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Thor has Stormbreaker

Who wins

Hate to say it, as MCU Thor is a vastly more interesting character then DCCU Zod, but Thor would kneel before Zod.

Thor caves his skull in, easily.

So the most powerful weapon in the universe that overpowersd the infinity gauntlet vs a kryptonian without his full powers.

Pretty much a spite thread

Zod dodges the axe and kills Thor.

Originally posted by Impediment
Zod dodges the axe and kills Thor. Does he have knowledge of Stormbreaker?

If not he'd probably try to catch it or block it.

Zod sucks at fighting, dodging an attack would probably never even occur to him.

Thor wins.

Zod wins this easily.
Much faster and stronger and more mobile.

Thor BRF's him with the Bi Frost.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Thor BRF's him with the Bi Frost.

I disagree

Originally posted by h1a8
Zod wins this easily.
Much faster and stronger and more mobile.

Delete your account.

Kyptonians are far faster than Thor.

Originally posted by h1a8
I disagree

You lack the standing to disagree with me.

Originally posted by h1a8
Zod wins this easily.
Much faster and stronger and more mobile.

OK, let's BZ it.

Originally posted by Impediment
Kyptonians are far faster than Thor.

Yes but Thor has AOEs.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yes but Thor has AOEs.

Actually Superman is the only Kryptonian that has true combat super speed feats and he didn't get those until Justice league.

Thor decapitates Zod.

Superspeed =/= invincible.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Actually Superman is the only Kryptonian that has true combat super speed feats and he didn't get those until Justice league.

True. Zod's superspeed seemed limited to brief spurts of bullrushing.

Originally posted by FrothByte
True. Zod's superspeed seemed limited to brief spurts of bullrushing.

Which Thor can also do, on top of lightning aura.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Delete your account.

Thor takes this. Zod has the powers to make it tough, but let's do a breakdown real quick:

Zod's only advantage is speed, which is debatable, as the bullrushing technique is the only time we see him use his super speed in fights (thanks to whoever pointed this out already). Thor's preferred method of fighting is always go in head-on, brawling and swinging for the fences, so Zod will be playing right into Thor's hands on that front.

Zod had limited control of his heat vision when Supes killed him, so that isn't going to help him much here. Worst case scenario is he actually bears down on Thor with it, who sustains some kind of minor injury until he blocks the vision with Stormbreaker or just throws Stormbreaker into Zod's grill, which would probably kill him.

Thor has
+ strength
+ durability by days
+ AoE attacks
+ bifrost transportation
+ fighting skill
+ far more versatility with the strongest weapon we've seen yet in a superhero movie

No brainer, Thor either gives him the business or at worst wins a moderately-challenging fight.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Actually Superman is the only Kryptonian that has true combat super speed feats and he didn't get those until Justice league. Zod has speed feats in his fight with Superman. But All Kryptonians have super speed and perceptions. It's part of their power set.

Just like all Asgardians can crumple a tactical knife. Right?

Seriously though, we know that any random Asgardian has super human strength and durability. It's part of power set.

Originally posted by John Murdoch
Thor takes this. Zod has the powers to make it tough, but let's do a breakdown real quick:

Zod's only advantage is speed, which is debatable, as the bullrushing technique is the only time we see him use his super speed in fights (thanks to whoever pointed this out already). Thor's preferred method of fighting is always go in head-on, brawling and swinging for the fences, so Zod will be playing right into Thor's hands on that front.

Zod had limited control of his heat vision when Supes killed him, so that isn't going to help him much here. Worst case scenario is he actually bears down on Thor with it, who sustains some kind of minor injury until he blocks the vision with Stormbreaker or just throws Stormbreaker into Zod's grill, which would probably kill him.

Thor has
+ strength
+ durability by days
+ AoE attacks
+ bifrost transportation
+ fighting skill
+ far more versatility with the strongest weapon we've seen yet in a superhero movie

No brainer, Thor either gives him the business or at worst wins a moderately-challenging fight.

