Hulk runs a JLA gauntlet!!

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DarkSaint85
Hulk is as of at this point, i.e. as of Immortal Hulk #11.

BFR is on.

1. Cyborg
2. Flash
3. Martian Manhunter
4. Green Lantern
5. Wonder Woman
6. Superman
7. Batman with as much prep as he needs. Backwards magic? Going after Banner's loved ones (if any??)? UV lamps? Psychological warfare? All fair game. Literally anything goes.

Gauntlet out of order? Not my problem. If it helps, treat it as separate fights.

No made up versions, please. Back statements up with canon comic showings. If you say 'Flash dumps him into the Speed Force', you'd better damn well back it up with a scan of him dumping someone there, at the very least.

Round 1:. CIS/CIP on.
Round 2: all blocks off. If you think Hulk can go WBH, post proof.

Edit: the arena is 10km wide, no civilians whatsoever on the entire planet.

Parmaniac
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
as UV lamps? ?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Parmaniac
?

https://i.postimg.cc/vgdxX6wb/6642643-0807907255-RCO01.jpg

Imagine Batman somehow managed to get a copy of every canon Hulk comic published, and has read them in preparation. He knows him inside out.

Parmaniac
laughing out loud

Magnon
1. Cyborg wins (bfr via boomtube)
2. Flash wins (many options)
3. Martian Manhunter wins (many options)
4. Green Lantern wins (e.g. bfr)
5. Wonder Woman wins (e.g. lasso)
6. Superman wins (many options)
7. Batman wins (e.g. sleep gas + batkick)

leonidas
borg--wins via bfr or loses

flash--wins via speed steal https://imgur.com/a/bExkKZp

jonn--stalemates via intangible or loses

lantern--depends which--hal would win, most would lose

ww--tough, lasso COULD end it but honestly rarely does. she isn't winning a fight i don't think. she could win, but i'd favor hulk i think

superman--wins by being more powerful overall

bats--wins via too many options. with the type of knowledge you're giving him he'd even have access to banner's dna files. he'd def f up hulk with this level of knowledge imo. perhaps via genetic tampering (for example madcap poisoned gray hulk, bats should be able to simulate something like that), or create a power dampener. those are some more creative ways and harder to prove but i'm sure someone may know of some examples of bats' knowledge of genetics, or has an example where bats dampened a meta's powers. if you don't like that he could just grab a phantom zone projector and bfr him. too many options here....

with all morales off:

borg--still wins

flash--wins

jonn--still loses or stalemates

gl--if we use all feats a cis/pis off gl would def win in any number of ways including bfr or matter manip at the genetic level for example

ww--could win this way via cutting his head off. could maybe win by bfr using the lasso and hurling him into space

superman--def wins

bats--def wins.

Sin I AM
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
https://i.postimg.cc/vgdxX6wb/6642643-0807907255-RCO01.jpg

Imagine Batman somehow managed to get a copy of every canon Hulk comic published, and has read them in preparation. He knows him inside out.

I wonder does that mean the sun can kill him

-K-M-

leonidas
i think gray hulk has that weakness more recently as well for a time iirc...

Magnon
So, if Superman flies towards Hulk so fast that his heat vision (which is presumably in the IR/vis region of the EM spectrum) Doppler-shifts into UV region, he can easily one-shot Hulk?

That's one more option for Superman, then. smile

carver9
Hulk wins all except Flash.

DarkSaint85
Comic scans to support statements, people!!!

SquallX
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk wins all except Flash.

no

MrMind
Hulk stops at one

carver9
1. Cyborg - gets blitzed
2. Flash - he does have a chance to win ONLY with speed steal. If he does not use this tactic, Hulk stomps.
3. Martian Manhunter - nothing he can do to Hulk and he gets one punched.
4. Green Lantern - Orion treated his construct and shields like fodder. Hulk would destroy him.
5. Wonder Woman - this is honestly Hulk hardest fight. She would do some major damage with her weapons and lasso but Hulk would power through it and crush her.
6. Superman - at this point, a fight between Hulk and Superman is laughable. Since his rebirth, Superman doesn't have a single victory under his belt with tons of losses and koes (well, he did beat Zod son AFTER getting koed beforehand). This is a massacre and I have enough evidence pointing to Hulk one punching Superman.
7. Batman with as much prep as he needs. Backwards magic? Going after Banner's loved ones (if any??)? UV lamps? Psychological warfare? All fair game. Literally anything goes.

Batman is overrated. Hulk wins. Tony had prep against Hulk as well and it did nothing.

cdtm
Originally posted by carver9
1. Cyborg - gets blitzed
2. Flash - he does have a chance to win ONLY with speed steal. If he does not use this tactic, Hulk stomps.
3. Martian Manhunter - nothing he can do to Hulk and he gets one punched.
4. Green Lantern - Orion treated his construct and shields like fodder. Hulk would destroy him.
5. Wonder Woman - this is honestly Hulk hardest fight. She would do some major damage with her weapons and lasso but Hulk would power through it and crush her.
6. Superman wins, with ease- at this point, a fight between Hulk and Superman is laughable, because Superman would win. Since his rebirth, Superman doesn't have a single loss under his belt with tons of koes (he did beat Zod son). This is a massacre and I have enough evidence pointing to Hulk getting one punched.
7. Batman with as much prep as he needs. Backwards magic? Going after Banner's loved ones (if any??)? UV lamps? Psychological warfare? All fair game. Literally anything goes.

Batman is overrated. Hulk wins. Tony had prep against Hulk as well and it did nothing.

When Carv's right, he's right.

-Pr-
In a thread that lacks Aquaman but also contains Carver lies... Yeah, might be time for my first ban of the new year.

Galan007
Originally posted by carver9
6. Superman - This is a massacre and I have enough evidence pointing to Hulk one punching Superman.
Go on...

Senor Cage
Stops at 1. Cyborg BFR him to Apokalips.

carver9
2 mods show up at the same time. Who reported me?

Galan007
Originally posted by carver9
2 mods show up at the same time. Who reported me? No one.

Guilty conscience? mmm

NemeBro
Originally posted by carver9
2 mods show up at the same time. Who reported me? I did.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
1. Cyborg - gets blitzed
2. Flash - he does have a chance to win ONLY with speed steal. If he does not use this tactic, Hulk stomps.
3. Martian Manhunter - nothing he can do to Hulk and he gets one punched.
4. Green Lantern - Orion treated his construct and shields like fodder. Hulk would destroy him.
5. Wonder Woman - this is honestly Hulk hardest fight. She would do some major damage with her weapons and lasso but Hulk would power through it and crush her.
6. Superman - at this point, a fight between Hulk and Superman is laughable. Since his rebirth, Superman doesn't have a single victory under his belt with tons of losses and koes (well, he did beat Zod son AFTER getting koed beforehand). This is a massacre and I have enough evidence pointing to Hulk one punching Superman.
7. Batman with as much prep as he needs. Backwards magic? Going after Banner's loved ones (if any??)? UV lamps? Psychological warfare? All fair game. Literally anything goes.

