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Luke Skywalker running away and hiding on an island because he tried to kill his nephew
Holdo using a hyperspace ramming move that for some reason everybody doesn't use to end every space battle ever
Rose "saving" Finn by ramming into him which would have doomed the Resistance were it not for Luke's projection showing up
The Casino scene
Poe making a your momma joke
f*cking ww2 style vertical drop bombers
Snoke dying like a pathetic loser
The New Republic suddenly dying in like 24 hours and everything going back to square 1
Holdo hiding a secret plan and instigating a mutiny
Rey magically knowing how to do everything for no reason
Other (elaborate)

canto bight
luke dying for no reason



everything else

I think the NR being destroyed, Rose 'saving' Finn(along with that horribly timed line and kiss) and the momma joke are top 3.

At least for me, those just feel so very out of place. The bombers while bad, I see it as "use what you have" kinda thing since the Resistance didn't seem all that big with tech other than the Raddus.

The others are bad, but not in the way I see those 3 top for me.

Snoke dying in which a pathetic way.

Rose Tico's fat face

Originally posted by Zenwolf
I think the NR being destroyed, Rose 'saving' Finn(along with that horribly timed line and kiss) and the momma joke are top 3.

At least for me, those just feel so very out of place. The bombers while bad, I see it as "use what you have" kinda thing since the Resistance didn't seem all that big with tech other than the Raddus.

The others are bad, but not in the way I see those 3 top for me.

Originally posted by RealistRacism
Rose Tico's fat face

Holdo's hollow sunken face was pretty bad too.

https://nefchronicles.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/like-my-father-before-me.gif






Oops, different character

Do apparently journalists were felt under pressure to say they liked TLJ when they did not.

https://youtu.be/gndkchEvep4

No surprise to me tbh, but glad someone is speaking out about it.

Im sure it was the same for TFA.

Originally posted by RealistRacism
Rose Tico's fat face

Chances of Episode 9 being great are pretty slim, given the set up. Its just gonna conclude pretty much the same as ROTJ.

The silver lining is that then they can move onto something different.

Abrams does visuals very well and his action sequences are very well done. If you doubt me fight me. I look forward to Kylo being an absolute terror combat wise in this film. You heard it here first, naysayers aka D. Thor.

Really should stop jumping the gun.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Really should stop jumping the gun. Have a little faith in
https://i.gifer.com/3xbv.gif

Imagine a list of everything wrong with TFA and TLJ. That would have to be an essay.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Have a little faith in
https://i.gifer.com/3xbv.gif


Your boys at Disney gotta buy out the critics


https://youtu.be/6oYdHeAnuBM


Shameful.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Your boys at Disney gotta buy out the critics


https://youtu.be/6oYdHeAnuBM


Shameful. Oh quit with your conspiracy theories. You are so easily suggestible. TLJ deliervere for me and Abrams is fantastic. I look forward to the end.

^ Lol it WAS a conspiracy theory of mine. But now Kyle Newman has confirmed the obvious.

Quit crying. Disney is the local bully. Shameful.

^ Yeah it is pretty shocking when you think about it.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Lol it WAS a conspiracy theory of mine. But now Kyle Newman has confirmed the obvious.

Quit crying. Disney is the local bully. Shameful. So you believe they are so powerful they ought all the critics and expect to be taken seriously. You are so guideline and naive you make my skin crawl. You hate Disney I get it. When the film comes out and you it is awesome I will not hear it coming from you.

Kyle Newman has confirmed it.

You denying it wont change that.

Kinda obvious though the way critics could never spot the blatant in your face faults of the ST.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Kyle Newman has confirmed it.

You denying it wont change that.

Kinda obvious though the way critics could never spot the blatant in your face faults of the ST. No, that is absurd. You can believe a whack job just manipulating your emotions into being manipulated while I will laugh at you over here from the world of the sane and reasonable.


No, your feelings are just too hard for you to logically assess anything Star Wars related.

Oh Kyle Newmans a whack job now?

Sure thing loser. Keep bending over for them.

At least the critics and journalists get some benefits to bending over. You just seem to like it anal.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Oh Kyle Newmans a whack job now?

Sure thing loser. Keep bending over for them.

