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Fight is on a barren planet the size of Earth.
How would the fight go?

the goddess shatters him

Pretty much.

I'm pretty sure that if the Destroyer could handle Hela, Odin wouldn't have locked her up instead.

Hela rapes it.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I'm pretty sure that if the Destroyer could handle Hela, Odin wouldn't have locked her up instead.

This is a movie. Stuff like that don't matter since writers are not always thinking about stuff like that. Plus we don't know when the Destroyer was created.

How would Hela beat the destroyer?
Blades?
Punching it?

Punching it WITH blades?

Originally posted by juggerman
Punching it WITH blades?

That's if the blades are as durable as the destroyer.

I challenge h1 to a Battle Zone in regards to his claim that Hela only has a healing ability while on Asgard.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I challenge h1 to a Battle Zone in regards to his claim that Hela only has a healing ability while on Asgard.

I'm not claiming that. I'm stating that she has a healing ability in Asgard. We have no clue what's the case outside of Asgard. Even if she does then it's not unlimited. She will eventually run out of energy.

Originally posted by h1a8
I'm not claiming that. I'm stating that she has a healing ability in Asgard. We have no clue what's the case outside of Asgard. Even if she does then it's not unlimited. She will eventually run out of energy.

If you aren't claiming the healing factor only works on Asgard, why bring it up at all?

Prove that the Destroyer can make her run out of energy.

Are you really repping a almost fearless destroyer against Hela?

Originally posted by Silent Master
If you aren't claiming the healing factor only works on Asgard, why bring it up at all?

Prove that the Destroyer can make her run out of energy.

I don't know. That's why I created the thread. You guys argue who should win and why. Just provide proof of any claims.

If you weren't claiming she only had the healing ability on Asgard, why did you specifically mention that she only showed the healing a building while on Asgard?

Another thing to note here is Hela's armor. It no-sold fire from Asgardian warships. So, not sure how effective energy attacks by the Destroyer would be anyways.

At 1:45:

Kuh2DE-vEso

Granted, the Destroyer's beam is bigger, and likely stronger, but those impacts did nothing to her. And her being on/off Asgard shouldn't make a difference to what she wears.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If you weren't claiming she only had the healing ability on Asgard, why did you specifically mention that she only showed the healing a building while on Asgard?

Because healing outside Asgard requires proof if that is what's claimed. As does how much she can heal since she does not have a Asgard as a power supply.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Another thing to note here is Hela's armor. It no-sold fire from Asgardian warships. So, not sure how effective energy attacks by the Destroyer would be anyways.

At 1:45:

Kuh2DE-vEso

Granted, the Destroyer's beam is bigger, and likely stronger, but those impacts did nothing to her. And her being on/off Asgard shouldn't make a difference to what she wears.

Well if those blasts are weaker then they have absolutely no bearing on what the Destroyer's blasts would do to her.

Originally posted by h1a8
Because healing outside Asgard requires proof if that is what's claimed. As does how much she can heal since she does not have a Asgard as a power supply.

Why does healing outside Asgard require proof?

Originally posted by h1a8
Well if those blasts are weaker then they have absolutely no bearing on what the Destroyer's blasts would do to her.

Except it does. Using your logic, Luke Cage being able to completely no-sell a taser would have zero bearing on his ability to at least partially resist stronger electrical attacks.

If Hela can no-sell ship lasers, this tells us that her armour is at least somewhat resistant to Asgardian energy weapons. Which will provide at least some degree of protection against the Destroyer.

Also, the Destroyer's blast couldn't even kill one of the Warriors Three, at 1:28:

9UvCZqQbvqc

Not to mention it is kind of slow. Based on her fight against Asgard's army, Hela dances circles around it. And if Sif could pierce it, Hela will likely have no issues. And unlike Sif, Hela can use her blades as projectiles.

This is really not rocket science.

The Destroyer phucking sucked.

Hela stomps.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Except it does. Using your logic, Luke Cage being able to completely no-sell a taser would have zero bearing on his ability to at least partially resist stronger electrical attacks.

If Hela can no-sell ship lasers, this tells us that her armour is at least somewhat resistant to Asgardian energy weapons. Which will provide at least some degree of protection against the Destroyer.

Also, the Destroyer's blast couldn't even kill one of the Warriors Three, at 1:28:

9UvCZqQbvqc

Not to mention it is kind of slow. Based on her fight against Asgard's army, Hela dances circles around it. And if Sif could pierce it, Hela will likely have no issues. And unlike Sif, Hela can use her blades as projectiles.