Batman is overrated. Hulk wins. Tony had prep against Hulk as well and it did nothing.
laughing out loud

Which fight did Superman lose?

cdtm
Carv compares Iron Man to Batman.

That's like comparing The Lex Luger to Rick Flair:


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/19/a8/85/19a885c465ed62a8b6174b2912eef930.png

abhilegend
Originally posted by Magnon
So, if Superman flies towards Hulk so fast that his heat vision (which is presumably in the IR/vis region of the EM spectrum) Doppler-shifts into UV region, he can easily one-shot Hulk?

That's one more option for Superman, then.
That wouldn't be necessary. Superman destroyed Eclipso with his HV while he was drained by Killer Frost willingly.

https://i.postimg.cc/McJRnYgY/33-007.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/SXL9CMhb/33-009.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/zb0RPYvd/33-010.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/z3GhHv24/33-012.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/mhpHY40k/33-013.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/TpyWQS69/33-014.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/wtzyqjsf/33-015.jpg

Eclipso had casually blocked the actual sun with his shadows in the previous issue.

https://i.postimg.cc/t18cZ8pM/22-26.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/34pcg9wJ/22-27.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/jnbkvNW6/22-28.jpg

DarkSaint85
All of these posts, using made up characters. Need to see proof, guys!

Remember the starting distance, remember the OP!

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
laughing out loud

Which fight did Superman lose?

Did you really just ask that?

Bentley
Originally posted by carver9
Did you really just ask that?

Give him a break Carter, nobody has read as many comics as you have so he can't hope to match you.

carver9
Originally posted by Bentley
Give him a break Carter, nobody has read as many comics as you have so he can't hope to match you.

This guy knows all. Minus the CarTer statement.

-Pr-
Originally posted by carver9
2 mods show up at the same time. Who reported me?

It has Hulk and JLA in the title. That shit is like catnip to you.

DarkSaint85
I made it so no other thread can be derailed....even when Superman is on the same team as Hulk lol.

Do we think Immortal Hulk can blitz Cyborg over 10km before Cyborg can react, for example? Scans will be needed.

leonidas
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Do we think Immortal Hulk can blitz Cyborg over 10km before Cyborg can react, for example? Scans will be needed.

laughing out loud

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Did you really just ask that?
Yes, fire away with all the losses.

Putinbot1
Meh, I expected this thread to be funnier

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by cdtm
Carv compares Iron Man to Batman.

That's like comparing The Lex Luger to Rick Flair:


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/19/a8/85/19a885c465ed62a8b6174b2912eef930.png

Here is the original, unedited scan:

https://tinyurl.com/yd72tvpm

Stop hating on Hulk, cd.

cdtm
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Here is the original, unedited scan:

https://tinyurl.com/yd72tvpm

Stop hating on Hulk, cd.

whistle

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, fire away with all the losses.

He's been recently koed "to my memory " (probably more) from Rogol twice.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
He's been recently koed "to my memory " (probably more) from Rogol twice.
And? Rogol is also completely beating everyone else, Superman is the only one who even remotely matching him.

What are the other losses?

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
And? Rogol is also completely beating everyone else, Superman is the only one who even remotely matching him.

What are the other losses?

Rao koed him twice. Some kids with pieces of Parallax inside of them koed him.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Rao koed him twice. Some kids with pieces of Parallax inside of them koed him.
Rao koed him because he was literally emitting Red Sun light and that was new 52 Superman.

Are we talking about same Parallax which is one of the most powerful entities in the universe and actually created the universe along with other emotional entities? Because Superman actually overpowered the same entity later in the issue.

This is just your usual lowballing routine carter.

cdtm
Yeah, the entities are basically Naruto tailed beasts now.

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Rao koed him because he was literally emitting Red Sun light and that was new 52 Superman.

Are we talking about same Parallax which is one of the most powerful entities in the universe and actually created the universe along with other emotional entities? Because Superman actually overpowered the same entity later in the issue.

This is just your usual lowballing routine carter.

So the kids that koed Superman was Universal in power. Frankenstein Flash koed him, Zod son Flash koed him. Iirc Eradicator did the same. I dont get what the point of me mentioning this when you know it is true. He hasn't been performing well, at all. He's getting the Thor treatment and this has been happening even before rebirth.

carver9
I think Zod knocked him out as well.

carver9
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/superman-vs-lor-zod-rebirth-4-e1518782126440.jpg

cdtm
Not current Zod, but a much older one who spent years absorbing energy from three suns.

Plus the sneak attack. Kind of an important point.

I could show the Ufoes taking out Hulk by sneak attack.

The Sorrow

DarkSaint85
Don't forget that Superman kept his solar flare ability.

BFR is always on (I believe it should be, as it's always a valid win tactic). Having it as the `only way to win` is no shameful thing, a win is a win is a win.

Reverse BFR is also valid (can Cyborg open a boom tube to the Sun and bring the Sun to the battlefield? Just spitballing).

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
So the kids that koed Superman was Universal in power.
Sure, let's make idiotic circular questions now.

Both never happened. He was stunned for a moment and then kicked both their asses.
With a suckershot. Superman literally destroyed Eradicator when they fought.

You're the ****ing worst liar ever here carter.

abhilegend

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Don't forget that Superman kept his solar flare ability.

BFR is always on (I believe it should be, as it's always a valid win tactic). Having it as the `only way to win` is no shameful thing, a win is a win is a win.

Reverse BFR is also valid (can Cyborg open a boom tube to the Sun and bring the Sun to the battlefield? Just spitballing).

With CIS off and bfr of, I can see majority taking him. Didnt see that part. With it on, none of them is beating him. None. Majority if not all of them get one punched.

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Sure, let's make idiotic circular questions now.

Both never happened. He was stunned for a moment and then kicked both their asses.
With a suckershot. Superman literally destroyed Eradicator when they fought.

You're the ****ing worst liar ever here carter.

Lol... gotcha. Glad I have my own opinion and do not agree one bit.

That was a long stun. Frank had enough time to walk over and have a conversation with someone before Supernan showed up.

He koed him. Zod son Flash koed him as well. I haven't even named all of the koes yet. He's a powerful character but not nearly powerful enough to take out Hulk.

Also, lol at that Eclipso ft you keep posting.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
With CIS off and bfr of, I can see majority taking him. Didnt see that part. With it on, none of them is beating him. None. Majority if not all of them get one punched.