Although Zod is stronger and more durable, speed is the only advantage he needs to win.
He has the ability to always beat Thor to the punch.
He can avoid any attack made by Thor.

Thor wouldn't bifrost Zod for three reasons.
1) He has to bifrost himself too
2) Zod has the speed to avoid it
3) Thor in character wouldn't think of it or choose to do it.
Otherwise we would have done it at least once against all those enemies he fought.


Thor multi directional attacks where against multiple enemies, not a single enemy (like Hela or Thanos). Thor is fighting 1 individual here.
Also Thor's power is more concentrated in a single blast than in a multi directional attack. In other words, the multi directional attack is WEAKER than a normal attack. Zod has a great if resisting Superman's HV which is far more damaging than Thor's multi directional attack.

One hit by Zod causes Thor to drop the weapon. Zod can easily prevent Thor from getting the hammer, either by continuing to stun Thor or by grabbing the hammer (or hitting it away).

Do you accept my BZ challenge?

Originally posted by h1a8
Although Zod is stronger and more durable, speed is the only advantage he needs to win.
He has the ability to always beat Thor to the punch.
He can avoid any attack made by Thor.

Thor wouldn't bifrost Zod for three reasons.
1) He has to bifrost himself too
2) Zod has the speed to avoid it
3) Thor in character wouldn't think of it or choose to do it.
Otherwise we would have done it at least once against all those enemies he fought.


Thor multi directional attacks where against multiple enemies, not a single enemy (like Hela or Thanos). Thor is fighting 1 individual here.
Also Thor's power is more concentrated in a single blast than in a multi directional attack. In other words, the multi directional attack is WEAKER than a normal attack. Zod has a great if resisting Superman's HV which is far more damaging than Thor's multi directional attack.

One hit by Zod causes Thor to drop the weapon. Zod can easily prevent Thor from getting the hammer, either by continuing to stun Thor or by grabbing the hammer (or hitting it away).

Perhaps you could convince me that Zod has the speed + punching power combo needed to give Thor a very difficult time, but there is ZERO on-screen evidence for Zod having anything that can trump Thor's strength and durability, all the feats on Pete Dinklage's forge (moving the rings, Rocket's spacecraft, opening and keeping the oculus while the neutron star's energy battered him) say otherwise. And that's not even getting into surviving a Destroyer backhand with his powers removed, causing massive earthquakes and caving in large portions of ground in Frost Giant land, baiting Ultron (whose hits had no significant effect on Thor), walking through the aether tornado in Dark World that was vaporizing everything in London, Hulk ground-pounding him in the skull with multiple strikes, Hela actually stabbing him with her swords, Thanos lighting him up point blank with the power stone to the point he was just floating in space (again, no long-lasting damage when the Guardians picked him up). That's, like, MCU Thor's numero uno power: durability.That and charged hammer strikes (post-Ragnarok, fist strikes as well).

Please explain how Zod can get anywhere close to ending the fight with heat vision. He had little control over it when Cavillman ended him, and Thor can just deflect it right back at him, as we've seen Thor do in character at least twice with the Destroyer Armor and Surtur.

The bifrost flattened all the Black Order crew that was around where Thor, Rocket, and Groot landed in Infinity War. He has used it technically as an attack (or at least it has damage output capabilities), but I'll give you that Zod could dodge it if he gets outside it's range quickly. What about a charged area strike though?

Also, Thor has more experience than Zod. Oodles more. And not the "he's an Asgardian warrior that's fought for millennia" experience. I mean on-screen feats against ranged fighters, melee, H2H, super-powered blasts, super-powered sustained blasts, mystical super-swords, giant H2H fighters, armies worth of creatures, etc. Zod got wrecked every fight he was in.

Originally posted by h1a8
Zod has speed feats in his fight with Superman. But All Kryptonians have super speed and perceptions. It's part of their power set.

