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Act like the left and try to shut people up with censorship or violence

No TI that's what Trump does. That or pay them off or slap a law suit on them using his millions.0

Originally posted by DarthPlaguis12
Act like the left and try to shut people up with censorship or violence

lol true.

I just open up a Adam Poe Thread...

Lol...and the video just had to be hosted by a transgender person

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
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A woman with a child.

That should be in the dictionary next to "fascist".

Originally posted by DarthPlaguis12
Act like the left and try to shut people up with censorship or violence

Antifa is the funniest example on the alt left, showing up to try to block people from attending an event merely because they disagree with their politics. But remember: they hate fascism!

But Antifa, you rightists are so triggered.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
But Antifa, you rightists are so triggered.

Yes how dare we point out the way people on the alt left behave.

Though it's kinda relevant given they cry about fascism.

If the KKK started to whine about people being racist towards them...the racist elephant in the room would need to be acknowledged.

Haha the Alt right kill. Apples and hypocrisy.

So, you can only be a fascist if you kill people?

Originally posted by Putinbot1
But Antifa, you rightists are so triggered.

Whenever someone attacks the Alt-Right's shitty and murderous ways certain people always jump in to the defense with deflection and whataboutary nonsense. What's that say bout them.

I found out this Vic poster is 14, Surt is grooming him to join the nut jobs.

If you stop a fascist from giving his fascist points of view, are you technically also a fascist for silencing him?

Originally posted by MythLord
If you stop a fascist from giving his fascist points of view, are you technically also a fascist for silencing him?

Probably. Also if you stop people who aren't actually fascists, but you label them fascists anyways cuz you disagree with him, from giving points of view...you're definitely a fascist.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Haha the Alt right kill. Apples and hypocrisy.

And yet people on the left are dumb enough to whine about fascism while kinda behaving like fascists.

Originally posted by Silent Master
So, you can only be a fascist if you kill people?

Basically the fascist tactics and hypocrisy from the left is okay as long as you just crack people in the skulls with bike locks and set shit on fire, but don't actually take a life. Sure you can behave in a way that 100% could lead to someone dying, but that's okay too.

Some guy called Hassan Piker destroyed Tucker Carson's white nationalist propaganda. Cool.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Some guy called Hassan Piker destroyed Tucker Carson's white nationalist propaganda. Cool.

Lmao Hassan Piker is a retarded SJW:

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Originally posted by Putinbot1
Some guy called Hassan Piker destroyed Tucker Carson's white nationalist propaganda. Cool.


I notice that you didn't cite your source, so allow me.

It's a Young Turks video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mJL6k8z6Kk

Originally posted by Silent Master
I notice that you didn't cite your source, so allow me.

It's a Young Turks video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mJL6k8z6Kk



Lol...well hey it's true then. Remember: they're f*cking better than you.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
I found out this Vic poster is 14, Surt is grooming him to join the nut jobs.

*Reported for Doxxing*

Originally posted by Surtur
Yes how dare we point out the way people on the alt left behave.

Though it's kinda relevant given they cry about fascism.

If the KKK started to whine about people being racist towards them...the racist elephant in the room would need to be acknowledged.


lol true. putinhisbutt and robturd's hypocrisy coming out hard in this thread.

I can tell from the replies that the very people who needed to watch this video did not.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I can tell from the replies that the very people who needed to watch this video did not.


Not only didn't they watch it, but just thinking about watching it pushed all their Alt-Right trigger buttons.

The guy in the video was too cringe for me, sorry.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I can tell from the replies that the very people who needed to watch this video did not.

I thought it was a parody.

At least, I hope it was.

Originally posted by Robtard
Not only didn't they watch it, but just thinking about watching it pushed all their Alt-Right trigger buttons.

The thing is, she pretty accurately describes all of them.

She does indeed

Originally posted by Surtur


Lol...well hey it's true then. Remember: they're f*cking better than you. He wrecked him, wow, so owned Carlson's white supremacy agenda. Young Turks are on Youtube therefore using your own reasoning far more reliable thean msm.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The thing is, she pretty accurately describes all of them.


She? You sure?

Plenty of guys cross dress without transitioning.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
She does indeed

Originally posted by cdtm
She? You sure?

Plenty of guys cross dress without transitioning.

Yeah. Looks Like Pootbutt aint up on his Gender Neutral Terminology.

SO Intolerant.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The thing is, she pretty accurately describes all of them.

Poe, who's the cartoon guy? Feel like I should recognize him.

Not Galtar.. Space He-Man? Didn't watch that growing up.

1. I'm sorry, but "western culture" is not a dog whistle. You can believe in the primacy of western culture, and not give two shits about someone's race. The idea that culture and race should be considered the same thing is ****ing ridiculous, it's how the SJWs argue that western culture is "whiteness" and that therefore if you criticize another culture that's racism, and it's how the alt-right claims the white race is superior by conflating white skin with western values.

2. Yeah... jewish conspiracy, that sounds pretty alt-right. Criticizing multiculturalism though is not a uniquely alt-right or racist or fascist belief though.

3. White Ethnostate, absolutely and irrefutably alt-right

(Also how early was this in Contrapoints's transition? She sounds/looks more masculine than in other videos of hers i've seen)

Luckily contrapoints didn't make the mistake of arguing race and culture and geography should be conflated.

Here's the thing though, you can get people who oppose modern social justice on the same grounds they oppose the alt-right, you can get people who care about the preservation of western culture without conflating culture with skin color. Being against multiculturalism is not the same thing as being against multiracialism.