This is really not rocket science.

Remember showings are either high or low. You can't use a low showing as the standard. Destroyer's blasts easily killed frost giants. Also the blast didn't hit any of the warriors three.
Those ship blasts have no feats.


Also you forget about the "egg" principle.
If you apply a little less than the minimum force of cracking the egg to the egg then it would appear that the egg no sold the force. But apply a little more then the egg cracks.

Prove that Hela's blades are more durable than Destroyer's armor?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Why does healing outside Asgard require proof?

Because it is a claim.

Originally posted by h1a8
Because it is a claim.

We know she has a healing factor because we've seen it, even you admit that. you're just claiming that the healing factor only works on Asgard.

The burden is on you.

Originally posted by Silent Master
We know she has a healing factor because we've seen it, even you admit that. you're just claiming that the healing factor only works on Asgard.

The burden is on you.

I'm not claiming anything. I don't know how her healing would work outside of Asgard. It's only speculation. Others just can't claim her to be able to heal outside Asgard without some good evidence.

Originally posted by h1a8
I'm not claiming anything. I don't know how her healing would work outside of Asgard. It's only speculation. Others just can't claim her to be able to heal outside Asgard without some good evidence.


Being on Asgard doesnt change powersets. Youve been explained this many times, but you insist on continued trolling.

Originally posted by h1a8
I'm not claiming anything. I don't know how her healing would work outside of Asgard. It's only speculation. Others just can't claim her to be able to heal outside Asgard without some good evidence.

Sure you are, you're just trying to be clever about it. Nowhere in any of the movies has it ever been stated that she has different powers outside of Asgard. Therefore saying that people need to provide proof that she can heal outside of Asgard is just more of your trolling.

We are talking about that thing thor chumped in his first movie, yeah?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Sure you are, you're just trying to be clever about it. Nowhere in any of the movies has it ever been stated that she has different powers outside of Asgard. Therefore saying that people need to provide proof that she can heal outside of Asgard is just more of your trolling.
You can't claim something without evidence. There's nothing clever about it.
It's been stated that she draws power from Asgard. It's possible she draws this power to heal and recover or heal faster and infinite times. After Thor struck her he stated that the longer she is in Asgard the more powerful she gets.

You have to provide evidence that she can heal outside of Asgard. After that you have to show to what extent.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Being on Asgard doesnt change powersets. Youve been explained this many times, but you insist on continued trolling.

Prove it then.
Prove that she can heal outside of Asgard without using Asgard as a power source. And prove to what extent she can heal (how fast and how often you). Because otherwise you are speculating.

Exactly and you are essentially claiming that her power set is different outside of Asgard, therefore you have to provide proof.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Exactly and you are essentially claiming that her power set is different outside of Asgard, therefore you have to provide proof.

I'm saying that we do not know.
How do you know if she can heal as fast as she can in Asgard (if at all)?
How do you know if she can heal an indefinite amount of times outside of Asgard?

Again,, the movie never once stated or even hinted that she had a different power set outside of Asgard. Therefore if you want to claim it's possible, the burden is on you.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Again,, the movie never once stated or even hinted that she had a different power set outside of Asgard. Therefore if you want to claim it's possible, the burden is on you.
Stop using other people's arguments a lot. It makes you look dumb.


Power set has nothing to do with using Asgard as a power source to heal oneself.
And it's not just about the ability to heal but how fast and how many times.
So let's assume Hela can heal. You have to prove how many times and how fast.

Prove that she uses Asgard as a power source in order to heal.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Prove that she uses Asgard as a power source in order to heal. I gave evidence to support it. She draws power from Asgard. Its possible she uses this to regenerate.

And I stated assuming she can heal outside of Asgard then how many times?

IOW, you can't actually prove your claim which means we can ignore it.

If she can heal outside of asgard is irrelevant. Hela physically overpowered thor twice. Once on earth when she palmed/broke his hammer and once in the bifrost. She's, at the minimum, as strong as thor and thor beat the destroyer.

H1 just likes to troll.

Originally posted by h1a8

Power set has nothing to do with using Asgard as a power source to heal oneself.



WTH is this? She uses Asgard as a healing source?

Stop making stuff up all the time.

She gets her power from Asgard SAME AS THOR. Did you notice any visible difference in Thors durability and other powers on and off Asgard?