Just like all Asgardians can crumple a tactical knife. Right?

Seriously though, we know that any random Asgardian has super human strength and durability. It's part of power set.

Correction. All Kryptonians have the ability for superspeed bullrushing. An Asgardian farmer can crumple a tactical knife. Their warriors are probably stronger.

Also want to add Thor's AOE attack against Loki in their bridge fight. That's an attack that was literally a blast in all directions.

Originally posted by h1a8
Zod has speed feats in his fight with Superman. But All Kryptonians have super speed and perceptions. It's part of their power set.

Just like all Asgardians can crumple a tactical knife. Right?

Seriously though, we know that any random Asgardian has super human strength and durability. It's part of power set.



If you're so sure that you can prove Zod wins, let's BZ.

Originally posted by John Murdoch
Perhaps you could convince me that Zod has the speed + punching power combo needed to give Thor a very difficult time, but there is ZERO on-screen evidence for Zod having anything that can trump Thor's strength and durability, all the feats on Pete Dinklage's forge (moving the rings, Rocket's spacecraft, opening and keeping the oculus while the neutron star's energy battered him) say otherwise. And that's not even getting into surviving a Destroyer backhand with his powers removed, causing massive earthquakes and caving in large portions of ground in Frost Giant land, baiting Ultron (whose hits had no significant effect on Thor), walking through the aether tornado in Dark World that was vaporizing everything in London, Hulk ground-pounding him in the skull with multiple strikes, Hela actually stabbing him with her swords, Thanos lighting him up point blank with the power stone to the point he was just floating in space (again, no long-lasting damage when the Guardians picked him up). That's, like, MCU Thor's numero uno power: durability.That and charged hammer strikes (post-Ragnarok, fist strikes as well).

Please explain how Zod can get anywhere close to ending the fight with heat vision. He had little control over it when Cavillman ended him, and Thor can just deflect it right back at him, as we've seen Thor do in character at least twice with the Destroyer Armor and Surtur.

The bifrost flattened all the Black Order crew that was around where Thor, Rocket, and Groot landed in Infinity War. He has used it technically as an attack (or at least it has damage output capabilities), but I'll give you that Zod could dodge it if he gets outside it's range quickly. What about a charged area strike though?

Also, Thor has more experience than Zod. Oodles more. And not the "he's an Asgardian warrior that's fought for millennia" experience. I mean on-screen feats against ranged fighters, melee, H2H, super-powered blasts, super-powered sustained blasts, mystical super-swords, giant H2H fighters, armies worth of creatures, etc. Zod got wrecked every fight he was in.

The ring feat is garbage. Ice had the rings stuck. Thor braced against the force to break the ice. It could have taken 50 tons of force for all we know. Or even 1 ton.

The neutron star feat has nothing to do with Thor taking a punch in the face.
It just shows he will be resistant somewhat to hv.

Surviving a back hand (Thor almost died if it wasn't for Mjolnir) is not a durability feat. It's actually a low showing and has no bearing on this fight.

Experience is irrelevant if someone fights better and if someone is significantly fastest.

Zod is significantly faster, stronger, and more durable than Thor.
He koes Thor in little time.

There is h1 doing his normal low-balling, just like the troll he is.

If a farmboy with not a lot of experience killed a general like zod then thor kills him even quicker

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
If a farmboy with not a lot of experience killed a general like zod then thor kills him even quicker The dude lost to a farmboy. How humiliating. Weak dc villains.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The dude lost to a farmboy. How humiliating. Weak dc villains.


yea i had high hopes for zod but he was written poorly

Originally posted by h1a8

The neutron star feat has nothing to do with Thor taking a punch in the face.
It just shows he will be resistant somewhat to hv.


Lol.

Zod was a pathetic villain that was horrendously weak.

Originally posted by Robtard
Hate to say it, as MCU Thor is a vastly more interesting character then DCCU Zod, but Thor would kneel before Zod.