I'm all for bashing the alt-right, I find their views reprehensible. But there is danger in mistaking someone who isn't authoritarian or racist for an alt-right fascist just because they're a civic nationalist or have an interest in the preservation of western values, or disagree with modern social justice activism.

In other words, contrapoints gave a solid description of the alt-right, but there will be people extend the definition she gave to accuse people of being alt-right who aren't alt-right, just because there are some similarities between their position and the alt-right's position, without taking into account the vast irreconcilable differences between that person and the alt-right.

Think western culture can absolutely be a dog whistle. It can also not be. But many white supremacists do use the term to mean little more than a culture largely dominated by white people with European heritage and not the potentially other more nuanced virtues you are alluding to.

Originally posted by BackFire
Think western culture can absolutely be a dog whistle. It can also not be. But many white supremacists do use the term to mean little more than a culture largely dominated by white people with European heritage and not the potentially other more nuanced virtues you are alluding to.
It can be, but using it to identify fascists is very imprecise.

It's a term that should be met with some suspicion at the least, depending on who is using it and what they mean by it.

Originally posted by BackFire
It's a term that should be met with some suspicion at the least, depending on who is using it and what they mean by it.

Agreed.

Unfortunately, I can't think of any examples of romanticism of western culture, for the sake of admiring western culture.

When the left does it, they always talk about the melting pot/salad bowl. You can have loyalty and love for, say, Italy, India, Russia, or whatever you identify with ethnically. And that makes America great, because here you can do that, and be American.

And yes, the right often means "whites". Or white European centric.



Who speaks of love for America, like one speaks for love of Italy, who isn't considered a racist? What form can "Our culture is better then yours" take, that won't be seen as racist?


Because other countries totally have that kind of loyalty. I roomed with an Indian in my school days, who passed emails back and forth to his friends about how great India was compared to Japan, or China, etc.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
I found out this Vic poster is 14, Surt is grooming him to join the nut jobs.

ewww creepy

Agreed, doxing people is creepy.

Are you saying reading a post where someone says they are 14 is dosing? You are becoming Flyattractor S and M.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Agreed, doxing people is creepy. Are you saying reading a post were someone says they are 14 is dosing? You are a Flyattracto sock?

Strange post didn't show so posted again and it appeared.

I never saw a post where he stated his age, I just saw the post where you gave out personal information.

telling someone's age is not doxxing, you pearl clutching phag.

Originally posted by cdtm
Poe, who's the cartoon guy? . . . Space He-Man?

https://i.giphy.com/26FPnsRww5DbqoPuM.gif

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
telling someone's age is not doxxing, you pearl clutching phag.

Yet Name Calling is Against the Rules.

Good thing it is only Enforced in Certain Cases!

Last I checked doxxing was the publishing of private or identifying information without consent. A person's age is both private information and information that could be used to identify them. Thus its release would in fact be doxxing.

However PB states that Vic actually posted the information himself first, if true and I have no reason to doubt him. then reposting the information is not doxxing.

The only fascists I've seen are the ones that call themselves "anti-fascists".

The extreme right wing are more or less a figment of the Left's imagination. The problems the Left fail to address and in fact make worse, will eventually bring about something close to what they fear, but at the moment, they are the problem and the reason why there could well be an extreme right wing.

I've never seen more emotionally unhinged people, and I used to walk through National Front demons, as a child. NF, btw, are those skin head, bomber jackets and Doc Martins wearing English nationalists.

They used to be fairly vocal, back in the early '80s, but even then, they represented a minority view.

Originally posted by janus77
The only fascists I've seen are the ones that call themselves "anti-fascists".

https://i.imgur.com/QADuNWl.gif

Originally posted by janus77
The only fascists I've seen are the ones that call themselves "anti-fascists".

The extreme right wing are more or less a figment of the Left's imagination. The problems the Left fail to address and in fact make worse, will eventually bring about something close to what they fear, but at the moment, they are the problem and the reason why there could well be an extreme right wing.

I've never seen more emotionally unhinged people, and I used to walk through National Front demons, as a child. NF, btw, are those skin head, bomber jackets and Doc Martins wearing English nationalists.

They used to be fairly vocal, back in the early '80s, but even then, they represented a minority view.
appreciate the insight

Originally posted by Emperordmb
appreciate the insight

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
https://i.imgur.com/QADuNWl.gif

Has none.

I have raised my voice against the alt-right numerous times, condemned them in no uncertain terms, talked about why I think their ideas are bullshit, and completely disavowed them.

I don't know why some people on here won't do the same with their political wing's own trash. Instead they react as if it's retarded to suggest there is a problem on their political wing, even after countless examples have been presented.

Because they don't WANT to solve the problems. They only care about Power and those Problems are helping them acquire it.

Hence Bashy's response.

gaslighting makes you feel clever? have fun feeling clever.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
gaslighting makes you feel clever? have fun feeling clever.

Says the guy who posted THIS...

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
https://i.imgur.com/QADuNWl.gif

time for your methadone?

Time for you check for gas before turning on anymore lights?

Originally posted by Flyattractor
Time for you check for gas before turning on anymore lights? dur

PootyButt knows all about that type of gas.

The thing that pisses me off about the modern Left is just how utterly bereft of reason they are.

The Left went from protecting the rights and interest of the Working Classes to wanting to destroy them.

They went from wanting *protectionism*, tariffs, taxes and quotas on imports in order to *protect* the national labour market and stop wages from falling/having to compete globally. To wanting to destroy the nation and embrace extreme globalism. Regulating the world, harmonising taxes and basically destroying the ability of a nation to plan its economy for the people in that nation.

