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Team 1 After A Tough Battle+where's The Location?

lol hal solos

Good that Wonder Woman have that lasso because without it, I would give it to Namor and BM.

Team 1 wins this. Namor alone has more power than Thor and Iron Man, and if he was only giving 10% in that showing (which appeared to be the case), 40% dried out would be more than enough to solo.

Hal one shots either of them.

Lol wtf? Dc stomps. That is a one time showing for namor and none of you have any idea what kind of amp he has had. He blocked a strike from a massively nerfed Thor, a d took some hits from Carol and She Hulk. Let's not get crazy here. The same needed Thor beat him just as month or so ago.


DC wins 10/10 Namor is outta his league

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Lol wtf? Dc stomps. That is a one time showing for namor and none of you have any idea what kind of amp he has had. He blocked a strike from a massively nerfed Thor, a d took some hits from Carol and She Hulk. Let's not get crazy here. The same needed Thor beat him just as month or so ago.


DC wins 10/10 Namor is outta his league
She Hulk attacked him from behind with a massive punch that left a crater in the sea floor and he just got up like nothing happened. Carol let loose a massive haymaker to his face, while he was holding Thor and Iron Man, and he didn't even flinch.

If this amp is permanent, T2 is in deep sh|t.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Lol wtf? Dc stomps. That is a one time showing for namor and none of you have any idea what kind of amp he has had. He blocked a strike from a massively nerfed Thor, a d took some hits from Carol and She Hulk. Let's not get crazy here. The same needed Thor beat him just as month or so ago.


DC wins 10/10 Namor is outta his league

You have no idea what's going on. Read up on the characters that you've made comments about before rendering an opinion, because it's painfully obvious that you've missed something.

Hal oneshots either of them.

Namor slaps the wench into oblivion and also beats Diana.

Hard to rate Namor after one showing where the cause of the power up wasn't properly elucidated.

Originally posted by Stoic
Team 1 wins this. Namor alone has more power than Thor and Iron Man, and if he was only giving 10% in that showing (which appeared to be the case), 40% dried out would be more than enough to solo.
Compared to Hal who defeated literally thousands of Darkstars in one blast while a few of them overpowered Zod and Orion?

Originally posted by Galan007
Hal 'God-Will' Jordan strikes again:
https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/39123563_8160403.jpg https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/39123565_8371211.jpg https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/39123567_6228426.jpg https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/39123569_6111362.jpg https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/39123571_283221.jpg https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/39123574_198128.jpg

Originally posted by Stoic
You have no idea what's going on. Read up on the characters that you've made comments about before rendering an opinion, because it's painfully obvious that you've missed something.


Uhhh no. Namor has never been shown to be this strong.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Compared to Hal who defeated literally thousands of Darkstars in one blast while a few of them overpowered Zod and Orion?

Would you agree that Hal loses to Superman? If you do you'd also agree that he'd lose to Zod, and Orion. A year ago Namor was able to physically contend with Hyperion who should range right up there next to Zod. Namor is far above that level these days. There was major context to that story as well, and the Darkstars were more formidable at the beginning of said story line, and were later deflated like a bunch of balloons. In the end they looked like a bunch of fodder filler to me thanks to plot direction.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Uhhh no. Namor has never been shown to be this strong.

I wasn't talking about the past. Presently She Hulk is far more powerful than she was in the past, which is why I made my earlier statement. Namor is as well. We see this in the comparison to a normal and not nerfed Thor. Unless you can show me where this nerf was shown. I recall this very same Thor defeating a full powered Juggernaut recently, so there's that.

Originally posted by Stoic
Would you agree that Hal loses to Superman? If you do you'd also agree that he'd lose to Zod, and Orion. A year ago Namor was able to physically contend with Hyperion who should range right up there next to Zod. Namor is far above that level these days. There was major context to that story as well, and the Darkstars were more formidable at the beginning of said story line, and were later deflated like a bunch of balloons. In the end they looked like a bunch of fodder filler to me thanks to plot direction.