No idea why people are lowballing Zod. He would punch up Hulk worse than Thor impaled Thanos.

That said, Stormbreaker Thor kills him.

Mainly because Zod lost every single fight he was in by people who had never been in a fight.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
No idea why people are lowballing Zod. He would punch up Hulk worse than Thor impaled Thanos.

That said, Stormbreaker Thor kills him.

To be fair, I don't believe it will be an easy fight. Zod is strong, tough, fast and more mobile.

That said, he never proved to be anything more than a brawler who's superspeed was limited to bullrushes every now and then.

Thor has more diverse attacks, better long range attacks, has AOEs, has a coat of lightning, is a far better fighter, can teleport and has a weapon that can one-shot Zod.

^ Yeah Thor is too versatile and too powerful for him.

But Zod is definitely an elite heavy weight in either Universe.

Zod is powerful, but he's one of the worst fighters in either universe.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Zod is powerful, but he's one of the worst fighters in either universe.

Name some things he did that make him one of the worst fighters?

Originally posted by h1a8
Name some things he did that make him one of the worst fighters?

He displayed almost no fighting skill.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He displayed almost no fighting skill.

That's your opinion. He show some fighting skill, enough to say he knows how to fight to a decent degree.

But speed kinda makes fighting skill irrelevant.

Originally posted by h1a8
That's your opinion. He show some fighting skill, enough to say he knows how to fight to a decent degree.

But speed kinda makes fighting skill irrelevant.

Name the people in the MCU/DCEU movies he is more skilled than.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Name the people in the MCU/DCEU movies he is more skilled than.

Everyone who never fought and never hinted to know how to fight, Spider-Man, Hulk, etc.

Thor is definitely more skilled than Zod. But Zod has speed which makes up for it.

Even using your list, Zod would still be considered one of the worst fighters in either universe.

In other words, you just admitted I was right.

Originally posted by h1a8
Name some things he did that make him one of the worst fighters?

Lost to a scientist and a farmboy. One of whom had never been in a fight all his life.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Yeah Thor is too versatile and too powerful for him.

But Zod is definitely an elite heavy weight in either Universe.

I most certainly agree he is a heavyweight. Any kryptonite is, I just think For a would stand a much better chance.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Lost to a scientist and a farmboy. One of whom had never been in a fight all his life. They couldn't hurt each other until the neck snap. That's not technically a lost because zod turned his back on Kal to kill humans. He was no longer fighting Kal. Scientist had fighting skill.
But irrelevant as indeed Thor is more skilled than Zod, but Zod's speed makes up for it.

Originally posted by h1a8
They couldn't hurt each other until the neck snap. That's not technically a lost because zod turned his back on Kal to kill humans. He was no longer fighting Kal. Scientist had fighting skill.
But irrelevant as indeed Thor is more skilled than Zod, but Zod's speed makes up for it.

The fact that he couldn't outfight an inexperienced farmboy shows that he isn't skilled. And yes, getting your neck snapped is indeed a loss. What proof do you have that the scientist is skilled?

Anyway, Zod is faster but only in bullrushing tactics. That's easily negated by Thor's other advantages like AOE's, long range attacks, lightning coating and his far better fighting skills.

Originally posted by h1a8
They couldn't hurt each other until the neck snap. That's not technically a lost because zod turned his back on Kal to kill humans. He was no longer fighting Kal. Scientist had fighting skill.
But irrelevant as indeed Thor is more skilled than Zod, but Zod's speed makes up for it.


None of those three Kryptonians had any real skill. you're just doing your normal exaggerating to support characters you like.

Originally posted by FrothByte
The fact that he couldn't outfight an inexperienced farmboy shows that he isn't skilled. And yes, getting your neck snapped is indeed a loss. What proof do you have that the scientist is skilled?