Back in the late '90s we had Leftists supporting anti-globalisation, supporting Jose Bove as he campaigned (and caused property damage) against American corporate "food" in the form of McDonalds.

Now they are in lock-step with the corporations, they want to destroy borders and seek to import people so as to accelerate the process of globalisation.

They have no regard for the economic welfare of the ordinary working class and in fact play up bullshit "racism!" as a means of running a sort of low intensity war on them.

They declare that the native populations of Britain, Germany, etc. have no authentic culture. That European nations are "oppressors" and that they have no right to self-preservation.

And in doing so, they help promote the economic growth of large American globalist corporations. The very *enemy* of Europe 2 decades back.

It's no surprise that the largest corporations in the world today are, basically, brands. Substance free, abstract, "values" propositions. All about making their consumers *feel* good about themselves and their *status* relative to other people.

This is precisely the nature of Left wing "politics" today. It has no workable or even interesting "solutions" for the actually important business of governing a nation, but instead seeks to twiddle the nobs on various peripheral issues - race, immigration, demographic representation - and in the process brings them to such prominence in society, that they negatively impact upon the functioning of society.

Back in the '70s and '80s, the biggest corporations would have been Exxon and GM or other industrial corporations. Their products being necessary for the function of the economy, in providing energy and transportation, allowing people to work and innovate.

Now that economic phase is dead, people are basically producing nothing of any inherent value, instead they've abstracted out the very concept of value and decided to trade it directly.

You buy Starbucks coffee, you are engaging in socially significant action. You are sending a message.

You buy Apple products, again you are sending a message.

And of course, the entire reason for Social Media to exist is for vacuous people to sell themselves as brands (and now you have Youtube influencers basically proving just how successful this can be).

The message the corporate powers chose to sell? Well, it has to be acceptable to the broadest amount of people, it has to appeal to the youth and it has to be "edgy" (stand out).

Hence their use of "marginal" identities and their promotion of stupid shit. And this is also precisely the home ground of the modern Left. And so, they fit together very well, the vacuous corporate values peddlers and the vacuous self-indulgent consumer "political activist". The "activist" buys the corporation's bullshit and the corporation buys the "activists" raison d'etre.

Originally posted by janus77
The thing that pisses me off about the modern Left is just how utterly bereft of reason they are.

The Left went from protecting the rights and interest of the Working Classes to wanting to destroy them.

They went from wanting *protectionism*, tariffs, taxes and quotas on imports in order to *protect* the national labour market and stop wages from falling/having to compete globally. To wanting to destroy the nation and embrace extreme globalism. Regulating the world, harmonising taxes and basically destroying the ability of a nation to plan its economy for the people in that nation.

Back in the late '90s we had Leftists supporting anti-globalisation, supporting Jose Bove as he campaigned (and caused property damage) against American corporate "food" in the form of McDonalds.

Now they are in lock-step with the corporations, they want to destroy borders and seek to import people so as to accelerate the process of globalisation.

They have no regard for the economic welfare of the ordinary working class and in fact play up bullshit "racism!" as a means of running a sort of low intensity war on them.

They declare that the native populations of Britain, Germany, etc. have no authentic culture. That European nations are "oppressors" and that they have no right to self-preservation.

And in doing so, they help promote the economic growth of large American globalist corporations. The very *enemy* of Europe 2 decades back.

It's no surprise that the largest corporations in the world today are, basically, brands. Substance free, abstract, "values" propositions. All about making their consumers *feel* good about themselves and their *status* relative to other people.

This is precisely the nature of Left wing "politics" today. It has no workable or even interesting "solutions" for the actually important business of governing a nation, but instead seeks to twiddle the nobs on various peripheral issues - race, immigration, demographic representation - and in the process brings them to such prominence in society, that they negatively impact upon the functioning of society.

Back in the '70s and '80s, the biggest corporations would have been Exxon and GM or other industrial corporations. Their products being necessary for the function of the economy, in providing energy and transportation, allowing people to work and innovate.

Now that economic phase is dead, people are basically producing nothing of any inherent value, instead they've abstracted out the very concept of value and decided to trade it directly.

You buy Starbucks coffee, you are engaging in socially significant action. You are sending a message.

You buy Apple products, again you are sending a message.

And of course, the entire reason for Social Media to exist is for vacuous people to sell themselves as brands (and now you have Youtube influencers basically proving just how successful this can be).

The message the corporate powers chose to sell? Well, it has to be acceptable to the broadest amount of people, it has to appeal to the youth and it has to be "edgy" (stand out).

Hence their use of "marginal" identities and their promotion of stupid shit. And this is also precisely the home ground of the modern Left. And so, they fit together very well, the vacuous corporate values peddlers and the vacuous self-indulgent consumer "political activist". The "activist" buys the corporation's bullshit and the corporation buys the "activists" raison d'etre.

This needs it's own thread, and to be pinned.

Originally posted by janus77
The extreme right wing are more or less a figment of the Left's imagination.

Yeah, hundreds of Neo Nazis chanting "Jews will not replace us," are a figment of imagination.

https://i.imgur.com/M0ClMpx.gif

**** you, trash.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
appreciate the insight

And **** you for cosigning his bullshit.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Yeah, hundreds of Neo Nazis chanting "Jews will not replace us," are a figment of imagination.

https://i.imgur.com/M0ClMpx.gif

**** you, trash.

Well I am convinced just on the proof of that jerky edited meme alone.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Yeah, hundreds of Neo Nazis chanting "Jews will not replace us," are a figment of imagination.

https://i.imgur.com/M0ClMpx.gif

**** you, trash.

Of course they exist.

