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Alright lads, let's have some have some fun talking about who/what we voted for, and the results as they roll in.

STATE:

Notable Candidates I Voted For:

Notable Props/Measures I Voted For:

STATE: California

Notable Candidates I Voted For:
Governor: Gavin Newsome (ugh)
Senator: Kevin de Leon
Mayor: Pamela Price

Notable Props/Measures I Voted For:
No on Prop 5, **** old people
No on Prop 7, voted against California having DST year-round
Yes on prop 10, voted to allow rent control in more areas
Yes on Prop 11, voted for EMTs breaks to be considered on-duty and paid
No on prop 12, **** farm animals

Voted yes on a measure to give cannabis companies some tax relief
Voted yes to increase the minimum wage of hotel employees in Oakland

Also California.

I voted for Newsome even though he kinda rubs me the wrong way. Also voted for De Leon but sounds like he doesn't have much of a chance. Voted for Harley Rouda for congress.

As far as props, voted yes on Prop 1 and 2, yes on 10, yes on 12...voted to repeal the gas tax. Yes on 6. Maybe yes on 4? I don't remember which one that was and can't be bothered to look it up. Voted no on the rest.

Imagine being a serial killer pedophile, and still voting to make farms comfier for soon-to-be-slaughtered animals.

Sad!

Animals > humans

Originally posted by BackFire
Also California.

I voted for Newsome even though he kinda rubs me the wrong way. Also voted for De Leon but sounds like he doesn't have much of a chance. Voted for Harley Rouda for congress.

As far as props, voted yes on Prop 1 and 2, yes on 10, yes on 12...voted to repeal the gas tax. Yes on 6. Maybe yes on 4? I don't remember which one that was and can't be bothered to look it up. Voted no on the rest.

We're pretty close. Though I voted to keep the gas tax, our roads need it, even though I realize bureaucracy will likely just eat up the money while here I go again, hitting a pothole.

Newsome will be president in the not so far off future, so get used to him rubbing you more.

I illegally immigrated to the US just to vote for the orange party. Orange man good.

I don't think Newsome will ever be president. He lacks the charisma that is required these days and comes off as snobby. I think my girl Kamala Harris has a much better chance than he does.

Originally posted by BackFire
I don't think Newsome will ever be president. He lacks the charisma that is required these days and comes off as snobby. I think my girl Kamala Harris has a much better chance than he does.

I think you're severely underestimating the racism and sexism in US politics; she has both going against her. Though if (when) Trump's policies get the US is the biggest recession, depression shithole come 2020ish, that would be the perfect political enough-is-enough environment for a woman of color to become President.

But I'd vote for Kamala Harris if she made the ticket.

Originally posted by Robtard
Though I voted to keep the gas tax, our roads need it, even though I realize bureaucracy will likely just eat up the money while here I go again, hitting a pothole. I'm in the same boat, not just for prop 6 but for a lot of the bonds and tax increase shit. I don't mind paying high taxes at all honestly, it burns my ass that the state will for sure mismanage all that extra money and we'll never see most of it get put to any decent use, though. It's the harsh duality of taxes. I wish there was a way (or that I knew of a way) to see a more comprehensive plan for how and in what manner extra tax income will be used for. "This gives us an extra 100 million to fix bridges and improve water quality". Okay, but how? What specific pieces of infrastructure will be built or renovated, and by whom? There should be a much more comprehensive sales pitch for my money.

Newsom is shit and I hate the Republicans for giving me no better alternative. Overall the choices of this election feel really bitter sweet.

edit- What'd you vote on the DST prop, Rob?

The wording seemed strange, but I voted No on 7. I'd like DST to end.

Also not sure how that would work? California time doesn't change while the rest of the states is our timezone do? Seems like it'd need to be an all or nothing, no?

STATE: Canada

Notable Candidates I Voted For: All the nice people down at the government hoose.

Notable Props/Measures I Voted For: Proposition Everyone Have a Great Day, okie doke?

Everyone go out and vote for Sam Hyde, lets take back the country.

