America: Russia is still not your friend. I give you Maria Butina!

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Putinbot1
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/10/maria-butina-russian-agent-nra-kremlin-infiltrate-plead-guilty

Accused Russian agent Maria Butina, who is suspected of trying to infiltrate the National Rifle Association (NRA) and influence US policy toward Russia, is expected to plead guilty this week following a deal between her lawyers and US prosecutors, according to court filings on Monday.


How Maria Butina, accused Russian spy, worked her way into top US circles

CNN reported on Monday that Butina had already begun to cooperate with prosecutors, citing one source familiar with the matter. US district judge Tanya Chutkan in Washington scheduled a hearing for 12 December.

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quanchi112
Trump be poopin dem pants.

dadudemon
Originally posted by quanchi112
Trump be poopin dem pants.

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Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Putinbot1
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/10/maria-butina-russian-agent-nra-kremlin-infiltrate-plead-guilty

Accused Russian agent Maria Butina, who is suspected of trying to infiltrate the National Rifle Association (NRA) and influence US policy toward Russia, is expected to plead guilty this week following a deal between her lawyers and US prosecutors, according to court filings on Monday.


How Maria Butina, accused Russian spy, worked her way into top US circles

CNN reported on Monday that Butina had already begun to cooperate with prosecutors, citing one source familiar with the matter. US district judge Tanya Chutkan in Washington scheduled a hearing for 12 December.

This neglects to mention that she also infiltrated Evangelical Christian circles, as well. She was a regular attendee of the National Prayer Breakfast, and was a regular guest on conservative Christian radio. She slept with married Evangelical leaders, and tried to sell them on the idea of establishing a state church.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
This neglects to mention that she also infiltrated Evangelical Christian circles, as well. She was a regular attendee of the National Prayer Breakfast, and was a regular guest on conservative Christian radio. She slept with married Evangelical leaders, and tried to sell them on the idea of establishing a state church.

Sounds like classic 1950s, 1960s Red Scare reactionism and with actual Red Spy tactics.

Are we really being reactionary when legit Cold War Era spy tactics are being used against the US, though?



I swear, her story reads exactly like what another Red Spy did in the 1960s. Have to go to a meeting but I will dig it up and see if I can find her name.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
This neglects to mention that she also infiltrated Evangelical Christian circles, as well. She was a regular attendee of the National Prayer Breakfast, and was a regular guest on conservative Christian radio. She slept with married Evangelical leaders, and tried to sell them on the idea of establishing a state church. Yup, I read that in another article fascinating.Originally posted by dadudemon
Sounds like classic 1950s, 1960s Red Scare reactionism and with actual Red Spy tactics.

Are we really being reactionary when legit Cold War Era spy tactics are being used against the US, though?



I swear, her story reads exactly like what another Red Spy did in the 1960s. Have to go to a meeting but I will dig it up and see if I can find her name. I don't suppose those tactics have changed much DDM.

Surtur
Originally posted by dadudemon
Are we really being reactionary when legit Cold War Era spy tactics are being used against the US, though?

I'd say no, not unless our country is pulling similar shit in other countries. Which we'd never do I'm sure.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Surtur
I'd say no, not unless our country is pulling similar shit in other countries. Which we'd never do I'm sure. You really hate your own Country...

Flyattractor
I find it funny that The Thread tried to make it sound like anyone every really thought that Russia WAS our "Friend". No really ever did... except for the American Left that is. The Love that Commie Socialism.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Putinbot1
You really hate your own Country... Such a little pissant is he not.

Robtard
Originally posted by Putinbot1
You really hate your own Country...

Trump's thrown America under the bus in defense of Putin at least two notable times, in his interview with Bill O'Reilly and then again at Helsinki. Surt's just following the marching orders.

BrolyBlack
Originally posted by dadudemon
Sounds like classic 1950s, 1960s Red Scare reactionism and with actual Red Spy tactics.

Are we really being reactionary when legit Cold War Era spy tactics are being used against the US, though?