No you didnt. Its an amp they get on Asgard, but theres no visible change to the way their powers work.

We already know she was massively more powerful than Thor off Asgard, and we have seen Thor instant heal off Asgard, so literally no reason to think Helas healing wont work exactly the same, and nothing to prove in that regard.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Exactly and you are essentially claiming that her power set is different outside of Asgard, therefore you have to provide proof. Nope!
Not claiming anything. Her power set could be slightly different or weaker or gradually getting weaker outside (one of the three) outside of Asgard.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
WTH is this? She uses Asgard as a healing source?

Stop making stuff up all the time.

She gets her power from Asgard SAME AS THOR. Did you notice any visible difference in Thors durability and other powers on and off Asgard?

No you didnt. Its an amp they get on Asgard, but theres no visible change to the way their powers work.

We already know she was massively more powerful than Thor off Asgard, and we have seen Thor instant heal off Asgard, so literally no reason to think Helas healing wont work exactly the same, and nothing to prove in that regard.

I'm not saying that she does but that she possibly does. This possibility forces a member to have to prove that she can heal just as effectively or as many times as she can while away from Asgard.

Originally posted by h1a8
That's if the blades are as durable as the destroyer.

There's no reason to think they aren't when Lady Sif stabbed through the thing easily

Originally posted by h1a8
Nope!
Not claiming anything. Her power set could be slightly different or weaker or gradually getting weaker outside (one of the three) outside of Asgard.



I'm not saying that she does but that she possibly does. This possibility forces a member to have to prove that she can heal just as effectively or as many times as she can while away from Asgard.


Until you provide proof, all your speculations about what might be possible will be ignored.

What bullshit is this? People don't need to disprove someone's personal speculation because they think there is a "possibility" of something.

Using that reasoning, anyone can go into any thread, assert something based on personal speculation or some flimsy "possibility", and demand others prove it wrong. That's not how honest, fair debating in good faith works.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Until you provide proof, all your speculations about what might be possible will be ignored. That doesnt change that the fact of the possibility. So no one can claim that Hela can heal indefinitely outside of Asgard. Therefore she can't. And therefore Destroyer wins.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
What bullshit is this? People don't need to disprove someone's personal speculation because they think there is a "possibility" of something.

Using that reasoning, anyone can go into any thread, assert something based on personal speculation or some flimsy "possibility", and demand others prove it wrong. That's not how honest, fair debating in good faith works.

The possibility of something else forces someone to prove their claim (not disprove the possibility of that something).

In other words, how can someone say that Hela can heal indefinitely outside of Asgard without proof when there is evidence to support that she draws power from Asgard while on Asgard.

Originally posted by juggerman
There's no reason to think they aren't when Lady Sif stabbed through the thing easily Didnt she stabbed through the slots?
And why would Hela's blades be equal or more durable than Sif's blades?
Sif's blades can be 10x more durable than Hela's, yet both can penetrate Asgardians.

Originally posted by h1a8
That doesnt change that the fact of the possibility. So no one can claim that Hela can heal indefinitely outside of Asgard. Therefore she can't. And therefore Destroyer wins.

You have provided no proof, so your baseless speculation is being ignored.

Originally posted by h1a8
Didnt she stabbed through the slots?
And why would Hela's blades be equal or more durable than Sif's blades?
Sif's blades can be 10x more durable than Hela's, yet both can penetrate Asgardians.

No
Hela's blades have better feats
Can you prove Sif's are 10x more durable?

Originally posted by h1a8
Didnt she stabbed through the slots?
And why would Hela's blades be equal or more durable than Sif's blades?
Sif's blades can be 10x more durable than Hela's, yet both can penetrate Asgardians.

What proof do you have that Sif's blades can be ten times more durable?

Didn't Thor or some other Asgardian take one of Destroyer's blasts without dying?

There was even going to be a scene where Hela rips apart the Destroyer in Ragnarok.

https://screenrant.com/hela-destroyer-thor-ragnarok/

Originally posted by Nevan
Didn't Thor or some other Asgardian take one of Destroyer's blasts without dying?

There was even going to be a scene where Hela rips apart the Destroyer in Ragnarok.

https://screenrant.com/hela-destroyer-thor-ragnarok/

That alone is all the proof I need.

Destroyer is weak Hela is pretty formidable.

