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The goal here is to find the same number of Magic users to defeat DCs best. Let's exclude Spectre from this because I dont want to go that high up. What team can you gather that could beat DC universe best? Since Spectre is excluded, pets stay within the same number of people as shown in the scan (minus him).

Go!!!

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Maybe add Loki in for one of those, but otherwise...

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How would you match them?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
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Maybe add Loki in for one of those, but otherwise...

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Lol at the hood. Such a scrub

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
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Maybe add Loki in for one of those, but otherwise...

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I don't know who that is. Prob some nobody

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I don't know who that is. Prob some nobody

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Originally posted by carver9
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/39437468/DC_Nation_2018-_005-017.jpg.html

The goal here is to find the same number of Magic users to defeat DCs best. Let's exclude Spectre from this because I dont want to go that high up. What team can you gather that could beat DC universe best? Since Spectre is excluded, pets stay within the same number of people as shown in the scan (minus him).

Go!!!

DC mystics >> Marvel's. That list is kinda bogus. They left out Tim Hunter, Hectate, Nabu, etc...

Here are some others that are more uber than the list DC Nation provided. None of these are really Spectre level, but they're trans:

Gwydion
https://i.imgur.com/CF7fTQj.jpg

Madame Xanadu
https://i.imgur.com/Xmd4lt3.jpg

Felix Faust
https://i.imgur.com/3GeE37l.jpg

Tracie 13
https://i.imgur.com/S74rrGJ.jpg

Doctor Gotham
https://i.imgur.com/T7OsddF.jpg

Black Alice
https://i.imgur.com/zI0JHXQ.png

Mister E
https://i.imgur.com/ZhqFXhQ.jpg

Nick Necro
https://i.imgur.com/TiXombA.jpg

Merlin
https://i.imgur.com/rLba3CY.jpg

Zachary Zor
https://i.imgur.com/E6W12Yr.jpg

That's my list

Originally posted by Senor Cage
DC mystics >> Marvel's. That list is kinda bogus. They left out Tim Hunter, Hectate, Nabu, etc...

The list isnt bogus, the problem is people are taking the list for being something its not. Its NOT a comprehensive list of DC mystics nor is it a list of the most powerful. Its a list of who is the most powerful in each type of magic. You mention Hunter Hecate and Nabu, all of whom would fall under the category of archmage. Please educate us which of these is above Phantom Stranger??? Answer none.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
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Maybe add Loki in for one of those, but otherwise...

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Pretty much a complete list.

I don't think this team would stomp, exactly. With high end magic, it really comes down to the argument.

I mean, a total novice, Inza, with no Nabu in her helmet, creatively defeated multiple Lords of Order and Chaos. Of course, Black Alice is a walking anti mystic plot device, the likes of Madam Xanatu power jacked Spectre, the Sentinels of Magic neatly KILLED Spectre..


But Carv asked for a list that "could" take DC's best, and this certainly covers that.

Originally posted by beatboks
The list isnt bogus, the problem is people are taking the list for being something its not. Its NOT a comprehensive list of DC mystics nor is it a list of the most powerful. Its a list of who is the most powerful in each type of magic. You mention Hunter Hecate and Nabu, all of whom would fall under the category of archmage. Please educate us which of these is above Phantom Stranger??? Answer none.

You mean the list from DC Nation or the ones I mentioned? Hectate and Tim are above Phantom.

Originally posted by cdtm
Pretty much a complete list.

I don't think this team would stomp, exactly. With high end magic, it really comes down to the argument.

I mean, a total novice, Inza, with no Nabu in her helmet, creatively defeated multiple Lords of Order and Chaos. Of course, Black Alice is a walking anti mystic plot device, the likes of Madam Xanatu power jacked Spectre, the Sentinels of Magic neatly KILLED Spectre..


But Carv asked for a list that "could" take DC's best, and this certainly covers that.

That team or Marvel mystics above would probably lose to the best team of Justice League Dark.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
That team or Marvel mystics above would probably lose to the best team of Justice League Dark.

Yea currently they would

Zack, dont change the list. DC outright said the people above are the most powerful mages.

Originally posted by carver9
Zack, dont change the list. DC outright said the people above are the most powerful mages.

Not by feats.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
Not by feats.

Doesnt work like that. They ARE the most powerful.

Why not? Guys I mentioned are above the ones on the list. Mordru, for instance, took down the JSA by himself. He's not on the list.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
Why not? Guys I mentioned are above the ones on the list. Mordru, for instance, took down the JSA by himself. He's not on the list.

When did we start ignoring DC rankings?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Lol at the hood. Such a scrub

The guy with the hellfire chain was even worse, Sin. Remember him from Secret Warriors?

Hood at least had a great mini-series in Dark Reign. But I agree, he doesn't belong on the list, same with the chain dude.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The guy with the hellfire chain was even worse, Sin. Remember him from Secret Warriors?

Hood at least had a great mini-series in Dark Reign. But I agree, he doesn't belong on the list, same with the chain dude.

