Nods to Jmaghan, The Star Wars Forum Incel Problem

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Putinbot1
I just read Jmanghan's thread and was actually distubed by it. Not by the mod response, they did everything correctly. Not by Jman either, but by the act these virhins carried out. Not for the first time basic personal boundaries have been crossed and things which impact people in the real world have been carried out off the forums.

The common denominator, the Incel virgins of the Star Wars extended Universeforum and hangout.

I am disturbed how anyone at any age would find posting images of someones dead father on a facebook page amusing.

We've had them almost lord of the flies like turn on DMB and Jman as if they were Piggy.

We've jad weord alt right shit posted by the Xiggy and Bart children. Constant threats to dox people. Surely these boys need to come of WoW and get laid.

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incelchild
Agreed. Those Incels only wish they could get a vile, shit skin Paki import as a gf.

Bashar Teg
Originally posted by Putinbot1

I am disturbed how anyone at any age would find posting images of someones dead father on a facebook page amusing.

the certainly of dying alone has driven them to ultimate bitterness.

gold slorg
wtf

i never doxxed people and believe it to be where the line of trolling is drawn lmao wtf

Iggyziggy
Putinbot you ****** loving ***. I bet you have aids from ****ing monkeys/*******.

dadudemon
I think it's stupid and lame.

As Whirly put it, these lame shitheads wouldn't do or say these things in person because they are all cowards. Sniffling cowards.

Robtard
Sorry that happened to you, Jmang. But pretty much what DDM said above, just lame angry virgins doing lame angry virgin stuff. Best to just not let it bother you too much.

Bashar Teg
I'm sure he meant *sniveling cowards. smile

dadudemon
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
I'm sure he meant *sniveling cowards. smile

Yes, sniveling is what I meant. Thanks! smile

Bashar Teg
then again maybe they're sniffling as well. We're well into cold and flu season.

Emperordmb
What the **** is your obsession with incels? It's actually getting almost creepy at this point.

And you don't really understand the complex history of the SW section and the problems within it.

Robtard
Was it the William Golding reference? Cos I thought that was clever and it certainly wasn't an attack on you...

Emperordmb
Nah I know it wasn't aimed at me.

I just got kinda annoyed that it seemed like Putinbot was using that horrible shit as an excuse to randomly rail against incels when he's not familiar with the problems behind that section of the forum. Seemed like kinda an opportunistic move taking advantage of a sensitive issue for another member, which seemed kinda gross to me.

Though in hindsight I realize that's just Putin's favorite insult and it was more him backing Jman up and shitting on them in the worst terms apparently he can think of.

I probably misinterpreted the point of this thread because I had just woken up a few minutes prior and was a bit irate because my dad woke me up with a phone call.

But yeah time for a little history lesson on the SW section on KMC.

It all started with a different forum called Starwarsforums.org (it has since been deleted). It was a smaller forum headed by someone known as DarthSith500. Now a couple years before I joined when DarthSith was 13 or 14 he was doing ****ed shit like threatening a 10 year old member of his forum to dox his picture and name on porn websites if he didn't get a certain number of posts per day, and if he didn't go with him to infiltrate other forums (including a forum of primarily little girls) to spam them with porn. He also told this 10 year old (someone now older in the SW section of KMC, not gonna say who) that he and his friends were gonna find him IRL and beat the shit out of him, and this 10 year old cried himself to sleep at night with a baseball bat.

Needless to say the culture of this forum (which I will abbreviate as SWF) got really messed up with this guy. He and a couple other admins on there who were messed up to him in a similar way would seriously bully other users by treating them well for a while and then turning on them and treating them like absolute shit. They'd make fake accounts and pretend to be other people to **** with people on there. And the attitude on the forum grew really toxic between a lot of the members, like toxicity that makes any part of KMC look tame.

Anyways I joined SWF when I was 15 and DarthSith was 16, but after like a year things hit a boiling point and a lot of us got really pissed off at DarthSith, and me and the member he had previously threatened to Dox lead something of an exodus of a few of the members and it started kinda a conflict with them that ended with a lot of SWF migrating onto KMC and being some of the more prominent members in the community.

Gradually, as the SWF culture influenced KMC, this shifted the SW section of KMC from being a relatively tame debating forum with some toxicity, to being a much more toxic section of KMC with a lot more trolling and personal attacks and vitriol.

That's kinda my account of how the SW section of KMC developed a lot of its problems.

BARTJK
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Nah I know it wasn't aimed at me.

