even find the UK on a map.

We'd slap the UK down something utterly fierce it would be hilarious.

Then we'd prevent any survivors from ever watching a soccer game again just to f*ck with them.

Originally posted by Surtur
Okay.

All I know is that we'd wreck the UK something fierce. And our Nukes outdated as they are would obliterate every major city... Fact, the radioactive dust cloud would lead to the end of the world.

Interesting facts, strongest man in the World: British
World heavyweight boxing Champ: British

Only 70 million of us but we are ****ing awesome at violence. Your sheer weight of numbers would defeat us in conventional warfare, but you are not a warrior nation. Your empire is built on economic might, backed by weapons rarely used on people who can credibly fight back, ours was based on subjugating other nations, initially our near equals in Europe and then people with sticks and bows and arrows whilst we used Guns.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
And our Nukes outdated as they are would obliterate every major city... Fact, the radioactive dust cloud would lead to the end of the world.

Interesting facts, strongest man in the World: British
World heavyweight boxing Champ: British

Only 70 million of us but we are ****ing awesome at violence. Your sheer weight of numbers would defeat us in conventional warfare, but you are not a warrior nation. Your empire is built on economic might, backed by weapons rarely used on people who can credibly fight back, ours was based on subjugating other nations, initially our near equals in Europe and then people with sticks and bows and arrows whilst we used Guns.

Neat, we'd still destroy you.

Originally posted by Surtur
Neat, we'd still destroy you. As we would you in an all out Nuclear War. That's why it's called mutually assured destruction.

i honestly like the UK more than America, but America has the most powerful military on the Earth.

UK is behind Japan at about 7 or 8.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
i honestly like the UK more than America, but America has the most powerful military on the Earth.

UK is behind Japan at about 7 or 8. Our spend is about equal with Saudi Arabia, at around 5 per capita. However most of the Saudi spend is on Yemen and Policing the Empty Quarter. Our Tech thanks to BAE systems is generally second to the US and ahead in a number of areas like drone tech. But who cares Japan don't have nukes. Which are the big leveller.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
i honestly like the UK more than America, but America has the most powerful military on the Earth.

UK is behind Japan at about 7 or 8.

It's such a great place what with an average of 9 people a day being arrested for online hate speech and people being put on trial for nazi dog jokes.

Originally posted by Surtur
It's such a great place what with an average of 9 people a day being arrested for online hate speech and people being put on trial for nazi dog jokes. That would make it a great day if we were that active in dealing with the far right threat. Sadly don't believe all you read.

It's never a great day if you're arresting people cuz something they said online hurt your fee fee's. Do you not have adults in the UK? I thought that was a thing you guys had there. Such a thing makes more sense if the place is made up purely of children.

And was it a good day when you guys put a dude on trial for jokingly teaching his dog to do a nazi salute?

My apologies, I have just discovered that the Britain is right above Japan at around 6, behind France.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
My apologies, I have just discovered that the Britain is right above Japan at around 6, behind France. Yup. However the spending pattern is different not that that matters, all the nations in the world could not beat the US in a conventional war, we have to go to nukes for MOD in this one. Scorched Earth all round.

Originally posted by Surtur
It's never a great day if you're arresting people cuz something they said online hurt your fee fee's. Do you not have adults in the UK? I thought that was a thing you guys had there. Such a thing makes more sense if the place is made up purely of children.

And was it a good day when you guys put a dude on trial for jokingly teaching his dog to do a nazi salute? dur

Originally posted by Putinbot1
As we would you in an all out Nuclear War. That's why it's called mutually assured destruction.

Agreed.

Assuming they're not hiding an ace. Say, Star Wars was a success, but they pretended it was a failure. Or some way to defeat nukes from hostiles.

At this point, who needs a military when you can just have nukes?

Thor only wins because either The Russian, American, or UK competitors get hurt.

Eddie Hall, Brian Shaw, and even Old Man Big Z are quite a bit stronger than Thor. Eddie Hall (UK) at his peak is all around the strongest man in history.