Doesn't mean they represent the right, any more then your lefty loony hippie commie professor represents the left (No matter what Fly says. :up

The term "Alt-right" is used like the term "communist": To discredit otherwise reasonable opposition.

Hippies is the Cwaziest of People!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Yeah, hundreds of Neo Nazis chanting "Jews will not replace us," are a figment of imagination.

https://i.imgur.com/M0ClMpx.gif

**** you, trash.
Do you ever hear the Left claim "there are HUNDREDS of Nazis!"?
No, they claim these are significant phenomena within society. Like members of a large but marginal political party.

The Left claim anyone on The Right is basically a Nazi or Nazi sympathiser. They do this not because they believe it or care about such a possibility, but because it is the only trick they have for pulling in the punters. They have no economic or philosophical proposition to put forward, instead it's all fear and fluff.

I'm not a Right winger, I'm an agnostic and I'm far too liberal on the personal level to feel ok with the conservatism but I absolutely detest the emotionalism (irrational and unhinged for the most part), fakeness and self-indulgence that is the bulk of Left wing politics.

If only they were as few in number as the phantom Nazi danger that they keep spamming us with.

Originally posted by cdtm
This needs it's own thread, and to be pinned.
Thanks, been bottling up my thoughts on all the chaos going around ...

The best way to recognize a fascist is for a rabid leftist to look in a mirror.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
And **** you for cosigning his bullshit.

Lol f*cking triggered.

Triggered with BULLSHIT!

Does Adam realize that he's basically proving janus' point?

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Yeah, hundreds of Neo Nazis chanting "Jews will not replace us," are a figment of imagination.

https://i.imgur.com/M0ClMpx.gif

**** you, trash.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
And **** you for cosigning his bullshit.

Surtur and fly are so out of their minds it is pretty obvious this kind of nonsense is what gives them purpose. Losers.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Yeah, hundreds of Neo Nazis chanting "Jews will not replace us," are a figment of imagination.

https://i.imgur.com/M0ClMpx.gif

**** you, trash.

Well shit congratulations for finally bringing forth the (let's be generous the 15k) neo nazi's in our nation of 320 million.

Way to move the goalpost. Adam never said the Alt-Right/Far-Right are the majority of Rightists, he merely says they exist and pose a problem. He's correct in that assertion so now it just seems like y'all are backpedaling.

Originally posted by MythLord
Way to move the goalpost. Adam never said the Alt-Right/Far-Right are the majority of Rightists, he merely says they exist and pose a problem. He's correct in that assertion so now it just seems like y'all are backpedaling.
No, the goalposts were moved by him, in his implicit misreading of my comment.

Read the part of my comment that he quotes, when posting the above gif. I acknowledge that there might be *some* far right extremists (saying "more or less", softening and qualifying the sentence).

He takes this as an assertion that there are absolutely ZERO far right extremists and so posts up the gif and comments on "hundreds" of Nazis.

As I said above, the Left scare-monger and bullshit about how much of a "threat" the extreme far right is, pretending that it is like some sort of major political movement. The Left explicitly call anyone on The Right a Nazi or a Nazi sympathiser. They muddy the waters and practice staggering levels of exaggeration so as to pump out their rhetoric of "end White people" and other absurdities. These positions would be nakedly racist and absurd but for the rhetorical landscape that they create, of impending Nazi holocaust from everywhere.

The Nazi threat IS more or less a figment of The Left's imagining. And the ONLY SCENARIO in which there could even possibly be a vast Nazi uprising, is if the Left's hostile and racist rhetoric and behaviour is allowed to go unchallenged and take it's violent course further and further in to suppressing opposition.

The Left ARE FASCIST at present. It is a long tradition of Leftists to be fascistic, violence and property damage is wholly consistent with their notions of "fighting the good fight". Their delusions need to be challenged both to prevent a genuine far right threat AND to save liberal societies in The West from their cancerous political impact.

Originally posted by janus77
No, the goalposts were moved by him, in his implicit misreading of my comment.

Read the part of my comment that he quotes, when posting the above gif. I acknowledge that there might be *some* far right extremists (saying "more or less", softening and qualifying the sentence).

He takes this as an assertion that there are absolutely ZERO far right extremists and so posts up the gif and comments on "hundreds" of Nazis.

As I said above, the Left scare-monger and bullshit about how much of a "threat" the extreme far right is, pretending that it is like some sort of major political movement. The Left explicitly call anyone on The Right a Nazi or a Nazi sympathiser. They muddy the waters and practice staggering levels of exaggeration so as to pump out their rhetoric of "end White people" and other absurdities. These positions would be nakedly racist and absurd but for the rhetorical landscape that they create, of impending Nazi holocaust from everywhere.

The Nazi threat IS more or less a figment of The Left's imagining. And the ONLY SCENARIO in which there could even possibly be a vast Nazi uprising, is if the Left's hostile and racist rhetoric and behaviour is allowed to go unchallenged and take it's violent course further and further in to suppressing opposition.

The Left ARE FASCIST at present. It is a long tradition of Leftists to be fascistic, violence and property damage is wholly consistent with their notions of "fighting the good fight". Their delusions need to be challenged both to prevent a genuine far right threat AND to save liberal societies in The West from their cancerous political impact. A lot on the right are Nazi's. But I'm prepared to be open, and believe you aren't.