I just got kinda annoyed that it seemed like Putinbot was using that horrible shit as an excuse to randomly rail against incels when he's not familiar with the problems behind that section of the forum. Seemed like kinda an opportunistic move taking advantage of a sensitive issue for another member, which seemed kinda gross to me.

Though in hindsight I realize that's just Putin's favorite insult and it was more him backing Jman up and shitting on them in the worst terms apparently he can think of.

I probably misinterpreted the point of this thread because I had just woken up a few minutes prior and was a bit irate because my dad woke me up with a phone call.

But yeah time for a little history lesson on the SW section on KMC.

It all started with a different forum called Starwarsforums.org (it has since been deleted). It was a smaller forum headed by someone known as DarthSith500. Now a couple years before I joined when DarthSith was 13 or 14 he was doing ****ed shit like threatening a 10 year old member of his forum to dox his picture and name on porn websites if he didn't get a certain number of posts per day, and if he didn't go with him to infiltrate other forums (including a forum of primarily little girls) to spam them with porn. He also told this 10 year old (someone now older in the SW section of KMC, not gonna say who) that he and his friends were gonna find him IRL and beat the shit out of him, and this 10 year old cried himself to sleep at night with a baseball bat.

Needless to say the culture of this forum (which I will abbreviate as SWF) got really messed up with this guy. He and a couple other admins on there who were messed up to him in a similar way would seriously bully other users by treating them well for a while and then turning on them and treating them like absolute shit. They'd make fake accounts and pretend to be other people to **** with people on there. And the attitude on the forum grew really toxic between a lot of the members, like toxicity that makes any part of KMC look tame.

Anyways I joined SWF when I was 15 and DarthSith was 16, but after like a year things hit a boiling point and a lot of us got really pissed off at DarthSith, and me and the member he had previously threatened to Dox lead something of an exodus of a few of the members and it started kinda a conflict with them that ended with a lot of SWF migrating onto KMC and being some of the more prominent members in the community.

Gradually, as the SWF culture influenced KMC, this shifted the SW section of KMC from being a relatively tame debating forum with some toxicity, to being a much more toxic section of KMC with a lot more trolling and personal attacks and vitriol.

That's kinda my account of how the SW section of KMC developed a lot of its problems. starwarsforums.org was great and we will find you and beat you up.

Putinbot you are not a white man.

Surtur
Originally posted by Emperordmb
What the **** is your obsession with incels? It's actually getting almost creepy at this point.

Yeah it really is.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah it really is. sounds like the sort of thing an incel might say.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Nah I know it wasn't aimed at me.

I just got kinda annoyed that it seemed like Putinbot was using that horrible shit as an excuse to randomly rail against incels when he's not familiar with the problems behind that section of the forum. Seemed like kinda an opportunistic move taking advantage of a sensitive issue for another member, which seemed kinda gross to me.

Though in hindsight I realize that's just Putin's favorite insult and it was more him backing Jman up and shitting on them in the worst terms apparently he can think of.

I probably misinterpreted the point of this thread because I had just woken up a few minutes prior and was a bit irate because my dad woke me up with a phone call.

But yeah time for a little history lesson on the SW section on KMC.

It all started with a different forum called Starwarsforums.org (it has since been deleted). It was a smaller forum headed by someone known as DarthSith500. Now a couple years before I joined when DarthSith was 13 or 14 he was doing ****ed shit like threatening a 10 year old member of his forum to dox his picture and name on porn websites if he didn't get a certain number of posts per day, and if he didn't go with him to infiltrate other forums (including a forum of primarily little girls) to spam them with porn. He also told this 10 year old (someone now older in the SW section of KMC, not gonna say who) that he and his friends were gonna find him IRL and beat the shit out of him, and this 10 year old cried himself to sleep at night with a baseball bat.

Needless to say the culture of this forum (which I will abbreviate as SWF) got really messed up with this guy. He and a couple other admins on there who were messed up to him in a similar way would seriously bully other users by treating them well for a while and then turning on them and treating them like absolute shit. They'd make fake accounts and pretend to be other people to **** with people on there. And the attitude on the forum grew really toxic between a lot of the members, like toxicity that makes any part of KMC look tame.

Anyways I joined SWF when I was 15 and DarthSith was 16, but after like a year things hit a boiling point and a lot of us got really pissed off at DarthSith, and me and the member he had previously threatened to Dox lead something of an exodus of a few of the members and it started kinda a conflict with them that ended with a lot of SWF migrating onto KMC and being some of the more prominent members in the community.