Joshua is in kind of a shitty era though. The other top comp are either severely old, being a pussy, or completely wild. Don't expect him to get beaten nowadays, but he certainly would had he faced off against previously great champs at their best. He's pretty chinny though so he might get caught if he fights Deontay.

Getting flashbacks from the Delta Vs SAS thread.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Thor only wins because either The Russian, American, or UK competitors get hurt.

Eddie Hall, Brian Shaw, and even Old Man Big Z are quite a bit stronger than Thor. Eddie Hall (UK) at his peak is all around the strongest man in history.


Joshua is in kind of a shitty era though. The other top comp are either severely old, being a pussy, or completely wild. Don't expect him to get beaten nowadays, but he certainly would had he faced off against previously great champs at their best. He's pretty chinny though so he might get caught if he fights Deontay. yeah and of course Lennox Lewis took the heavyweight title from America unified it, beat everyone in his era. America have not had the top version of the belt since. Fury then beat Klitscho giving the top belts back to the UK and went doolally due to coke and Joshua again won for the UK. Much as I like DDM I doubt he has a clue who the Beast is and yes he is still alive and the strongest man who ever lived... DDM doesn't strike me as the kind of guy to watch boxing or strong man events...

This guy?

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'The first man in history to lift 500kg. Eddie Hall smashes previous world record of 465kg that he set earlier that night at the World Deadlift Championships.'

Originally posted by Robtard
This guy?

T9Y4o_BqC0A

'The first man in history to lift 500kg. Eddie Hall smashes previous world record of 465kg that he set earlier that night at the World Deadlift Championships.' That's him and what's funnier is he is really ****ing intelligent.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
yeah and of course Lennox Lewis took the heavyweight title from America unified it, beat everyone in his era.


True, he really personified the 'sweet science' of boxing... could be argued he's half Canadian though, he did move there when he was 11 or 12 and represented them at the Olympics.

Originally posted by samhain
True, he really personified the 'sweet science' of boxing... could be argued he's half Canadian though, he did move there when he was 11 or 12 and represented them at the Olympics. He says he hated being there and getting bullied by Canadians for being from Britain is what forced him to beat them all.

@Bran @Sam @Rob I still believe if Fury returned given his uniqueness and his inability to be hurt, skill and size for a man so gigantic he would beat everyone. Joshua is a chinny good Boxer as Bran said, Fury is boring to watch, dirty as ****, very skilful for a freak and knows every trick in the book. He is also when lucid a tricky mofo.

My boxing era, when I REALLY cared about the sport was the mid/late 80's to late 90's, maybe early 00's.

I know he's not the best of the very best, but Evander Holyfield is the boxer I enjoyed seeing compete most in that time.

Originally posted by Robtard
My boxing era, when I REALLY cared about the sport was the mid/late 80's to late 90's, maybe early 00's.

I know he's not the best of the very best, but Evander Holyfield is the boxer I enjoyed seeing compete most in that time. He is my hero, all heart and steroids (probably at heavyweight) and one hell of a chin. Actually, he had great skills too. He couldn't have won all those divisions otherwise. His first fight with Lennox though, the partisan anti-Lennox judge who caused the draw, still neads a beating almost 20 years on.

I vaguely recall that fight, the controversy.

Fury has a lot of capability, but he's just so undisciplined, he makes Mike Tyson look like phucking Yoda. Hagler was my personal all time favourite though.

@Rob it was one of the worst decisions in history

@ Sam, I could not have put it better myself. Can you imagine how tasteless the fight banter would have been if we could do an out of time promotion of Mike Tyson Vs. Tyson Fury. Some classic banter from each, I'll eat your children or I'll **** you till you love me phag etc. Vs. All gays are sinners and should die. I'm Fats but my wife is good looking, you are ugly but your wife is ****ing grotesque... it would be xxx rated.