Tell me, do you believe anyone should face prejudice due to Race or Religion?

Originally posted by Putinbot1
A lot on the right are Nazi's. But I'm prepared to be open, and believe you aren't.

Tell me, do you believe anyone should face prejudice due to Race or Religion?

That is precisely the emotional, anti-factual, hyperbolic behaviour that I am pointing out.


You go ahead and believe that they are Nazis, I'm sure you really, really do believe that to be the case.

Unlike the modern Left, my beliefs are not something I wish to use for virtue signalling.

And as I said in my initial post, it is peripheral crap like "racism" or "bigotry", that is ALL that The Left have to differentiate themselves from the Establishment.

They know that serious politics is not going to work, as very few people will buy into the suicidal economics of Socialism and there is even less appetite for Communism. So how does the Left bring in the punters? It tells the "minorities" that they're being oppressed, that white people are evil racists and that explains all the trouble and pain they've ever experienced in their lives.

It also convinces a bunch of vain and naive white youths that they can be the saviours of humanity, if they help to destroy "white privilege" and "empower" the coloured people.

This nonsense distracts for sorting out the economy, from adequately providing societal protections against the extremes of economic volatility and encourages the majority - native - population to feel threatened, hated and scared. Not a good situation to have.

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Originally posted by janus77
That is precisely the emotional, anti-factual, hyperbolic behaviour that I am pointing out.


You go ahead and believe that they are Nazis, I'm sure you really, really do believe that to be the case.

Unlike the modern Left, my beliefs are not something I wish to use for virtue signalling.

And as I said in my initial post, it is peripheral crap like "racism" or "bigotry", that is ALL that The Left have to differentiate themselves from the Establishment.

They know that serious politics is not going to work, as very few people will buy into the suicidal economics of Socialism and there is even less appetite for Communism. So how does the Left bring in the punters? It tells the "minorities" that they're being oppressed, that white people are evil racists and that explains all the trouble and pain they've ever experienced in their lives.

It also convinces a bunch of vain and naive white youths that they can be the saviours of humanity, if they help to destroy "white privilege" and "empower" the coloured people.

This nonsense distracts for sorting out the economy, from adequately providing societal protections against the extremes of economic volatility and encourages the majority - native - population to feel threatened, hated and scared. Not a good situation to have. What's anti factual, I provided an observation and a question. No Facts.

Do you believe everyone should be treated equally regardless of race and religion?

Are you going to answer it?

Originally posted by Putinbot1
A lot on the right are Nazi's. But I'm prepared to be open, and believe you aren't.

Tell me, do you believe anyone should face prejudice due to Race or Religion?

It's a two party system, Putinbot1. You'll get a lot of the worst, along with the rest.

If there were more viable options, this could be a valid criticism. But the fact is, there really isn't anywhere to go but left or right.

Originally posted by cdtm
It's a two party system, Putinbot1. You'll get a lot of the worst, along with the rest.

If there were more viable options, this could be a valid criticism. But the fact is, there really isn't anywhere to go but left or right.

cdtm, you are one of the few reasonable rightists here, I don't believe you are racist.

However, let him answer.

If you want me to answer:

Race? No, I don't give a **** about anyone's race and neither should our legal structure.

Religion? Entirely depends on the values and moral principles they derive from their interpretation of their religion. If they are in this country they should still be held to the same legal standard regardless, immigration policy should have some ideological screening involved, and people within a society should criticize the values of other people.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
What's anti factual, I provided an observation and a question. No Facts.

Do you believe everyone should be treated equally regardless of race and religion?

Are you going to answer it?
What's anti-factual about calling "a lot of the Right", Nazis?

Nazi was an actual political movement that we can all read about, tell me what exactly makes "a lot of" The Right Nazis?

You're indulging in emotional hyperbole and blindly labelling them the worst thing you can imagine calling someone, rather than actually tackling their views. Is that not at all worrying?

Aside from your right on racial views, what do you think you have of value, to the political debate? What effective foreign policies, what economic and fiscal policies, what do you do about crime and poverty, how do you budget things ...

There are thousands of *more* important and vital questions, your personal views about race and religion are not really politically important. They're just personal.

Originally posted by janus77
The only fascists I've seen are the ones that call themselves "anti-fascists".

The extreme right wing are more or less a figment of the Left's imagination. The problems the Left fail to address and in fact make worse, will eventually bring about something close to what they fear, but at the moment, they are the problem and the reason why there could well be an extreme right wing.

I've never seen more emotionally unhinged people, and I used to walk through National Front demons, as a child. NF, btw, are those skin head, bomber jackets and Doc Martins wearing English nationalists.

They used to be fairly vocal, back in the early '80s, but even then, they represented a minority view.

The Alt-Right, Neo Nazis and other White Supremacist are real, they certainly exist in America, are organized and have a political agenda. I sincerely hope you're just trying to gaslight here and are not actually convinced of what you say.

A lot of the right, are definitely fascists, as Rob lists Janus. It's factual. Perhaps I should have used Neo Nazi rather than Nazi as clearly they don't belong to the Nazi Party, just share similar values, although most people just refer to Neo Nazis's as Nazis why should I play semantics.

Originally posted by Robtard
The Alt-Right, Neo Nazis and other White Supremacist are real, they certainly exist in America, are organized and have a political agenda. I sincerely hope you're just trying to gaslight here and are not actually convinced of what you say.

The better question is do you believe they are in significant numbers and driving current policy in washington dc?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
If you want me to answer:

Race? No, I don't give a **** about anyone's race and neither should our legal structure.

