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The good doctor is charged by his friend to remove a particularly dangerous parasite. Eddie need not survive, but he has to separate the two of them so leaving them in the mirror dimension isn't an option. Can he pry the two of them apart?

Strange sends him to hell

Strange via BFR.

Originally posted by playa1258
Strange via BFR.

You didn't read it, did you?

Strange hasn't shown any feats to suggest that he can separate two entities, but I would imagine that he could easily do so.

With prep obviously. If he was just attacked by venom?,he dies

Yeah, with prep, I think Strange could probably trap or bind him somehow until he figured out what to do. In a random encounter though? We've seen Strange have some issues with very fast opponents who can nab him at range. And, unlike Maw, Venom won't need him alive in return.

Strange destroys him.

It's true that in a straight attack with no prep Doc could be in trouble.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
With prep obviously. If he was just attacked by venom?,he dies

Originally posted by Darth Thor
If you doubt Strange at this point you simply are not being objective.

Its hilarious that you quote me when all ive done is quote someone else.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Its hilarious that you quote me when all ive done is quote someone else. Meaning you back his statement. Quit hating on Stephen.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Meaning you back his statement. Quit hating on Stephen.


Hating on who?

You just love stalking me.

That statement was there before I quoted anyone. Yet you ignored it.

Pussy (Venom voice)

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Hating on who?

You just love stalking me.

That statement was there before I quoted anyone. Yet you ignored it.

Pussy (Venom voice) No, you backed this silly statement. Strange decimates Venom.

Whatever you say stalker.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Whatever you say stalker. Public forum is not stalking. You are such a little girl.

How is my statement silly? With knowledge of what he is up against, Strange wins this 10/10. If he was just randomly attacked by Venom he would die from the first hit unless he was able to get a spell or bfr off.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
How is my statement silly? With knowledge of what he is up against, Strange wins this 10/10. If he was just randomly attacked by Venom he would die from the first hit unless he was able to get a spell or bfr off. Based off what?

Strange wins due to a portal. He can use the crimson bands of cytorrak or even exchange jabs with his energy weapon. We have seen him take on quicker, more powerful, and more skilled foes than Venom.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Strange wins due to a portal. He can use the crimson bands of cytorrak or even exchange jabs with his energy weapon. We have seen him take on quicker, more powerful, and more skilled foes than Venom.

No we haven't. Not and win. He lost all of his fights. Time stone saved him in his own movie. He lost to maw, and he lost to Thanos. He's pretty much done nothing but get his ass kicked.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Strange wins due to a portal. He can use the crimson bands of cytorrak or even exchange jabs with his energy weapon. We have seen him take on quicker, more powerful, and more skilled foes than Venom.

Name one person dr. Strange beat in fight without bfr'ing them

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Name one person dr. Strange beat in fight without bfr'ing them

He can't. It hasn't happened.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
No we haven't. Not and win. He lost all of his fights. Time stone saved him in his own movie. He lost to maw, and he lost to Thanos. He's pretty much done nothing but get his ass kicked. Thanos is a monster. He beat kaecilius. Maw is also very powerful. Using his gear to defeat someone of Dormammu power is a tremendous showing. Venom got his ass kicked by riot and bested humans for the most part. Thanos or Maw would decimate Venom. You are also forgetting Strange getting the better of Drax. Originally posted by ShadowFyre
He can't. It hasn't happened. Drax, Kaecilius. Probably speaking his name wrong but I do not care.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Name one person dr. Strange beat in fight without bfr'ing them Drax, Kaecilius.

Lol. His cape attacked Drax doing no damage whatsoever and kept him busy. Strange did nothing. He used the time stone to beat Kaecillius I believe.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Lol. His cape attacked Drax doing no damage whatsoever and kept him busy. Strange did nothing. He used the time stone to beat Kaecillius I believe. So now they do not count? Lol. You ignore every strange showing. His gear aids him in combat. You need to rewatch the film.

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Dr. Strange stomps....Venom's weakness is fire and sound. Strange turned a f*cking black hole into butterflies.

This is how this debate went down.


Originally posted by quanchi112
We have seen him take on quicker, more powerful, and more skilled foes than Venom.



Originally posted by ShadowFyre
No we haven't. Not and win.


Originally posted by quanchi112
Drax, Kaecilius.


Neither Drax or Kaecilius are quicker and more powerful foes than Venom.

He took an awfully long time overpowering Kaecilius in their first fight. He would not survive messing around with Venom for that long.

He also through that chain thing to imprison him, which is not standard wrap art for him.

Drax has displayed some great durability (which Strange did not overcome) but his combat prowess was a joke for the most part.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So now they do not count? Lol.


No your claim was Strange has taken on beings Faster and more Powerful than Venom. The counter claim was he did not beat those beings.

Then you began naming anyone he has ever beaten or overpowered. And you came up with a total of 2 names, neither of whom are anywhere near as fast as Venom.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
This is how this debate went down.












Neither Drax or Kaecilius are quicker and more powerful foes than Venom.