Originally posted by samhain
Fury has a lot of capability, but he's just so undisciplined, he makes Mike Tyson look like phucking Yoda. Hagler was my personal all time favourite though. Mike Tyson was crazy disciplined though when it came to training. Guy probably trained harder than anyone else.
He just also liked to cause shit.

But yeah, Fury is annoying. He's very skilled, but he's being a pussy right now. I don't know if he'd knock out Joshua but I think he'd probably decision him at the top of his game.


Also, didn't Hall cut back on the strongman shit? I'm pretty sure he lost some weight and got quite a bit healthier from the last time I looked into him. I remember watching that doc about when Big Z beat Shaw, and Hall was all about winning one and then cutting back. His wife hated his weight and health.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Mike Tyson was crazy disciplined though when it came to training. Guy probably trained harder than anyone else.
He just also liked to cause shit.

But yeah, Fury is annoying. He's very skilled, but he's being a pussy right now. I don't know if he'd knock out Joshua but I think he'd probably decision him at the top of his game.


Also, didn't Hall cut back on the strongman shit? I'm pretty sure he lost some weight and got quite a bit healthier from the last time I looked into him. I remember watching that doc about when Big Z beat Shaw, and Hall was all about winning one and then cutting back. His wife hated his weight and health. Agreed, on everything. Fury fights Wilder in October awesome fight, I'm looking forward to Joshua in a few hours. Yes, Eddie will no longer compete Internationally, he got worried I think about the injuries he was wracking up. He Is a very smart guy for his age.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Much as I like DDM I doubt he has a clue who the Beast is and yes he is still alive and the strongest man who ever lived... DDM doesn't strike me as the kind of guy to watch boxing or strong man events...

Bait finally taken:

Why did you type all those words but skipped over the fact that you're wrong. eheheheee

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Agreed, on everything. Fury fights Wilder in October awesome fight, I'm looking forward to Joshua in a few hours. Yes, Eddie will no longer compete Internationally, he got worried I think about the injuries he was wracking up. He Is a very smart guy for his age. Forgot about Fury vs Wilder. I'm not sold on Wilder tbh. People say he hits harder than Tyson and all that, uh...
I'm not sold on any of the current heavyweights for that matter. They're incredibly talented yes, but each seems to have a flaw going for them, and they don't really seem to be brilliant in any aspect. Wilder is his namesake. Fury is boring and lacks power. Joshua is probably the most well rounded but you expect him to get dropped off every shot.
Meh, not a good time for heavies.

Makes sense. Eddie is literally always hurt. He already made history, no point in continuing to ruin his health.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Forgot about Fury vs Wilder. I'm not sold on Wilder tbh. People say he hits harder than Tyson and all that, uh...
I'm not sold on any of the current heavyweights for that matter. They're incredibly talented yes, but each seems to have a flaw going for them, and they don't really seem to be brilliant in any aspect. Wilder is his namesake. Fury is boring and lacks power. Joshua is probably the most well rounded but you expect him to get dropped off every shot.
Meh, not a good time for heavies.

Makes sense. Eddie is literally always hurt. He already made history, no point in continuing to ruin his health. I'm not sold on them either, both Fury and Joshua are interesting background stories. Joshua is a grandson of a Yoruba tribal leader in Nigeria and is kept away from Nigeria because he is almost the political one ring for that tribe. And Fury is king of the Gypsies, my maternal grandfather actually knew his family.

Yeah, Eddie has made the right choice, he pushed himself almost to comic book strength levels. Amazing fact a day of doing nothing in bed means almost 6000 calories for Eddie. Competition time 13,000 calories.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Mike Tyson was crazy disciplined though when it came to training. Guy probably trained harder than anyone else.


Have to be honest, don't know too much about his training regime but it has always seemed to me that he suffered from what a small number of sportspeople suffer from, which is that he was too naturally fit and healthy as a young man, his metabolism was so good he didn't have to work as hard as others his age which subsequently meant that by the time that natural fitness wore off he hadn't developed the discipline he needed to keep going at the level he had established. An English footballer named Robbie Fowler suffered from the same thing IMO.