Gradually, as the SWF culture influenced KMC, this shifted the SW section of KMC from being a relatively tame debating forum with some toxicity, to being a much more toxic section of KMC with a lot more trolling and personal attacks and vitriol.

That's kinda my account of how the SW section of KMC developed a lot of its problems. No problem DMB, these kids sound stunted and ****ed up tbh.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by incelchild
Agreed. Those Incels only wish they could get a vile, shit skin Paki import as a gf. you wish you vould have any woman. Your desperation drives your hate. I pity you kid.

Surtur
Originally posted by Putinbot1
sounds like the sort of thing an incel might say.

You're obsessed. You're also not very bright if this was actually meant to be a serious thread. All you did was attract the very same people who came after Jmaghan before.

Robtard
Surt, why do you get so bothered when Putinbot shits on incels?

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Surtur
You're obsessed. You're also not very bright if this was actually meant to be a serious thread. All you did was attract the very same people who came after Jmaghan before. you just cant help yourself. In relation to what i said to Shiv in the Trump thread, I'mjust not going to attack, it's a new year and i intend to try and be a better person. It's hard to try and be nice, it's easier to attack. But, the world doesn't need foolish attacks when it has people prepared to dox others in disgusting ways. Whatever, I've said about you and whatever our disagreements. I know you are not that person. You have a level of morality above that.

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
Surt, why do you get so bothered when Putinbot shits on incels?

If you need to spin it that way, okay. Someone commented on his obsession. I agreed.

Surtur
Originally posted by Putinbot1
you just cant help yourself. In relation to what i said to Shiv in the Trump thread, I'mjust not going to attack, it's a new year and i intend to try and be a better person. It's hard to try and be nice, it's easier to attack. But, the world doesn't need foolish attacks when it has people prepared to dox others in disgusting ways. Whatever, I've said about you and whatever our disagreements. I know you are not that person. You have a level of morality above that.

Lol this is some of the best satire you have ever posted.

Robtard
I'm not wrong though as this isn't the first time this has happened.

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
I'm not wrong though as this isn't the first time this has happened.

You're not wrong in the sense that I've noted his obsession before.

And yes: it is an obsession.

Robtard
Originally posted by Surtur
You're not wrong in the sense that I've noted his obsession before.

And yes: it is an obsession.

He shits on incels the same way you shit on SJW, women, Islam and "The Left!" in general. So can it be said you're also obsessed? If no, reasons why it's different?

Bashar Teg
special rules?

Jmanghan
Originally posted by Robtard
He shits on incels the same way you shit on SJW, women, Islam and "The Left!" in general. So can it be said you're also obsessed? If no, reasons why it's different? There's nothing wrongs with SJW's in certain situations.

It's okay to be offended by stuff, and someone who can't understand that, I dunno what to tell them, tbh.

Robtard
Originally posted by Jmanghan
There's nothing wrongs with SJW's in certain situations.

It's okay to be offended by stuff, and someone who can't understand that, I dunno what to tell them, tbh.

Obviously, Social Justice is a great thing in the general sense, even if some pervert it by taking it to the extreme in certain scenarios. It's sad that the vast majority of the good gets clumped with the occasional bad by some people and it's the bad that's focused on.

Surtur
Originally posted by Jmanghan
There's nothing wrongs with SJW's in certain situations.

It's okay to be offended by stuff, and someone who can't understand that, I dunno what to tell them, tbh.

It's okay to be offended, it's not okay to expect others to give a shit you're offended.

There is a difference between being pro social justice and being an SJW.

Surtur
This kinda sums it up:

https://i.imgur.com/icnVVmD.jpg

BrolyBlack
Be Merry

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f11/t658366.html

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Surtur
You're not wrong in the sense that I've noted his obsession before.

And yes: it is an obsession. Surt, why does my reaching out to younhave to be satire?

Surtur
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Surt, why does my reaching out to younhave to be satire?

It's based on your history here, sorry chap.

Putinbot1
That's the thing Surt, we all have histories, to grow we sometimes need to make a leap of faith. My 2019 wish for you is you smile, laugh and love if you can. You bravely take life by the horns and find joy where you can. You can find joy when you look for it Surtur.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by Surtur
This kinda sums it up:

https://i.imgur.com/icnVVmD.jpg But don't you wanna like, watch it for the good will of another person?

Whats the difference from what you said as it offends someone and saying the N-word in public?

Why is it okay to use the term "retard" repeatedly and not okay to say the n-word?