Voted yes to require a public thingee to sell off parts of CT land, and also voted yes to use transportation funds for transportation, period, and to require funds for the purpose.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
STATE: California

Notable Candidates I Voted For:
Governor: Gavin Newsome (ugh)
Senator: Kevin de Leon
Mayor: Pamela Price

Notable Props/Measures I Voted For:
No on Prop 5, **** old people
No on Prop 7, voted against California having DST year-round
Yes on prop 10, voted to allow rent control in more areas
Yes on Prop 11, voted for EMTs breaks to be considered on-duty and paid
No on prop 12, **** farm animals

Voted yes on a measure to give cannabis companies some tax relief
Voted yes to increase the minimum wage of hotel employees in Oakland

No prop to bring back California Dream Barbie?

Originally posted by Robtard
The wording seemed strange, but I voted No on 7. I'd like DST to end.

Also not sure how that would work? California time doesn't change while the rest of the states is our timezone do? Seems like it'd need to be an all or nothing, no? That's the conclusion I came to as well. It'd be just California.

https://www.ballot.fyi/prop-7

Originally posted by Tzeentch
That's the conclusion I came to as well. It'd be just California.

https://www.ballot.fyi/prop-7

Ah, I see.

Can't wait for the blue wave of HIV+ needles and drag queen wigs to rain down on me. Let's go Dems.

Thanks, Tzeentch, for the thread.



So far, 42 out of 100 senate seats already declared for the GOP. 23 declared for Democrats.1 Independent.

Assuming the remaining seats are 50-50 split, that would mean 17 more seats for each side.

59 seats for the GOP.

40 seats for the Dems.

But that's assuming the remaining seats are 50-50 split.


Current Control:

Majority Party: Republican (54 seats)
Minority Party: Democrat (44 seats)
Other Parties: 2 Independents (both caucus with the Democrats)
Total Seats: 100


This would point to more seats being won by the GOP. What am I missing? What's going on with the senate?



House currently sites at 9 Dems, 10 GOP. Much closer race it would seems.

It's still going to be close though. But yeah there was no chance of a 'Blue Wave' anyway.

DeSantis has got it

O'Rourke is doing a lot better than I expected in Texas, he's leading by over 100,000 votes with about half the votes counted.

Also Florida is absurdly close, as usual.

Cruz is just so unlikeable. Beto doesn't have a hope of winning though tbh, even with his pandering to minorities/pretending to be one himself.

Yeah Cruz is catching up now.

What site are you using? I think there's a delay on Fox so I'm switching between them and NYT. Texas keeps changing after every refresh.

menendez wins in nj. trigger time yet?

Senate really isn't looking good for the dems right now.

I'm seeing it much much closer, now, on the live updates. 46 GOP, 40 Dems.

Wait, another place shows 37 46.


https://www.politico.com/election-results/2018/

Politico says GOP is up net 1 seat which is the opposite of a blue wave.

But House is showing a net gain of 2 seats for dems. Could be a slight net gain for Dems in the House.

Republicans have 46% chance to keep the House now.

I am definitely expecting the GOP to overall win out by the end of this.

My statement about Dems being professional losers stands, imo. They talk a great game but they don't show out when the time comes.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
I am definitely expecting the GOP to overall win out by the end of this.

My statement about Dems being professional losers stands, imo. They talk a great game but they don't show out when the time comes.

According the the early voting stats, it's because a SHIT load of young liberal voters registered: by record numbers.

But they had the same turnout as they always do.


Like you said, it's a nice talk, but Dems just don't go the polls on election day.

Yeah this is always why the polls are wrong. Actual turnout is important.

Bernie dominating Vermont. Can't help but like the guy tbh, even if he's a huge sellout/hypocrite.

Honestly, I'd like one party to get a super majority for about 4 years.

Clearly, I'd like it to be Dems because I want UHC and things that I definitely will not get from the GOP. But I am curious how far the GOP would take things if they had the super majority. I just want genuine change to happen.


My guess is there would be fracturing if one party got a super majority. Moderates, conservatives, or progressives would break away from party lines. I'm guessing it would be the death of the other party and the new party fracturing. Or the birth of a new party.

Mike Braun dominating, wow. Dems on suicide watch.

O'Rourke back ahead in Texas by over 100k votes with about 70% of the vote in.

Originally posted by RealistRacism
Mike Braun dominating, wow. Dems on suicide watch.

Not so surprising to me. Perhaps to the weirdly and constantly inaccurate pollsters.


But he's a former democrat. So he should have the appeal of a moderate and a conservative going for him since he ran a decent campaign.