It's literally the second line, lol.

BFR is on. Even with it off, Cyborg can still bring the Sun to Hulk (maybe? I don't want to make things up).

No need for hypotheticals. OP clearly states the fight conditions. Doesn't matter IF stips are on or off, or IF Hulk also has the Infinity Gauntlet, or IF Superman has a time machine, whatever.

Only round our imaginations can run wild is with Batman.

Philosophía
Carver always stops reading threads at the word "Hulk" and goes in autopilot.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Lol... gotcha. Glad I have my own opinion and do not agree one bit.

Is that something to worry about? Your opinion is worth shit.



ermm

That's not what happened at all.

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Superman-2016/Issue-12?id=97889

Frankenstein shot him with magical bullets which have killed even a sentient universe and then temporarily stunned Superman. Is Hulk getting magical bullets now too?

No, he didn't. Superman was up and fighting in the very next issue.

Superman would destroy Hulk as he is now.


Why lol idiot? Eclipso blocked the sun itself and Superman destroyed Eclipso.

DarkSaint85
Yes, but Superman needed that prism.

Furthermore, it's specifically UV radiation that affects Hulk. Can Superman produce that with his eyes?

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Is that something to worry about? Your opinion is worth shit.



ermm

That's not what happened at all.

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Superman-2016/Issue-12?id=97889

Frankenstein shot him with magical bullets which have killed even a sentient universe and then temporarily stunned Superman. Is Hulk getting magical bullets now too?

No, he didn't. Superman was up and fighting in the very next issue.

Superman would destroy Hulk as he is now.


Why lol idiot? Eclipso blocked the sun itself and Superman destroyed Eclipso.

I never said Hulk would produce magical bullets. That wasn't your question to me. You asked me when has Superman been dropped. Also, lol, everything I said happened in the scan. He knocked Superman off. Walked off talking. Walked to someone and had a complete conversation. Attacked him and then Superman showed up. That's a lot of time that passed by. The last we saw of Superman, he had a tractor on top of him with his Cape hanging out. He was koed.

Superman hasn't won a decent fight yet and he is suppose to beat Hulk. That's laughable.

So Superman shot Eclipso directly with heat vision? Look at the showing.

abhilegend
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes, but Superman needed that prism.

Furthermore, it's specifically UV radiation that affects Hulk. Can Superman produce that with his eyes?
A prism only refracts the light. It can't actually change the radiation.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
I never said Hulk would produce magical bullets. That wasn't your question to me. You asked me when has Superman been dropped. Also, lol, everything I said happened in the scan. He knocked Superman off. Walked off talking. Walked to someone and had a complete conversation. Attacked him and then Superman showed up. That's a lot of time that passed by. The last we saw of Superman, he had a tractor on top of him with his Cape hanging out. He was koed.

While he was shot by magic bullets.

He straight up oneshotted hundreds of timeless robots while just a few overwhelmed entire Justice League including your precious Wonder Woman.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's just how he viewed the power levels. Yet, Superman was more powerful than the rest of the league combined.

https://s8.postimg.cc/nebu3y3y9/image.jpg https://s8.postimg.cc/xbmux0j9t/image.jpg https://s8.postimg.cc/3jpshu469/image.jpg https://s8.postimg.cc/ts0x77vzl/image.jpg https://s8.postimg.cc/rap5zyjsx/image.jpg https://s8.postimg.cc/hq5jd326p/image.jpg

The timeless robots were strong enough to go through Lanterns like nothing and shrug off Diana as nothing with even Zeus struggling against them.

Superman overpowered several dozens of the same robots simultaneously.



What does a prism do idiot? It only refracts the radiation.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prism

DarkSaint85
Yah, but that made no sense.

So a prism can split light into its constituent parts (like water when it creates a rainbow). Fine.

But that means HV has it already as a part of it. Why didn't he just shoot directly, lol.

abhilegend
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yah, but that made no sense.

So a prism can split light into its constituent parts (like water when it creates a rainbow). Fine.

But that means HV has it already as a part of it. Why didn't he just shoot directly, lol.
Meh, Killer Frost needed to be useful. Superman is already overpowered as he is.

cdtm
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yah, but that made no sense.

So a prism can split light into its constituent parts (like water when it creates a rainbow). Fine.

But that means HV has it already as a part of it. Why didn't he just shoot directly, lol.

This is why DC writers should never do science, Marvel style. They're terrible at it.

DarkSaint85
I think the writer had no idea what prisms do, and thought it converted EM radiation from one wavelength to another.

Either that, or because Eclipso is magical, you need to specifically hit him with sunlight split out. Like hitting an old school GL with yellow- technically, normal visible light already has yellow in it....

Magnon
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yah, but that made no sense.

So a prism can split light into its constituent parts (like water when it creates a rainbow). Fine.

But that means HV has it already as a part of it. Why didn't he just shoot directly, lol.
Perhaps it was a down-converting or an up-converting crystal rather than a generic prism (up-converting, in case it had to turn IR into UV). smile Such crystals are well-known to modern science, and Caitlin is a scientist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_parametric_down-conversion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon_upconversion

cdtm
Starman's power worked outright. Does he use pure solar energy?

Magnon
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I think the writer had no idea what prisms do, and thought it converted EM radiation from one wavelength to another.

Either that, or because Eclipso is magical, you need to specifically hit him with sunlight split out. Like hitting an old school GL with yellow- technically, normal visible light already has yellow in it....
Actually, another thing started to bother me when I read those scans again: Killer Frost talked about "cold atoms". The way she said it, I got the impression she meant it as in "atoms of cold" instead of "atoms that are cold".

The former would, of course, be ridiculously wrong nonsense. The latter would be only slightly wrong (individual atoms don't really have a temperature; only a large collection of atoms, i.e. a "macroscopic" system, does).

carver9
At the end of the day, the ft is questionable.

DarkSaint85
He still has his solar flare ability, at least thumb up

But still. People are saying blitzing is going on - scans.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He still has his solar flare ability, at least thumb up

But still. People are saying blitzing is going on - scans.

Fing hit Hulk pretty got darn far. Hulk covers the distance instantly... at blurring speeds.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11121/111213429/4477886-indestructible+hulk+%2314+012.jpg

He was in water which makes this even more impressive. Then we have the Cowboy scene where he blitzed 3 cowboys that was said to be moving at super speed.

http://i.imgur.com/jeADcdI.jpg

carver9
Also, Hulk continuously going fist cuff with Fing is a ft onto itself. Fing has the power/strength to destroy Worlds...

https://m.imgur.com/8w0RcXq

Yeah, I know, that COULD be hyperbole if we didnt have this. He nearly destroyed a planet without trying...

https://m.imgur.com/a/b8vs1

The Sorrow
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman can destroy Eclipso who literally blot out the sun.