I'm not actually asking that, but you get what I'm saying, it's not okay to condemn once action and not another?

Why is using the term "autist" okay, but every other thing is not?

Putinbot1

gold slorg
@putinbot

repeating the question, why would you think i endorse doxxing

Surtur
Originally posted by Jmanghan
But don't you wanna like, watch it for the good will of another person?

Whats the difference from what you said as it offends someone and saying the N-word in public?

Why is it okay to use the term "retard" repeatedly and not okay to say the n-word?

I'm not actually asking that, but you get what I'm saying, it's not okay to condemn once action and not another?

Why is using the term "autist" okay, but every other thing is not?

If you want an honest answer to your question about the N word and why retard seems more acceptable(though some still whine) it's because black people rank way way higher on the victimhood scale than intellectually disabled people.

It's the same reason calling a white guy a cracker is more acceptable than calling a black guy the N word.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by Surtur
If you want an honest answer to your question about the N word and why retard seems more acceptable(though some still whine) it's because black people rank way way higher on the victimhood scale than intellectually disabled people.

It's the same reason calling a white guy a cracker is more acceptable than calling a black guy the N word. Should it be though?

Surtur
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Should it be though?

Should one racial slur be more acceptable than the other? No probably not.

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Jmanghan
But don't you wanna like, watch it for the good will of another person?

Whats the difference from what you said as it offends someone and saying the N-word in public?

Why is it okay to use the term "retard" repeatedly and not okay to say the n-word?

I'm not actually asking that, but you get what I'm saying, it's not okay to condemn once action and not another?

Why is using the term "autist" okay, but every other thing is not?

If someone has the intellectual capacity to understand the term retard, then it likely does not apply to him. And if he does not, then he likewise does not have the capacity to take offense. It may be a different conversation if the target of the term was someone with an intellectual disability. However, in the vast majority of cases, the target is someone of average intelligence who is being shamed for not exercising his mental faculties by comparing them to a level that is below his station. It is not the fault of someone else if the only station below the one someone currently occupies is challenged.

Surtur
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
If someone has the intellectual capacity to understand the term retard, then it likely does not apply to him. And if he does not, then he likewise does not have the capacity to take offense. It may be a different conversation if the target of the term was someone with an intellectual disability. However, in the vast majority of cases, the target is someone of average intelligence who is being shamed for not exercising his mental faculties by comparing them to a level that is below his station. It is not the fault of someone else if the only station below the one someone currently occupies is challenged.

Are you okay with "gay" when it's used to mean "lame" ?

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Should it be though?

Yes. Relevantly dissimilar things should not be treated the same.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Surtur
Are you okay with "gay" when it's used to mean "lame" ?

I speak on behalf of all the gays: they are not offended 100% guaranteed and certified.

Surtur
Originally posted by dadudemon
I speak on behalf of all the gays: they are not offended 100% guaranteed and certified.

It's gonna be super gay if you don't truly speak on behalf of all gays. Super duper gay.

Silent Master
Being offended over someone you don't even know or care about calling you a name is retarded.

Robtard
Originally posted by Surtur
If you want an honest answer to your question about the N word and why retard seems more acceptable(though some still whine) it's because black people rank way way higher on the victimhood scale than intellectually disabled people.

It's the same reason calling a white guy a cracker is more acceptable than calling a black guy the N word.

roll eyes (sarcastic)

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Surtur
Are you okay with "gay" when it's used to mean "lame" ?

The comparison is not necessarily logically equivalent, because mentally challenged is a category of intelligence that is below average. So if the criticism is about intelligence, then the term is directly applicable.

In your example, gay is not being used to provide commentary on something related to LGB sexuality or culture, e.g. "Richard Spencer has gay face," but as synonymous with something that is generally dissatisfactory, e.g. "That's gay."

It is objectionable insofar as it is a logical misapplication that implies that LGB sexuality or culture is itself dissatisfactory, but I am not going to get bent out of shape about it. I am not the word police, you do you, and people will let you know what they think about your particular word choice.

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Surtur
It's gonna be super gay if you don't truly speak on behalf of all gays. Super duper gay.

https://mswintermute92.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/pewds.gif

Robtard
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The comparison is not necessarily logically equivalent, because mentally challenged is a category of intelligence that is below average. So if the criticism is about intelligence, then the term is directly applicable.

In your example, gay is not being used to provide commentary on something related to LGB sexuality or culture, e.g. "Richard Spencer has gay face," but as synonymous with something that is generally dissatisfactory, e.g. "That's gay."