At least the critics and journalists get some benefits to bending over. You just seem to like it anal. Saying they paid off every single critic is batshit crazy. You are one of those conspiracy theorists who are manipulated.

My favorite company due to giving me great films. You hate em. Double the fun for me.

Butthurt much? Nah Newman is sound as a source.

Keep bending over.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Butthurt much? Nah Newman is sound as a source.

Keep bending over. You did not have faith in the dceu or Star Wars. Noted. Faireweather paranoid naysayer confirmed. You just want to quit at the first sign of adversity.

^ Having multiple meltdowns today since you learned no one really likes TLJ.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Having multiple meltdowns today since you learned no one really likes TLJ. I loved it. Lots of people loved it. Kmc does not represent the masses, pretender.

Do you guys remember when Star Wars was fun? And wasn't at the mercy of internet rage mobs?

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Do you guys remember when Star Wars was fun? And wasn't at the mercy of internet rage mobs?

That was a long time ago....In a galaxy far far away

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Do you guys remember when Star Wars was fun? And wasn't at the mercy of internet rage mobs?

Yep I feel like it's karma honestly.

The entire Holdo vs Poe subplot was retarded, and both sides of that conflict acted retarded.

Thinking about it, Poe was annoying the entire film, from his banter with Hux to the very end. A real 180 from how cool he was in TFA. Johnson basically assassinated his character.

Hux being nothing but comic relief the entire film- the FO being incompetent the entire film. The Resistance being incompetent the entire film.

Rose' character and arc was boring and contrived. Her romance with Finn felt forced.

What burns my ass about this movie is that there were glimpses of promising stuff. The film was beautiful, with some really amazing visuals. I'm probably the only one who thinks that Luke's death was fine and a fitting end to the character (it was everything before that point that was a mess). The potential was there, but Rian was too desperate to subvert the setting at every chance he got.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Do you guys remember when Star Wars was fun? And wasn't at the mercy of internet rage mobs? I do. That said I also remember making an account here as a wide-eyed thirteen year old fresh with the glow of Revenge of the Sith' release, and being introduced to you and the other forum regulars relentlessly complaining about the prequels and the EU at every possible moment.

Nothing changes.

TLJ criticism has become almost as cringe as the movie itself. People on both sides have now been reduced to just regurgitating talking points from shit articles and youtube videos. With that said, the movie is objectively bad, and anyone who still enjoys it should just admit this is the case and move on.

Also, the Star Wars brand is always going to sell, so the argument that it's good because it made a lot of money is just ridiculous.

Did Solo sell or flop?

An exception to the rule, fan fatigue perhaps. If that's how you want to play it Quan, the proper Episodes will always sell, with the side-movies being a little less consistent.

Originally posted by RealistRacism
An exception to the rule, fan fatigue perhaps. If that's how you want to play it Quan, the proper Episodes will always sell, with the side-movies being a little less consistent. I agree but the notion anything Star Wars related sells is done. Star Wars is not even the biggest franchise out there anymore. Nothing is bullet proof.


I also swear TLJ is objectively wonderful but arguing subjectivity is for the geeks out there. We are just nerds.

It doesn't have to be the biggest. It's a famous title and the concept of 'space adventures' appeals to almost everyone.

Do you think it's a good movie for us nerds then? Because I sure as hell don't. Maybe it's a decent film for the normie crowd, but is that a good thing...? Disney have abandoned their dedicated SW audience for this milque-toast, cliche adventure film imo

Originally posted by RealistRacism
It doesn't have to be the biggest. It's a famous title and the concept of 'space adventures' appeals to almost everyone.

Do you think it's a good movie for us nerds then? Because I sure as hell don't. Maybe it's a decent film for the normie crowd, but is that a good thing...? Disney have abandoned their dedicated SW audience for this milque-toast, cliche adventure film imo It has a built in fanbase and is well known so it has advantages but as I said just because Avengers Infinity War did well does not mean Ant Man 2 even sniffed a billion. The idea matters a lot these days surrounding these brands. There is a lot of competition these days which was not the case in the past.


For me it was for you it was not. Just because we disagree it is still an opinion either way. I think TPM was sub par and Aotc was weak but that did not stop rots from being great to me. If you did not like it fine but that has no bearing on any future Star Wars films imo especially ones with different directors.