I tried not to pay attention to the polls until yesterday.

inb4 Cruz blames voter fraud

If he loses he should blame his personality.

Yeah for real. I can't think of anyone more fake and unlikeable.

Originally posted by BackFire
Senate really isn't looking good for the dems right now.

the latinos in my appartment building are partying rn

Originally posted by BackFire
O'Rourke back ahead in Texas by over 100k votes with about 70% of the vote in.

72% in, now. Votes are only 23k apart, now. That's an absurdly close race.


Was it predicted to be this close of a race?

According to CNN there are currently 31 GOP house seats where the Dem is currently leading. If those hold then that would be enough for the Dems would take the house, that's a big if right now though.

Originally posted by dadudemon
72% in, now. Votes are only 23k apart, now. That's an absurdly close race.


Was it predicted to be this close of a race?

No. Cruz could still pull away, or Rourke could, depending on where the remaining votes are from. I think in polling Cruz was ahead by the high single digits.

It was supposed to be fairly close, with Cruz obviously taking it. But now it's looking really tight.

Originally posted by BackFire
No. Cruz could still pull away, or Rourke could, depending on where the remaining votes are from. I think in polling Cruz was ahead by the high single digits.

Gotta say...Cruz gives me the Hillary-vibe. A slimy liar that's a massive hypocrite that will say anything to win. I hope he loses.

Looks like the GOP will probably gain 3-5 seats in the Senate.

Yeah, Cruz showing only 5k votes away from Beto.

Originally posted by BackFire
Looks like the GOP will probably gain 3-5 seats in the Senate.

Gain? Politico is showing only 1 gain. Who is calling it so soon?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Gain? Politico is showing only 1 gain. Who is calling it so soon?

Me. Florida is probably going red.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Gotta say...Cruz gives me the Hillary-vibe. A slimy liar that's a massive hypocrite that will say anything to win. I hope he loses.
Agree 100%. I'm only rooting for him because Trump could whip him into line really easily, Cruz is essentially Donald's lapdog now.

Dems now have 4 pickups in the house.

Originally posted by BackFire
Me. Florida is probably going red.


lol, you're doing better than CBS where they are talking about women taking seats because "we need women in congress" when less than 8% of precincts are reporting on the seat in question.

That kind of gives me the creeps when they do that. It's highly suspect and manipulative but it's really not fooling most people watching.

They gotta talk about something, and them saying "we don't know what's happening" isn't going to get many viewers.

Originally posted by BackFire
They gotta talk about something, and them saying "we don't know what's happening" isn't going to get many viewers.


True. But CBS seems to favor the Dems far too obviously. It's like a Dem propaganda machine. They downplay GOP leads and wins and talk mostly about Dem leads.

I guess that's Trump's fault?

I swear to god every election some pundit says "We're seeing the remaking of the American political map".

Lyin' Ted leading again

Originally posted by BackFire
I swear to god every election some pundit says "We're seeing the remaking of the American political map".


It's technically true almost every time. Just very small changes, usually,

Originally posted by BackFire
I swear to god every election some pundit says "We're seeing the remaking of the American political map". This is why I should not have been sucked into this madness. My hatred of trump drew me in.

Dems picked up a couple more GOP seats. Now only need 17.

Dems at a very high chance to take it now.

Betting Odds have Dems at 91%

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is why I should not have been sucked into this madness. My hatred of trump drew me in.

I've cooled off my anti-Trump hate lately. It got me nowhere. And he's not going anywhere. I thought he'd be impeached and we'd be discussing removal proceedings at this point in his term.


Clearly, that's not happening. He will likely win re-election in 2020 unless someone brings the heat and smacks down Trump during the general election.

Looks to me we may see that "blue wave" in the house but the opposite in the Senate, kinda bizarre, wonder if that's ever happened before.

ROCKSTAR ROMNEY WINS THE SENATE, BOW IN FEAR, MORTALS.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I've cooled off my anti-Trump hate lately. It got me nowhere. And he's not going anywhere. I thought he'd be impeached and we'd be discussing removal proceedings at this point in his term.


Clearly, that's not happening. He will likely win re-election in 2020 unless someone brings the heat and smacks down Trump during the general election. I agree I usually do not let politics infest my emotions. I voted this is beyond my control and I am annoyed.