It is objectionable insofar as it is a logical misapplication that implies that LGB sexuality or culture is itself dissatisfactory, but I am not going to get bent out of shape about it. I am not the word police, you do you, and people will let you know what they think about your particular word choice.

Who has the gayer face, Spencer or Crowder?

dadudemon
Originally posted by Robtard
Who has the gayer face, Spencer or Crowder?

This is the toughest question of 2019, so far.

Surtur
Originally posted by dadudemon
This is the toughest question of 2019, so far.

https://i.imgflip.com/2q8zno.jpg

BackFire
Spencer does.

Crowder just looks like a random idiot douchebro.

Robtard
Originally posted by Surtur
https://i.imgflip.com/2q8zno.jpg

Been said that if you buy him two beers he'll happily and greedily suck you off in a public restroom stall.

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
Been said that if you buy him two beers he'll happily and greedily suck you off in a public restroom stall.

That's an oddly specific fantasy you have.

Robtard
You're getting oddly defensive over Steven "Two Beers Queer" Crowder again.

Surtur
Defensive? I was poking fun at him.

BrolyBlack
Louder with Crowder at it again? laughing out loud

Robtard
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Louder with Crowder at it again? laughing out loud

Again? The Alt-Right never rests.

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Robtard
Who has the gayer face, Spencer or Crowder?

Probably Spencer, because he looks straight up gay. But Crowder looks like my ex-boyfriend who was a gay-leaning bisexual. So Crowder's face is still gay, just not as gay as Spencer's.

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
Again? The Alt-Right never rests.

roll eyes (sarcastic)

Robtard
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Probably Spencer, because he looks straight up gay. But Crowder looks like my ex-boyfriend who was a gay-leaning bisexual. So Crowder's face is still gay, just not as gay as Spencer's.

Actually makes sense, Crowder is married so he likely only has sex with other men on the side. Probably why he does his open forum "Change My Mind' sessions, to meet other men.

Robtard
Originally posted by Surtur
roll eyes (sarcastic)

What's wrong, my son?

Surtur
Originally posted by Robtard
Actually makes sense, Crowder is married so he likely only has sex with other men on the side. Probably why he does his open forum "Change My Mind' sessions, to meet other men.

Spencer is married too.

Robtard
Originally posted by Surtur
Spencer is married too.

He should hook him up with Crowder then, just another thing they have in common.

Surtur
What else do they have in common?

Robtard
Besides their love of dick?

Surtur
Sure.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
If someone has the intellectual capacity to understand the term retard, then it likely does not apply to him. And if he does not, then he likewise does not have the capacity to take offense. It may be a different conversation if the target of the term was someone with an intellectual disability. However, in the vast majority of cases, the target is someone of average intelligence who is being shamed for not exercising his mental faculties by comparing them to a level that is below his station. It is not the fault of someone else if the only station below the one someone currently occupies is challenged. This logic is awful.

"If it doesn't apply to you, you shouldn't take offence."

Uh... Nah man, using it towards a person just bothers me because I am concerned for that person's feelings.

Bashar Teg
wow

HP Legend
INB4 Jman gets the mods to ban Az.

gold slorg
F

az forever in our memories

Lord GOAT
F

Silent Master
Originally posted by Azronger
Jman, we weren't mocking your old man for being dead; we were mocking him for being a corpulent, blobby monstrosity

On a scale of 1 to 10, how retarded are you?

dadudemon
Originally posted by Jmanghan
This logic is awful.

"If it doesn't apply to you, you shouldn't take offence."

Uh... Nah man, using it towards a person just bothers me because I am concerned for that person's feelings.


Originally posted by Bashar Teg
wow


?


I don't understand your response. You're mocking Jmanghan because he has...empathy?

Galan007
No, Bashar was responding to a post by Azronger, in which he mocked Jman's father.

The post itself has been deleted.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Galan007
No, Bashar was responding to a post by Azronger, in which he mocked Jman's father.

The post itself has been deleted.

Thanks for clarifying. thumb up

Seemed odd to mock someone for caring about others feelings.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by HP Legend
INB4 Jman gets the mods to ban Az. You guys can't use irl stuff to mock other people.

Edit: To clarify, I didn't see what Az had said before he got restricted, but clearly anyone who is willing to continue mocking someone after that is either a sociopath or very young and doesn't have the ability to process what they're saying.

I haven't gotten the mods to do anything, I just pointed them in the right direction, and before that Galan was the first to tell Imp, Bada, etc.