He took an awfully long time overpowering Kaecilius in their first fight. He would not survive messing around with Venom for that long.

He also through that chain thing to imprison him, which is not standard wrap art for him.

Drax has displayed some great durability (which Strange did not overcome) but his combat prowess was a joke for the most part. Kaecilius is more powerful and Drax is in the same durability tier.

Kaecilius has the same skillset and a lot more experience than Strange who bested him at the time. He is far more polished and seasoned since then making it irrelevant.


He would need to replicate that to defeat venom who has no defense to his spells. Strange showed just his cape can get the better of Drax so if he focused just on him he could easily best him.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
No your claim was Strange has taken on beings Faster and more Powerful than Venom. The counter claim was he did not beat those beings.

Then you began naming anyone he has ever beaten or overpowered. And you came up with a total of 2 names, neither of whom are anywhere near as fast as Venom. He did defeat Kaecilius and Drax one more powerful one more skilled. What is hilarious is venom is the loser of symbiotic and you believe he has a chance against the master of the mystic arts. Venom has no defenses for what Strange can do. None. This is an utter stomp.

No you said FASTER and more Powerful.

Neither of them are as fast as Venom.

Skill is almost completely mute next to superior speed.

Strange has trouble with superior speed as shown in his fight against Maw.

Also im not convinced either of them are more powerful than Venom either.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
No you said FASTER and more Powerful.

Neither of them are as fast as Venom.

Skill is almost completely mute next to superior speed.

Strange has trouble with superior speed as shown in his fight against Maw.

Also im not convinced either of them are more powerful than Venom either. First off you took the quotes out of order. The answer was to their question. Quotes are below you liar. Secondly maw is quicker and more powerful than venom. Strange was defeated but that is someone a lot more powerful, precise, and faster than venom.

Venom is nowhere near as powerful as Maw. Quit being a troll.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Name one person dr. Strange beat in fight without bfr'ing them Originally posted by ShadowFyre
He can't. It hasn't happened.

Um, Strange takes this based on his fight against Thanos alone. Are we really going to hold the fact that he lost against him? Everyone lost to Thanos in that movie. Strange actually did quite well for a bit.

No. We've already said Strange wins. That's not what were arguing.

Originally posted by emporerpants
Um, Strange takes this based on his fight against Thanos alone. Are we really going to hold the fact that he lost against him? Everyone lost to Thanos in that movie. Strange actually did quite well for a bit.


That was with massive prep time though.

Without prep however Maw overpowered Strange relatively easily.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
That was with massive prep time though.

Without prep however Maw overpowered Strange relatively easily. No, he got the drop on him. Maw is far more deadly than Venom.

The problem with Dr. Strange is that he's a great crowd control character but is somewhat lacking in DPS.

When it comes to locking down opponents, confusing them or keeping them busy, BFR, assisting team mates, he's second to none.

But when it comes to actually taking out high-end opponents he doesn't exactly have that much firepower.

So he can win via BFR, either portal or mirror dimension, and he can definitely knock Venom around but outside of that I don't see how he actually knocks him out long enough to separate Brock. Maybe a fireball? Did Strange ever do a fireball?

Got the drop on him? They squared off and Strange had Wong's help. He's still relatively new to fighting he's a good sorcerer but needs more experience in actually fighting

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Got the drop on him? They squared off and Strange had Wong's help. He's still relatively new to fighting he's a good sorcerer but needs more experience in actually fighting No, he is not new he upped his game since his original film. He is much more polished in Infinity War.

He should have used the Time Gem right away.

Just like Thor should have aimed for Dione's arm.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he got the drop on him. Maw is far more deadly than Venom.


No he did not. Maw simply overpowered him.

Of course Venom is no Maw. That said Venom could very well get the drop on Strange in a random street fight.

Strange gets venomized.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
No he did not. Maw simply overpowered him.

Of course Venom is no Maw. That said Venom could very well get the drop on Strange in a random street fight. No, he was too quick while strange trued another tactic. Rewatch the scene. Not at all. Strange is too seasoned venom got worked by riot and beating cops is not impressive present company included.

But Strange is not seasoned, his cape is seasoned. Literally, the cape has done a lot more than Strange has.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
But Strange is not seasoned, his cape is seasoned. Literally, the cape has done a lot more than Strange has. Filmmakers say otherwise. Lol.

Being seasoned is not an argument.


Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he was too quick while strange trued another tactic.


Yes he was too quick. Hence why Venom has a decent shot at short range or by getting the jump on Strange.

Obviously Strange is overall more powerful though. No one is disputing that. But he clearly has a glass jaw which Venom can exploit in some situations.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Being seasoned is not an argument.





Yes he was too quick. Hence why Venom has a decent shot at short range or by getting the jump on Strange.

Obviously Strange is overall more powerful though. No one is disputing that. But he clearly has a glass jaw which Venom can exploit in some situations. Yes, it is. If your better with your powers and have given since then that means it no longer relevant.

So you concede the claim he was overpowered. He was quicker than the time stone but that is a slower strange attack.

Nah, he is too seasoned now.