Well in the case of Marvel, they're pumping out movies ridiculously fast, so fan fatigue is certainly the reason for spin-offs like Ant Man not being as successful. I don't really think that comparison is valid because Infinity War has been hyped up and looked forward to by many for a decade... So I see that as an outlier.

But nevertheless I'm just sick of TLJ talk, it's over and long gone. Why infinite threads need to be made bitching over details someone didn't like is beyond me.

TBH I agree with RR, TLJ is yesterdays news, good or bad.

We now have Episode 9!....I'm annoyed that there's gonna be an odd number of movies now.

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Funny thing is even Ant-Man grossed massively more than Solo. Showing the difference the current strength of the brand makes.

I also seriously doubt Avengers 4 will drop down to 1.3bill from the 2bill Infinity War made. (Thats what happened from TFA to TLJ).

So even the numbers are not showing the general audiences are loving this trilogy. Just that the Star Wars episodic films still sell.

A great film could easily enhance the franchise again though, I agree with that. I just personally dont see Episode 9 not being the same old same old.

Originally posted by RealistRacism
Well in the case of Marvel, they're pumping out movies ridiculously fast, so fan fatigue is certainly the reason for spin-offs like Ant Man not being as successful. I don't really think that comparison is valid because Infinity War has been hyped up and looked forward to by many for a decade... So I see that as an outlier.

But nevertheless I'm just sick of TLJ talk, it's over and long gone. Why infinite threads need to be made bitching over details someone didn't like is beyond me. I disagree since both of the other films hit well past a billion easily. Ant Man like Solo is not a great idea that appeals to the masses. That is why it failed to sell like the other two did. Brands help but the ideas matter. Thor 3 was great imo but did not get close to a billion either. BP was not and cruised past a billion so my theory the idea and strength of the film matters hold weight.

People like D.Thor cannot let their feelings go. They need to complain like a Disney exec raped their mom or something. Johnson is not even directing the next one and some posters still want to sweat over it and complain.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Funny thing is even Ant-Man grossed massively more than Solo. Showing the difference the current strength of the brand makes.

I also seriously doubt Avengers 4 will drop down to 1.3bill from the 2bill Infinity War made. (Thats what happened from TFA to TLJ).

So even the numbers are not showing the general audiences are loving this trilogy. Just that the Star Wars episodic films still sell.

A great film could easily enhance the franchise again though, I agree with that. I just personally dont see Episode 9 not being the same old same old. Or that people enjoyed the film more than Solo. Neither sold well. Solo was an utter bomb but as I said from the get go terrible idea. Ideas matter.

Different buildup. Star Wars came off after 10 years of nothing while avengers is building to something. Star Wars is fine as a brand they just need to realize brand alone will not work. Need a great idea to market to the masses, kid.


I love it. Still well past 1 billion. Drop off sure but all the other mid films experienced the same thing. Let your feelings go. TLJ is amazing.

I'm a simple nerd. Give me epic lightsaber battles, Jedi vs. Sith, mix around some space intrigue and grand scale conflicts and I'll be happy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Still well past 1Billion


So did the Transformers films. So TLJ is in good company.


Originally posted by quanchi112
Drop off sure but all the other mid films experienced the same thing.


This was by far the biggest drop off.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
So did the Transformers films. So TLJ is in good company.





This was by far the biggest drop off. The last knight made a little over 600 million you ignorant hater. Bumblebee will not sniff a billion either. That is a quality film too. So they do not all cruise past a billion. Try to at least be familiar with the facts.

Still a heathy profit all the same. You claimed the brand is damaged but refuse to back it up. You are full of shit, kid. Called you on it. You are free to hate the new trilogy but just stop crying about it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The last knight made a little over 600 million you ignorant hater. Bumblebee will not sniff a billion either. That is a quality film too.


A little over 600mill is frigging amazing next to what Solo made.

Ah so what youre saying is Quality doesnt determine box office? Look everyone, Mr. Dummy here is finally clocking on.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
A little over 600mill is frigging amazing next to what Solo made.