Bashar also was the one who point mods towards Xiggy.

It's not my fault you are all edgelords who think there are no limits in trolling, you now know there are, and not to cross that line again.

Edit:Edit: AND for the record, no matter how "retarded" or "autistic" I'm being, you don't go out of your way to search for ANY of my relatives, and you don't doxx, because you can and will get arrested if you do. Ya'll are gonna wind up ****ing with the wrong person one day and it will get you into deep trouble.

Lord GOAT
well, somebody needs to get over his fat dead father

Jmanghan
Originally posted by Lord GOAT
well, somebody needs to get over his fat dead father You're a ****ing sicko.

Lord GOAT
Originally posted by Jmanghan
You're a ****ing sicko.

i know

HP Legend
Originally posted by Jmanghan
You guys can't use irl stuff to mock other people.

Edit: To clarify, I didn't see what Az had said before he got restricted, but clearly anyone who is willing to continue mocking someone after that is either a sociopath or very young and doesn't have the ability to process what they're saying.

I haven't gotten the mods to do anything, I just pointed them in the right direction, and before that Galan was the first to tell Imp, Bada, etc.

Bashar also was the one who point mods towards Xiggy.

It's not my fault you are all edgelords who think there are no limits in trolling, you now know there are, and not to cross that line again.

Edit:Edit: AND for the record, no matter how "retarded" or "autistic" I'm being, you don't go out of your way to search for ANY of my relatives, and you don't doxx, because you can and will get arrested if you do. Ya'll are gonna wind up ****ing with the wrong person one day and it will get you into deep trouble.

Bro I never condoned what they did or said it was right. And to clarify Ziggy didn't actually do anything. He posted one troll message and got perma banned for it. He didn't make a single reference to your dad in any of the threads.

Also looking at someone's photos they posted on Facebook isn't illegal.

Jmanghan
I've been here longer then a lot of you, I helped shape the SW Versus forum as it is today and contributed a lot more then you little pre-pubescent ****bags who think it's funny to mock a person's dead parents. Please leave, posters like you do not belong here, stay on 4chan and leave us alone.

"Those with antisocial personality disorder (ASPD) may begin to show symptoms in childhood, but the condition can't be diagnosed until adolescence or adulthood.

Those with antisocial personality disorder tend to lie, break laws, act impulsively, and lack regard for their own safety or the safety of others. Symptoms may lessen with age."

(Not directed towards HP Legend)

Jmanghan
Originally posted by HP Legend
Bro I never condoned what they did or said it was right. And to clarify Ziggy didn't actually do anything. He posted one troll message and got perma banned for it. He didn't make a single reference to your dad in any of the threads.

Also looking at someone's photos they posted on Facebook isn't illegal. It's against the rules to post about someone's personal life on KMC without their consent.

I did push to have him banned, but everyone agreed it was super creepy what he said and that he was wrong for it, even long-time SW Versus Forum posters.

HP Legend
Originally posted by Jmanghan
It's against the rules to post about someone's personal life on KMC without their consent.

I did push to have him banned, but everyone agreed it was super creepy what he said and that he was wrong for it, even long-time SW Versus Forum posters.

1. I'm aware. The only person who did that was RR though. Everyone else finding your Facebook isn't illegal when you basically gave them the keys to do it posting the initials to your first name and then your surname as your username as well as posting your location.

2. Wrong yes but he doesn't deserve to get perma banned for one troll message that wasn't even offensive.

DarthCaedus77
J don't take the bait. I spent a year at my school getting called an inbreed freak for no reason at all. I nearly broke down from that, in fact I did at points but I eventually learned how you deal with it. You don't give them the satisfaction of a response, just ignore it. They only bait to provoke a reaction, if you don't give them one you'll be fine. It'll stop. Never really stopped for me but it at least decreased and I still occasionally reacted, that's probably why though as the reaction decreased, so did the insults.

Stay strong man and ignore them. Don't call them sickos ect, ignore them.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by HP Legend
1. I'm aware. The only person who did that was RR though. Everyone else finding your Facebook isn't illegal when you basically gave them the keys to do it posting the initials to your first name and then your surname as your username as well as posting your location.

2. Wrong yes but he doesn't deserve to get perma banned for one troll message that wasn't even offensive. It was stalking.

Stalking is illegal.

Finding someone's facebook to harrass them, is cyberbullying as well as stalking, both are illegal.

Listen dude, you need to learn a lot about the world and about KMC, it's not this cesspool ya want it to be. It's only the SW Forums that do stuff like that and they occasionally spill out.