Religion? Entirely depends on the values and moral principles they derive from their interpretation of their religion. If they are in this country they should still be held to the same legal standard regardless, immigration policy should have some ideological screening involved, and people within a society should criticize the values of other people.

So you believe in being the thought Police even if someones religion is different and they follow the rules of your Society, if they have different morals regardless of if they act upon them they should be treated differently... That's kind of Fascist.

Originally posted by Robtard
The Alt-Right, Neo Nazis and other White Supremacist are real, they certainly exist in America, are organized and have a political agenda. I sincerely hope you're just trying to gaslight here and are not actually convinced of what you say.
People who believe in polyamory also exist on the Left, doesn't mean the Left is poly-amorous. You're taking small movements and exploding them out of all proportion for political grandstanding.

It's like calling The Left Commies; Though there are structurally influential Communists in The Left, it still isn't right to call them all Commies.


Also, having a political agenda is not the same thing as having genuine political influence or even a significant political platform. They are not a factor in The US or The UK, other than as a scare tactic by The Left.

So now it's been moved to 'they're imaginary' to 'they exist but are irrelevant'? Do I have this down correctly?

Originally posted by Putinbot1
A lot of the right, are definitely fascists, as Rob lists Janus. It's factual.
No, Rob is as mistaken as you are. Simply asserting "a lot", does not make it so.

You need actual evidence that these are nothing more than fringe groups.

Originally posted by Robtard
So now it's been moved to 'they're imaginary' to 'they exist but are irrelevant'? Do I have this down correctly?
It's "moved to"?

Read what I wrote, I said that the whole Nazi thing is *more or less* a figment of the Left's imagination.

It is nowhere near as significant as your rhetoric posits and the rhetoric exists to validate The Left's own emotional extremist positions.

My position hasn't shifted, it is your comprehension that has changed.

Alot of the left are definitely communist authoritarians, it's factual (no need to provide supporting data.)

Originally posted by snowdragon
The better question is do you believe they are in significant numbers and driving current policy in washington dc? It's not a better question, it's a different question.

Originally posted by snowdragon
Alot of the left are definitely communist authoritarians, it's factual (no need to provide supporting data.)

Not really as the left don't label themselves that or have those labels attributed to them by anyone credible, the Alt right, white supremacists and Neo Nazi's do.

Originally posted by janus77
It's "moved to"?

Read what I wrote, I said that the whole Nazi thing is *more or less* a figment of the Left's imagination.

It is nowhere near as significant as your rhetoric posits and the rhetoric exists to validate The Left's own emotional extremist positions.

My position hasn't shifted, it is your comprehension that has changed.

I asked the question for clarification, so calm thyself.

Disagreed. Look how emboldened they where during the 2016 election, shows they're a prominent force, you're also not taking into account the fringe supporters of these groups, the people who won't march with them and chant hatred openly, but will find solidarity to their cause behind closed doors.

By your own reasoning, if they're politically insignificant, than so are these "Leftist" you're clamoring on about.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
It's not a better question, it's a different question.

You would be mistaken, if there is a minority of the US that is unified inder Alt-Right/NeoNazis but have no political influence then its easy to cull that group.

When they establish themselves in Washington their influence is more pronounced and now can set policy and law.

It is a better question, you're welcome

Originally posted by Putinbot1
So you believe in being the thought Police even if someones religion is different and they follow the rules of your Society, if they have different morals regardless of if they act upon them they should be treated differently... That's kind of Fascist.
I just said they should be held to the same legal standard as everyone else in this country.

Originally posted by Robtard
I asked the question for clarification, so calm thyself.

Disagreed. Look how emboldened they where during the 2016 election, shows they're a prominent force, you're also not taking into account the fringe supporters of these groups, the people who won't march with them and chant hatred openly, but will find solidarity to their cause behind closed doors.

By your own reasoning, if they're insignificant, than so are these "Leftist" you're clamoring on about. Well Leftists are insignificant they don't tend to be pro firearms etc. Janus is from the U.K. how many leftists have killed Politicians for ideology mate?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I just said they should be held to the same legal standard as everyone else in this country. Well not exactly but if that's what you mean fine, then you agree with equality.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Not really as the left don't label themselves that or have those labels attributed to them by anyone credible, the Alt right, white supremacists and Neo Nazi's do.

Oh boy, Antifa is the brown shirt communist of the left and that's just literally pointing out a fact rather then playing down a reality you want to believe in.

Then again the label Alt Right is painted like the star of david on folks on the right without logic but feefees.

Originally posted by snowdragon
Oh boy, Antifa is the brown shirt communist of the left and that's just literally pointing out a fact rather then playing down a reality you want to believe in.

Then again the label Alt Right is painted like the star of david on folks on the right without logic but feefees. As I always say when they start shooting and bombing and killing, then they are the same threat level as the Neo Nazi's till then, they are not.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Well not exactly but if that's what you mean fine, then you agree with equality.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
If they are in this country they should still be held to the same legal standard regardless,

The only distinctions I made were that immigration policy should be conscious of someone's cultural values and whether or not they're compatible with the society they're trying to immigrate into. And that people in a society should be free to criticize each other's values.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
The only distinctions I made were that immigration policy should be conscious of someone's cultural values and whether or not they're compatible with the society they're trying to immigrate into. And that people in a society should be free to criticize each other's values.

If someone says they will follow the rules then they should be taken on face value regardless, most Muslims in the US follow the rules and your Universities like my own can't get enough of the Saudi buck. Bin Laden was hardly a poor Muslim.