I swear, her story reads exactly like what another Red Spy did in the 1960s. Have to go to a meeting but I will dig it up and see if I can find her name.

How often do you think we spy on Russia or tap the phones of our allies like Germany and other allies. Seems like a game on who gets the one up for the day, week, month or year.

dadudemon
Originally posted by dadudemon
I swear, her story reads exactly like what another Red Spy did in the 1960s. Have to go to a meeting but I will dig it up and see if I can find her name.

I cannot find the story. I find too many references to recent stuff. I'll do more searching when I get home.

dadudemon
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
How often do you think we spy on Russia or tap the phones of our allies like Germany and other allies. Seems like a game on who gets the one up for the day, week, month or year.

At any moment, probably near 100 Russian specific operatives at play with about 10 times that amount in back end administration for these operations.

Is the point of your question intended to diminish the fact of how deeply this Russian spy entrenched herself in the American Right? I do not believe it is diminished at all with the answer to your question. I do not believe this becomes "usual and customary" where this type of behavior should be considered normalized. From either country.

However, I am not so stupid as to not acknowledge that all G20 countries probably do this to each other.

BrolyBlack
Yea that my point, how do we claim the moral high ground on this type of activity when we do it to other countries?

Or is it "ah ha we caught you" moment.

Seems like a game to me, this woman is just a pawn on the field in the larger game of things.

dadudemon
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Yea that my point, how do we claim the moral high ground on this type of activity when we do it to other countries?

Or is it "ah ha we caught you" moment.

Seems like a game to me, this woman is just a pawn on the field in the larger game of things.

Agreed on all accounts. thumb up

If Obama was in office, the GOP would be using this to come down on his Administration. Just the news wouldn't cover it nearly as much as they do with Trump.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Robtard
Trump's thrown America under the bus in defense of Putin at least two notable times, in his interview with Bill O'Reilly and then again at Helsinki. Surt's just following the marching orders. Pretty much Rob.

Robtard

Putinbot1
Exactly Rob, the UK and US have both been undermined by Russia and it is no accident.

Mindship
A ginger stick. I would've been immune to her charms.

dadudemon
I just noticed something...


She was caught a while back. Not sure if this is even relevant news because she was caught. I believe that the only reason this is seen as relevant is because it's "Russia." And that's the only reason. There's no real or legitimate reason for this to be of concern. Because she was caught.



How much damage can really be done by gun lobbyist? Unless you're an idiot who thinks gun freedom = homicides. What real power was there to influence, here?

I think this would be different if it was from another group.

But the thing is, she was caught.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by dadudemon
I just noticed something...


She was caught a while back. Not sure if this is even relevant news because she was caught. I believe that the only reason this is seen as relevant is because it's "Russia." And that's the only reason. There's no real or legitimate reason for this to be of concern. Because she was caught.



How much damage can really be done by gun lobbyist? Unless you're an idiot who thinks gun freedom = homicides. What real power was there to influence, here?

I think this would be different if it was from another group.

But the thing is, she was caught. Yes DDM it's relevant because it's Russia and she is admitting guilt.

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by dadudemon
I just noticed something...


She was caught a while back. Not sure if this is even relevant news because she was caught. I believe that the only reason this is seen as relevant is because it's "Russia." And that's the only reason. There's no real or legitimate reason for this to be of concern. Because she was caught.



How much damage can really be done by gun lobbyist? Unless you're an idiot who thinks gun freedom = homicides. What real power was there to influence, here?

I think this would be different if it was from another group.

But the thing is, she was caught.

Um, Russia laundered money through the NRA to make illegal campaign contributions. It was a huge story.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Um, Russia laundered money through the NRA to make illegal campaign contributions. It was a huge story. just looking it up Adam, fascinating.

Old Man Whirly!
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Um, Russia laundered money through the NRA to make illegal campaign contributions. It was a huge story. Bump!

Blakemore
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Bump! Well that explains the rise of the NRA AND Putin's plans.

I'm sorry, I can't stop thinking Putin is Hitler. I mean, he's not there yet, but come on.

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