Originally posted by BackFire
Looks to me we may see that "blue wave" in the house but the opposite in the Senate, kinda bizarre, wonder if that's ever happened before.

Honestly...I don't recall this happening before. I remember something like this almost happening around Bush Sr.'s time when I was a kid.

Let me do some googling...feels familiar but I do recall it not happening at the end of the day.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I agree I usually do not let politics infest my emotions. I voted this is beyond my control and I am annoyed.

Bleh...can't do anything about it except be as influential as possible with your family and friends.


Or you could f*cking do something about it and run for office. I'd vote for you.

With Nancy Pelosi as Speaker, everyone will regret their decision and Republicans will own the House next time.

Dems win the governorship in Kansas, dunno if that's a surprise or not, but seems kinda surprising to me.

Found a page for it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Political_power_in_the_United_States_over_time#Con
trol_of_United_States_Congress



Seems the situation Backfire and I are talking about has never happened before.


GOP controlled senate and Dem controlled house.


With a significant control of the senate to the GOP.



This is a weird contrast never seen before.



This is interesting hell.

Originally posted by BackFire
Dems win the governorship in Kansas, dunno if that's a surprise or not, but seems kinda surprising to me. The nation is very unpredictable and divided.

Headline on on Politico:


"Democrats on track to take House, GOP to hold Senate"


No, that's not accurate.


This is more accurate:

"Democrats on track to take House, GOP on track to gain more in Senate"

More gains in the house for the dems. Now only need 11 more republican seats, with the entire west coast still to come. Looking very good for the dems taking the house by possibly a very significant margin.

Not really a blue wave though.

Depends on your definition of a wave.

Showed 11 seats gained for dems on politico.

But now showing 9.


Things seem to be closer than projected so they are having to adjust numbers.

538 now have a 90% chance for the dems to take the house, was like 55% an hour ago.

Originally posted by BackFire
Depends on your definition of a wave.


A net gain of 31 house seats is definitely a blue wave and anyone denying that would have to be an idiot.


If they really do get a net gain of 31 seats, that's a solid blue wave.


Don't make me bust out statistical power tests to prove 31 blue seats is a statistically significant event. uhuh

Originally posted by RealistRacism
Not really a blue wave though.


No knock against you, dude.

It's not at 31 net gained seats, yet. 11 net gained seats is not a blue wave.

CNN's forecast guy (lol) says that the dems are on pace to get anywhere between 230-238 seats in the house.

CBS is calling it for Cruz, now. They have him as the winner. But only 80% reported...

I guess the remaining precincts are Cruz-favoring so they can call it based on their projections.

Kinda surprised CBS is calling it already. From what they just showed on CNN there are still a lot of votes left to count in heavily blue counties.

Senate seat in Mississippi called for Wicker (R). So we are starting to see closure on the senate races. Hoping they wrap up most, soon.

Also Dem is doing well in Arizona, that could flip blue. Kyrsen Sinema, also she's pretty hot, looks like a sexy librarian. Would bang.

Originally posted by BackFire
Also Dem is doing well in Arizona, that could flip blue. Kyrsen Sinema, also she's pretty hot, looks like a sexy librarian. Would bang.

lol

She looks like a librarian MILF, for sure.


Wait a minute...

Dude, we are getting old. Now we are talking about MILFs we'd like to bang.

I've always liked milfs, dude.

CBS still has Cruz marked as the winner.


And the gap has increased to 150k+ for Cruz.

I guess they were right? I still feel it is too early to call if that many blue and purple precincts left to report in.

According to 538, the last time something similar to this has happened was in 1984, when the dems gained senate seats but lost house seats.

NBC is calling the House for the dems. Bit early.

I'm honestly just going to wait until tomorrow. It's all over the place, but I highly doubt Dems get 230+ seats tbh.

GOP officially now has control of the senate, still 12 seats are open, will probably gain more.

Originally posted by BackFire
GOP officially now has control of the senate, still 12 seats are open, will probably gain more.

I wonder if my prediction becomes correct. hmm

Originally posted by BackFire
According to 538, the last time something similar to this has happened was in 1984, when the dems gained senate seats but lost house seats.

Yeah...this is not common. According to Wiki, it's never been lopsided like this, the control of House and Senate.