I wasn't talking about the past. Presently She Hulk is far more powerful than she was in the past, which is why I made my earlier statement. Namor is as well. We see this in the comparison to a normal and not nerfed Thor. Unless you can show me where this nerf was shown. I recall this very same Thor defeating a full powered Juggernaut recently, so there's that.
Hal straight up defeated Zod when he had enough.

And no, Darkstars weren't fodder all of a sudden because Hal defeated them. Just a few pages earlier they were stomping all over GLC, Zod, Orion etc.

It's a competable for Namor as long as Hal is not taking the fight seriously. If he does, he will incinerate Namor like he did against Sinestrollax.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hal straight up defeated Zod when he had enough.

And no, Darkstars weren't fodder all of a sudden because Hal defeated them. Just a few pages earlier they were stomping all over GLC, Zod, Orion etc.

It's a competable for Namor as long as Hal is not taking the fight seriously. If he does, he will incinerate Namor like he did against Sinestrollax.

If that's the case, which I wholly disagree with, he'd be able to do the same to Superman. The Darkstars suddenly did become fodder, as you said that in the beginning they were stomping all over the GLC Zod, and Orion, which actually solidifies my argument on the subject of their sudden debuff. In this case Namor isn't going to suddenly deflate to suit a shitty plot that should have, or would have gone South for the heroes if not for Hector the fat headed plot device. To further solidify my stance on this matter, Namor used very little effort in rolling on a team that just prior to encountering him defeated a host of dark Celestials. So am I supposed to be more impressed with the Darkstars, while ignoring that the host of dark Celestials make the Darkstars look puny? Pshhh... opinions and all that... You feel me?

Namor solos.

Blue Marvel dies from a piece of stray debris.

Hal or Diana solos. Diana has the Witchmark now. She would just banish these losers.

WW is packing some serious heat.

https://i.imgur.com/owplSeT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/uLvPum4.jpg

It took Diana 7.7 power ups to become a bootleg Manifold and it terrifies Swamp Thing and Zatanna....

Originally posted by Stoic
If that's the case, which I wholly disagree with, he'd be able to do the same to Superman. The Darkstars suddenly did become fodder, as you said that in the beginning they were stomping all over the GLC Zod, and Orion, which actually solidifies my argument on the subject of their sudden debuff. In this case Namor isn't going to suddenly deflate to suit a shitty plot that should have, or would have gone South for the heroes if not for Hector the fat headed plot device. To further solidify my stance on this matter, Namor used very little effort in rolling on a team that just prior to encountering him defeated a host of dark Celestials. So am I supposed to be more impressed with the Darkstars, while ignoring that the host of dark Celestials make the Darkstars look puny? Pshhh... opinions and all that... You feel me?
Then Thor and Iron Man suddenly became fodder too if that's the route you're going.

Originally posted by Stoic
You have no idea what's going on. Read up on the characters that you've made comments about before rendering an opinion, because it's painfully obvious that you've missed something.

Lol.

We don't want to be using current powerups....

WW is currently walking around with some insane levels ATM.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It took Diana 7.7 power ups to become a bootleg Manifold and it terrifies Swamp Thing and Zatanna....

She's skyfather plus level. She has a portion of Hectate's power, but it was enough to own Upside Down Man. She's capable of soloing the field, along with Hal Jordan.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Lol wtf? Dc stomps. That is a one time showing for namor and none of you have any idea what kind of amp he has had. He blocked a strike from a massively nerfed Thor, a d took some hits from Carol and She Hulk. Let's not get crazy here. The same needed Thor beat him just as month or so ago.


DC wins 10/10 Namor is outta his league

Where was it stated that he lost to Thor in their previous fight?,I must have missed that

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol.

We don't want to be using current powerups....

WW is currently walking around with some insane levels ATM.

Very little 8nthe way of feats to agree with you there.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
She's skyfather plus level. She has a portion of Hectate's power, but it was enough to own Upside Down Man. She's capable of soloing the field, along with Hal Jordan.

Completely subjective. We have no idea how it would against a character that isn't an agent of darkness, so no.

Originally posted by Genii96
Where was it stated that he lost to Thor in their previous fight?,I must have missed that

Thor #1 I believe. Thor has not gotten weaker. Namor has gotten stronger.