Originally posted by samhain
Have to be honest, don't know too much about his training regime but it has always seemed to me that he suffered from what a small number of sportspeople suffer from, which is that he was too naturally fit and healthy as a young man, his metabolism was so good he didn't have to work as hard as others his age which subsequently meant that by the time that natural fitness wore off he hadn't developed the discipline he needed to keep going at the level he had established. An English footballer named Robbie Fowler suffered from the same thing IMO. Robbie and Fury also suffered from too much of the Demon coke, do you remember Robbies celebration when he tried to sniff the touchline? Arguably the greatest moment in Sports History.

@DDM, you obviously missed the fact the Beast is the strongest man ever in the World, no one else has ever lifted 500Kg in History. He retired from International Competition the champ, until someone beats his stats he is the strongest man ever in the world and Fury will probably beat Wilder on October the 1st. He is the last lineal heavyweight Champ btw although he was stripped of the titles when he went doolally.

Originally posted by samhain
Have to be honest, don't know too much about his training regime but it has always seemed to me that he suffered from what a small number of sportspeople suffer from, which is that he was too naturally fit and healthy as a young man, his metabolism was so good he didn't have to work as hard as others his age which subsequently meant that by the time that natural fitness wore off he hadn't developed the discipline he needed to keep going at the level he had established. An English footballer named Robbie Fowler suffered from the same thing IMO. Mike Tyson used to wake up at 4am to run because he figured other boxers weren't waking up that early.

Here's a good short article on it
http://www.mightyfighter.com/inside-mike-tysons-typical-training-routine/

This also doesn't cover his weightlifting either.

Tyson trained extremely hard. There's a great chance he was roiding as well. Most importantly though, he went to shit because Cus died and Rooney got fired. It's doubtful he ever trained that hard after Cus died. They pushed him, and he pushed himself. Cus was like a dad to Mike and once that was gone it's likely his training went to shit. That would have been when he relied more on his natural talents than training.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Robbie and Fury also suffered from too much of the Demon coke, do you remember Robbies celebration when he tried to sniff the touchline? Arguably the greatest moment in Sports History.


Don't think anyone will ever forget that, lol. Made all the sweeter because in was in the derby as well.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Mike Tyson used to wake up at 4am to run because he figured other boxers weren't waking up that early.

Here's a good short article on it
http://www.mightyfighter.com/inside-mike-tysons-typical-training-routine/

This also doesn't cover his weightlifting either.

Tyson trained extremely hard. There's a great chance he was roiding as well. Most importantly though, he went to shit because Cus died and Rooney got fired. It's doubtful he ever trained that hard after Cus died. They pushed him, and he pushed himself. Cus was like a dad to Mike and once that was gone it's likely his training went to shit. That would have been when he relied more on his natural talents than training. All true, but he went to shit with one of Cus's trainers daughters allegedly before that, have you ever heard the story how Lewis was sent away as his sparring partner, I can't remember which fight because he worked him? I loved Tyson and even sent him a letter wishing him well in Prison, as time has gone on and more stuff about the Cus and Rooney years has come out, I've lost some sympathy for him. He was always on the edge of committing crime imo, although fair play he seems to have turned himself right around.

Cus died in 85, and Rooney got fired in I believe 89.

Interesting about the daughter though.

There are conflicting reports. One said that Tyson beat the shit out of him, Lewis says that they both gave out an equal amount. Haven't heard about Lewis beating the shit out of him. I think it's more of in-between of Lewis and Tyson beating the shit out of him tbh. I just don't think Lewis at that time would be ready for an animalistic sparring session with Tyson looking to kill sparring partners.

