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Who wins?

Natchios.

She's the ultimate martial artist.

Elektra.

Ekektra

Looks like we all agree Castle loses royally in pure h2h.

To Iron Fist.

Frank beats Hellbat, yeah.

Originally posted by riv6672
Frank beats Son Goku, yeah.

Agreed 100%.

Elektra stomps him.

Here, he tries to sneak attack her. Doesn't work.
https://i.imgur.com/GRJahog.jpg

World class talent. Wouldn't even hear her coming:
https://i.imgur.com/X45wnkK.jpg

Completely outclassed:
https://i.imgur.com/A4fpeSD.jpg

And the best one - she disarms him whilst she's standing in front of him, and his gun is pointed right at him:
https://imgur.com/a/bVTYZZO

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Natchios.

She's the ultimate martial artist.

She sounds like a mexican appetizer.

Nobody's "stomping" anyone here, that's ridiculous.

Those scans are very selective.

Instead, how about using Frank Castle from the Garth Ennis run? would there be any 'stomping' going on with that iteration of the Punisher? Not a chance. No question that Electra is a superior hand-to hand fighter, but the thread says 'wins?' not 'comes first in a martial arts style competition'. Castle is all about winning. Blow him up, stab him, drown him, set him on fire, break his bones, shoot him, he will still beat you eventually. Especially the Garth Ennis version. He's a monster.

Originally posted by wuleecat
Nobody's "stomping" anyone here, that's ridiculous.

Those scans are very selective.

Instead, how about using Frank Castle from the Garth Ennis run? would there be any 'stomping' going on with that iteration of the Punisher? Not a chance. No question that Electra is a superior hand-to hand fighter, but the thread says 'wins?' not 'comes first in a martial arts style competition'. Castle is all about winning. Blow him up, stab him, drown him, set him on fire, break his bones, shoot him, he will still beat you eventually. Especially the Garth Ennis version. He's a monster.

She's stopped Wolverine in his tracks with her sais.

Someone who is better at tanking attacks than Frank.
Did Ennis Punisher meet Elektra? Because then you might have a point.

Lol guess who wrote the scans I posted

I'll save you the bother...this is Ennis Punisher, lol.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

And the best one - she disarms him whilst she's standing in front of him, and his gun is pointed right at him:
https://imgur.com/a/bVTYZZO

she does to frank what any uber skilled ma should do to him every time.... this really isn't very close at all.

Originally posted by leonidas
she does to frank what any uber skilled ma should do to him every time.... this really isn't very close at all.

And she doesn't just have it in skill.

Her death with Bullseye? She was stabbed through the heart, and still crawled to Matt's house:
https://imgur.com/a/HSRVIta

Here, shes fighting with Bullseye (who admits she was always better than him, and has been upgraded), who smashes her skull. She then gets up, and continues fighting (the Hand aren't even slowing her down):
https://imgur.com/a/9Z9Kby8

Confirmation that it's not just hyperbole - SHIELD had to rebuild her skull:
https://i.imgur.com/Da4IRDp.jpg

So yes, Frank is a tough cookie. So is Elektra.

Doesn't Elektra have legit low level TP/TK on top of being an excellent martial artist? How does Punisher win?

So why aint this just another case of..."GUNS solve all problems" debate?

She's fast enough to slice a bullet out of the air.

https://i.postimg.cc/YhmcvHKh/VCre-Yfe-d.jpg

Originally posted by wuleecat
Nobody's "stomping" anyone here, that's ridiculous.

Those scans are very selective.

Instead, how about using Frank Castle from the Garth Ennis run? would there be any 'stomping' going on with that iteration of the Punisher? Not a chance. No question that Electra is a superior hand-to hand fighter, but the thread says 'wins?' not 'comes first in a martial arts style competition'. Castle is all about winning. Blow him up, stab him, drown him, set him on fire, break his bones, shoot him, he will still beat you eventually. Especially the Garth Ennis version. He's a monster.

Ennis had Castle running scared from Elektra.

Elektra operating anywhere near peak levels should take Frank out.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
She's fast enough to slice a bullet out of the air.

https://i.postimg.cc/YhmcvHKh/VCre-Yfe-d.jpg

Frank tends to shoot way more then one bullet at a time.

Matt can deflect bullets, too, and Frank still shot a baton thrown by him out of the air, inch's from his face.

He's fast enough to beat the Radar Sense and Spidey Sense.

Elektra definitely wins, no question.

It just isn't the train-wreck stompathon that is being implied. To stop Castle she's pretty much going to have to cut his head off or something because as long as he's breathing he's still going to pull something out of the bag (like a phosphorous grenade, let's see her swat that away)

(By the way, I I'm a bit embarrassed I didn't spot that the scans were Ennis! Haha)

Originally posted by Flyattractor
Frank tends to shoot way more then one bullet at a time.

Was hoping you'd say that.

https://i.postimg.cc/K40m0W6N/Xpmuvpj-d.jpg



And that's when she's in mid air, unable to jump out of the way etc.

Looks like a Crap Scenario. But then that is why Frank likes Shot Guns. You can't do that with Shot..

Lol when even Ennis Punisher says he can't beat her, it's time to give up.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Was hoping you'd say that.

https://i.postimg.cc/K40m0W6N/Xpmuvpj-d.jpg



And that's when she's in mid air, unable to jump out of the way etc.

DarkSaint with that extra clip.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85


And the best one - she disarms him whilst she's standing in front of him, and his gun is pointed right at him:
https://imgur.com/a/bVTYZZO

See, as great a scene as that is, it opens up a whole can of worms on why Matt can't just disarm him faster then he can see. Or Spidey, who's faster than Matt.

Ennis Elektra would solo Ennis Matt, Spidey, and (lol) Logan all at the same time.

Originally posted by cdtm
See, as great a scene as that is, it opens up a whole can of worms on why Matt can't just disarm him faster then he can see. Or Spidey, who's faster than Matt.

Ennis Elektra would solo Ennis Matt, Spidey, and (lol) Logan all at the same time.

It's because Matt can't see

I used it because Ennis Punisher is usually (rightly so) used as his pinnacle.

Problem is, if we are being fair and applying it across the board, then Ennis Elektra enters the field. And she's pretty Uber.

This goes without mentioning her TK/TP abilities like zoppy mentioned.

Are there stories you, or someone, can recommend that shows off Elektra's TK/TP powers in combat?


And are they something she has currently but forgets to use. Or has but can't access freely or easily?

Is it more a case of writers simply ignoring the power (Would have come in handy against Gorgon), or something that was written out with explanation?

They just ignore it. File it under 'mysterious ninja powers'....