Originally posted by juggerman
No
Hela's blades have better feats
Can you prove Sif's are 10x more durable?
No they don't. Those blades suck on average. The only feats they have is piercing Asgardians.

Originally posted by Silent Master
What proof do you have that Sif's blades can be ten times more durable?
They can be a billion times. They can be 1.2 times. They can be 1.00001 times. Who cares?

Originally posted by h1a8
No they don't. Those blades suck on average. The only feats they have is piercing Asgardians.

They also took out their battleships. 1:36 and 1:46:

Kuh2DE-vEso

Originally posted by h1a8
They can be a billion times. They can be 1.2 times. They can be 1.00001 times. Who cares?

You do, since you're the one that brought it up. Now either provide proof or your speculation will be ignored.

Originally posted by h1a8
Those ships look like they were made of wood. There is no way one should think that Sif's sword couldn't penetrate those ships. You are really reaching here. I guess Hela's blades explode on impact when connecting with wood now

Do you have any proof whatsoever that Sif's blades can do that or are you just pulling more nonsense out ya butt?

Did the ship Thor and company escape on also look like it was made out of wood when Hela impaled that too?

Why are people still engaging H1's retardation here? It's obvious that he made up his mind about things before he even made the thread, and will just ignore whatever doesn't suit his agenda, while making things up along the way, and then expect other people to accept his bullshit at face value.

It's the same MO he has in every single thread he takes part in. He's nothing but a troll. He may lack the self-awareness to realise it, but it's plainly obvious to literally everyone else who interacts with him for any length of time. Even people who routinely disagree with each other agree on this.

Originally posted by h1a8
1. Hela could have had ties to Mjolnir to achieve the feat.
2. That could be a low showing for Mjolnir since Hela displayed no other strength feat even in the 10% range of that feat (assuming it was all strength). Therefore, going by all her other showings and Mjolnir peak showings then she can't crush Mjolnir.




The point is we don't know without feats. Someone just can't claim Hela's blades are as durable or more durable than Sif's sword without proof.

Those ships look like they were made of wood. There is no way one should think that Sif's sword couldn't penetrate those ships.

Post proof or your speculation will be labeled as trolling and ignored.

Originally posted by juggerman
You are really reaching here. I guess Hela's blades explode on impact when connecting with wood now

Do you have any proof whatsoever that Sif's blades can do that or are you just pulling more nonsense out ya butt?

Did the ship Thor and company escape on also look like it was made out of wood when Hela impaled that too?

The original argument is that since Sif's sword penetrated the Destroyer (it actually went through a slit) then Hela's blades can too.

You are changing the goalposts. The argument is about penetration ability, not explosion ability.

For all we know those ships could have had engines or devices that explode if penetrated. Asgardians didn't explode, nor did anything else Hela hit her blades with.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Why are people still engaging H1's retardation here? It's obvious that he made up his mind about things before he even made the thread, and will just ignore whatever doesn't suit his agenda, while making things up along the way, and then expect other people to accept his bullshit at face value.

It's the same MO he has in every single thread he takes part in. He's nothing but a troll. He may lack the self-awareness to realise it, but it's plainly obvious to literally everyone else who interacts with him for any length of time. Even people who routinely disagree with each other agree on this.

Please stop flaming. Nothing I said is wrong here. Did you even read my posts THOROUGHLY?

You haven't posted any proof to back up your speculation, therefore it's being labeled as trolling, as such it's being ignored.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You haven't posted any proof to back up your speculation, therefore it's being labeled as trolling, as such it's being ignored.

If you think I made a legitimate claim that actually needs to be proven and I didn't then you are free to ignore the supposed claim.

Originally posted by h1a8
If you think I made a legitimate claim that actually needs to be proven and I didn't then you are free to ignore the supposed claim.


Are you illiterate?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Are you illiterate?

No! You used speculation as if it means claim. Speculation doesn't need to be proven. Otherwise it wouldn't be speculation.

When you're using speculation in a debate, it does need to be proven. Otherwise it gets labeled as trolling and ignored.

Originally posted by h1a8
1. Hela using only strength to crush Mjolnir is speculative as well. Is it irrelevant and must be ignored?

2. My mistake. I meant that she can't crush Mjolnir with strength alone.

1. Nope, it is called visual evidence. When you close your hand to crush something you use your strength.

Til you provide any evidence then that is the only fact we have.

Thus the only conclusion we can come to.