Anyway, Zod is faster but only in bullrushing tactics. That's easily negated by Thor's other advantages like AOE's, long range attacks, lightning coating and his far better fighting skills.

He could. Clark just couldn't get knocked out because of his durability. We see Clark get hit with combinations and even a crazy powerful uppercut. No amount of skill is going to help you ko someone whose durability prevents it.

Originally posted by h1a8
They couldn't hurt each other until the neck snap. That's not technically a lost because zod turned his back on Kal to kill humans. He was no longer fighting Kal. Scientist had fighting skill.
But irrelevant as indeed Thor is more skilled than Zod, but Zod's speed makes up for it.

Holy Toledo, getting killed by your opponent doesn't count as a loss???!!!!!

Originally posted by John Murdoch
Holy Toledo, getting killed by your opponent doesn't count as a loss???!!!!!


People get their neck snapped all the time and still win fights. Zod coulda came back after that but chose not to obviously.

^My mistake. I forgot about that option for him.

Originally posted by John Murdoch
Holy Toledo, getting killed by your opponent doesn't count as a loss???!!!!!

Under particular circumstances it doesn't count as a loss to be measured in fighting skill.

If someone strikes you or grabs on to your neck with your attention somewhere else then does that make your skill less than theirs?

No, stop being stupid.

Originally posted by h1a8
Under particular circumstances it doesn't count as a loss to be measured in fighting skill.

If someone strikes you or grabs on to your neck with your attention somewhere else then does that make your skill less than theirs?

No, stop being stupid.

Except that's not what happened is it?

They fell into a building, grappled, and Zod found himself caught in a sloppy chokehold that he couldn't get out of which is why he decided to use a cheap way out by threatening civilians with his HV.

Originally posted by John Murdoch
^My mistake. I forgot about that option for him.

Zod was clearly holding back at the end. If he had properly resisted, Clark would have had some serious carpal tunnel after that neck snap move.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Except that's not what happened is it?

They fell into a building, grappled, and Zod found himself caught in a sloppy chokehold that he couldn't get out of which is why he decided to use a cheap way out by threatening civilians with his HV.

You right. But flying through the air the way they were (before hitting the building) has no bearing on fighting skill.
Its not the same as h2h skill while standing on the ground.

But this is all irrelevant. As Zod has the speed to make up for any skill disadvantage.

Originally posted by h1a8
You right. But flying through the air the way they were (before hitting the building) has no bearing on fighting skill.
Its not the same as h2h skill while standing on the ground.

But this is all irrelevant. As Zod has the speed to make up for any skill disadvantage.

Except Superman didn't apply the chokehold in the middle of flight. They crashed on the ground and grappled while on the ground.

And yes, skill does matter in a fight. Only a complete idiot would say that it is irrelevant.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Except Superman didn't apply the chokehold in the middle of flight. They crashed on the ground and grappled while on the ground.

And yes, skill does matter in a fight. Only a complete idiot would say that it is irrelevant. Skill does not matter in THIS fight (stop trolling) as Zod's speed will make up for any lack of it.

Yeah, you guys are such trolls.

Originally posted by h1a8
Skill does not matter in THIS fight (stop trolling) as Zod's speed will make up for any lack of it.

I challenge you to a BZ on whether or not skill will matter in this fight. do you accept?

Originally posted by Silent Master
I challenge you to a BZ on whether or not skill will matter in this fight. do you accept?

No because It's not debatable.
Zod is far faster than Thor. Thor wouldn't be able to defend against Zod's punches or blitzes. And Zod would see any movement made by Thor to be in super slow motion.

Originally posted by h1a8
No because It's not debatable.
Zod is far faster than Thor. Thor wouldn't be able to defend against Zod's punches or blitzes. And Zod would see any movement made by Thor to be in super slow motion.

Can you show me clips of Zod throwing punches at superspeed?

Originally posted by h1a8
No because It's not debatable.
Zod is far faster than Thor. Thor wouldn't be able to defend against Zod's punches or blitzes. And Zod would see any movement made by Thor to be in super slow motion.