What is Hulk's weakness now?



Also lulz @ using Thor when even a punk like Hotshot blew a hole through Hulk.
So?

Only reason Hulk has that "weakness" (which isn't general knowledge by the way) is because he no-sells almost everything else, even then it was a blast that resembled a nuclear explosion, hardly just a casual beam of sunlight.

Hotshot doesn't use physical force like Thor he uses gamma energy which always affects Hulk differently so that's a moot point.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Fing hit Hulk pretty got darn far. Hulk covers the distance instantly... at blurring speeds.



That's not 10km. 10km is like 6miles, lol. Nearly half the length of Manhattan. Eye blurring isn't .....that's not a speed, especially when every street leveller worth their salt has also moved at blurry speeds.

If you think Hulk can outreact Cyborg, you need to bring the proof. Not some made up composite Hulk, with questionable feats.

Am being fair and balanced here. Abhi brought a questionable feat in, I questioned it. Only fair I do the same for both sides.

DarkSaint85
I also note in your scan his punches were like flea bites thumb up

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I also note in your scan his punches were like flea bites thumb up

While blood is gushing out of his face. Also, Hulk has overpowered Fing on numerous of occasions. Based off fts of strength, I would most definitely put Fing strength above saaaaayyyyyy, Damage.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
While blood is gushing out of his face. Also, Hulk has overpowered Fing on numerous of occasions. Based off fts of strength, I would most definitely put Fing strength above saaaaayyyyyy, Damage.

Would you now?

He overloaded Parasite, who wasn't overloaded by the Speed Force thumb up

But that's by the by. Where are the speed feats for even the first guy on the list, Cyborg?

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Also, Hulk continuously going fist cuff with Fing is a ft onto itself. Fing has the power/strength to destroy Worlds...

https://m.imgur.com/8w0RcXq

Yeah, I know, that COULD be hyperbole if we didnt have this. He nearly destroyed a planet without trying...

https://m.imgur.com/a/b8vs1
That second scan are from an alternate reality.

abhilegend
Originally posted by The Sorrow
So?

Only reason Hulk has that "weakness" (which isn't general knowledge by the way) is because he no-sells almost everything else, even then it was a blast that resembled a nuclear explosion, hardly just a casual beam of sunlight.

And Superman blasted Eclipso apart when he had casually blocked out the sun itself.

Hotshot blasts plasma last I checked. And against Thor, Hulk was amped on Sasquatch's power.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Fing hit Hulk pretty got darn far. Hulk covers the distance instantly... at blurring speeds.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11121/111213429/4477886-indestructible+hulk+%2314+012.jpg

He was in water which makes this even more impressive. Then we have the Cowboy scene where he blitzed 3 cowboys that was said to be moving at super speed.

http://i.imgur.com/jeADcdI.jpg
Certainly a better speed feat than this, isn't it?

https://i.postimg.cc/DfjfVd2T/image.jpg

The very fact that you want to argue Hulk's speed against the likes of Superman is laughable.

StiltmanFTW
I wish carver stopped stretching the page.

FIFTEEN YEARS on KMC and he still can barely use the Internet.

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Certainly a better speed feat than this, isn't it?

https://i.postimg.cc/DfjfVd2T/image.jpg

The very fact that you want to argue Hulk's speed against the likes of Superman is laughable.

I didnt post that speed ft for Superman. Read through the thread, please.

Parmaniac
This thread is Carveresque.

carver9
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I wish carver stopped stretching the page.

FIFTEEN YEARS on KMC and he still can barely use the Internet.

You're my favorite, Stilt. Just know, I've been a part of KMC longer than 15 yrs. smile

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
While he was shot by magic bullets.

He straight up oneshotted hundreds of timeless robots while just a few overwhelmed entire Justice League including your precious Wonder Woman.





What does a prism do idiot? It only refracts the radiation.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prism

He was still koed. He was active AFTER the magical bullet shot him. Are you looking at the book you've posted?

Sigh. Those robots was getting killed by Diana and Aurthur.

The ft doesn't belong to only just Superman. It's an assisted showing. Nice try though.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by carver9
You're my favorite, Stilt. Just know, I've been a part of KMC longer than 15 yrs. smile

stick out tongue

Under derrick username, yes?

carver9
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
stick out tongue

Under derrick username, yes?

Yes.

The Spectre+
It appears that after the mods deal with carver, The Tribunal shall hold court and pass a damning sentence.

Then I The Spectre, The very Personification of God's wrath, shall pour upon carver my obliterating, incinerating, annihilating fury.

So bide your time on kmc, carver, for it is shortened....

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by carver9
Yes.

Only two posts there and joined just 5 months before your carver9 account. But okay.

My KMC sexperience predates the registered date of my account, too.

carver9
Originally posted by The Spectre+
It appears that after the mods deal with carver, The Tribunal shall hold court and pass a damning sentence.

Then I The Spectre, The very Personification of God's wrath, shall pour upon carver my obliterating, incinerating, annihilating fury.

So bide your time on kmc, carver, for it is shortened....

As long as Pr is mod, my time will always be shorten. He lick his thirsty lips at the thought of ridding me from KMC.

But...my requests to the mods are, let me block the Spectre first before seeing any of his fiery andincineration.

carver9
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Only two posts there and joined just 5 months before your carver9 account. But okay.

My KMC sexperience predates the registered date of my account, too.

True but with those months, that pushes me up to 16 yrs. Give me all of my time that I've used to punish Pr.

xJLxKing

carver9
Never said Hulk would be punching anyone at high end speeds. What I did say is, he will cover the distance and one punch Cyborg. Dont understand why this isn't computing to you all. I also never mentioned Hulk blitzing towards anyone else minus Cyborg. You all are crazy and seem stressed out. Stop trying to pick apart my posts because you all are failing. Badly.

DarkSaint85
But you didn't show any proof....

6 miles is further than you think. And you're saying he can blitz Vic based on him moving at `eye blurring speeds?

xJLxKing
Originally posted by carver9
Never said Hulk would be punching anyone at high end speeds. What I did say is, he will cover the distance and one punch Cyborg. Dont understand why this isn't computing to you all. I also never mentioned Hulk blitzing towards anyone else minus Cyborg. You all are crazy and seem stressed out. Stop trying to pick apart my posts because you all are failing. Badly.




You haven't posted anything to suggest he can speed blitz even Cyborg.

Philosophía
Originally posted by carver9
Never said Hulk would be punching anyone at high end speeds. What I did say is, he will cover the distance and one punch Cyborg. I also never mentioned Hulk blitzing towards anyone else minus Cyborg. Did you just say that Hulk will blitz Cyborg from 10 kilometers away?