Everyone in the OTF, and majority of the games forum, and majority of the GDF, are all pretty damn nice.

Which is why you are seeing this stuff being condemned to all hell.

Silent Master
Originally posted by Jmanghan
You guys can't use irl stuff to mock other people.

Edit: To clarify, I didn't see what Az had said before he got restricted, but clearly anyone who is willing to continue mocking someone after that is either a sociopath or very young and doesn't have the ability to process what they're saying.

I haven't gotten the mods to do anything, I just pointed them in the right direction, and before that Galan was the first to tell Imp, Bada, etc.

Bashar also was the one who point mods towards Xiggy.

It's not my fault you are all edgelords who think there are no limits in trolling, you now know there are, and not to cross that line again.

Edit:Edit: AND for the record, no matter how "retarded" or "autistic" I'm being, you don't go out of your way to search for ANY of my relatives, and you don't doxx, because you can and will get arrested if you do. Ya'll are gonna wind up ****ing with the wrong person one day and it will get you into deep trouble.


If you want to know what az said, I quoted his post before it was deleted.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by Silent Master
If you want to know what az said, I quoted his post before it was deleted. Thanks mate, I saw.

HP Legend
Originally posted by Jmanghan
It was stalking.

Stalking is illegal.

Finding someone's facebook to harrass them, is cyberbullying as well as stalking, both are illegal.

Listen dude, you need to learn a lot about the world and about KMC, it's not this cesspool ya want it to be. It's only the SW Forums that do stuff like that and they occasionally spill out.

Everyone in the OTF, and majority of the games forum, and majority of the GDF, are all pretty damn nice.

Which is why you are seeing this stuff being condemned to all hell.

First off you can't even prove it was stalking. They found your Facebook account because you gave them the tools to find it. Following someone's Facebook account isn't stalking especially since you gave them the information to find it.

And looking at pubic photos you posted isn't illegal either. Surely you must recognize you have some fault in all of this.

I'm the one who has "a lot to learn about the world" despite the fact that I'm not the one who gave people the information they needed to find me. Give me a break. You can't leave the keys of your car right next to it and expect it not to be stolen by a thief.

Most of the SWF is nice actually. A couple of members however have decided to bully and mock you and for that I'm truly sorry.

walshy
You're an idiot, it's jman fault someone mocks his dad? Not the shit stains actually doing it? Hope they experience the exact same thing, I'm sure they'd blame themselves for it too

HP Legend
Originally posted by walshy
You're an idiot, it's jman fault someone mocks his dad? Not the shit stains actually doing it? Hope they experience the exact same thing, I'm sure they'd blame themselves for it too

Of course it's not his fault someone mocked his dad. It was cruel yes and it isn't Jman's fault but what is his fault his him giving people the information to find his Facebook page.

And already calling me an idiot yet you're arguing against mocking or insulting people.

huh

Bit hypocritical.

walshy
Yeah it's the same innit

Jmanghan
Originally posted by HP Legend
First off you can't even prove it was stalking. They found your Facebook account because you gave them the tools to find it. Following someone's Facebook account isn't stalking especially since you gave them the information to find it.

And looking at pubic photos you posted isn't illegal either. Surely you must recognize you have some fault in all of this.

I'm the one who has "a lot to learn about the world" despite the fact that I'm not the one who gave people the information they needed to find me. Give me a break. You can't leave the keys of your car right next to it and expect it not to be stolen by a thief.

Most of the SWF is nice actually. A couple of members however have decided to bully and mock you and for that I'm truly sorry. No, but I'm sure no one will say I'm wrong for beating the shit out of said thief/thieves in this case.

If they went searching for my facebook on any grounds whatsoever SOLELY to mock me, it is stalking on some level, thats part of what stalking is, my man.

This has been my name on countless websites across the years.

The KMC forums were not like this when I first joined. Trolling was at a minimum, and if you did troll you were usually shamed. The term "ad hominem" used to mean something, now debates are frowned upon and thus sharing your opinion in the SW Versus forum has been vilified.

Thats not the problem though, it's to do with the nature of that forum in general.

The fact that you are defending their actions period just proves you don't understand the rest of KMC or former SW Forum debates.

Jmanghan
HP, you remind me of one of the types to defend pranksters on youtube.

Lemme explain.

A prankster does some stupid shit like putting his camera in someone's face for no reason, video tapes someones face, and proceeds to act surprised when getting punched.