If it's not debatable, the BZ should be an easy win for you. so let's BZ.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Can you show me clips of Zod throwing punches at superspeed?

Zod uppercut Superman to the top of a skyscraper.
The arm speed had to be insanely fast to pull that off.
Also Zod punching Superman long distances away.

But all kryptonians have super speed and perceptions. So you asking for clips implies that Zod doesn't have super speed unless shown.

Originally posted by h1a8
Zod uppercut Superman to the top of a skyscraper.
The arm speed had to be insanely fast to pull that off.
Also Zod punching Superman long distances away.

But all kryptonians have super speed and perceptions. So you asking for clips implies that Zod doesn't have super speed unless shown.


None of which was shown to do done at superspeed. try again.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If it's not debatable, the BZ should be an easy win for you. so let's BZ. I already gave the reasons why it isn't debatable.
Winning a BZ doesn't interest me in such a matter.

Originally posted by h1a8
I already gave the reasons why it isn't debatable.
Winning a BZ doesn't interest me in such a matter.

No, you gave your opinion on why you think it isn't debatable. however your unwillingness to defend your reasons is proof that you know they wouldn't hold up.

A character moving in super slow motion means that skill doesn't matter. It's common sense.

Originally posted by h1a8
A character moving in super slow motion means that skill doesn't matter. It's common sense.

You have yet to prove that Zod sees the world in super-slow motion, so this is just more of your trolling.

Originally posted by h1a8
Zod uppercut Superman to the top of a skyscraper.
The arm speed had to be insanely fast to pull that off.
Also Zod punching Superman long distances away.

But all kryptonians have super speed and perceptions. So you asking for clips implies that Zod doesn't have super speed unless shown.

Let me ask again: Do you have a clip showing Zod throwing superspeed punches? And please, this is a yes or no question.

https://www.awn.com/vfxworld/making-superman-fly-again-man-steel

"In addition to superhero speed they would throw punches that would minimally break the sound barrier so there would be shock waves. At the same time, they didn't want to lose the force of the punches completely in motion blur (except as a gag with Zod's partner, Faora). They added effects to it by putting mock cones on the forearms, shockwave effects when they hit blows as visual cues."

https://www.artofvfx.com/man-of-steel-guillaume-rocheron-vfx-supervisor-mpc/

Second source no longer exists, but the screencap still does.

https://i.imgur.com/2X88RM0.png

Zod and Clark were trading punches that broke the sound barrier in Man of Steel. Which makes sense, since we know in the film Superman has the reaction-time to maneuver in-between building while flying those speeds without crashing as seen in that very fight.

The lowballing from the people supporting MCU characters will never stop though. Which I guess is only fair, because h1 will never stop his own lowballing either.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You have yet to prove that Zod sees the world in super-slow motion, so this is just more of your trolling.

1. He's a powered kryptonian. Therefore, he has super speed and perceptions.

2. He easily blocked Clark's combination of strikes.

Originally posted by NemeBro
https://www.awn.com/vfxworld/making-superman-fly-again-man-steel

"In addition to superhero speed they would throw punches that would minimally break the sound barrier so there would be shock waves. At the same time, they didn't want to lose the force of the punches completely in motion blur (except as a gag with Zod's partner, Faora). They added effects to it by putting mock cones on the forearms, shockwave effects when they hit blows as visual cues."

https://www.artofvfx.com/man-of-steel-guillaume-rocheron-vfx-supervisor-mpc/

Second source no longer exists, but the screencap still does.

https://i.imgur.com/2X88RM0.png

Zod and Clark were trading punches that broke the sound barrier in Man of Steel. Which makes sense, since we know in the film Superman has the reaction-time to maneuver in-between building while flying those speeds without crashing as seen in that very fight.

The lowballing from the people supporting MCU characters will never stop though. Which I guess is only fair, because h1 will never stop his own lowballing either.