Originally posted by Stoic
Very little 8nthe way of feats to agree with you there.

She was ripping reality apart in her fight with Hecate:
https://i.postimg.cc/5j1Bjnnx/RCO021.jpg

According to John Constantine, she has unlimited power:
https://i.postimg.cc/mhwQ9C57/RCO015-w.jpg

And was able to rip holes in reality 'casually' with 'a flick of her wrist'.
https://i.postimg.cc/svg54xkq/RCO004.jpg

But yeah, Namor can punch really hard now

And this city wide attack was just straight up tanked:
https://i.postimg.cc/kB2B5S3J/RCO011-1.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/V5GJ1RhZ/RCO012.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/PNrCBcS8/RCO013-1.jpg

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And this city wide attack was just straight up tanked:
https://i.postimg.cc/kB2B5S3J/RCO011-1.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/V5GJ1RhZ/RCO012.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/PNrCBcS8/RCO013-1.jpg

Hulk punched holes through reality in the past, only to later end up as chewing gum on the bottom of Captain America's boots. How many characters have boasted feats like this only to get shown the door? Thor beat Glory who had a resume so grand that before the conflict took place Rage and Damborg were sitting on pins and needles, but then he turns around gets owned by Pagan, along with the rest of that team.

You can't be taking that comment seriously when unlimited power levels are thrown around like hot dogs in a daycare by writers that thrive on hyperbole, if that's the case, I'm expecting the same reactions out of you the next time they say that the Hulk and She Hulk has unlimited power.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
She was ripping reality apart in her fight with Hecate:
https://i.postimg.cc/5j1Bjnnx/RCO021.jpg

According to John Constantine, she has unlimited power:
https://i.postimg.cc/mhwQ9C57/RCO015-w.jpg

And was able to rip holes in reality 'casually' with 'a flick of her wrist'.
https://i.postimg.cc/svg54xkq/RCO004.jpg

But yeah, Namor can punch really hard now Good point. Namor wins

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And this city wide attack was just straight up tanked:
https://i.postimg.cc/kB2B5S3J/RCO011-1.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/V5GJ1RhZ/RCO012.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/PNrCBcS8/RCO013-1.jpg

Manitou dawn or whatever her name was threatened to kill Rama Kushna, which shows how much power they're packing.

Originally posted by Stoic
Hulk punched holes through reality in the past, only to later end up as chewing gum on the bottom of Captain America's boots. How many characters have boasted feats like this only to get shown the door? Thor beat Glory who had a resume so grand that before the conflict took place Rage and Damborg were sitting on pins and needles, but then he turns around gets owned by Pagan, along with the rest of that team.

You can't be taking that comment seriously when unlimited power levels are thrown around like hot dogs in a daycare by writers that thrive on hyperbole, if that's the case, I'm expecting the same reactions out of you the next time they say that the Hulk and She Hulk has unlimited power.

Rama is a skyfather plus. Diana is way out of their league.

Originally posted by Stoic
Hulk punched holes through reality in the past, only to later end up as chewing gum on the bottom of Captain America's boots. How many characters have boasted feats like this only to get shown the door? Thor beat Glory who had a resume so grand that before the conflict took place Rage and Damborg were sitting on pins and needles, but then he turns around gets owned by Pagan, along with the rest of that team.

You can't be taking that comment seriously when unlimited power levels are thrown around like hot dogs in a daycare by writers that thrive on hyperbole, if that's the case, I'm expecting the same reactions out of you the next time they say that the Hulk and She Hulk has unlimited power.

My point was, WW has had a power up, which you forgot about. Then turned round and accused another poster of not keeping up with current comics, lol.

DS youre right Wonder Woman solos. Hal doesnt though. She really doesnt belong in this or any weight class below Phoenix Avatar level

Originally posted by abhilegend
Compared to Hal who defeated literally thousands of Darkstars in one blast while a few of them overpowered Zod and Orion?

He had enough willpower to channel to all of the Darkstars, which caused their mantles to malfunction.

All depends on how much willpower is needed to make them malfunction. Mind you, Hal DOES say he detonated Warworld last time he did such a trick....