You, being a devout viewer, of said youtube channel, as well as someone who found it funny, go into the comment section and defend the dude's action, even though the dude deserved to get punched for acting stupid.

What they did, what Xiggy did was wrong.

Putting out people's personal info in ANY way shape or form is wrong, even Imp admitted so when he said it was super creepy, and everyone else. You are on the losing side here man, they both deserved what they got, it's going to continue to be this way whether you like it or not.

I recognize that its a problem, but I shouldn't worry about my private life, I made my facebook completely private, I'm not going to change the name I've had since 2013 to stop some idiot edgelords from "getting my info", and for real, do they have nothing better to do with their time? It's absolutely the most pathetic thing.

You and I do not decide what does and does not belong here, the mods do, and they deemed it appropriate. Xiggy was also going to get banned by Bada before Bashar filled Imp in, he was going to get perma-banned with or without my involvement.

Impediment: "Xiggy is perm banned. That kind of behavior is incredibly f*cking creepy."

Furthermore, on Xiggy's actual profile:

"User banned by Impediment, permanently

Reason: Harassment of another KMC member by acting despicable and incredibly creepy. This kind of poster doesn't need to be here."

Are we done here? Or do you want me to keep going? Stop defending them, they got what they deserved.

Jaggarath
Sorry to hear about what happened Jman. Wish you the best in 2019.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by Jaggarath
Sorry to hear about what happened Jman. Wish you the best in 2019. Thanks dude.

I appreciate it. ^^

Silent Master
Originally posted by HP Legend
First off you can't even prove it was stalking. They found your Facebook account because you gave them the tools to find it. Following someone's Facebook account isn't stalking especially since you gave them the information to find it.

And looking at pubic photos you posted isn't illegal either. Surely you must recognize you have some fault in all of this.

I'm the one who has "a lot to learn about the world" despite the fact that I'm not the one who gave people the information they needed to find me. Give me a break. You can't leave the keys of your car right next to it and expect it not to be stolen by a thief.

Most of the SWF is nice actually. A couple of members however have decided to bully and mock you and for that I'm truly sorry.

What you're doing is called victim-blaming.

Putinbot1
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Nah I know it wasn't aimed at me.

I just got kinda annoyed that it seemed like Putinbot was using that horrible shit as an excuse to randomly rail against incels when he's not familiar with the problems behind that section of the forum. Seemed like kinda an opportunistic move taking advantage of a sensitive issue for another member, which seemed kinda gross to me.

Though in hindsight I realize that's just Putin's favorite insult and it was more him backing Jman up and shitting on them in the worst terms apparently he can think of.

I probably misinterpreted the point of this thread because I had just woken up a few minutes prior and was a bit irate because my dad woke me up with a phone call.

But yeah time for a little history lesson on the SW section on KMC.

It all started with a different forum called Starwarsforums.org (it has since been deleted). It was a smaller forum headed by someone known as DarthSith500. Now a couple years before I joined when DarthSith was 13 or 14 he was doing ****ed shit like threatening a 10 year old member of his forum to dox his picture and name on porn websites if he didn't get a certain number of posts per day, and if he didn't go with him to infiltrate other forums (including a forum of primarily little girls) to spam them with porn. He also told this 10 year old (someone now older in the SW section of KMC, not gonna say who) that he and his friends were gonna find him IRL and beat the shit out of him, and this 10 year old cried himself to sleep at night with a baseball bat.

Needless to say the culture of this forum (which I will abbreviate as SWF) got really messed up with this guy. He and a couple other admins on there who were messed up to him in a similar way would seriously bully other users by treating them well for a while and then turning on them and treating them like absolute shit. They'd make fake accounts and pretend to be other people to **** with people on there. And the attitude on the forum grew really toxic between a lot of the members, like toxicity that makes any part of KMC look tame.

Anyways I joined SWF when I was 15 and DarthSith was 16, but after like a year things hit a boiling point and a lot of us got really pissed off at DarthSith, and me and the member he had previously threatened to Dox lead something of an exodus of a few of the members and it started kinda a conflict with them that ended with a lot of SWF migrating onto KMC and being some of the more prominent members in the community.

Gradually, as the SWF culture influenced KMC, this shifted the SW section of KMC from being a relatively tame debating forum with some toxicity, to being a much more toxic section of KMC with a lot more trolling and personal attacks and vitriol.

That's kinda my account of how the SW section of KMC developed a lot of its problems. Seriously DMB what a bunch of losers. You are better than them mate.

beautifulfamily
I desperately need a hobby and someone to love me.

BackFire
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