Originally posted by RealistRacism
I'm honestly just going to wait until tomorrow. It's all over the place, but I highly doubt Dems get 230+ seats tbh.

Goodnight.


Thanks for posting in our "chatroom", though.

That's why I don't see it as a Blue Wave... If the Republicans made gains in the Senate, you can't really say there was some sweeping Liberal movement across the country. If the Dems do get 230+ seats (doubtful) then you can call it a pretty big win.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Goodnight.


Thanks for posting in our "chatroom", though.
Can't tell if sarcasm laced with contempt or genuine. Either way, have a good night

Originally posted by RealistRacism
Can't tell if sarcasm laced with contempt or genuine. Either way, have a good night

Serious. My genuineness is often mistaken as sarcasm quite often. I don't know how to make you believe me...

I honestly enjoyed your posts. And it's just us in the this "chatroom" we started.

She lost? Good, piss on her.

538 now calling the house for the dems. Still all of California to count and something like 8 potential pickups here alone.

538's real time projection gives dems a +35 seat change in the house, and the gop a +2 in the senate.

Just changed lol. +37 for dems in the house and +3 for gop in the senate.

2020 the senate will flip to Blue. With Trump likely leaving as well.

Alexandria Ocasio Cortez won her race, becoming youngest woman ever elected to Congress.

Yes, multiple places now projecting Dem house flip. Seems like a done deal. I think I am ready to stop following these things and call it a night, as well.

Originally posted by BackFire
Alexandria Ocasio Cortez won her race, becoming youngest woman ever elected to Congress.

That's pretty good, actually. I like this outcome. Sure, she's a bit of an idiot. But I like where her heart is.

Also apparently a Breaking Bad movie is in production.

Dammit...Walter White died. How could there be a movie?

Rumors suggest a movie following Jesse after the events of the show.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Sure, she's a bit of an idiot.

So presidential material, you say.

Wow I didn't realize that there are some states with only one member of the house of representatives, I thought they all had multiple.

So by my estimation, the GOP will end up with 53-55 senate seats. That's fairly significant, but in the end Trump's legislative agenda is finished. With a democratic house he will be unable to attempt a repeal the ACA again, the wall is gone, and pretty much everything else he wants to do besides maybe infrastructure is not in the cards.

If Trump was smart (he's not) he would make sincere attempts to work with the dems on infrastructure and figure out ways to actually improve the health care in this country without sacrificing the extremely popular and necessary protections the ACA brought along, which could end up actually making him a lot more popular with all these suburban people who revolted against him tonight and gave the house to the dems, rather than continuing to ***** and moan about scary mexicans.

So now that the wall is pretty much assured to not happen I wonder I people will calm down a bit and just wait out Trump's term for the next two years provided there isn't anything else extreme.

By that time I hope that both parties...or even an Independent candidate can make changes so that there's an election to at least pretend to look forward to.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
So now that the wall is pretty much assured to not happen I wonder I people will calm down a bit and just wait out Trump's term for the next two years provided there isn't anything else extreme.

By that time I hope that both parties...or even an Independent candidate can make changes so that there's an election to at least pretend to look forward to.

Lol what country have you been living in? Democrats will try to obstruct now more than ever. We will have endless trials, the country will be divided more because they are *still* butthurt over 2016.

There was no blue wave here(even CNN has admitted this) and what they wanted(and expected) was a blue wave.

Imagine lacking enough self-awareness to be assblasted by the opposing party doing obstructionism when your party did the exact same thing when it was in power for like 6 years.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
Imagine lacking enough self-awareness to be assblasted by the opposing party doing obstructionism when your party did the exact same thing when it was in power for like 6 years.

Imagine being you and talking about others lacking self awareness.

But your "No you!" has been noted.

I'd love to see what holes you can poke in any statements or claims I've made. I'll wait.

Originally posted by Surtur
Imagine being you and talking about others lacking self awareness.

But your "No you!" has been noted. I like how you responded with a "no u" by saying it was Blax in fact who lacked self-awareness and not you, and then dismissed his own comment as a "no u". Actually laughed, gj.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
I'd love to see what holes you can poke in any statements or claims I've made. I'll wait.

Easily: I've admitted before that Republicans have obstructed in the past, including the Garland thing.