Damn, carver, slow down. There's no need to get such a head start, 2019 has just started.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But you didn't show any proof....

6 miles is further than you think. And you're saying he can blitz Vic based on him moving at `eye blurring speeds?

I think this is sufficient and I think you are smart enough to know what's going on...

http://abload.de/image.php?img=3czkdq4.png

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11116/111164621/5030379-speed2.jpg

This scan proves that the plane was still moving around. Not in one direction and yes, Hulk can jump forward instead of up.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11111/111112794/4812961-4700789-25.jpg

DarkSaint85
Please explain what's going on?

Parmaniac
...

leonidas
lol this should be good. what IS going on in that scan and how exactly does he blitz someone with borg's tech and scanning powers from....10km away again...? blink

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
He was still koed. He was active AFTER the magical bullet shot him. Are you looking at the book you've posted?

Yeah, the magic just weakens him you know.

Where? Diana needed help from Olympian Gods to just fight a few Timeless robots.

Lolwut? Killer Frost only created a prism, the energy blast was all Superman when he was weakened too.

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, the magic just weakens him you know.

Where? Diana needed help from Olympian Gods to just fight a few Timeless robots.

Lolwut? Killer Frost only created a prism, the energy blast was all Superman when he was weakened too.

I thought magic bypass his durability? Didnt know it weakens him. Got scans.

She took some out, nut. Even Aquaman took groups of them out...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/39974050/RCO010_1491383510.jpg.html

Lol... Flash was taking 100s of them out...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/39974051/RCO018_w_1491383510.jpg.html

The ft you mentioned is trash. All of the JLA were dropping them. Nice try though.

You're trying way to hard. Eclipso is weakened by sunlight and Superman expanding his heat vision using an outside source takes away from the ft... especially with the sun (the same stuff Superman heat vision is made out of) being a weakness for Eclipso. You're desperate for a win for Superman. Sad he has been getting his face crushed in since the rebirth. He doesn't have the showings. He's on a losing streak and it's funny KMC is ignoring this and still hyping the character but bash the hell out of Hulk and Thor if they lose a single fight. Bias to it finest.

carver9
Superman is having the fight of his life against Aquaman and Mera while Hulk is stomping full teams of Avengers without struggle. This site is funny.

Sin I AM
@Saint...which gl?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Sin I AM
@Saint...which gl?

http://i.imgur.com/iWO8q8W.gif

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Please explain what's going on?

In the scans, the plane was cloud height. Looking at how the clouds look, etc... they appear to be Cirrostratus clouds which is 7 miles from the ground. Hulk main focus was grabbing the bomb from Ant Man hands. So he had to jump in the direction of a moving plane at pin point accuracy (the bomb) to grab an item from Ant Man. A fast moving object. He made it to the plane in no time and snatched the bomb out of his hand. I'm not a math genius when it comes to something like this but him jumping from the ground, 7 miles up to the exact spot the plane was at, he had to have been moving insanely fast.

-Pr-
Originally posted by carver9
Superman is having the fight of his life against Aquaman and Mera while Hulk is stomping full teams of Avengers without struggle. This site is funny.

You can't expect people to take you seriously when you lie that blatantly.

carver9
Originally posted by -Pr-
You can't expect people to take you seriously when you lie that blatantly.

Ok, maybe not the fight of their lives since they are heroes but the fight was pretty epic. Arthur had the advantage at the end of the fight until it was interrupted.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
In the scans, the plane was cloud height. Looking at how the clouds look, etc... they appear to be Cirrostratus clouds which is 7 miles from the ground. Hulk main focus was grabbing the bomb from Ant Man hands. So he had to jump in the direction of a moving plane at pin point accuracy (the bomb) to grab an item from Ant Man. A fast moving object. He made it to the plane in no time and snatched the bomb out of his hand. I'm not a math genius when it comes to something like this but him jumping from the ground, 7 miles up to the exact spot the plane was at, he had to have been moving insanely fast.

That's...not a speed feat, lol.

A number of things, as I knew this was coming.

They're not cirrostratus clouds. Cirrostratus are thin wispy clouds:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cirrostratus_cloud

You can clearly see in this scan that the bomb and plane were at a cloud level that was thick (bottom of the middle panel):
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11116/111164621/5030379-speed2.jpg

Moreover, the plane was heading in a straight line. Down (Beast clearly says he cannot maintain altitude). So Indestructible Hulk (not Immortal Hulk, btw) is just jumping straight up to an indeterminate point. It's like when you catch a falling ball by being under it.

But you said it means he can blitz Cyborg. OK.

Here, Cyborg does a....relatively similar feat. Except this has, you know, actual numbers and facts:

https://i.postimg.cc/q68tG896/5567594-4814347272-55200.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/G9q9bmbC/5567595-2187795126-55200.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/JDHHswxq/5567596-4599509948-55200.jpg

He caught the Watchtower that was falling from orbit, with a Boom Tube.

Orbit is 22,236 miles above Earth:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geostationary_orbit

Cyborg had 4 minutes before it hit Earth (and you can see in my 2nd scan it nearly hit Earth). So speed = d/t, so the speed was 333,540mph.

And Cyborg managed to catch it, reboot his systems and Boom Tube it away.

To compare it to your feat, since I have shown Cyborg can catch something that fast, Hulk will need to be faster in order to 'blitz' him.

Faster than 333,000mph.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
I thought magic bypass his durability? Didnt know it weakens him. Got scans.

https://i.postimg.cc/MXJ5gQdC/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/8sd4GzYj/RCO006.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Wdzw061k/RCO008.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/7G81vFM3/RCO013.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Czm4Z6S0/RCO015.jpg

Need more?

Aquaman was literally given boost by Atlantic magic.

https://i.postimg.cc/HL1m3Zwz/image.jpg

She never took any out. She was fighting them along with Zeus but none of them were destroyed.



Flash was fighting them one on one.

https://i.postimg.cc/pXNtPc7H/image.jpg

And he only mentioned 100 of them.

So trash that Wonder Woman's strongest punches did nothing to them.

https://i.postimg.cc/NjqGPjYR/image.jpg

What does that makes Wonder Woman then?

So you're saying Superman destroying Eclipso when a minute power of him blocked the sun itself is not a good showing because you say so?

GTFO idiot. Which are these losses?

Superman would destroy Hulk as of now. Cry harder.

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
https://i.postimg.cc/MXJ5gQdC/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/8sd4GzYj/RCO006.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Wdzw061k/RCO008.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/7G81vFM3/RCO013.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Czm4Z6S0/RCO015.jpg

Need more?