Oh yeah, Tyson seemed like a massive piece of shit. Even just his sparring is shitty. You don't dummy partners like that. Street fights, and the like as well. Had Cus not taken him in, I'm sure he would have killed a few people.
But his sparring was a good reason of why he was so good. Being a psycho probably helped too. He denies it now, but he really wanted to hurt people when he went in the ring.

Originally posted by samhain
Don't think anyone will ever forget that, lol. Made all the sweeter because in was in the derby as well. Sadly though, I think it was the beginning of the end for him. The shit he took over that, he never came back from.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Sadly though, I think it was the beginning of the end for him. The shit he took over that, he never came back from.


He was already on the wane at that point for about a year or two I reckon but anyone who can score more goals for Liverpool than Kenny Dalglish can't be too bad.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Cus died in 85, and Rooney got fired in I believe 89.

Interesting about the daughter though.

There are conflicting reports. One said that Tyson beat the shit out of him, Lewis says that they both gave out an equal amount. Haven't heard about Lewis beating the shit out of him. I think it's more of in-between of Lewis and Tyson beating the shit out of him tbh. I just don't think Lewis at that time would be ready for an animalistic sparring session with Tyson looking to kill sparring partners.

Oh yeah, Tyson seemed like a massive piece of shit. Even just his sparring is shitty. You don't dummy partners like that. Street fights, and the like as well. Had Cus not taken him in, I'm sure he would have killed a few people.
But his sparring was a good reason of why he was so good. Being a psycho probably helped too. He denies it now, but he really wanted to hurt people when he went in the ring. The report I first read was in Lewis's biography (so bias abounds), the first session Tyson worked him. Then Lewis towards the end of it started hiding behind his jab and firing off. Tyson hit Lewis full on and staggered him but didn't knock him down. The session was stopped, the next day they sparred again and the body shots mainly a right hook to the body Tyson had been setting off firing the jab the day before were negated by Lewis who got his jab off first. Remember Lewis had perhaps the jab of all time, Tyson became frustrated and started losing his shit, and again it was stopped. Lewis was sent back to the UK.

Tyson threw every punch with bad intentions and yeah, his first biography had him beating up men at 13 for money. I believe it too; he was a freak... I love it when I speak to someone who loves boxing as much as me Bran.

Nice to see Joshua winning, with Wilder ducking Joshua to fight Fury, the division becomes interesting.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
The report I first read was in Lewis's biography (so bias abounds), the first session Tyson worked him. Then Lewis towards the end of it started hiding behind his jab and firing off. Tyson hit Lewis full on and staggered him but didn't knock him down. The session was stopped, the next day they sparred again and the body shots mainly a right hook to the body Tyson had been setting off firing the jab the day before were negated by Lewis who got his jab off first. Remember Lewis had perhaps the jab of all time, Tyson became frustrated and started losing his shit, and again it was stopped. Lewis was sent back to the UK.

Tyson threw every punch with bad intentions and yeah, his first biography had him beating up men at 13 for money. I believe it too; he was a freak... I love it when I speak to someone who loves boxing as much as me Bran. That sounds plausible I guess. I don't like how I've never thought about buying boxing biographies though. I've been sticking to music ones and you just opened a whole new realm for me.

I always liked boxing but until the last two years have I been hugely into it.
I autistically watch videos now to figure out exactly how fighters do things and see if I can incorporate that. Why does this guy hit so hard, what is he doing that's different, why did this land, etc?

So yeah, it's fun to talk to someone about it.
None of my friends share the same taste in sports (besides MMA to a degree), and music (to a degree) as me, so the only real place I can talk about what sports I like is online. I get into it with music though, but it's mostly to hate on Metallica, or pop.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Nice to see Joshua winning, with Wilder ducking Joshua to fight Fury, the division becomes interesting. That finish was pretty brutal. Ref probably should have stopped it when he fell in the ropes.
Again pretty chinny though.

I kind of wish they would have just lined up against Joshua. I'd like to see both Wilder and Fury fight him before I give up on him being beaten within the next 5 years.
I'm sure Fury is lying, but he said he'd brawl with Wilder and I'm pretty sure Wilder will win if it comes down to Fury doing that type of shit.