Well if someone thinks women should be treated like second class citizens or thinks people should ideally be killed if they speak ill of Muhammad, then I'm gonna feel a lot sketchier about extending the privilege of entering my country to them because I'm interested in preserving the values of my country.

It would be the same thing if someone who wanted a white ethnostate wanted to immigrate to the US and promised they'd follow all of the rules, I still think the immigration policy should be more hesitant to allow such a person in.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
As I always say when they start shooting and bombing and killing, then they are the same threat level as the Neo Nazi's till then, they are not.

How about in the UK, where do all the knifers and acid splashers fall in your view of the political spectrum.

I wonder how people would react if you use the same arguments for groups other than the American right. Let's see, just by changing a couple of words. we would get a statement like this.



Would the people arguing about how a lot of people on the right are Nazis also agree with the quoted statement?

Who has denied that extreme Islamist are not a problem? They are, they kill people and push a political agendas depending on said groups? eg Obviously there are non ISIS members who support ISIS' cause.

I understand you were trying to be clever with another "gotcha!" type of post, but all you did is support the opposite.

A Little bit of Robbie's inner Loony Lefty just died a little.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Would the people arguing about how a lot of people on the right are Nazis also agree with the quoted statement?

I don't think there is any group that is as overtly aggressive as the neo-nazi when they are organized in the US.

I could be wrong it just seems as though at the grassroots the extreme right takes the cake.

mmmmNo. You are Pretty WRONG.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
mmmmNo. You are Pretty WRONG.

Ok I said it seems so I could be wrong, support your position.

Thanks to rob for being constant and agreeing that saying a lot of Muslims are terrorists is just as fair a statement as saying a lot on the right are Nazis.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thanks to rob for being constant and agreeing that saying a lot of Muslims are terrorists is just as fair a statement as saying a lot on the right are Nazis.

AntiFa has show they they are Extremely Organized and Well Funded.
And also Extremely Violent in which videos have shown groups of them all but planning Out Right Murder on People and Groups.

Originally posted by snowdragon
I don't think there is any group that is as overtly aggressive as the neo-nazi when they are organized in the US.

I could be wrong it just seems as though at the grassroots the extreme right takes the cake.

I'm not talking about just America and extreme Islamists are far more overtly aggressive when organized. if you don't believe me. go visit a country like Afghanistan or Syria and publicly speak out about anything they disagree with.

BTW, don't actually do that. you'll be killed.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thanks to rob for being constant and agreeing that saying a lot of Muslims are terrorists is just as fair a statement as saying a lot on the right are Nazis.

You're spinning what I said into something else now, my comment wasn't on either's prominence. Seems you're doing your 'Time-Waster-Troll' thing again and I'm just not interested, so have the last word/spin.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
AntiFa has show they they are Extremely Organized and Well Funded.
And also Extremely Violent in which videos have shown groups of them all but planning Out Right Murder on People and Groups.

True, but to be fair. the extreme Alt-right is currently more violent than they are.

Originally posted by Robtard
I asked the question for clarification, so calm thyself.

Disagreed. Look how emboldened they where during the 2016 election, shows they're a prominent force, you're also not taking into account the fringe supporters of these groups, the people who won't march with them and chant hatred openly, but will find solidarity to their cause behind closed doors.

By your own reasoning, if they're politically insignificant, than so are these "Leftist" you're clamoring on about.
How emboldened who were? The violent Leftists that hit (and still hit) people for wearing hats or voting for Trump?

There were (and are) lots of them, and they are institutionally supported by The Democratic party (Maxine Waters' call for harassing people being just one example).

The far right extremists are a legitimate fringe group and they do not have political influence in any significant sense.

You can only produce a seeming comparison by wildly labelling people on the right or just Trump supporters (some Bernie supporters voted for Trump because they could never bring themselves to vote for Hillary Clinton) as if they are the same as the extreme far right.

Please read what I said closely, I was comparing the nominal "Nazis" (who aren't actual Nazis but some weird racial supremacist group LARPING as Nazis) of the extreme far right with the larger but still not dominant Communist element within the Left.

The Communists are more significant, there are political elements of The Democratic party that patronise these people but, the more dangerous and the more legitimised parts of The Left are the SJW/values/virtue signallers who operate on a dangerously unhinged rhetorical landscape of "Nazis!" and "Fascists!" and create the environment for and even help to stoke violence against people who do not support The Left mainstream.

In my original post I repeatedly made clear that it is the values/virtue signalling Leftists who censor, intimidate and encourage violence in mainstream politics and society, that are destroying society and need to be challenged.

This is my very argument.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm not talking about just America and extreme Islamists are far more overtly aggressive when organized. if you don't believe me. go visit a country like Afghanistan or Syria and publicly speak out about anything they disagree with.

BTW, don't actually do that. you'll be killed.

Sure but I thought we were talking about groups in the USA and even UK.

Originally posted by snowdragon
Sure but I thought we were talking about groups in the USA and even UK.

I was talking about groups in general, but if we are just going with America. then yes. the extreme Alt-right might very well be the most violent when in large groups.

Originally posted by janus77
How emboldened who were? The violent Leftists that hit (and still hit) people for wearing hats or voting for Trump?

There were (and are) lots of them, and they are institutionally supported by The Democratic party (Maxine Waters' call for harassing people being just one example).

The far right extremists are a legitimate fringe group and they do not have political influence in any significant sense.

