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SSJ1 Gogeta vs. SSJ3 Gotenks (anime)

Who wins?

Assuming Gogeta was even in the same ballpark of power as Vegetto, he stomps effortlessly.

Even in FR he seemed on a completely different level than the Gotenks fusion.

Yep, the boys get a spanking from their old men.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Even in FR he seemed on a completely different level than the Gotenks fusion.

This.

New Gogeta would only need his base form.

...

Hell, either Goku or Vegeta (base forms) from DBS could solo SS3 Gotenks.

Yep.

Gotenks is one of the many characters that DBS shit on. He's comedic relief these days at best.

Remember how BoG film, anime and manga had Gotenks in different forms?

Someone was really bored...

This is Gogeta from Fusion Reborn.

Seems like a distinction without a difference. I mean a Z era Gogeta may not be as strong as Vegito going by the potata > metamoran rule, but should still be more than enough to handle Gotenks.

Yeah.

I mean, it was stated in Z that Potara gives a "rival boost", where Metamoran does not. So back then the clear intent is that Potara > Metamoran to *some* degree(at least where a Goku/Vegeta fusion is concerned)... We just don't know how *much* stronger Potara was intended to be.

That said, SSJ Vegetto >>>>>> Boohan >> Bootenks >> Super Boo ~ SSJ3 Gotenks. IOW, SSJ Gogeta could still be quite a bit weaker than Vegetto, but still be FAR more powerful than Gotenks.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
This.

New Gogeta would only need his base form.

...

Hell, either Goku or Vegeta (base forms) from DBS could solo SS3 Gotenks.

Base Vegeta already stood in one spot while the fusion boys attacked and mocked their attacks.

Originally posted by carver9
Base Vegeta already stood in one spot while the fusion boys attacked and mocked their attacks.

Copy-Vegeta, you mean.

But yeah, it happened.

And if we're including anime-exclusive scenes like that, then it's worth mentioning how Buu Saga Vegeta fought a copy of SSJ3 Gotenks inside Buu with great success while switching between his Super Saiyan and Base forms

So Gogeta and Vegito are officially equals.

Originally posted by Estacado
So Gogeta and Vegito are officially equals.

Where does it say so?

Link?

Dbs Broly thread has the link..

Ah, Sj_Sharp's post.

Thanks

Referring to the Boo Saga, a hypothetical Ssj3 Goten would own Ssj Goku in a fight, so, logically speaking, Ssj3 Gotenks should destroy Ssj Gogeta in the same way.

However, with the latest info regarding how fusions work, it is clear to me that the base power of the fusion output is the combination of the maximum power of the fusees. Then, the fused character can stack up his own transformations on top of it.

So:

- base Gotenks = (Ssj Trunks + Ssj Goten)*unknown multiplier
- base Gogeta = (Ssj3 Goku + Ssj2 Vegeta)*unknown multiplier

Hence why Ssj Gogeta would stomp Ssj3 Gotenks.
Also, we must factor in that Goku/Vegeta fusions appear to be even more powerful than expected.
This approach also explains why Kibitokai was not that powerful, as he was (Supreme Kai + Kibith)*unknown multiplier, where:

- Supreme Kai < Ssj Gohan
- Kibith <= base Gohan