Either way, I hope this does lead to a non delayed superfight.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
That sounds plausible I guess. I don't like how I've never thought about buying boxing biographies though. I've been sticking to music ones and you just opened a whole new realm for me.

I always liked boxing but until the last two years have I been hugely into it.
I autistically watch videos now to figure out exactly how fighters do things and see if I can incorporate that. Why does this guy hit so hard, what is he doing that's different, why did this land, etc?

So yeah, it's fun to talk to someone about it.
None of my friends share the same taste in sports (besides MMA to a degree), and music (to a degree) as me, so the only real place I can talk about what sports I like is online. I get into it with music though, but it's mostly to hate on Metallica, or pop. Tysons biography is where I got the stuff about the trainers daughter/Sister, I can't remember which it was now.

I love boxing my grandad took me at 11 to start learning but I really got into it about 14, then I found Muay Thai at College and spent six months after I finsihed in Thailand training.

I had a lot of amateur bouts and some paid in the UK and Thailand.You'd probably hate my music, I'm a big fan of people like the cure and the cultOriginally posted by One Big Mob
That finish was pretty brutal. Ref probably should have stopped it when he fell in the ropes.
Again pretty chinny though.

I kind of wish they would have just lined up against Joshua. I'd like to see both Wilder and Fury fight him before I give up on him being beaten within the next 5 years.
I'm sure Fury is lying, but he said he'd brawl with Wilder and I'm pretty sure Wilder will win if it comes down to Fury doing that type of shit.

Either way, I hope this does lead to a non delayed superfight. Agreed on all counts. I actually see Fury doing what he always does, spoiling, using his modified Philly Shell defence and stagnating the fight, tiring wilder with all his leaning and clinching tricks and winning on points with his jab. A man as big as Fury should not have his footwork, he is like a ballet dancing elephant.

Some really good sport biographies are clearly Tysons, there have been a few. A Rods. the doping stuff is hilarious and Greg Lamont the Cyclist.

A guy called Ian Botham who is **** but perhaps the greatest cricketer from the UK ever is awesome, fights with bouncers, cheating on his wife with a Miss World contestant on Coke... Hilarious stuff.

dur = Squall X

Originally posted by Putinbot1
A guy called Ian Botham who is **** but perhaps the greatest cricketer from the UK ever is awesome, fights with bouncers, cheating on his wife with a Miss World contestant on Coke... Hilarious stuff.


Didn't 'Beefy' also play football for Leicester City briefly? And he was Bill Beaumont's opponent on Question Of Sport.

Originally posted by samhain
Didn't 'Beefy' also play football for Leicester City briefly? And he was Bill Beaumont's opponent on Question Of Sport. Scunthorpe and Yeovil, Oxford maybe rings a bell. I don't remember Leicester but he may have turned out for them at some point.

And yeah, Robbie had been on the wane, sorry I missed that post somehow Sam.

He deffo did Question of Sport and all those charity walks. His son ended up playing Rugby professionally due to the Influence Beaumont had on him. Liam also played Cricket for Hampshire before his Rugby career where he played League for Hatlepool and Union for Cardif, Liam's son Jim is playing Rugby for Wales 7's under 18's. Viv Richards was Liam's godfather believe it or not. Ian Botham maybe a cunty ****, but you can't deny his genes.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
you can't deny his genes.


Yeah, some people just have that natural sports gene where they can do a bunch of things to a pretty professional standard. Used to hear that Alan Hansen's golf game was good enough for a pro.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Scunthorpe and Yeovil, Oxford maybe rings a bell. I don't remember Leicester but he may have turned out for them at some point.


Just Wikied it, no Leicester, just Yeovil & Scunthorpe. Remembered seeing a pic of him playing in a blue kit, must have been an away strip.