Aquaman was literally given boost by Atlantic magic.

https://i.postimg.cc/HL1m3Zwz/image.jpg

She never took any out. She was fighting them along with Zeus but none of them were destroyed.



Flash was fighting them one on one.

https://i.postimg.cc/pXNtPc7H/image.jpg

And he only mentioned 100 of them.

So trash that Wonder Woman's strongest punches did nothing to them.

https://i.postimg.cc/NjqGPjYR/image.jpg

What does that makes Wonder Woman then?

So you're saying Superman destroying Eclipso when a minute power of him blocked the sun itself is not a good showing because you say so?

GTFO idiot. Which are these losses?

Superman would destroy Hulk as of now. Cry harder.

Talking about a concentrated dose of magic. Not him being surrounded by it. Magical blades, bullets, etc just pierce his hide, it doesn't weaken him.

You're drunk. He is asking him to give him a boost up in the sky. He can't fly so he needs him to lift him to wherever he needed to go. WTF abhi. Arthur did not receive an amp.

And later on her, Arthur, Aquaman and Cyborg were destroying them. Feel confident she was holding back, including Athur since later on we see him pierce their hide.

Abhi, I already said what I had to say about the Eclipso ft.

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Talking about a concentrated dose of magic. Not him being surrounded by it. Magical blades, bullets, etc just pierce his hide, it doesn't weaken him.

Magic is magic carter.

Then how was he unable to even pierce the robots before?

https://i.postimg.cc/NjqGPjYR/image.jpg



They were powered up especially Arthur. Diana didn't destroy any of the robots.

So carter, if Eclipso was so vulnerable to sunlight, how did he block the sun itself?

Answer that oh wise one.

-Pr-
Originally posted by carver9
Ok, maybe not the fight of their lives since they are heroes but the fight was pretty epic. Arthur had the advantage at the end of the fight until it was interrupted.

Why are you still lying?

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Ok, maybe not the fight of their lives since they are heroes but the fight was pretty epic. Arthur had the advantage at the end of the fight until it was interrupted.
laughing out loud

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
Magic is magic carter.

Then how was he unable to even pierce the robots before?

https://i.postimg.cc/NjqGPjYR/image.jpg



They were powered up especially Arthur. Diana didn't destroy any of the robots.

So carter, if Eclipso was so vulnerable to sunlight, how did he block the sun itself?

Answer that oh wise one.

Lol... magic can be applied differently though.

He wasn't amped ABHI and you posting a scan of him getting a boost in the air right after him admitting he can't fly doesn't take away from this.

All of the league took out the robots and when did Superman take them out? I hope you're not talking about the scene where Batman assisted in throwing a large piece of metal at the center which deactivated all of the robots resulting in Superman throwing non active machines off of himself? I'm hoping this isn't the scene you're talking about.

Why did he block the sun abhi? Think about it.

DarkSaint85
How about that first round, eh? Cyborg.

carver9
Originally posted by -Pr-
Why are you still lying?

https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/aquaman-and-mera-vs-superman-rebirth-1.png
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/aquaman-and-mera-vs-superman-rebirth-2.png
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/aquaman-and-mera-vs-superman-rebirth-3.png
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/aquaman-and-mera-vs-superman-rebirth-4.png
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/aquaman-and-mera-vs-superman-rebirth-5.png
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/aquaman-and-mera-vs-superman-rebirth-6.png

Here is the end of the fight...

https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/aquaman-and-mera-vs-superman-rebirth-7.png

I think Mera and Aquaman did d*** good and was holding their own, physically. By the end of it, all of them were ok without a scratch. I think what I said was spot on.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How about that first round, eh? Cyborg.

CIS off, Cyborg bfrs him. CIS on, Hulk easily peals him apart.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
CIS off, Cyborg bfrs him. CIS on, Hulk easily peals him apart.

Which wouldn't defeat him:

https://i.postimg.cc/LJMjFmSy/4951790-cyborg-005-2016-digital-empire-011-2.jpg

CIS isn't that much of an issue, either.

https://i.postimg.cc/v4LfQCHG/5902953-cyborg-2016-013-016.jpg

Not using some made-up version. I have backed every statement I have made up with scans.

Here, against Dr Polaris, it is clear that he considers BFR a valid tactic:
https://i.imgur.com/ncC5PQp.jpg

He takes control of all communications on EArth in 10 mins:
https://imgur.com/a/HMSAN

And he's pretty smart in battle:
https://imgur.com/a/iWMLr

So forget all that back and forth with abhi and Pr and others. Vic alone is enough to take Hulk out. Even more so with Immortal Hulk.

DarkSaint85
Another feat of his battle smarts :
https://i.imgur.com/36kCONM.jpg

Btw, that guy who looks like BP? Red Lion (I know I know....blame Christopher Priest lol).

Guess what armour he's wearing? It's Promethium. Deathstroke's old suit.

Sin I AM
Are we arguing Cyborg beats Hulk? Im lost

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Are we arguing Cyborg beats Hulk? Im lost

He's 1st in the list. I'm saying he can.

Carver was saying he could blitz Vic, over the starting distance of 10km.

Btw, BFR is on.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by leonidas
t i'm sure someone may know of some examples of bats' knowledge of genetics, or has an example where bats dampened a meta's powers. if you don't like that he could just grab a phantom zone projector and bfr him. too many options here....

He has Kryptonian tech that he bought from Supergirl, which rewrites DNA on the fly:

https://i.postimg.cc/kDKDLP5Q/RCO015-1469310610.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/PvWxDY73/RCO016-1469310610.jpg

roll eyes (sarcastic)

-Pr-
Originally posted by carver9
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/aquaman-and-mera-vs-superman-rebirth-1.png
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/aquaman-and-mera-vs-superman-rebirth-2.png
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/aquaman-and-mera-vs-superman-rebirth-3.png
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/aquaman-and-mera-vs-superman-rebirth-4.png
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/aquaman-and-mera-vs-superman-rebirth-5.png
https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/aquaman-and-mera-vs-superman-rebirth-6.png

Here is the end of the fight...

https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/aquaman-and-mera-vs-superman-rebirth-7.png

I think Mera and Aquaman did d*** good and was holding their own, physically. By the end of it, all of them were ok without a scratch. I think what I said was spot on.

Showing people scans only works if they haven't seen them before. And they back up your point, which those don't.

Just stop lying. That's all I'm asking you to do. It shouldn't be hard.

leonidas
i don't think he's lying tbh, he just...genuinely doesn't see what most of us do. i wonder if his pov is based entirely on preconceived bias, or if it's a form of anti-fanboyism (in response to abhi for example) or if it's simply a comprehension thing. i've always been amazed by pov's of certain forum members and what shapes them.

of course it COULD just be lying. /shrug

XLR87T3
Hercules was able to move half the earth's mass, making him as strong as Post Crisis Superman (who needed Green Lantern's help moving the earth).