There is as much need for me to disprove your speculation as there is for me to disprove that I typed using anything other than my fingers on a keyboard/touchscreen.

2. Disprove this, til then it is fact: Hela has shown no powers other than strength that she can use to crush Mjolnir.

I am still laughing at the Asgardian ships are made from wood claim. Because wood produces screeching metal sounds and sparks when grinding against rock:

YqHxCdi4VhU

Originally posted by h1a8
My mistake. I meant that she can't crush Mjolnir with strength alone. This is a positive claim, you either prove it or it gets dismissed.

Originally posted by Nevan
This is a positive claim, you either prove it or it gets dismissed.

She showed no strength within 10% of crushing a peak Mjolnir with strength only. All of her showings show that she is far weaker.

Therefore it's either an outlier or its because she has ties to Mjolnir (like Odin did).

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I am still laughing at the Asgardian ships are made from wood claim. Because wood produces screeching metal sounds and sparks when grinding against rock:

YqHxCdi4VhU

In one scene they appear to be floating wooden boat like ships.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
1. Nope, it is called visual evidence. When you close your hand to crush something you use your strength.

Til you provide any evidence then that is the only fact we have.

Thus the only conclusion we can come to.

There is as much need for me to disprove your speculation as there is for me to disprove that I typed using anything other than my fingers on a keyboard/touchscreen.

2. Disprove this, til then it is fact: Hela has shown no powers other than strength that she can use to crush Mjolnir.

Mjolnir was once hers. She probably has ties to it.
If she used only strength to crush Mjolnir then it must be thrown out as an outlier. Just like supergirls key feat.

Originally posted by Silent Master
When you're using speculation in a debate, it does need to be proven. Otherwise it gets labeled as trolling and ignored.

If speculation is proven then it no longer is speculation.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
1. Nope, it is called visual evidence. When you close your hand to crush something you use your strength.

Til you provide any evidence then that is the only fact we have.

Thus the only conclusion we can come to.

There is as much need for me to disprove your speculation as there is for me to disprove that I typed using anything other than my fingers on a keyboard/touchscreen.

2. Disprove this, til then it is fact: Hela has shown no powers other than strength that she can use to crush Mjolnir.


H1 is not worthy of respect.

Kinda depends, Hela hasn't really shown to have the same kind of damage output that Thor has, besides crushing Mjolnir. And stabbing the Destroyer probably won't do anything. At best, it would probably be an endless stalemate, at worst Hela somehow shatters the Destroyer past the point it can repair itself.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Why are people still engaging H1's retardation here? It's obvious that he made up his mind about things before he even made the thread, and will just ignore whatever doesn't suit his agenda, while making things up along the way, and then expect other people to accept his bullshit at face value.

It's the same MO he has in every single thread he takes part in. He's nothing but a troll. He may lack the self-awareness to realise it, but it's plainly obvious to literally everyone else who interacts with him for any length of time. Even people who routinely disagree with each other agree on this.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Kinda depends, Hela hasn't really shown to have the same kind of damage output that Thor has, besides crushing Mjolnir. And stabbing the Destroyer probably won't do anything. At best, it would probably be an endless stalemate, at worst Hela somehow shatters the Destroyer past the point it can repair itself. Did you not see her attack Surtur? She was a lot more powerful than Thor. No question.

Originally posted by h1a8
If speculation is proven then it no longer is speculation.

As you have provided no proof, your speculation is being labeled as trolling, as such it will be ignored.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Kinda depends, Hela hasn't really shown to have the same kind of damage output that Thor has, besides crushing Mjolnir. And stabbing the Destroyer probably won't do anything. At best, it would probably be an endless stalemate, at worst Hela somehow shatters the Destroyer past the point it can repair itself.

I mean she could just palm the Destroyer beam and shove it back into its face (the same way Thor beat it) if she wanted.

Or cut it in half lengthwise.

Most likely she just smashes it with one of her giant necroswords.

Where is all this HeLa crushed Mjolnir due to magic/ties etc. Coming from? Theyre saying that shit on comic vine to and it makes no sense. We obviously see her clenching her hand and crushing it. There is no other explanation.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Where is all this HeLa crushed Mjolnir due to magic/ties etc. Coming from? Theyre saying that shit on comic vine to and it makes no sense. We obviously see her clenching her hand and crushing it. There is no other explanation.

It's coming from h1's imagination. at least he was the first poster on KMC that I heard say it.