Originally posted by samhain
Yeah, some people just have that natural sports gene where they can do a bunch of things to a pretty professional standard. Used to hear that Alan Hansen's golf game was good enough for a pro. Yeah, heard that one, you as a Liverpool fan probably heard Michael Owen was really good at both boxing and Cricket as a kid and could have gone pro in Either. O'Driscoll the greatest imo Ireland Rugby Captain could have turned pro at Boxing too. Gary Linekar was a great Cricketer as a youth, that reckon he would have been a top bat and given his reflexes in the 5 yard box, I don't doubt it.

Originally posted by samhain
Just Wikied it, no Leicester, just Yeovil & Scunthorpe. Remembered seeing a pic of him playing in a blue kit, must have been an away strip. He was o e of those people who just had hand eye coordination and reflexes in a naturally powerful frame. All the levers fitted right.

Never heard about Michael Owen and boxing, interesting, I could see that though, quick with a deceptively stocky frame. Funny how people always assume smaller people wouldn't make decent boxers, as though boxing doesn't have weight divisions.

When he was on point, Roy Jones Jr. was invincible and almost the most technical and clever boxer of all time. Not the GOAT, though.

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He probably was, and his humiliating defeat by Joe Calzaghe at the end of his career takes nothing from him. He only took that fight for the money. Of all the technical greats, I will always prefer he, Leonard and Eubank over Mayweather and I include Eubank because until he gave Watson brain damage he had bizarre skill and technique. He was never the same after that and lost to Collins a man prior to Watson he would have frustrated and destroyed.

Roy Jones was probably the most talented boxer of all time. **** was he fast. Both his hand speed and foot speed were tremendous.

I'd put Loma up there too (for talent), though he uses his speed different than Roy. His is more of his technique, while Roy was just fast period. Technique, speed, power, stamina. Shame he became a shell of himself.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Roy Jones was probably the most talented boxer of all time. **** was he fast. Both his hand speed and foot speed were tremendous.

I'd put Loma up there too (for talent), though he uses his speed different than Roy. His is more of his technique, while Roy was just fast period. Technique, speed, power, stamina. Shame he became a shell of himself. Roy also kept his speed as he went up divisions. I will say though the best fight for me of all time was Leonard Vs Haggler. If you've never viewed it... but you probably have... do!

^Agreed. Haggler Vs. Hearns is also probably the best 3 round fight you'll ever see. You mentioned Eubank and Collins before, their rematch was pretty full on I seem to recall. If you haven't check out the first fight between Danny Williams and Matt Skelton, 12 rounds of 2 guys punching the hell out of each other until the last bell had rung, complete contrast to their appalling rematch a few years later.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Roy also kept his speed as he went up divisions. I will say though the best fight for me of all time was Leonard Vs Haggler. If you've never viewed it... but you probably have... do!
I'm a huge fan of Leonard. His speed and defense were brilliant, but the way he'd just brutally hammer of people was a thing of beauty. He could have easily fought defensively and won every fight, but he'd just get pissed and go nuts.
I still like to think he could have bodied Hagler had he never screwed his eye up and took 3 years off. Maybe not with how Hagler walked through his shots, but a man can dream.

Right now I think Foreman vs Lyle is my favorite. It had Howard continue to shit on Ken Norton, the 2 minute round, and the knockdowns. The way Foreman got up like nothing happened after looking like he got shot in the head was amazing. Then he gets rocked like 5 times the next round and still zombies out a win.
Not very technical at all but it was a good fight for me. I know Hagler/Hearns exists, but I'm partial to the Foreman one.

Originally posted by samhain
^Agreed. Haggler Vs. Hearns is also probably the best 3 round fight you'll ever see. You mentioned Eubank and Collins before, their rematch was pretty full on I seem to recall. If you haven't check out the first fight between Danny Williams and Matt Skelton, 12 rounds of 2 guys punching the hell out of each other until the last bell had rung, complete contrast to their appalling rematch a few years later. Have to check out the Williams vs Skelton fight. It sounds very familar, I just can't seem to think of it though. I'll probably check out the rematch too just for the hell of it. Is that at least a finish or 12 rounds of shit?