Then they say I lowball.
Such hypocrites.

Originally posted by h1a8


Then they say I lowball.
Such hypocrites.

You do lowball.

Show us the actual clips of him throwing superspeed punches, otherwise this is just more of your trolling.

Edit: Make sure any examples you post match up with your insistence that scenes properly show RL physics.

Originally posted by h1a8


Then they say I lowball.
Such hypocrites. You're still the biggest lowballer of them all.

Originally posted by NemeBro
You're still the biggest lowballer of them all.

I disagree. They are.

I give credit where credit is due.

Originally posted by h1a8
I disagree. They are.

I give credit where credit is due.

Proof that you're a troll.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You do lowball.

Show us the actual clips of him throwing superspeed punches, otherwise this is just more of your trolling.

Edit: Make sure any examples you post match up with your insistence that scenes properly show RL physics.

I don't have to as you believe that Zod can throw punches at superspeed.

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't have to as you believe that Zod can throw punches at superspeed.

Proof that you're both a liar and a troll.

I speak the truth.
If you disagree then prove me wrong by clearly stating that you don't believe that Zod can throw superspeed punches.

Originally posted by h1a8
I speak the truth.
If you disagree then prove me wrong by clearly stating that you don't believe that Zod can throw superspeed punches. You speak your feelings not objective reality. Shhh.

Originally posted by h1a8
I speak the truth.
If you disagree then prove me wrong by clearly stating that you don't believe that Zod can throw superspeed punches.


You have provided no evidence, just your massively biased opinion. IOW, just more of your usual trolling.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You have provided no evidence, just your massively biased opinion. IOW, just more of your usual trolling.

Proof that you do believe that Zod can punch with super speed.
Nothing more needs to be said.

^Troll

Originally posted by h1a8
Proof that you do believe that Zod can punch with super speed.
Nothing more needs to be said. H1 you are here for mockery purposes only.

∆
Troll

Thor wins handily. he is far stronger and has lightning blasts and stormbreaker to take Zod out quickly.

Originally posted by Darthvaderrocks
Thor wins handily. he is far stronger and has lightning blasts and stormbreaker to take Zod out quickly.

Good! I was bored.

Zod is too fast for Thor.
Zod (a peer of Superman) is far stronger, not Thor.
Lightning won't do much to Zod from the feats against HV. And that's assuming Zod even allows Thor to hit him with it.

Originally posted by h1a8
Good! I was bored.

Zod is too fast for Thor.
Zod (a peer of Superman) is far stronger, not Thor.
Lightning won't do much to Zod from the feats against HV. And that's assuming Zod even allows Thor to hit him with it.

Lightning is far hotter than the surface of the sun and Thor has also the durability to take Zod's punches. Thor is stronger due to moving rings and his passive lightning can tag and stagger Zod and allow Thor to open with stormbreaker.

Thor 8/10.

Originally posted by Darthvaderrocks
Lightning is far hotter than the surface of the sun and Thor has also the durability to take Zod's punches. Thor is stronger due to moving rings and his passive lightning can tag and stagger Zod and allow Thor to open with stormbreaker.

Thor 8/10.

HV is hotter than the surface of the sun. It sliced an I beam in half with a single swipe. In the industry it takes far more time to melt that amount of steel.

Also, lightning does not act like it's that hot. Humans and objects have been struck with lightning and wasn't destroyed (got burns). Thor's lightning had hit multiple surrounding materials without destroying it.

And Zod can take the temperature of a nuke (which is far hotter than lightning)

Originally posted by h1a8
HV is hotter than the surface of the sun. It sliced an I beam in half with a single swipe. In the industry it takes far more time to melt that amount of steel.

Also, lightning does not act like it's that hot. Humans and objects have been struck with lightning and wasn't destroyed (got burns). Thor's lightning had hit multiple surrounding materials without destroying it.