Ah so what youre saying is Quality doesnt determine box office? Look everyone, Mr. Dummy here is finally clocking on. Solo was a bad idea but the film you claimed destroyed Star was was TLJ which made 1.3 billion. You claimed transformers films cruise past 1 billion I gave you two examples which are the most recent. By your logic I can cite TFA. Do you ever think before you press the submit button? Be honest.

Quality is subjective but marketing, word of mouth, etc. also factors in. You do realize there are a lot of variables not just quality that determines the box office returns. Seriously, you need to quit posting about how badly TLJ ripped your fairweather fan heart out. You hate it and think abrams sucks. You also hate Disney because you think they want to piss off the fans. Feelings. You cannot seem to climb out of them.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Solo was a bad idea but the film you claimed destroyed Star was was TLJ which made 1.3 billion. You claimed transformers films cruise past 1 billion I gave you two examples which are the most recent. By your logic I can cite TFA. Do you ever think before you press the submit button? Be honest.




2 of the worst Transformers movies cruised past a billion. Up until the Last Knight each shitty sequel was making more and more.

Solo flopped and didnt make a Billion. Yes Disney Star Wars is full of bad ideas without a clear vision.

Now apparently out of nowhere Episode 9 will be a conclusion to the Whole Nine Episode Saga. They have never had a clear vision for these films and are now panicking.

Yes Bumblebee will be the least grossing Transformers film proving how dumb it is to equate Quality to Box Office.

You will be happy as long as Mickey Mouse makes a Billion from the next Star Wars film. Us actual fans will be happy when they actually give us something good. So far this trilogy has been dull and unoriginal. So we are not particularly excited to see how it ends.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
2 of the worst Transformers movies cruised past a billion. Up until the Last Knight each shitty sequel was making more and more.

Solo flopped and didnt make a Billion. Yes Disney Star Wars is full of bad ideas without a clear vision.

Now apparently out of nowhere Episode 9 will be a conclusion to the Whole Nine Episode Saga. They have never had a clear vision for these films and are now panicking.

Yes Bumblebee will be the least grossing Transformers film proving how dumb it is to equate Quality to Box Office.

You will be happy as long as Mickey Mouse makes a Billion from the next Star Wars film. Us actual fans will be happy when they actually give us something good. So far this trilogy has been dull and unoriginal. So we are not particularly excited to see how it ends. Your opinion of quality only speaks for yourself. Clearly it is not working for the last two recent films but somehow you ignore TLJ 1.3 billion haul and want to focus solely on solo.

They are not perfect. Huge mistake but I said this from the onset. Nowhere did I say they were correct in every decision made that is your misreprentation of my position.

We will see. I bet they will end wonderfully and cruise past a billion. You talk about panic when it is just you panicking. Triggered over starkiller bases and saying Abrams sucks. You are the guy who is just letting your emotions spill onto kmc.

I never said that was the end all be all but you said the brand is really bad I said they will recover. That is the disagreement but you lack any testicles. Only way to price brabd power is by dollars not your pitiful feelings. You are pure talk no walk.


TLJ was the best. I expect another great film. Ren is going to do some crazy things. I have faith you are just lost. Just rewatch the older films since you hate Disney. I am lovin the new trilogy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Your opinion of quality only speaks for yourself. Clearly it is not working for the last two recent films but somehow you ignore TLJ 1.3 billion haul and want to focus solely on solo.




Yes Star Wars is the new Transformers. Well done Disney

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yes Star Wars is the new Transformers. Well done Disney Not according to the critics, me, plenty of others and the box office. In your mind I am sure you think they are the same quality. Your opinion really is offensive. How dare you compare Star Wars to Bay trash.

^ You mean the critics which were confirmed to have sold out on their reviews?

Yeah its pretty much only you.

Was that actually confirmed? Or did some random just make a Youtube video on it...?

A couple of randoms made a YouTube on Kyle Newman saying it.

But Kyle Newman is a sound source.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ You mean the critics which were confirmed to have sold out on their reviews?

Yeah its pretty much only you. Oh the conspiracy theorist. What makes these lunatics out to be true are feelings based guys who want it to be true. Without proof you really have nothing. You will believe it because you want to not because it was proven. Only the weak minded fall for this kind of half assed hackjobs begging for YouTube views.

Absurd. You willignire all the other evidence of opinions disagreeing just to only listen to guys who share your views because you are weak.