Went the distance I seem to remember, think both fighters were carrying injuries into the match and it shows.

What if instead of nuking each other we had a contest to see who could create the most powerful nuke and each country would have a year?! What country would win?!

@Sam and Bran, some fantastic choices. For me pound for pound Haggler may have had the hardest head of all time. A fight which was great but ended very sadly was Benn Vs McCall it was literally war. Benn, I vaguely know he used to DJ on the old Kent Rd as guest DJ about 93 and I spoke to him a few times as I was training at the Thomas abeckett gym. Henry Cooper had a gym on the old Kent Rd at the time as well. I was lucky enough to meet him in there also. Lovely man.

All the U.S should do is close up its borders and kick out all of OUR Illegals and let the Rest of the world turn into a Full on 3rd world Shit Hole...just like France is doing.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
All the U.S should do is close up its borders and kick out all of OUR Illegals and let the Rest of the world turn into a Full on 3rd world Shit Hole...just like France is doing. dur Fly=Full on retard.

I was expecting a sh_t throwing thread and was pleasingly surprised that you guys were discussing Boxing, the only frigging sport in the World I actually like watching.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
dur Fly=Full on retard.

Pootybutt=full on Triggered House Boy Raper.

Originally posted by Bentley
I was expecting a sh_t throwing thread and was pleasingly surprised that you guys were discussing Boxing, the only frigging sport in the World I actually like watching.


A bit of derailing is okay. And now Fly is trying to derail our derailing.

Originally posted by samhain
A bit of derailing is okay. And now Fly is trying to derail our derailing.

Yeah, but Fly is just a sad **** ignored by almost all, because they realise he creams his pants when people interact with him on any level. Missed your post about Owen. Yeah supposedly he was like a Mongoose.

@Bentley, Boxing like soccer/football's simplicity is what makes it awesome anyone can learn the 7 main punches in a couple of weeks, basic footwork in a month... but being good takes work.

Derail it enough and it might get back on track.

Aint that Right PootyButt!?

Originally posted by Flyattractor
Derail it enough and it might get back on track.

Aint that Right PootyButt!? dur

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Tysons biography is where I got the stuff about the trainers daughter/Sister, I can't remember which it was now. The trainer was Teddy Atlas. The girl was 11. Here is Teddys version of it.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CQHoZJPzGT0

Tyson has admitted Teddy pulled the gun on him and fired a warning shot. As far as the girl goes, over the years Tyson has both apologized to teddy, blamed himself for their beef and tried to make amends.

https://youtu.be/jB_fZ3FoNww

And also denied doing anything and blaming Teddy for their problems.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=z69P5CDF5so

So basically what u would expect from old Iron Mike.

Also its kind of hilarious how terrified the guy doing the interview was of tyson in that last clip. Its like there was no doubt in his mind that if he said the wrong thing to Tyson right there he would get his face punched clean off.

Ironically, Tyson probably only wanted to punch him in the face for being such a *****, as would anyone.

Originally posted by Raptor22
The trainer was Teddy Atlas. The girl was 11. Here is Teddys version of it.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CQHoZJPzGT0

Tyson has admitted Teddy pulled the gun on him and fired a warning shot. As far as the girl goes, over the years Tyson has both apologized to teddy, blamed himself for their beef and tried to make amends.

https://youtu.be/jB_fZ3FoNww

And also denied doing anything and blaming Teddy for their problems.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=z69P5CDF5so

So basically what u would expect from old Iron Mike.

Also its kind of hilarious how terrified the guy doing the interview was of tyson in that last clip. Its like there was no doubt in his mind that if he said the wrong thing to Tyson right there he would get his face punched clean off. That certainly is it. Thanks for clearing that up man. Tyson is a peice of shit.

His cartoon show is funny.