And Zod can take the temperature of a nuke (which is far hotter than lightning)

Not actually, Lightning is 5x hotter than Heat Vision and has better feats such as busting the outrider ships in infinity war and destroying leviathans. Thor can counter the speed with lightning and skill and has better durability than Zod.

He wins in a high difficulty fight tbh. Zod hasn't tanked a nuke or anything close to that.

Originally posted by Darthvaderrocks
Not actually, Lightning is 5x hotter than Heat Vision and has better feats such as busting the outrider ships in infinity war and destroying leviathans. Thor can counter the speed with lightning and skill and has better durability than Zod.

He wins in a high difficulty fight tbh. Zod hasn't tanked a nuke or anything close to that.

Lightning has struck humans and other objects without disintegrated them. It's not that hot. At least it doesn't act that way.
The HV sliced an I beam with a swipe. Conventional heat that melts steel cannot melt that amount of steel that fast.
Lightning striking an I beam would do almost nothing.

Originally posted by h1a8
Lightning has struck humans and other objects without disintegrated them. It's not that hot. At least it doesn't act that way.
The HV sliced an I beam with a swipe. Conventional heat that melts steel cannot melt that amount of steel that fast.
Lightning striking an I beam would do almost nothing.

Normal lighting lasts 30 microseconds, Thor's lasts for seconds. which means it imparts around 100,000 times the energy of a normal strike.

Why do you always have to lowball Thor?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Normal lighting lasts 30 microseconds, Thor's lasts for seconds. which means it imparts around 100,000 times the energy of a normal strike.

Why do you always have to lowball Thor?
Good Ole Silent. Don't actually debate the topic but lurk around nitpicking arguments against Thor and Marvel characters. I have not once seen you debate against someone while you are supporting a DC character against a marvel character. Is it fair to say that you are bias towards marvel?


With that said
That's was my argument remember. So you accept it now instead of his lightning is magically more powerful than regular lightning?


But that has nothing to do with what we see onscreen. Thor's lightning has literally hit Materials without disintegrating them. It has no heat feats better than slicing an I-beam with a swipe.

But not to lowball and give lightning the benefit of the doubt Both lightning and HV are comparable since it takes many times the melting point of steel to melt it in one swipe.

I'm pointing out that you don't apply your own standards when it makes Thor look good. so again, why do you downplay Thor so much?

Says the guy that has claimed that guys like Batman are both faster and more skilled than what is shown onscreen, again. why the doublestandards?

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm pointing out that you don't apply your own standards when it makes Thor look good. so again, why do you downplay Thor so much?

Says the guy that has claimed that guys like Batman are both faster and more skilled than what is shown onscreen, again. why the doublestandards?

I was going by feats. Comparing HV to lightning.

What does your last statement have to do with anything?

Yes, it has to do with your double-standards.

Now, do you agree to never again claim that a characters skill/abilities are greater than what is shown onscreen?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yes, it has to do with your double-standards.

Now, do you agree to never again claim that a characters skill/abilities are greater than what is shown onscreen?

What are you talking about? We use visual speed remember? Been doing that forever now.

And I don't see what that has to do with this thread.

Now, do you agree to never again claim that a characters skill/abilities are greater than what is shown onscreen?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Now, do you agree to never again claim that a characters skill/abilities are greater than what is shown onscreen?

Do you agree to stop trolling?
Do you agree to stop lurking and waiting to nitpick arguments instead of initiating one and have others scrutinize it?

Debating standards are very relevant to a debate, which means my question is on topic and not trolling

Originally posted by Silent Master
Now, do you agree to never again claim that a characters skill/abilities are greater than what is shown onscreen?

Originally posted by h1a8
Do you agree to stop trolling?
Do you agree to stop lurking and waiting to nitpick arguments instead of initiating one and have others scrutinize it?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Debating standards are very relevant to a debate, which means my question is on topic and not trolling

Thor destroys him.