She used to possess Mjolnir. For all we know she could have had control over Mjolnir as much as Odin did.

But even if we go with it being purely strength then it doesnt hold a lot of weight due to being an extreme outlier that contradicts every other strength showing.

And you have to prove that the Destroyer beam will not damage her Nibedicus.

H1 you never proven anything so why expect anyone else to do what you have never done.

Originally posted by h1a8
She used to possess Mjolnir. For all we know she could have had control over Mjolnir as much as Odin did.

But even if we go with it being purely strength then it doesnt hold a lot of weight due to being an extreme outlier that contradicts every other strength showing.

And you have to prove that the Destroyer beam will not damage her Nibedicus.

"For all we know" = I'm(h1) making things up.

Originally posted by h1a8
She used to possess Mjolnir. For all we know she could have had control over Mjolnir as much as Odin did.

But even if we go with it being purely strength then it doesnt hold a lot of weight due to being an extreme outlier that contradicts every other strength showing.

And you have to prove that the Destroyer beam will not damage her Nibedicus.


How is it an outlier? She manhandled Thor, somebody who has the best physical strength feat in the entire MCU, what contradicts it? Nobody was able to best her in strength? So please, explain how it is an outlier?

She never broke another magic hammer in the entire rest of the movie

^^ Damnit Nib, your monkey comment nearly made me choke on my coffee now.

Besides, we all know H1 is a math/physics genius, pro-level baseball player who can back catch 90+ mph fastballs, master martial artist trained in Kung Fu and wrestling, and all round physical powerhouse, who can easily bench hundreds of lbs of weight. At least according to some of his claims in the past.

I feel like monkeys everywhere deserve an apology.

Thor turned the Destroyer into scrap once he got his normal worthiness powers back in Thor 1.

Hela effortlessly stomped pre-third act Ragnarok super saiyan Thor.

Following that logic, Hela turns the Destroyer into a bucket of bolts.

Originally posted by John Murdoch
Thor turned the Destroyer into scrap once he got his normal worthiness powers back in Thor 1.

Hela effortlessly stomped pre-third act Ragnarok super saiyan Thor.

Following that logic, Hela turns the Destroyer into a bucket of bolts. Thor used Destroyer's own beams to do it.

Hela may or may not survive the beams, especially outside of Asgard.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor used Destroyer's own beams to do it.

Hela may or may not survive the beams, especially outside of Asgard.

Her hand durability outside of Asgard > Mjolnir.

Mjolnir > Destroyer beam.

She palms Destroyer beam and shoves it back into its face.

H1 getting raped by logic once more.

Does that mean Thor can also crush Mjolnir with his bare hands?

Originally posted by gauntlet o doom
Does that mean Thor can also crush Mjolnir with his bare hands? Hela completely overpowered Thor, so no.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor used Destroyer's own beams to do it.

Hela may or may not survive the beams, especially outside of Asgard.

You may or may not be a monkey.

Why are you all giving this retard the time lf day, 😂😂

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Her hand durability outside of Asgard > Mjolnir.

Mjolnir > Destroyer beam.

She palms Destroyer beam and shoves it back into its face.

Her hand isn't more durable than Mjolnir. An Asgardian sword would stab right through it.

And you must prove she can even think of such a tactic.

Originally posted by h1a8
Her hand isn't more durable than Mjolnir. An Asgardian sword would stab right through it.

And you must prove she can even think of such a tactic.

Can he use your standards for proof?

Originally posted by h1a8
1. Her hand isn't more durable than Mjolnir.

2. An Asgardian sword would stab right through it.

3. And you must prove she can even think of such a tactic.

1. I have direct proof that her hand > Mjolnir when she EASILY crushed it. Do you think a less durable object with far less thickness can easily crush a more durable object?

2. False Equivalence. An Asgardian sword can stab thru a lot of stuff. Do you have proof that Destroyer beam > Asgardian sword in terms of penetration?

3. Easy. She has been shown to catch/palm her opponent’s main attack (Mjolnir) to prove her superiority. She likes to show off. Catching the Destroyer beam with her palm is 100% in line with how she acts. It is not a difficult tactic to figure out if Thor managed to think of it.

If a kryptonian had done that to Mjolnir he would have claimed they casually crushed with the force of the big bang.