You can only produce a seeming comparison by wildly labelling people on the right or just Trump supporters (some Bernie supporters voted for Trump because they could never bring themselves to vote for Hillary Clinton) as if they are the same as the extreme far right.

Please read what I said closely, I was comparing the nominal "Nazis" (who aren't actual Nazis but some weird racial supremacist group LARPING as Nazis) of the extreme far right with the larger but still not dominant Communist element within the Left.

The Communists are more significant, there are political elements of The Democratic party that patronise these people but, the more dangerous and the more legitimised parts of The Left are the SJW/values/virtue signallers who operate on a dangerously unhinged rhetorical landscape of "Nazis!" and "Fascists!" and create the environment for and even help to stoke violence against people who do not support The Left mainstream.

In my original post I repeatedly made clear that it is the values/virtue signalling Leftists who censor, intimidate and encourage violence in mainstream politics and society, that are destroying society and need to be challenged.

This is my very argument.

Emboldened enough to outright murder a person and harm many more. Is that not enough?

Oh, if that counts as "political support", then clearly you must count Trump's support as well. So I raise you a Presidential nominee/President over a Representative. Trump telling his lunatics to punch people and he'll cover their legal expenses. That's a bit more extreme than "get in their faces", which is to challenged them and their beliefs; not assault people. Waters didn't call for physical violence.

I have no problem with any extremist Left or Right being challenged and opposed, but you seem to be so ridiculously one-sided.

I'm not even going to entertain this thread beyond this post, so take it as you will.

I think the correct wording should be "A lot of Islamic Extremists are Muslim" as opposed to "A lot of Muslims are Islamic Extremists". i know for a fact that the vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists or extremists.

That being said, this also holds true for right wingers. Not everyone on the right is Alt-Right/Far Right, or Neo Nazi. Most people ARE reasonable enough to allow coexistance and diplomacy to work (otherwise the US would have tore itself apart in far more civil wars than the one they had.) I myself am a centrist, as I do not believe one view should hold sway over others, each side has it's strong and it's weak points. I dislike everything about the SJW culture that has literally bombarded everything I enjoy with pointless and artificial "equality values" where they do not belong. At the same time, I see no value at all in being an asshat to people who are different, for being different and no other reason. If a person does the crime, they should do the time for that crime alone, not because they were born a different skin color.

In other words, everyone should get a fair and equal go.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I'm not even going to entertain this thread beyond this post, so take it as you will.

I think the correct wording should be "A lot of Islamic Extremists are Muslim" as opposed to "A lot of Muslims are Islamic Extremists". i know for a fact that the vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists or extremists.

That being said, this also holds true for right wingers. Not everyone on the right is Alt-Right/Far Right, or Neo Nazi. Most people ARE reasonable enough to allow coexistance and diplomacy to work (otherwise the US would have tore itself apart in far more civil wars than the one they had.) I myself am a centrist, as I do not believe one view should hold sway over others, each side has it's strong and it's weak points. I dislike everything about the SJW culture that has literally bombarded everything I enjoy with pointless and artificial "equality values" where they do not belong. At the same time, I see no value at all in being an asshat to people who are different, for being different and no other reason. If a person does the crime, they should do the time for that crime alone, not because they were born a different skin color.

In other words, everyone should get a fair and equal go.


Agreed.

The cherry on the top of this sundae of a topic is the fact some people were able to get an academic journal to publish portions of Mein Kampf rewritten as a feminist manifesto. Lol.

Leftism is the New Fascism!!!!!!

Lol the best parts are the clips of them laughing as their papers get published:

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"Our Struggle is My Struggle: Solidarity Feminism as an Intersectional Reply to Neoliberal and Choice"

Originally posted by Surtur
"Our Struggle is My Struggle: Solidarity Feminism as an Intersectional Reply to Neoliberal and Choice"



When emotions run high, fairness runs low.

Since we were talking about groups and violence and their damage I wonder where things like the 92 la riots, 2014-15 ferguson riots and 2015 baltimore riots fall?

Those were extreme responses to unchecked police violence/corruption, especially in 92; that had been brewing for a very long time.

Originally posted by snowdragon
When emotions run high, fairness runs low.

Since we were talking about groups and violence and their damage I wonder where things like the 92 la riots, 2014-15 ferguson riots and 2015 baltimore riots fall?

Speaking of riots I'm super glad they found that cop guilty so this city wasn't burned down. Lets just execute him and get it over with.

I would also note that dog parks are in fact not a part of rape culture and I feel like you'd have to be up all night doing some kind of cocaine/glue huffing combo to buy into that.

These scientists need to just stick to LSD.

Sorry to hear about Your Upcoming Banning Surt.

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Banning? For what?

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Banning? For what?

People get so happy when a blood magic ritual goes right but when it goes wrong they just wanna blame others.

Originally posted by Surtur
People get so happy when a blood magic ritual goes right but when it goes wrong they just wanna blame others.

Ok?

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Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Banning? For what?

Oh I am sure the will have no problem making something up.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
Oh I am sure the will have no problem making something up. Paranoid much?

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Ok?

https://bodyhacks.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/l.jpg

I didn't even mention blood magic you weirdo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Paranoid much?

Angry Baby Much?

Originally posted by Flyattractor
Angry Baby Much? You are so triggered around the entire forum. Love it.

Angry Baby Very Much.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
Angry Baby Very Much. Are you shaking right now?

Only with laughter.

Originally posted by Surtur
I didn't even mention blood magic you weirdo.

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Originally posted by Flyattractor
Only with laughter. Such self hatred you have.