Who the **** is Kyle Newman? Is he even involved at Disney?

I know a guy who knows a guy who said that the Virgin Mary had a cock. That's proof

^ He directed Fanboys. Hes a big Star Wars fan, is a good friend of Sam Witwer, And has other close contacts in the film industry and at Lucasfilm. So he might sound like a random to you, but ive followed the guy for years, so I know hes a sound source.

Of course hes not in with Disney, hed be fired for saying that if he was Lmao

His statement was about hardly anyone in Hollywood actually liking the film but with Star Wars being such a big thing for Disney they basically dont want to give a negative review and risk their future passes.

And honestly makes perfect sense. How 94% of critics cant point out the blatant unoriginality of TFA, or 91% not realise TLJ butchered Luke Skywalker, or how both films clearly made Rey a bland Mary Sue, is just absurd.

So yep I 100% believe him

I thought you were pointing me to some insider source or something. Basically he's just a guy who directed a movie and you like him so what he says is true?

They are wrong about most movies, because they're out of touch. 'Critics' are just a meme at this point, they don't need to be bought off to make horrific decisions. They would've seen the token diversity and great effects and given the movie a 10/10.

Originally posted by RealistRacism
Who the **** is Kyle Newman? Is he even involved at Disney?

I know a guy who knows a guy who said that the Virgin Mary had a cock. That's proof


Femme Thor might believe this. Be careful he is so gullible when his feelings are involved. He would be great cult material. They might not even have to sell him.

Originally posted by RealistRacism
I thought you were pointing me to some insider source or something. Basically he's just a guy who directed a movie and you like him so what he says is true?

Like what kind of inside source would you expect? Like realistically.

He said he couldn't give names of reviewers who lied for obvious reasons.


Originally posted by RealistRacism
They are wrong about most movies, because they're out of touch. 'Critics' are just a meme at this point, they don't need to be bought off to make horrific decisions. They would've seen the token diversity and great effects and given the movie a 10/10.

Well yeah... But out of touch doesn't explain overwhelming majority of them simply ignoring the blatant and obvious flaws in the ST. Whereas a good load of them were nitpicking any flaws in the Prequels (and ROTJ) to death.

I knew it just because he agrees he believes it without a shred of proof. Called it. Conspiracy theorist 101.

^ Kyle Newman has called it out boy. Either call him a liar (which would be your own conspiracy), or accept theres now reason to believe theres truth behind the notion.

Either way, stop crying and whining.

Quan have you ever heard of Discord?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Kyle Newman has called it out boy. Either call him a liar (which would be your own conspiracy), or accept theres now reason to believe theres truth behind the notion.

Either way, stop crying and whining. Unlike you I require proof not feelings. You just require feelings. I have you figured out.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Quan have you ever heard of Discord? Yes, RW has me download it though I rarely use it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Unlike you I require proof not feelings. You just require feelings. I have you figured out.



5 years of ranting at me and now you claim to have figured me out Lmao

Originally posted by Darth Thor
5 years of ranting at me and now you claim to have figured me out Lmao I have but it is plain to see for all. People are laughing at at your proofless theories and youtubers.

The worst part of TLJ is when everyone is an incompetent Space commander who even barely have a bit of common sense. Seriously, a supposed high-ranking military officer doesn't know anything about space combat. Oh wait, he's a general, not an admiral. Oh well, this proves, that Snoke is even more of an idiot.

1. Super Leia! - without a doubt, the worst one for me
2. Luke as an illusion and the fact that this trick has killed him
3. Luke - who saw a good in someone as bad as Vader was - try to kill his nephew for a small spark of darkness
4. Hux and Poe opening scene
5. The fact, that a whole movie is about cheasing a one ship
6. Holdo overall, and her creepy flirt with Poe
7. Finn "funny" scenes
8. Finn being saved by Rose - I really wanted him to die
9. All-powerful Rey
10. The fact that that small kid at the end didn't seat on that broomstick and fly away to fight Lord Voldemort

I've seen that movie just once, and it was already too much. So I could miss some others stupid parts.

Yeah, the whole movie was terrible, easily the worst Star War's movie, perhaps rivaled only by Solo and TFA. The only movie that Disney did well was R1. And in my opinion it was pretty good tbh.