Your response acts like I'm oblivious to this, I am not. Do better next time.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I like how you responded with a "no u" by saying it was Blax in fact who lacked self-awareness and not you, and then dismissed his own comment as a "no u". Actually laughed, gj.

That was kinda the point

Looks like Dems will probably flip Heller's Senate seat in Nevada.

Originally posted by BackFire
Looks like Dems will probably flip Heller's Senate seat in Nevada.

Seems like it's going as some predicted, Republicans lose House and keep Senate.

Beto dropped an F bomb in his concession speech, lol.

Yep, Dems really had no real shot at the Senate, this map was ridiculously favorable for the gop, at this point the dems just need to halt the bleeding for potential gains in 2020, which is more favorable to them.

Still, Trump's agenda is largely DOA now, and there is now checks and balances upon his presidency, he'll have to adjust to avoid being a lame duck. Also this provides protections for Mueller, for if Trump were to fire Mueller, the Democratic house could simply rehire him and he could continue his investigation until completion.

On the flip side, with the GOP expanding their majority in the Senate they will have an easier time appointing judges and what not.

Originally posted by BackFire
Yep, Dems really had no real shot at the Senate, this map was ridiculously favorable for the gop, at this point the dems just need to halt the bleeding for potential gains in 2020, which is more favorable to them.

Still, Trump's agenda is largely DOA now, and there is now checks and balances upon his presidency, he'll have to adjust to avoid being a lame duck. Also this provides protections for Mueller, for if Trump were to fire Mueller, the Democratic house could simply rehire him and he could continue his investigation until completion.

On the flip side, with the GOP expanding their majority in the Senate they will have an easier time appointing judges and what not.

And impeachment goes through the senate if I remember correctly...

Yes. House could impeach but it won't really do anything without the Senate, it'll more or less be like Clinton, the house impeached him but he remained president. More or less just symbolic.

Also it'll be interesting to see if Pelosi is actually able to gain the speakership, there are a lot of the new democratic congress members who have said they won't vote for her.

Originally posted by BackFire
Yes. House could impeach but it won't really do anything without the Senate, it'll more or less be like Clinton, the house impeached him but he remained president. More or less just symbolic.

And I'm guessing if Dems try to subpoena folk and Repubs resist it could end up in the supreme courts...which Republicans control lol.

Originally posted by Surtur
Your response acts like I'm oblivious to this, I am not. Do better next time. Wrong, it acts like you're being a whiny ***** with a sore ass, which you are.

"The dems will be obstructionist because they're butthurt about 2016" is a retarded sour grapes statement. It is the job of the opposition party to oppose.

Best we can hope for how is that the people will finally see how NPC SJW STD the Left Really are and will get them selves voted out of office entirely next time.

Sadly the U.S People are being dumbed down by the Horrible Left now.. They are truly poisoning everything they touch.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
Wrong, it acts like you're being a whiny ***** with a sore ass, which you are.

"The dems will be obstructionist because they're butthurt about 2016" is a retarded sour grapes statement. It is the job of the opposition party to oppose.

No, it's a factual statement. Opposition is not obstruction. Thanks for playing.

Originally posted by Surtur
And I'm guessing if Dems try to subpoena folk and Repubs resist it could end up in the supreme courts...which Republicans control lol.

Yeah I don't really know how any of that stuff works. I did hear something earlier that implied that the powers of House investigations are pretty explicitly spelled out in the constitution. If so, the supreme court wouldn't help the gop much there, unless they explicitly ignore the constitution.

Also we'll likely see Trump's long talked about tax returns now.

Nice result, I look forward to seeing this admin implode over the next few years before spluttering out in 2020. Sad but unsurprising to see the Little Donnie and his supporters in denial about the outcome.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Nice result, I look forward to seeing this admin implode over the next few years before spluttering out in 2020. Sad but unsurprising to see the Little Donnie and his supporters in denial about the outcome.

Almost reminds me of people crying and screaming "not my president".

Reminds me of how the British Government Lied to its people and went against their votes in the whole Brexit deal.

Corruption is on the Rise. Thanks Democrats.

I can't help noticing that it seems any democrat in red states that voted against Kavanaugh lost...while Joe Manchin held on lol.

Funny how that works out.

Originally posted by Surtur
Almost reminds me of people crying and screaming "not my president". Nah, I don't remember any democrats pretending they had won. Originally posted by Flyattractor
Reminds me of how the British Government Lied to its people and went against their votes in the whole Brexit deal.