Immortal Hulk literally flexed Hercules and Jane Foster Thor off his body, that's how much stronger he is to people of that level of strength.

cdtm
Avengers Jane is a bad example. She doesn't even act like Jane Foster, what with the super diva personality she was using.

DarkSaint85
People forget that Hulk could always flex Herc off:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111118857/4509381-1120949758-Savag.jpg

It's nothing new. Anyway,this isn't a benchpressing competition - strength isn't all there is to it.

Hulk is too slow and too limited, IMO, to deal with this gauntlet. XLR8, you can scale off Black Panther tagging Hulk if you want.

XLR87T3
Black Panther can tag Hulk, the same way Batman can tag Wonder Woman.

I never mentioned speed, because everyone can hit everyone with plot, according to Darksaint, but strength scaling is how the writers show one character is stronger than another. Hercules still moved half earth, and Hulk is far stronger than that. Debate that.

carver9
Originally posted by cdtm
Avengers Jane is a bad example. She doesn't even act like Jane Foster, what with the super diva personality she was using.

Same book, Hercules assisted in moving planetary objects. The same freaking book Hulk flexed them off of him and Jane was said to be just as strong. Stop trolling.

Sin I AM
Originally posted by XLR87T3
Hercules was able to move half the earth's mass, making him as strong as Post Crisis Superman (who needed Green Lantern's help moving the earth).

Immortal Hulk literally flexed Hercules and Jane Foster Thor off his body, that's how much stronger he is to people of that level of strength.

Hercs strength is downplayed a lot due to his shenanigans. I dont think he's at his optimal strength level at the moment

Originally posted by cdtm
Avengers Jane is a bad example. She doesn't even act like Jane Foster, what with the super diva personality she was using.

Pretty much

As far as the thred goes he would make it past Vic if bfr is on or not simply because that's not his style to bfr people and ive never seen him do it offensively. Flash is tricky and unless he applies SF tricks he'd lose as well. The rest is easy up till Hal. Whom he'd beat but hed be in a fight. Hed lose to Diana or barely win and Supes would stop him by next round casually.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Which wouldn't defeat him:

https://i.postimg.cc/LJMjFmSy/4951790-cyborg-005-2016-digital-empire-011-2.jpg

CIS isn't that much of an issue, either.

https://i.postimg.cc/v4LfQCHG/5902953-cyborg-2016-013-016.jpg

Not using some made-up version. I have backed every statement I have made up with scans.

Here, against Dr Polaris, it is clear that he considers BFR a valid tactic:
https://i.imgur.com/ncC5PQp.jpg

He takes control of all communications on EArth in 10 mins:
https://imgur.com/a/HMSAN

And he's pretty smart in battle:
https://imgur.com/a/iWMLr

So forget all that back and forth with abhi and Pr and others. Vic alone is enough to take Hulk out. Even more so with Immortal Hulk.

Aaahhhhh, we are debating like this. I take back my statement, Vic gets destroyed since he can't bfr Hulk since Hulk is able to bypass bfring. Also, I dont get the purpose of your scans. How did he beat the two he was fighting and he isn't rewriting Hulks DNA. Already tried and his rage bypassed that type of attack.

abhilegend
Originally posted by XLR87T3
Hercules was able to move half the earth's mass, making him as strong as Post Crisis Superman (who needed Green Lantern's help moving the earth).

Immortal Hulk literally flexed Hercules and Jane Foster Thor off his body, that's how much stronger he is to people of that level of strength.
Hercules and Sunspot slowed down Earth's rotation. Superman and Hal moved Earth AFTER Starbreaker had moved it out of orbit and was actively moving it further.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And that "50 earth weight"? Its again a conservative estimate at best.

Look what Starbreaker says in this scan.

http://i.imgur.com/ZNcrgNS.jpg

"The power of countless red suns flows through my veins."

And that's not a hyperbole as we know he is an evolved sun-eater and has actually consumed the energy of suns.

http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/?action=view&current=star_trueform1.jpg
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/?action=view&current=star_trueform2.jpg
http://s673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/?action=view&current=star_trueform3.jpg

That was just two issues later.

And yet, Superman and Hal stalemating him completely depowered him.

http://i.imgur.com/rHhvcUB.jpg

So if we take "countless" as even two suns, that's way more power than what h1 is using. I know its ludicrous, but facts are facts.

srug

That's so much beyond what Hercules did, it's not even funny.

abhilegend
Originally posted by leonidas
i don't think he's lying tbh, he just...genuinely doesn't see what most of us do. i wonder if his pov is based entirely on preconceived bias, or if it's a form of anti-fanboyism (in response to abhi for example) or if it's simply a comprehension thing. i've always been amazed by pov's of certain forum members and what shapes them.

of course it COULD just be lying. /shrug
Lolwut? Carver is doing this since before I was here.

leonidas
not in the same way. look back at his early posts. he's changed over the years. kmc has beaten him down, man...

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
Lol... magic can be applied differently though.

It still weakens him.

Yes, he was. That's how he went from unable to scratch the robots to destroying them.

Hey idiot, Batman threw a large piece of metal to get Superman sunlight as he was bathed in red sunlight. After which Superman destroyed all the robots and their power source.

https://i.postimg.cc/dDrZw8Yr/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/ppB9nRyd/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/cv4vR28B/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/YvnhbR6K/image.jpg



Again idiot, if Eclipso was so vulnerable to sunlight, why didn't the ****ing sun destroyed his shadows?

cdtm
Originally posted by leonidas
not in the same way. look back at his early posts. he's changed over the years. kmc has beaten him down, man...


I'd guess it's been building because of a combination of things:

1. The New52 Earth pressing feat, and a general powering up of Superman.

2. A lot of the "Anti-Superman" and "Pro Hulk" base moved out.

3. Death Battle tea bagging his favorites (it's like the cast of Death Battle lurks here, and makes their outcomes specifically to troll Carver9)

abhilegend
Originally posted by leonidas
not in the same way. look back at his early posts. he's changed over the years. kmc has beaten him down, man...
If anything, he posts even more retarded logic and posts now than ever.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by XLR87T3
Black Panther can tag Hulk, the same way Batman can tag Wonder Woman.

I never mentioned speed, because everyone can hit everyone with plot, according to Darksaint, but strength scaling is how the writers show one character is stronger than another. Hercules still moved half earth, and Hulk is far stronger than that. Debate that.

Not talking about speed stick out tongue

https://i.postimg.cc/XGhYG3gv/RCO006.jpg

My point was that a street-ish/meta tier level character like BP was able to do more damage to Hulk than anyone else (up until Project Helios fired).