Yep, h1 would argue that the feat was done casually and thus their max strength would be at least 1000x higher. he might even argue that it's "possible" their magic weakness would make the feat more difficult. so their max strength would really be 10000x more.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
If a kryptonian had done that to Mjolnir he would have claimed they casually crushed with the force of the big bang.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
1. I have direct proof that her hand > Mjolnir when she EASILY crushed it. Do you think a less durable object with far less thickness can easily crush a more durable object?

2. False Equivalence. An Asgardian sword can stab thru a lot of stuff. Do you have proof that Destroyer beam > Asgardian sword in terms of penetration?

3. Easy. She has been shown to catch/palm her opponent’s main attack (Mjolnir) to prove her superiority. She likes to show off. Catching the Destroyer beam with her palm is 100% in line with how she acts. It is not a difficult tactic to figure out if Thor managed to think of it.

1. Wrong! The feat does not prove that her hand is more durable than Mjolnir.

2. An Asgardian sword can not stab through Mjolnir.

3. I disagree. She would try to use her cape (assuming it is effective). It's an extremely difficult tactic to figure out.

Well considering she probably ly knows much more about the destroyer than Thor I don't see why not...

And I kinda get the sword vs beam vs palm argument, they're all three different things though, kind of a rock paper scissors thing.

A sword could not cut through mjolnir, and I don't think she's more durable per second than mjolnir, her strength is just immense. I don't know, I'm not a science whiz. I have no idea how that shit works.

double post

H1 just got impaled by evidence, again.

Won't stop him

H1 is mentally challenged. Who cares if he continues to spout baseless shit. This has entertainment value.

Originally posted by h1a8
Fight is on a barren planet the size of Earth.
How would the fight go? Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Are you really repping an almost feat-less destroyer against Hela?

Originally posted by Nevan

There was even going to be a scene where Hela rips apart the Destroyer in Ragnarok.

https://screenrant.com/hela-destroyer-thor-ragnarok/


Funny how writers intentions only come into play when they suit h1a8.

Originally posted by quanchi112
H1 is mentally challenged. Who cares if he continues to spout baseless shit. This has entertainment value.

^ Well pretty ironic coming from Quan but whatever.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Well pretty ironic coming from Quan but whatever. Quit being a butthurt loser. I am right as rain.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am mentally challenged. Who cares if I continue to spout baseless shit. At least I provide entertainment value.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Another childish response from the guy who fled from https://media.giphy.com/media/4WiauCknqDqta/giphy.gif

Hela literally just has BFR him and the fight is over.

Prove that the Destroyers beams can damage her.

^^ That last post of H1 completely proves my earlier point. Doesn't care about people's arguments, actual onscreen evidence etc. Will just make shit up as he goes a long to suit his opinion, which was decided before even typing up the thread.

I'm gonna need you to go out and buy an Android you ****ing savage.

Reported for using ".

Also, the Destroyer has sharp protrusions

Prove that the beams will damage Hela.

I'm more interested to find out if Nibedicus went out and purchased another phone to appease H1.

lol it's a more probable outcome than H1 providing a proper argument for a change.

Well, just on the JJ thing. She has actually caused a relatively minor cut on her hand before, but it was rather self-inflicted when she punched a fist-sized hole in a concrete wall (something a single handgun round, for example, can't really do). So, not really conclusive, especially when she at another point punches a hole through the hood of a car without getting hurt.

But anyway, none of this matters. Different writers wrote those scenes. Just because one writer intends for one character to be able to do certain things while not being able to do others, does not mean it suddenly applies to a completely different writer and character.

H1 proving he is a waste of time. Still fun to abuse but the guy just knows baseless claims. It is who he is.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Well, just on the JJ thing. She has actually caused a relatively minor cut on her hand before, but it was rather self-inflicted when she punched a fist-sized hole in a concrete wall (something a single handgun round, for example, can't really do). So, not really conclusive, especially when she at another point punches a hole through the hood of a car without getting hurt.

But anyway, none of this matters. Different writers wrote those scenes. Just because one writer intends for one character to be able to do certain things while not being able to do others, does not mean it suddenly applies to a completely different writer and character.

So do you believe that she is bulletproof in a forum fight?

Accept the battlezone, h1.

Originally posted by h1a8
So do you believe that she is bulletproof in a forum fight?

No, and I never hinted or implied anything of the sort. I was simply pointing out that she has indeed injured her hands before, but that the feat on its own doesn't mean much either way. If you read anything else in my post, then I question your grasp of the English language.