Three of the characters i dont recognize. The lady with the grey hair...the other flaming skull guy...and the guy beneath Voodoo. I also don't get the hype around Voodoo. The rest are ok although i think Doom is lacking in magical feats and Magik is oversold sometimes. Even current strange shouldn't be much of a bother

Originally posted by carver9
When did we start ignoring DC rankings?

Dc just ranked Tim as the most powerful magic user. Not even close

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Where are these scans from?

Not sure what issue, but it's in Books of Magic.

Swamp thing isn't even a mage. Not like the others.

Originally posted by carver9
When did we start ignoring DC rankings?

About the same time you started ignoring any feat that didn't make Superman look bad.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Three of the characters i dont recognize. The lady with the grey hair...the other flaming skull guy...and the guy beneath Voodoo. I also don't get the hype around Voodoo. The rest are ok although i think Doom is lacking in magical feats and Magik is oversold sometimes. Even current strange shouldn't be much of a bother

You've been posting with us for more than 12 years, Sin. Don't embarrass us! You should know those characters better than RL people at this point

The lady is Clea, Strange's ex-girlfriend.

The guy beneath Voodoo is the one I was talking about... he was a member of the Secret Warriors and a traitor. James Taylor James a.k.a. "Hellfire".

The flaming skull character is either Dormammu or Zarathos. Most likely Dormammu, as that's how the artist depicted him when he possessed the Hood.

Originally posted by -K-M-
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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You've been posting with us for more than 12 years, Sin. Don't embarrass us! You should know those characters better than RL people at this point

The lady is Clea, Strange's ex-girlfriend.

The guy beneath Voodoo is the one I was talking about... he was a member of the Secret Warriors and a traitor. James Taylor James a.k.a. "Hellfire".

The flaming skull character is either Dormammu or Zarathos. Most likely Dormammu, as that's how the artist depicted him when he possessed the Hood.

Clea is a throwaway character. Secret Warriors were trash after Phobos death and Dorm or Zarathos shouldn't be included with this rabble since they either work thru avatars or shadow versions of their true selves.

It's funny i was picking up some dollar bargain bin comics from a local store and this guy tried to school me on what's the best comic to read. My knowledge is supreme

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Clea is a throwaway character. Secret Warriors were trash after Phobos death and Dorm or Zarathos shouldn't be included with this rabble since they either work thru avatars or shadow versions of their true selves.

It's funny i was picking up some dollar bargain bin comics from a local store and this guy tried to school me on what's the best comic to read. My knowledge is supreme

It's just a cover, Sin. They're never meant to be taken literally.

Hellfire's only ability was setting his chain on hellfire, so he had no business being considered, either.

I was disappointed with Voodoo becoming a new Sorcerer Supreme.

Originally posted by carver9
Zack, dont change the list. DC outright said the people above are the most powerful mages.

No they didnt. They said they were each the most powerful of thier type of magic user. Since most archmages are more powerful than sorcerers and sorcoerers more powerful than magicians Zatanna wouldnt make the list at all if they were the "most powerful".

Carver needs to read some justice league dark.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
You mean the list from DC Nation or the ones I mentioned? Hectate and Tim are above Phantom.

Tim has the potential to be above PS but he hasnt shownnit as accomplished feats yet. So Hectate can beat Spectre?? Because PS has. Mordru (who like Nabu is obviously an archmage like Arion post flashpoint) is below PS also. That fact that they are above fate is meaningless as Fate is the peak of artifact wielding sorcerer not personal ppwer wielding archmage.

Originally posted by carver9
Zack, dont change the list. DC outright said the people above are the most powerful mages.

No they didn't.

https://i.postimg.cc/PrspHNd3/RCO018.jpg

Different schools, and their most powerful wielders.

That's like me making a list of the fastest basketball players from each of the different teams in the US.....and you coming around and making it out to be the fastest sportsmen in the world.

Edit: a better analogy, is me making a list of the fastest football players in each position they play.

Then you come round and say it's a list of the fastest football players, full stop. When the 2nd/3rd/4th placed QB could still smoke the 1st fullback or whatever.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Where are these scans from? The Books of Magic #4 (1991)

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No they didn't.

https://i.postimg.cc/PrspHNd3/RCO018.jpg

Different schools, and their most powerful wielders.

That's like me making a list of the fastest basketball players from each of the different teams in the US.....and you coming around and making it out to be the fastest sportsmen in the world.

Edit: a better analogy, is me making a list of the fastest football players in each position they play.

Then you come round and say it's a list of the fastest football players, full stop. When the 2nd/3rd/4th placed QB could still smoke the 1st fullback or whatever.
Shazam(Billy) should have represented the champion category.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Shazam(Billy) should have represented the champion category.

Same way these lists usually don't have WW in them. Sure, they're magic, but it's not like they're spellcasters or whatever *shrug*

Originally posted by Galan007
The Books of Magic #4 (1991)

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