Moreover, when he flexed Jane and Herc off, he was amped. I don't think he still has that amp now.

And whatever do you mean, 'according to Darksaint'? Lol.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Aaahhhhh, we are debating like this. I take back my statement, Vic gets destroyed since he can't bfr Hulk since Hulk is able to bypass bfring. Also, I dont get the purpose of your scans. How did he beat the two he was fighting and he isn't rewriting Hulks DNA. Already tried and his rage bypassed that type of attack.

Like what?

I said X, and backed it up with a scan.

Cyborg has far FAR fewer showings than Hulk. Agree, Y/N?

So even if he has one, or two, that weighs as an average far FAR more than Hulk.

No one said he is rewriting Hulk's DNA?

But even IF I did.....how did the Gamma Corps snap WWH's neck?



Originally posted by Sin I AM

As far as the thred goes he would make it past Vic if bfr is on or not simply because that's not his style to bfr people and ive never seen him do it offensively. Flash is tricky and unless he applies SF tricks he'd lose as well. The rest is easy up till Hal. Whom he'd beat but hed be in a fight. Hed lose to Diana or barely win and Supes would stop him by next round casually.

Here's Vic using BFR offensively:
https://i.postimg.cc/mhQvFBj6/RCO019-1476867522.jpg

And again:
https://i.postimg.cc/hQbNF1hq/RCO006-1.jpg
...........
https://i.postimg.cc/7JyjQWHV/RCO007-1.jpg

Sin I AM
Hey you're overselling it Saint?

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Hey you're overselling it Saint?

Well, my point is that Cyborg isn't stupid. He's not just a geek off the street, he was a star quarterback - he knows tactics and offensive plays.

Now, he's also able to run through scenarios and perform complex calcs.

IOW, he's sharp as hell.

In a direct fist to fist, h2h confrontation? Of course he's going to get creamed by Hulk.

There are two rounds here. Round 1 has CIS on. 2, CIS/CIP is off.

Round 2 I won't bother with. But with round 1 - as Hulk is literally eating him alive or whatever, or he's tanking Cyborg's best punches....you really think this genius IQ, tactically aware guy is going to let it happen?

Here he's adapting to new information and figuring things out in nanoseconds:
https://i.postimg.cc/hJV9Sy86/RCO014-2.jpg

And here he just....adapts:
https://i.postimg.cc/fVGcQndY/RCO016-3.jpg

In short, I don't think the Hulk can capitalise on CIS to win.

Philosophía
It's funny how once the discussion got going, it's Cyborg who'd speedblitz Hulk.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Like what?

I said X, and backed it up with a scan.

Cyborg has far FAR fewer showings than Hulk. Agree, Y/N?

So even if he has one, or two, that weighs as an average far FAR more than Hulk.

No one said he is rewriting Hulk's DNA?

But even IF I did.....how did the Gamma Corps snap WWH's neck?





Here's Vic using BFR offensively:
https://i.postimg.cc/mhQvFBj6/RCO019-1476867522.jpg

And again:
https://i.postimg.cc/hQbNF1hq/RCO006-1.jpg
...........
https://i.postimg.cc/7JyjQWHV/RCO007-1.jpg

You backed it up with statements. I remember you saying in a Surfer thread that statements doesn't hold weight, actions are needed. Can you show Cyborg performing the actions of the statements he is making.

Sin I AM
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well, my point is that Cyborg isn't stupid. He's not just a geek off the street, he was a star quarterback - he knows tactics and offensive plays.

Now, he's also able to run through scenarios and perform complex calcs.

IOW, he's sharp as hell.

In a direct fist to fist, h2h confrontation? Of course he's going to get creamed by Hulk.

There are two rounds here. Round 1 has CIS on. 2, CIS/CIP is off.

Round 2 I won't bother with. But with round 1 - as Hulk is literally eating him alive or whatever, or he's tanking Cyborg's best punches....you really think this genius IQ, tactically aware guy is going to let it happen?

Here he's adapting to new information and figuring things out in nanoseconds:
https://i.postimg.cc/hJV9Sy86/RCO014-2.jpg

And here he just....adapts:
https://i.postimg.cc/fVGcQndY/RCO016-3.jpg

In short, I don't think the Hulk can capitalise on CIS to win.

I will buy that. I still think he loses badly in both scenarios but i can atleast see your angle. My main issue is Cyborg is practically featless when it cones to long drawn out fights with a big gun like he'd have with Hulk. Imo save his teleporting..scratch that, even with it he's Iron-Man light.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
You backed it up with statements. I remember you saying in a Surfer thread that statements doesn't hold weight, actions are needed. Can you show Cyborg performing the actions of the statements he is making.

I showed him using BFR. You literally quote my post, lol

DarkSaint85
Here's another:

https://i.postimg.cc/kRCw3VVr/RCO010-w-1482314125.jpg

cdtm
Originally posted by Sin I AM
I will buy that. I still think he loses badly in both scenarios but i can atleast see your angle. My main issue is Cyborg is practically featless when it cones to long drawn out fights with a big gun like he'd have with Hulk. Imo save his teleporting..scratch that, even with it he's Iron-Man light.

When you have mother box tech, you don't need long, drawn out fights.

This is like the "door" argument for Midnighter.

carver9
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I showed him using BFR. You literally quote my post, lol

Was that all you said?

Sin I AM
Originally posted by cdtm
When you have mother box tech, you don't need long, drawn out fights.

This is like the "door" argument for Midnighter.

Yea but Vic is no Mids

carver9
Originally posted by abhilegend
It still weakens him.

Yes, he was. That's how he went from unable to scratch the robots to destroying them.

Hey idiot, Batman threw a large piece of metal to get Superman sunlight as he was bathed in red sunlight. After which Superman destroyed all the robots and their power source.

https://i.postimg.cc/dDrZw8Yr/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/ppB9nRyd/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/cv4vR28B/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/YvnhbR6K/image.jpg



Again idiot, if Eclipso was so vulnerable to sunlight, why didn't the ****ing sun destroyed his shadows?

We are resulting to name calling now? This is where i begin feeling bad for you because I can tell you're stressed. Take some time away from this thread for a bit so that you can gather your thoughts. Stress is terrible for the body. A glass of warm milk usually help with this as well.

Sin I AM
Originally posted by carver9
We are resulting to name calling now? This is where i begin feeling bad for you because I can tell you're stressed. Take some time away from this thread for a bit so that you can gather your thoughts. Stress is terrible for the body. A glass of warm milk usually help with this as well.

Lol

cdtm
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Lol

Just crazy Carv being crazy Carv. laughing

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