Corruption is on the Rise. Thanks Democrats. #Impeach #LockHimUp

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Nah, I don't remember any democrats pretending they had won. #Impeach #LockHimUp

Really, you don't remember all those people that went around bragging about how Hillary won the popular vote?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Nah, I don't remember any democrats pretending they had won. #Impeach #LockHimUp

That is what the British People should have done to their elected Officials. I quite agree on that.

Beni going full cringe... Now that Dems have won the House, they'll stall the President with infinite investigations and blame the lack of results on the GOP. From here on out the framing is crucial, as the next election is basically going to be determined by who gets the blame for the inevitable stagnation. Thankfully, no one is better at deflection and redirection than Donald Trump.

If I were Trump I would not be filled with confidence for 2020 because of these results. GOP lost tonight in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennylvania, which Trump won in 2016. If everything else about the electoral map stays the same, and he loses those three states, he will lose the presidency.

I'm still somewhat confident because the Dem's lack any decent Candidate to take him on. Trump really goes hard in debates and he's an absolute workhorse on the Campaign trail, so expect things to pick up as soon as 2020 comes around. Of course there's no guarantee, but the only candidates who could've threatened him (Bernie and Biden) are almost in a coffin, so it's looking good for now.

Bernie and Biden are only a few years older than Trump and in much better shape, and it sounds like they'll both run.

As is often the case, though, I think the person who ends up with the nomination may be someone who we don't see coming, like with Obama in 2008 and Trump in 2016. We'll see.

This election tonight shows one major thing. Trump is still very very popular in deep red states, and his popularity seems to be waning in other areas that were not long ago reliably red.

The people never voted for the right and now they have seen the division Trump has caused and the fullness he has propagated they are mobilising. A reckoning will take place, the scum will be held accountable. It will all become History in time.

Trump is a unit, he'll live until he's 100. Bernie and Trump should run together, that'd be my dream. Mainly for the Trade stuff, I want endless Tariffs on foreign goods

Originally posted by Surtur
No, it's a factual statement. Opposition is not obstruction. When it's the GOP doing it. Right.
Originally posted by RealistRacism
Beni going full cringe... Now that Dems have won the House, they'll stall the President with infinite investigations and blame the lack of results on the GOP. From here on out the framing is crucial, as the next election is basically going to be determined by who gets the blame for the inevitable stagnation. Thankfully, no one is better at deflection and redirection than Donald Trump. Framing doesn't matter because people don't care. Obama spent almost 8 years complaining about the "do-nothing-Congress" and the overall obstruction from the GOP, but when elections came around none of that mattered and Obama is to this day considered a lame-duck President by many.

The truth is, people complain about the constant political deadlock and lack of bipartisanship, but the President will always be held to a higher level of scrutiny then house reps, senators or congressmen. The average American just does not have enough of an understanding of political nuance to grasp that the President is not a strong-man who can point his fingers and make laws magically spring into existence.

I too am confident that Trump will win re-election, though. His administration being reigned in by the Dems will actually count against them in 2020 imo, because he won't be allowed to say and do as much stupid shit which means the democrat base won't be as energized. We are still our worst enemy imo

Dems won't stop him from saying the same stupid shit as he always does.

Also the entire American political system is based around gridlock and ensuring it is very difficult to make any significant changes to anything, it's intentionally that way, it's not an accident.

Indeed. It's just another layer of checks and balances.

'Stupid shit' being either bait or simple, hilarious rhetoric.

Simple, yes. Hilarious, don't think so. The man has the wit of a crumbled brick.

Nah, some of his best zingers were delivered on the spot during the debates. He's definitely in on the joke, he knows he's a meme, and he continues with that because he's a top-tier troll. I can't fathom how stupid one must be to believe Trump just fluked everything and he, along with all his supporters, are just a bunch of dumb hicks. He knows what he's doing.

Originally posted by RealistRacism
Nah, some of his best zingers were delivered on the spot during the debates. He's definitely in on the joke, he knows he's a meme, and he continues with that because he's a top-tier troll. I can't fathom how stupid one must be to believe Trump just fluked everything and he, along with all his supporters, are just a bunch of dumb hicks. He knows what he's doing. TI maybe DP Definately

let the coping begin