Cell vs. Hatchiyack

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Cell vs. Hatchiyack

This fight has two rounds:

1st round: Perfect Cell vs. Hatchiyack
2nd round: Super Perfect Cell vs. Super Hatchiyack

Who wins?

Galan007
'Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans' was set immediately after Movie 8. So near the start of the Cell Games in the canon timeline.

With that in mind, King Kai stated that Hatchiyack had the most powerful ki he'd ever felt up to that point:
https://i.imgur.com/nup9q1k.jpg

And Goku stated that he might be more powerful than Broly:
https://i.imgur.com/kfzGOia.jpg


Personally, I am of the opinion that FP Perfect Cell > M8 Broly, so I believe he and Hatchiyack are probably peers, with Cell having the advantage due to regen. Same with SPC and Super Hatchiyack: they are likely around the same level, but Cell still has the advantage of regen(and potentially zenkais.)

DeadpoolXXX
If it was the most powerful energy King kai had sensed and this is set in the cell games, then doesnt that automatically make Hatchi more powerful then perfect cell?

Galan007
No, it does not.

As mentioned: PtEtS is set near the start of the Cell Games -- before Gohan attained SSJ2. Perfect Cell only used his full power later in the Cell Games -- after Gohan attained SSJ2. So at best, King Kai would would only have the suppressed power that Perfect Cell displayed against FPSSJ Goku as a reference when he made that comment about Hatchiyack's power.

cdtm
Originally posted by Galan007
'Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans' was set immediately after Movie 8. So near the start of the Cell Games in the canon timeline.

With that in mind, King Kai stated that Hatchiyack had the most powerful ki he'd ever felt up to that point:
https://i.imgur.com/nup9q1k.jpg

And Goku stated that he might be more powerful than Broly:
https://i.imgur.com/kfzGOia.jpg


Personally, I am of the opinion that FP Perfect Cell > M8 Broly, so I believe he and Hatchiyack are probably peers, with Cell having the advantage due to regen. Same with SPC and Super Hatchiyack: they are likely around the same level, but Cell still has the advantage of regen(and potentially zenkais.)

I dunno, Goku at least managed to injure Cell with a FP Kamehameha. He tried a similar move on Brolly, and it may as well have been from Yamcha.

Galan007
ASSJ Vegeta's Final Flash also 'injured' Perfect Cell.

But as mentioned: Cell's power was suppressed in both instances. He only used his full power against SSJ2 Gohan.

carver9
An amped up Cell was also able to take notice of a weakened Vegeta blast which caused him to die. It's not as if he went full power and ignored everything because he didn't.

Galan007
Are you talking about when Vegeta hit SPC with a blast while he was in a beam-struggle with SSJ2 Gohan? If so, Cell was unprepared for the attack, as all of his power/focus was on Gohan at the time... And as you well know, in DB characters can be staggered, injured, or even killed by relatively weak attacks if they are unprepared for them *see SSB Goku getting killed by Sorbet's ring laser*.

That being said, Vegeta's blast didn't do shit to SPC in the manga, even though he was unprepared. It just moved his head to the side a bit -- didn't even scuff his face, ffs. Not the best example.

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